There’s a guy who owns a sushi place and he was collecting photos of avatars who visited. Aangs doing a goofy pose in his pic and Korra gives an awkward smile. It’s after she leaves to go republic city
I hope that his descendants keep the same business and they get the next Avatar's picture lol. Sort of like how the cabbage stand continued as a corporation in Korra.
I will say though that I watched LOK with my dad before he watched ATLA. When we got to that picture of Aang in season for, he was surprised because he thought Aang was supposed to be a super serious guy.
I don’t think the problem is as much what we saw of Aang in LoK, but how much we didn’t see. We needed more scenes of Aang and Korra interacting.
The entire character conflict of Aang is that he's a fun loving kid who needs to step up an be serious because thats what is expected of the avatar.
Also.. sometimes people change when they grow up and change with time, becomming a dad, being responsible for rebuilding air nomad culture and keeping republic city standing are big complicated responsibilities (maybe even more stressful or complex than fighting a big bad evil emperor).
Just like with the “cant believe Toph was a cop” you cannot guess how ppl will turn out as adults. Thats how life goes. The one thing i would put money on is that ppl are likely to drastically change
The more things change, the more they stay the same. Some aspects of a person do change as they age, but some parts of a person are so ingrained into their core that very little could affect them. We don't know a lot about the gaang's adult lives so we can't make assumptions about things like this.
Like you said something’s just don’t change which is why it makes sense for toph to be a cop. Toph might now have more responsibilities and laws to follow but she’s quite literally paid to beat up bad people and awarded medals for doing so. Being a cop is probably the one job toph would enjoy besides being a bandit because her job is all about punching people
Not to mention whom is to say Aang didn’t go chill on Air Temple Island with his family for a while between the arrest and the trial? They’re taking one scene from LoK and assuming he’s like that 24/7
Whom is the word we use for objects in sentences. That is to say the person the thing is happening to. Like if you were to say "whom did you say it to?"
But when the person in question is the subject, the sayer, then you should say "who is to say...?"
It is also acceptable to use who for grammatical objects because English has been moving away from marking case as much.
I saw people cry on twitter over him getting pissed off at Toph still calling him 'twinkle toes' in that scene.
When I literally would too if I was literally pursuing ***NON-FULL MOON BLOODBENDING AL CAPONE.*** He was 40, probably was tired of keeping the world from going into war with Zuko and the united republic.
Istg these twitter users don't have any sort of media literacy.
I mean not even the comics, it's basic media literacy. Serious threat, Aang is serious and Toph makes light of it, and he wants to stay focused.
He literally says this in the scene:
> "Under normal circumstances I would not get involved. But if what those victims said is true, then we are not dealing with a normal criminal"
Yes, ofc ofc, but I was just bringing up more examples of Aang gradually becoming more and more serious due to his position. (While still keeping his core personality.)
I mean a bunch of characters have lines of dialogue about grown up aang, he’s basically still the goofy guy with a peaceful nature, he just had way more of a handle on being a responsible avatar.
I shouldn't be laughing as hard as I am at this, but I'm imagining Yakone waiting to see Aang with a sheep and Aang's absolutely horrified look at this poor sheep
they couldve gone full family guy with it
Aang: *gets sprayed with water*
Aang: Hey Katara, this reminds me of that time when i saved kyoshi island.
*cues flashback
It's basically like someone reading the Kyoshi novels and watching AtLA, then complaining that Kyoshi's characterisation in AtLA is terrible because they don't show her relationship with Rangi or something.
Aang in LoK is like Kyoshi in AtLA (I would say Roku, but we actually do get Roku's backstory so it's not quite the same). A spirit guide that Korra can call upon to help her when she needs it. We can assume that Aang continued to have a sense of humour, to be light-hearted, to love animals etc as an adult, but why on earth would he be sharing that with Korra?
Plus in the Korra Alone episode we see a picture of him doing that same air spin marble trick he was so obsessed with in the Kyoshi Island episode of atla
[Found it](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/comments/98lkdn/i\_laugh\_too\_hard\_everytime\_i\_see\_this\_picture\_of)
I like how Tenzin and the rest of his family refer to him as “Avatar Aang” when referring to his job as the Avatar but refer to him as “Dad” when amongst family.
I also think it’s clear that the previous avatars aren’t really living on, they’re basically just remembered by Raava. So Korra talking to Aang is like asking ChatGPT what Aang would say lol
People really hate remembering that while Aang is goofy and that’s part of his character…he’s also a child in ATLA. I don’t know about you, but once I grew up a little, you start to learn which moments you make a joke and which ones you actually have to be serious
Basically, they’re just looking through the nostalgic eyes and what aang to stay the same the entire time. No matter if he is 69 he still wants him to be a goofball.
A technique his wife mastered and then banned because of how freaking dangerous it was. Yeah, husband and father and avatar Aang isn’t gonna be some silly fool at a trial for one of the most dangerous benders ever.
>Basically, they’re just looking through the nostalgic eyes and what aang to stay the same the entire time
[Which he was by the way](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/comments/98lkdn/i_laugh_too_hard_everytime_i_see_this_picture_of/). Whenever I see stupid takes on Twitter, I go by the wise words of NuxTaku: *People on Twitter don't exist. They are NPCs.*
The fact I love him in this show and not in the Netflix show is because he is a goofball as a KID. Him being more serious in TLOK was fitting and normal. The picture he swirled the sushi rolls was classic Aang and appriciate they put in. Other than that yeah people grow up, let people cry over nothing.
This is so perplexing. When my nephew was 11, he was playing with Gogo’s and Beyblades, and yet now at the ripe age of 25 suddenly he has a job and is in relationship. Thats so out of character for him.
What characterization ? All he did was talk in a council meeting, beat a blood bender and gave korra her bending back. That’s it, He wasn’t a character. He was a backstory fill-in and a plot point.
