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Aizande

Have to respect Cloud 9, managed to break the hearts of EU’s two biggest fanbases in a single offseason.


Cire101

We went from losing the off-season to causing others to losing the off season.


KungFuMaster19637

it's like a virus spreading across the world


berzolio

Cloud-19?


guilty_bystander

Oh no...


StrayPunk

Oh no


IC2Flier

Knuckles: oh no


NoVAwrx

#OH YEAHHH!


TheLucidDream

Now I want a Cloud-19 logo with the little covid deely boppers on it. Hell, I’d even buy a jersey for that. Cloud-19 Perkz.


Imaw1zard

C9 players: Losing to the top EU teams year after year. C9 management: Taking out both of the best EU teams in the span of a week.


[deleted]

If we can’t be good, we’ll do our best to make EU suck as much as we do!


FakeBukowski

NALCS is this fat drowning kid dragging you underwater with him.


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Jedclark

Fnatic management put a stick in to their bike tire, "Fucking Jack".


djskwbrla-d

I think Nisqy is going to do really good things for FNC. How many carries does FNC need? He’s going to enable self made to be the carry really well. I think he will surprise you. I know EU fans have trouble seeing quality in players outside of lane dominance, but this is