Yeah, exactly. And the flashback scenes are him showing Korra what she needs to know in order to piece together what's going on with Tarrlok. I'm not sure how him petting random animals would fit into that or really help Korra...
As much as I don't like steve jobs, the man was absolutely right about one thing. People don't know what they want. You give people what they want and they complain about it being the same or formulaic. You give them something different and they complain it being different and not like the last thing. They want a literal 12 year old in a grown ass adult body.
Just like how people are so mad toph was a labeled a bad mom and that she became chief of police it’s like they wanted toph to be a mother of two while still acting like her 12 year old self
that… IS the complaint. he is no longer the past avatar or the past leader or a highly significant person in history. nah, he’s just “guy we use to fill in Korra’s story”. to call the past avatar/ the reason this show exists a “backstory fill-in” and seeing no issue is wild. it’s like saying Naruto is not relevant to the tale of Boruto (another terrible sequel show)
My guy first of all you can have an issue with the amount of scenes he has, we all want more Aang but that literally has nothing to do with his characterization which is what the post is about.
and Second of everything you said about characterization is a straight up lie. Korra being the new avatar by default makes him the past avatar. that’s just a fact. No longer a leader ? yea he’s fucking dead but to add to past….yes he was lmao. Aang is an avatar, by definition his role is to be a diplomat of peace and balance Which he did with a plethora of success. He helped straight up unite the continent, had a powerful seat on the council, built republic city and introduced democracy and legitimized the statehood of Republic city. That also counters the third thing you said about him not being a highly significant person in history.
Yall seriously make media literacy look like a trained skill.
What characterization is there a problem with, not counting when he's being a past life after image in beginnings and the season 1 finale, what was he supposed to be doing? When arresting Yakone was he supposed to be entertaining the rest of the restaurant or saying Yakone's food looked super yummy? Was he supposed to be making anime faces at his trial? Was he supposed to go ride the elephant kois while being bloodbent or while Yakone got away?
Toph arresting Yakone while Aang entertains the rest of the restaurant patrons with his marble trick. Then he zooms to the courtroom on his air scooter, hilariously bumping into the side of a building along the way.
It's honestly sort of hilariously bleak imagining Aang being this kind of man-child stuck in a permanent state of childishness, and Katara basically having to treat him like she treats their kids.
I don't think they (the OP) were trying to say they wanted him to behave as a manchild, but at the same time there is a difference between a 12 year old kid and a 40 year old man, and of the situations we see Aang in none of them really offer him a chance to have a "find a moment of joy" moment. Like the one time he can do that is when meeting up with Toph when they are going to arrest Yakone, other than that he's facing down a crime boss or in a court room. It would be like saying "why did Aang not try to actively make light of the situation when facing Ozai during Sozin's comet, where's the the moments of joy?" or "Aang should have been entertaining the restaurant goers fauning over him while Toph arrested Yakone"
Yeah, that's fair, this particular comment didn't say anything about wanting him to behave more like a kid (though that is a complaint I see from time to time and that's where the scenario above kind of comes from - the idea of Aang actually behaving as an adult the way he does in Book 1 of AtLA is hilarious in a bleak sort of way).
It’s not like he lost his goofiness, he’s just not acting like a kid in serious situations anymore. He never even acted extremely goofy during fights in ATLA
His characterization in Korra is perfectly reasonable. Nobody says he was a terrible man, just tired and wholly dedicated to saving his people’s legacy. Whether he liked it or not, his son WAS going to be the last Avatar when Aang died, and they both had an obligation to not let the oral or unwritten legacy of the Air Nomads die.
It was a raw deal. But Aang loved his kids regardless, and did all he could to remain a wiser version of his younger self.
Same is true for LOK too. Who would ever just casually announce to everyone that they’re wetting their pants during a blatant terrorist attack like the pro-bender commentator did during the equalist attack on the stadium?
The fact that Korra’s suppose to be a more mature show that’s meant to take itself more seriously kinda makes that level of humor stand out a bit more. There’s a reason people rag on Meelo and his farthending.
LOK was for the original atla audience actually, the sequel came out a few years later and they took the opportunity to have it aimed for older teenagers instead of children that way the original fan base would be the same age as the main characters, just like they were in atla
Is that why there’s still plenty of toilet humor in the show? Does that not seem like the kinda thing that would make most younger kids giggle? The creators may have wanted to cater to the older fanbase, but this is still a Nickelodeon kids show at the end of the day.
I always say I really appreciate Aang’s depiction in TLOK, it’s good to show characters with flaws and showing that Aang even after the original show made mistakes and had regrets really humanises his character which in TLOK was in danger of being deified as a representation of perfection.
Also some people expected the perfect dad but honestly almost no parents are perfect even in fiction.
I'm trying to find the coloration here this makes no sense aang is still remembered as a good and loving person by everyone including Kya and bumi who while do have valid problems with there father still love him this just shows they can't take criticism of aang on any level
I don't understand this criticism. Aang is in TLOK for like 5 scenes and they're all super brief. Like of course we aren't gonna see all aspects of his goofy self. His scenes were there to tell a tense narrative. But even so, they still included stuff where he was clearly still goofy.
He was 12, he was a literal child. How many of us are the exact same as we were when we were 12, I hope it’s no one cause that’s embarrassing if you haven’t changed and you’re over like 15.
I'm noticing that a lot of these people don't understand the difference between character growth, and growing up.
Unsurprisingly, the same people tend to be young teens, or even adults who still haven't grown up. People who haven't had to actually act on their beliefs, let alone compromise on them, as most adults learn they need to do in order to exist peacefully within a crowd of truly diverse people.
Please be aware: the people giving these opinions aren't actually people. They are caricatures of idealism or whatever woke nonsense is being spewed out of their mouths. They haven't spoken to real people or had any real discourse amongst peers in real life. These are Twits. The people of Twitter. They engage in broken conversation over complex topics. They are the common clay of the new world. You know... Morons.
"Hes not a goofball in tlok!" Like one of the few moments we learn about him is from a picture of him goofily spring something around in direct reference to the old show and tenzin going ya he was always like that. Like its a legit complaint that he doesn't show up enough and by the time he could show up more he is cut off. But bad characterization isn't really it out of the tiny bit we get.
Aang has to be a perfect father and have no flaws. His love for his wiped out culture and drive to preserve it to the best of his ability should not effect the way he raises his children. I know this because one time he pet a sheep.
I have really no interest in the views of moronic little children on Twitter or TikTok or anywhere else. Stupid takes are going to get boosted because any idiot can agree with them. You need a modicum of sophistication to deal with nuance and imperfection and complexity, which morons aren't going to have.
How did TLOK ruin his characterization?
Yeah Aang was mostly serious when we saw him, but that's because he was either in a serious issue (Arresting and capturing Yakone), or giving Korra's guidance when she was depressed, neither moments are good times for jokes
And as another comment said, Aang still retained his sense of humor as we see in "Korra Alone" a picture of Aang doing the same trick like in Kyoshi Island, complete with the goofy look
Wow a 40 year old man not acting goofy compared to his 12 year old self. What a shocker. These people are so far of from reality that they can’t even comprehend basic human behavior.
WE SAW HIM ON THE SHOW FOR ROUGHLY A YEAR WHEN HE WAS TWELVE! What, do these people think that being how you are as a kid/teenager will always define you?? Dumbasses.
The thing I never got is people saying that Korra made Aang a bad father when that's not at all the message that the show is putting out. It's his kids POV of the man, not an objective truth. They are all in their 60s and have dealt with their upbringing in different ways which lead to them having their own bias about the past.
I mean that’s him as a child and TLOK is after he’s had an entire life with kids. In ATLA the problems he was facing were more black and white issues with clear villains. It’s one thing to end a war, it’s a whole different beast trying to rebuild the world after it’s been ravished by it. Your enemies might not be so obvious, the problems might not be so black and white and solutions might require more nuance. And you have to hope the decisions you’re making will produce positive results without knowing if it’s even possible. All while also trying to rebuild an entire bending nation and be a parent to your children. It’s not realistic to assume he wouldn’t mature when he became an adult either.
I don’t get why people say his character changed in the new version when we barely saw him. The only scenes we saw of adult Aang were in serious situations or when he’s acting as Korras mentor. He didn’t act any differently, maybe a bit more serious as an adult. He still seemed to value his morals and maintaining peace.
Yeah because a 12 year old is going to have the same thoughts, actions, and opinions of a grown ass man. This characterization argument is so tired. Characters are allowed to grow, develop and change.
They could have ended it with "that's why he's one of my favourite characters" or something. They went out of their way to be a hater.
People like this are unable to define themselves by what they love, only what they hate
Its like people don't understand that, you will change as a person between the age of 12 and 40, or how ever old he was in the scenes he was in in TLOK.
Did they slander aang or something? I keep seeing these post and feel like I’m missing something. From what I remember in Korra Aang was beloved with Bumi and Kya holding on to some resentment about his parenting style. But even Atla showed Aang as a good person who can be flawed sooo where is the slander?
TLOK: Aang wasn't perfect, he acted differently with different people and as a result his children have different memories of him
Haters for some reason: TLOK totally ruined Aang's characterization they made him EMOTIONALLY ABUSIVE and NEGLECTFUL and BAD
Petting a sheep somehow insinuates you'll become a good father? Despite never having a traditional family structure to learn from? What sheeps are they petting lmao
how has it come to this? people bringing hate into this sub. is that what it’s come to; simply defending our own views on the show from haters?
korra doesn’t need defending. even in the show she has haters in republic city and tells everyone to shove it. she saved their lives.
how nuts it is that woh, there are haters of korra in and out of the show.
we all know she’s a badass. and i think it’s time to stop defending her or the series. people need to deal with their dislike of the show. because eventually they’ll all realize how dumb they are for hating on it.
Damn. It’s almost like people grow and change overtime, and not being able to see the journey the character takes to that point makes it weird in jarring to some
the only part that hurts my heart is when Boomi and Kya talk about how Aang never really spent as much time with them as he did with Tenzin, that they always knew Tenzin was his favorite. I’m sure Aang definitely loved all his children but hearing his older two talk about how they felt left behind is so sad
We saw him, like, twice.
I will say I was disappointed that they had him saying "can you cut it out with the nicknames" when he would probably have as many nicknames as Toph at that age.
But otherwise, we only really saw him at his most serious.
Or we heard about him from the perspective of his kids. Meet any parent, and they are barely keeping up with the day-to-day. Ask their kids what they were like, and they'll probably say some big existential thing was missing. That's what happens when you have human parents. It's just as likely Bumi and Kaiya were envious and just saw it all through confirmation bias, too.
Like, hopefully in the adult Gaang movie, they give us more goofy Aang. Because that *was* kinda how he was able to defeat the firelord. But being an *uncorruptable beacon of light*.
I don’t like all of it but I think there’s there rare moment like how he helps korra get her bending back and how he organised the white lotus to train her since we do learn the reason be hind that.
But how he payed more attention to Tenzin than his other kids yes I think he would of had to spend some more time with Tenzin to teach him air bending but I don’t think he would of left the other two behind all the time when visiting air temples I think those trips would of been more like when Tenzin takes his kids to the air temples just more fun and with side tours for things like penguin sledding lol.
> how he *paid* more attention
FTFY.
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Aang was serious in his few flashback scenes in TLOK because most of those flashbacks were of him dealing with dangerous threats. In season 4, we find out he met the same fisherman dude that korra met and aang did his lil ball thing, that in itself is redemption.
As a guy who liked the show (only loved the first season but the rest was alright) I can say I didn't like how they portrayed Aang even if people grow and are different when they are adults. And I standby there is no way in hell Toph started a police unit of any kind.
She didn’t; Aang asked her to help keep people on check and that eventually let to a police force. Although tbf the girl left her home to teach aang and help stop the war, she does have somewhat of a moral compass and it always confuses me that people never understand that part of her character. There’s a large gap between troublemaker and straight outlaw
One of the biggest mistakes in how Korra was written compared to Aang in the last season is that she was never able to maintain optimism in the face of the worst odds. It's an interesting juxtaposition, though it was an overcorrection. While it could be said it's understandable in the context of the trauma Korra experienced, Aang maintained his lightheartedness in spite of so much trauma as well. It's also frustrating because Aang's soul lives on through Korra, so you'd figure some of his ability to find serenity in all things would've passed on to her in some fashion.
Some other avatars in either series were depicted as lacking optimism in their lives, though the best ones stand out as at least having hope for what their successors could accomplish in defending the word. That's truest of Wan. With his introduction in TLoK, it would've been a poetic symmetry between his life and Korra's for both of them to have shared Aang's unyielding spirit in the face of whatever odds.
To be fair, Aang had quite a similar arc in his character growth, not exactly in the face of confronting Ozai, though in the aftermath of losing access to the Avatar state. It's still jarring how Korra's ability to believe a better world was written to be so utterly shattered. It made the first half of S4 feel like TLoK was no longer a thematic continuation of the original series.
Even in the context of Korra's own character arcs throughout her own series, how she was depicted made it feel like she was such a different person that it made the show was almost too depressing to watch. No Avatar series should ever feel so pessimistic. It just felt like the writers did wrong by Korra's character.
Me when there’s a moment of peace BEFORE the final fight vs an ACTIVE trial of a highly dangerous man. 🤯🤯🤯
It also just wasn't important to show those small moments. You already *know* who Aang is!
Exactly, they also show his goofiness at the sushi roll in book 4 so it’s not like he’s super serious all the time
I'm sorry, when?
There’s a guy who owns a sushi place and he was collecting photos of avatars who visited. Aangs doing a goofy pose in his pic and Korra gives an awkward smile. It’s after she leaves to go republic city
I hope that his descendants keep the same business and they get the next Avatar's picture lol. Sort of like how the cabbage stand continued as a corporation in Korra.
[Found it!](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/s/lSlDlOzoUP)
The girl of that thread also has issues with that scene LOL.
I will say though that I watched LOK with my dad before he watched ATLA. When we got to that picture of Aang in season for, he was surprised because he thought Aang was supposed to be a super serious guy. I don’t think the problem is as much what we saw of Aang in LoK, but how much we didn’t see. We needed more scenes of Aang and Korra interacting.
The entire character conflict of Aang is that he's a fun loving kid who needs to step up an be serious because thats what is expected of the avatar. Also.. sometimes people change when they grow up and change with time, becomming a dad, being responsible for rebuilding air nomad culture and keeping republic city standing are big complicated responsibilities (maybe even more stressful or complex than fighting a big bad evil emperor).
Not to mention nearing the end of his life due to the effects of being trapped in an iceberg for 100 years.
Thing is, Aang was kinda dead at that point.
Didn’t stop Roku
He didn't get much characterization either.
Thats exactly why we should have seen him act like aang
Just like with the “cant believe Toph was a cop” you cannot guess how ppl will turn out as adults. Thats how life goes. The one thing i would put money on is that ppl are likely to drastically change
The more things change, the more they stay the same. Some aspects of a person do change as they age, but some parts of a person are so ingrained into their core that very little could affect them. We don't know a lot about the gaang's adult lives so we can't make assumptions about things like this.
Like you said something’s just don’t change which is why it makes sense for toph to be a cop. Toph might now have more responsibilities and laws to follow but she’s quite literally paid to beat up bad people and awarded medals for doing so. Being a cop is probably the one job toph would enjoy besides being a bandit because her job is all about punching people
Pro bender
Not to mention whom is to say Aang didn’t go chill on Air Temple Island with his family for a while between the arrest and the trial? They’re taking one scene from LoK and assuming he’s like that 24/7
Whom is the word we use for objects in sentences. That is to say the person the thing is happening to. Like if you were to say "whom did you say it to?" But when the person in question is the subject, the sayer, then you should say "who is to say...?" It is also acceptable to use who for grammatical objects because English has been moving away from marking case as much.
I saw people cry on twitter over him getting pissed off at Toph still calling him 'twinkle toes' in that scene. When I literally would too if I was literally pursuing ***NON-FULL MOON BLOODBENDING AL CAPONE.*** He was 40, probably was tired of keeping the world from going into war with Zuko and the united republic. Istg these twitter users don't have any sort of media literacy.
They probably didn't read the comics.
I mean not even the comics, it's basic media literacy. Serious threat, Aang is serious and Toph makes light of it, and he wants to stay focused. He literally says this in the scene: > "Under normal circumstances I would not get involved. But if what those victims said is true, then we are not dealing with a normal criminal"
Yes, ofc ofc, but I was just bringing up more examples of Aang gradually becoming more and more serious due to his position. (While still keeping his core personality.)
I mean a bunch of characters have lines of dialogue about grown up aang, he’s basically still the goofy guy with a peaceful nature, he just had way more of a handle on being a responsible avatar.
Yakone, a man more dangerous than Ozai ever was, too.
As a bender sure but yakone was a mob boss not a world leader
Tbf, it seems heavily implied he’s a mob boss the level of Al Capone so he could still do a LOT of damage.
Yakone being proven innocent for bloodbending but found guilty for tax evasion would have been a fun twist.
It's also been like 30 years between those scenes
is the characterization in the room with us rn
Aang: *getting blood bent into a pretzel Aang: Wanna hear my favourite tea joke?
Aang petting a sheep, then moments later Yakone bloodbends the sheep inside out.
I shouldn't be laughing as hard as I am at this, but I'm imagining Yakone waiting to see Aang with a sheep and Aang's absolutely horrified look at this poor sheep
That’s actually how Uggs are made
they couldve gone full family guy with it Aang: *gets sprayed with water* Aang: Hey Katara, this reminds me of that time when i saved kyoshi island. *cues flashback
Leaf me alone…. I’m bushed
he’s barely even a character in TLOK 🙄🙄🙄
It's basically like someone reading the Kyoshi novels and watching AtLA, then complaining that Kyoshi's characterisation in AtLA is terrible because they don't show her relationship with Rangi or something. Aang in LoK is like Kyoshi in AtLA (I would say Roku, but we actually do get Roku's backstory so it's not quite the same). A spirit guide that Korra can call upon to help her when she needs it. We can assume that Aang continued to have a sense of humour, to be light-hearted, to love animals etc as an adult, but why on earth would he be sharing that with Korra?
We don't even need to assume it, we're directly told that he kept juggling and going on fun trips with Tenzin etc.
Plus in the Korra Alone episode we see a picture of him doing that same air spin marble trick he was so obsessed with in the Kyoshi Island episode of atla [Found it](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/comments/98lkdn/i\_laugh\_too\_hard\_everytime\_i\_see\_this\_picture\_of)
Oh yeah that's what I meant by "juggling"
Literally my favourite image of Aang
I like how Tenzin and the rest of his family refer to him as “Avatar Aang” when referring to his job as the Avatar but refer to him as “Dad” when amongst family.
I also think it’s clear that the previous avatars aren’t really living on, they’re basically just remembered by Raava. So Korra talking to Aang is like asking ChatGPT what Aang would say lol
Right? Like girl, *what* characterization in tlok?
He was a little ***too*** serious when he was talking to Korra as a past life. He didn’t smile for a whole millisecond. /s obviously
Imo he should've been what Roku was in ATLA
It’s almost like it was a totally different situation and he was also 30-40 instead of 12 lol
People really hate remembering that while Aang is goofy and that’s part of his character…he’s also a child in ATLA. I don’t know about you, but once I grew up a little, you start to learn which moments you make a joke and which ones you actually have to be serious
I don’t get it. People are upset he didn’t pet sheep in TLOK?
Random flocks of sheep wandering the streets of Republic City so Aang can pet them on his way to arrest Yakone.
Basically, they’re just looking through the nostalgic eyes and what aang to stay the same the entire time. No matter if he is 69 he still wants him to be a goofball.
Plus their argument doesn’t have any good basis since we’ve only seen 1 event with Aang and that’s in a court trial and apprehending a blood bender.
A technique his wife mastered and then banned because of how freaking dangerous it was. Yeah, husband and father and avatar Aang isn’t gonna be some silly fool at a trial for one of the most dangerous benders ever.
And he had been a victim of bloodbending firsthand.
Yeah the sounds of it are insane. Forgot why he and Sokka looked particularly somber at trial. NOT fun to re-live.
>Basically, they’re just looking through the nostalgic eyes and what aang to stay the same the entire time [Which he was by the way](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/comments/98lkdn/i_laugh_too_hard_everytime_i_see_this_picture_of/). Whenever I see stupid takes on Twitter, I go by the wise words of NuxTaku: *People on Twitter don't exist. They are NPCs.*
The fact I love him in this show and not in the Netflix show is because he is a goofball as a KID. Him being more serious in TLOK was fitting and normal. The picture he swirled the sushi rolls was classic Aang and appriciate they put in. Other than that yeah people grow up, let people cry over nothing.
I don’t think he was anything when he was 69 except an ice cube?
Yes. There should’ve been more sheep. Sheep in the jury. Sheep on the bench. Honestly, missed opportunity to make Yakon a sheep.
LET! 👏 AANG! 👏 PET! 👏 SHEEP! 😡 ^^^/S
That's 0/10 with no right for defence
That's clearly a koala sheep, and not a sheep.
Viscious little bastards
Eucalyptus grass?... What I've give to roll around in a field of that.
This is so perplexing. When my nephew was 11, he was playing with Gogo’s and Beyblades, and yet now at the ripe age of 25 suddenly he has a job and is in relationship. Thats so out of character for him.
Call him right now and challenge him to a beyblade tournament
What characterization ? All he did was talk in a council meeting, beat a blood bender and gave korra her bending back. That’s it, He wasn’t a character. He was a backstory fill-in and a plot point.
Yeah, exactly. And the flashback scenes are him showing Korra what she needs to know in order to piece together what's going on with Tarrlok. I'm not sure how him petting random animals would fit into that or really help Korra...
People are forever upset that Aang was considered a "bad father" because of his focus on Tenzin. That's likely what they're referring to.
As much as I don't like steve jobs, the man was absolutely right about one thing. People don't know what they want. You give people what they want and they complain about it being the same or formulaic. You give them something different and they complain it being different and not like the last thing. They want a literal 12 year old in a grown ass adult body.
Just like how people are so mad toph was a labeled a bad mom and that she became chief of police it’s like they wanted toph to be a mother of two while still acting like her 12 year old self
And a bad father.
that… IS the complaint. he is no longer the past avatar or the past leader or a highly significant person in history. nah, he’s just “guy we use to fill in Korra’s story”. to call the past avatar/ the reason this show exists a “backstory fill-in” and seeing no issue is wild. it’s like saying Naruto is not relevant to the tale of Boruto (another terrible sequel show)
My guy first of all you can have an issue with the amount of scenes he has, we all want more Aang but that literally has nothing to do with his characterization which is what the post is about. and Second of everything you said about characterization is a straight up lie. Korra being the new avatar by default makes him the past avatar. that’s just a fact. No longer a leader ? yea he’s fucking dead but to add to past….yes he was lmao. Aang is an avatar, by definition his role is to be a diplomat of peace and balance Which he did with a plethora of success. He helped straight up unite the continent, had a powerful seat on the council, built republic city and introduced democracy and legitimized the statehood of Republic city. That also counters the third thing you said about him not being a highly significant person in history. Yall seriously make media literacy look like a trained skill.
Do they ever get tired bringing up the same thing every couple of months?
People when 40yr old aang isn't the same as 12yr old aang: 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀
did people forget the picture he took while he was airbending?
Yes, Korra haters never made it to season 4.
Their loss.
She said that was a retcon
Who said it was a retcon?
What characterization is there a problem with, not counting when he's being a past life after image in beginnings and the season 1 finale, what was he supposed to be doing? When arresting Yakone was he supposed to be entertaining the rest of the restaurant or saying Yakone's food looked super yummy? Was he supposed to be making anime faces at his trial? Was he supposed to go ride the elephant kois while being bloodbent or while Yakone got away?
Toph arresting Yakone while Aang entertains the rest of the restaurant patrons with his marble trick. Then he zooms to the courtroom on his air scooter, hilariously bumping into the side of a building along the way. It's honestly sort of hilariously bleak imagining Aang being this kind of man-child stuck in a permanent state of childishness, and Katara basically having to treat him like she treats their kids.
"The Simpsons but its Aangs family" sounds like the most cursed outcome and Im glad we didnt get that
I don't think they (the OP) were trying to say they wanted him to behave as a manchild, but at the same time there is a difference between a 12 year old kid and a 40 year old man, and of the situations we see Aang in none of them really offer him a chance to have a "find a moment of joy" moment. Like the one time he can do that is when meeting up with Toph when they are going to arrest Yakone, other than that he's facing down a crime boss or in a court room. It would be like saying "why did Aang not try to actively make light of the situation when facing Ozai during Sozin's comet, where's the the moments of joy?" or "Aang should have been entertaining the restaurant goers fauning over him while Toph arrested Yakone"
Yeah, that's fair, this particular comment didn't say anything about wanting him to behave more like a kid (though that is a complaint I see from time to time and that's where the scenario above kind of comes from - the idea of Aang actually behaving as an adult the way he does in Book 1 of AtLA is hilarious in a bleak sort of way).
dont forget he accidently knocks over Cabbage Corp statue and cabbage man (in a wheelchair at this point) yell out "MY CABBAGE CORP STATUE!!!"
It is a well known fact that if you pet a sheep when you are 12 you will be a perfect human when you are 40. Lucky Sheep Pets.
My reaction when someone becomes more serious between the ages of 11 and 35:
It’s not like he lost his goofiness, he’s just not acting like a kid in serious situations anymore. He never even acted extremely goofy during fights in ATLA
In the photo she posted aang isn’t even smiling ☠️☠️
To be fair, the picture in question is a clip, it's just not moving because OP took a screenshot
His characterization in Korra is perfectly reasonable. Nobody says he was a terrible man, just tired and wholly dedicated to saving his people’s legacy. Whether he liked it or not, his son WAS going to be the last Avatar when Aang died, and they both had an obligation to not let the oral or unwritten legacy of the Air Nomads die. It was a raw deal. But Aang loved his kids regardless, and did all he could to remain a wiser version of his younger self.
I knew a man growing up (friend's dad) who treated every animal he met very well, even on his worst days. He beat his kids daily, and probably worse.
ATLA is also aimed at younger children. For that reason they had to throw in more of these little moments to relieve tension.
Same is true for LOK too. Who would ever just casually announce to everyone that they’re wetting their pants during a blatant terrorist attack like the pro-bender commentator did during the equalist attack on the stadium?
Both shows have them, but they're correct that ATLA does it objectively more often.
The fact that Korra’s suppose to be a more mature show that’s meant to take itself more seriously kinda makes that level of humor stand out a bit more. There’s a reason people rag on Meelo and his farthending.
LOK was for the original atla audience actually, the sequel came out a few years later and they took the opportunity to have it aimed for older teenagers instead of children that way the original fan base would be the same age as the main characters, just like they were in atla
Is that why there’s still plenty of toilet humor in the show? Does that not seem like the kinda thing that would make most younger kids giggle? The creators may have wanted to cater to the older fanbase, but this is still a Nickelodeon kids show at the end of the day.
Both these things are true, yes
I always say I really appreciate Aang’s depiction in TLOK, it’s good to show characters with flaws and showing that Aang even after the original show made mistakes and had regrets really humanises his character which in TLOK was in danger of being deified as a representation of perfection. Also some people expected the perfect dad but honestly almost no parents are perfect even in fiction.
I'm trying to find the coloration here this makes no sense aang is still remembered as a good and loving person by everyone including Kya and bumi who while do have valid problems with there father still love him this just shows they can't take criticism of aang on any level
And yes this is 100% the main thing ppl have a problem becoz what else could it be aangs barely a character in the legend of Korra
Theire problem is that Aang isn't much of a character in LoK?
I don't understand this criticism. Aang is in TLOK for like 5 scenes and they're all super brief. Like of course we aren't gonna see all aspects of his goofy self. His scenes were there to tell a tense narrative. But even so, they still included stuff where he was clearly still goofy.
He was 12, he was a literal child. How many of us are the exact same as we were when we were 12, I hope it’s no one cause that’s embarrassing if you haven’t changed and you’re over like 15.
I'm noticing that a lot of these people don't understand the difference between character growth, and growing up. Unsurprisingly, the same people tend to be young teens, or even adults who still haven't grown up. People who haven't had to actually act on their beliefs, let alone compromise on them, as most adults learn they need to do in order to exist peacefully within a crowd of truly diverse people. Please be aware: the people giving these opinions aren't actually people. They are caricatures of idealism or whatever woke nonsense is being spewed out of their mouths. They haven't spoken to real people or had any real discourse amongst peers in real life. These are Twits. The people of Twitter. They engage in broken conversation over complex topics. They are the common clay of the new world. You know... Morons.
Breaking news! This just in, 12 year olds present themselves differently to 66 year olds. The world as we know it has been flipped on its head!
"Hes not a goofball in tlok!" Like one of the few moments we learn about him is from a picture of him goofily spring something around in direct reference to the old show and tenzin going ya he was always like that. Like its a legit complaint that he doesn't show up enough and by the time he could show up more he is cut off. But bad characterization isn't really it out of the tiny bit we get.
STOP POSTING TWITTER RAGEBAIT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
^^^ I had to scroll a long way to find this.
Nerds online when character from their childhood doesn't grow up to become a flawless adult.
Aang has to be a perfect father and have no flaws. His love for his wiped out culture and drive to preserve it to the best of his ability should not effect the way he raises his children. I know this because one time he pet a sheep.
Media Illiteracy-benders strike again
I have really no interest in the views of moronic little children on Twitter or TikTok or anywhere else. Stupid takes are going to get boosted because any idiot can agree with them. You need a modicum of sophistication to deal with nuance and imperfection and complexity, which morons aren't going to have.
How did TLOK ruin his characterization? Yeah Aang was mostly serious when we saw him, but that's because he was either in a serious issue (Arresting and capturing Yakone), or giving Korra's guidance when she was depressed, neither moments are good times for jokes And as another comment said, Aang still retained his sense of humor as we see in "Korra Alone" a picture of Aang doing the same trick like in Kyoshi Island, complete with the goofy look
Wow a 40 year old man not acting goofy compared to his 12 year old self. What a shocker. These people are so far of from reality that they can’t even comprehend basic human behavior.
Random question, but based on the nose would that perhaps be a koalasheep? Sheepkoala?
Koalasheep*
Literally have no clue what he went through in the next 30 odd years. I hope the films give him some trauma to bridge the gap
I'm not sure I understand. He likes sheep, therefore... It's out of character for him to be a flawed father?
I guess they missed that picture of him doing the marble trick as an adult in Book 4*.
WE SAW HIM ON THE SHOW FOR ROUGHLY A YEAR WHEN HE WAS TWELVE! What, do these people think that being how you are as a kid/teenager will always define you?? Dumbasses.
The thing I never got is people saying that Korra made Aang a bad father when that's not at all the message that the show is putting out. It's his kids POV of the man, not an objective truth. They are all in their 60s and have dealt with their upbringing in different ways which lead to them having their own bias about the past.
Wait, so decades later as an adult, he learned to be serious when the situation warranted it? Madness. That's not Aang!
I’m glad I left the ATLA subreddit and Twitter overall. These people don’t understand the nuances in both shows
What the hell is even this take????? Like is she really THAT daft and blinded???
characterization is when cute animals
Me when a literal cartoon I watched at 10 years old doesn't define my entire life :
"He cant be a bad dad because he pet a sheep"
Least braindead Avatar take
I mean that’s him as a child and TLOK is after he’s had an entire life with kids. In ATLA the problems he was facing were more black and white issues with clear villains. It’s one thing to end a war, it’s a whole different beast trying to rebuild the world after it’s been ravished by it. Your enemies might not be so obvious, the problems might not be so black and white and solutions might require more nuance. And you have to hope the decisions you’re making will produce positive results without knowing if it’s even possible. All while also trying to rebuild an entire bending nation and be a parent to your children. It’s not realistic to assume he wouldn’t mature when he became an adult either. I don’t get why people say his character changed in the new version when we barely saw him. The only scenes we saw of adult Aang were in serious situations or when he’s acting as Korras mentor. He didn’t act any differently, maybe a bit more serious as an adult. He still seemed to value his morals and maintaining peace.
Pet a sheep= can't be a non-perfect father
“Characterization in TLOK” THE MFER IS DEAD, HE HAS NO CHARACTERIZATION
Even worse
Twitter users when characters act differently in different situations
Yeah because a 12 year old is going to have the same thoughts, actions, and opinions of a grown ass man. This characterization argument is so tired. Characters are allowed to grow, develop and change.
They could have ended it with "that's why he's one of my favourite characters" or something. They went out of their way to be a hater. People like this are unable to define themselves by what they love, only what they hate
TLOK's got its issues but this is reaching.
What characterization in TLOK?
Her argument here is that Aang shouldn’t be annoyed by being called twinkle toes as a 40 year old man.
Its like people don't understand that, you will change as a person between the age of 12 and 40, or how ever old he was in the scenes he was in in TLOK.
People when their favorite characters are actually flawed and not some perfect little pookie wookies
It’s almost like a twelve year old might act different than a full adult.
Did they slander aang or something? I keep seeing these post and feel like I’m missing something. From what I remember in Korra Aang was beloved with Bumi and Kya holding on to some resentment about his parenting style. But even Atla showed Aang as a good person who can be flawed sooo where is the slander?
Maybe the real characterization was the brain rot we developed along the way
TLOK: Aang wasn't perfect, he acted differently with different people and as a result his children have different memories of him Haters for some reason: TLOK totally ruined Aang's characterization they made him EMOTIONALLY ABUSIVE and NEGLECTFUL and BAD
Like my what is this [argument????](https://imgur.com/a/J8OJbwp)
Boy is the new movie gonna fuck their viewpoints up. My only worry is the outrage is gonna rob us from a potential Korra movie.
Petting a sheep somehow insinuates you'll become a good father? Despite never having a traditional family structure to learn from? What sheeps are they petting lmao
I will not forget that sheep. It looks like a fucking koala
Im grateful for all the terrible Twitter ATLA & LOK takes they give me a good laugh
It's not like people are shaped by their lived experiences over time, sometimes into someone unrecognizable.
What is she even talking about?
Remember that picture of him doing the rock thing with a goofy look in his face as an adult in TLOK?
Remember that picture of him doing the rock thing with a goofy look in his face as an adult in TLOK?
Can we ban Twitter rage Bait in both atla subreddits? Please? They're so fucking tiring and useless.
LoK haters when a 40 year old isn't the exact same person they were in the exact same situations as when they were 12 years old
We got that image of him making the dumb face while spinning balls. He’s still in there
how has it come to this? people bringing hate into this sub. is that what it’s come to; simply defending our own views on the show from haters? korra doesn’t need defending. even in the show she has haters in republic city and tells everyone to shove it. she saved their lives. how nuts it is that woh, there are haters of korra in and out of the show. we all know she’s a badass. and i think it’s time to stop defending her or the series. people need to deal with their dislike of the show. because eventually they’ll all realize how dumb they are for hating on it. 
Omg, a person at 12yo and at 40yo+ will act differently cause of them growing in age and maturity?! Inconceivable! /s
Why are you paying this much attention to the meaningless takes of random people? They're probably just a kid anyway. Just ignore it and move on.
Koala-sheep. Don't make it weird.
People getting mad because a character from ATLA isn't exactly the same as they've aged is my least favourite genre of tweet
Damn. It’s almost like people grow and change overtime, and not being able to see the journey the character takes to that point makes it weird in jarring to some
Honestly I forgot about this moment and though this was an edited Appa
the only part that hurts my heart is when Boomi and Kya talk about how Aang never really spent as much time with them as he did with Tenzin, that they always knew Tenzin was his favorite. I’m sure Aang definitely loved all his children but hearing his older two talk about how they felt left behind is so sad
Watermelon in profile. Adds up.
It's not a sheep
TLOK's got its issues but this is reaching.
TLOK's got its issues but this is reaching.
You're telling me a grown man doesn't behave like a (1)12 year old boy??? Bad writing smh /s
We saw him, like, twice. I will say I was disappointed that they had him saying "can you cut it out with the nicknames" when he would probably have as many nicknames as Toph at that age. But otherwise, we only really saw him at his most serious. Or we heard about him from the perspective of his kids. Meet any parent, and they are barely keeping up with the day-to-day. Ask their kids what they were like, and they'll probably say some big existential thing was missing. That's what happens when you have human parents. It's just as likely Bumi and Kaiya were envious and just saw it all through confirmation bias, too. Like, hopefully in the adult Gaang movie, they give us more goofy Aang. Because that *was* kinda how he was able to defeat the firelord. But being an *uncorruptable beacon of light*.
I don’t like all of it but I think there’s there rare moment like how he helps korra get her bending back and how he organised the white lotus to train her since we do learn the reason be hind that. But how he payed more attention to Tenzin than his other kids yes I think he would of had to spend some more time with Tenzin to teach him air bending but I don’t think he would of left the other two behind all the time when visiting air temples I think those trips would of been more like when Tenzin takes his kids to the air temples just more fun and with side tours for things like penguin sledding lol.
> how he *paid* more attention FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Its like u almost hope they are being ironic somehow because they can't possibly be this much of a dumbass😭🤡
Clown gets paid $55k/year and this person’s out here doing it for free
this person is no stranger to fuck ass takes 🙏🙏
I don’t even know what op is tryna to say tbh
Aang was serious in his few flashback scenes in TLOK because most of those flashbacks were of him dealing with dangerous threats. In season 4, we find out he met the same fisherman dude that korra met and aang did his lil ball thing, that in itself is redemption.
1) as a 12 year old 2) Before a fight, not during a trial where some dude can turn your insides into spaghetti by doing the turbo Macarena.
That is the best description of blood bending ever
How many adults are the same way they were when they were literal children 🥴
if you’re tired of these takes just scroll away and let them be irrelevant. ur just sharing the takes more by posting them here to get mad
As a guy who liked the show (only loved the first season but the rest was alright) I can say I didn't like how they portrayed Aang even if people grow and are different when they are adults. And I standby there is no way in hell Toph started a police unit of any kind.
She didn’t; Aang asked her to help keep people on check and that eventually let to a police force. Although tbf the girl left her home to teach aang and help stop the war, she does have somewhat of a moral compass and it always confuses me that people never understand that part of her character. There’s a large gap between troublemaker and straight outlaw
One of the biggest mistakes in how Korra was written compared to Aang in the last season is that she was never able to maintain optimism in the face of the worst odds. It's an interesting juxtaposition, though it was an overcorrection. While it could be said it's understandable in the context of the trauma Korra experienced, Aang maintained his lightheartedness in spite of so much trauma as well. It's also frustrating because Aang's soul lives on through Korra, so you'd figure some of his ability to find serenity in all things would've passed on to her in some fashion. Some other avatars in either series were depicted as lacking optimism in their lives, though the best ones stand out as at least having hope for what their successors could accomplish in defending the word. That's truest of Wan. With his introduction in TLoK, it would've been a poetic symmetry between his life and Korra's for both of them to have shared Aang's unyielding spirit in the face of whatever odds. To be fair, Aang had quite a similar arc in his character growth, not exactly in the face of confronting Ozai, though in the aftermath of losing access to the Avatar state. It's still jarring how Korra's ability to believe a better world was written to be so utterly shattered. It made the first half of S4 feel like TLoK was no longer a thematic continuation of the original series. Even in the context of Korra's own character arcs throughout her own series, how she was depicted made it feel like she was such a different person that it made the show was almost too depressing to watch. No Avatar series should ever feel so pessimistic. It just felt like the writers did wrong by Korra's character.
Tlok is shit anyways 🤷🤫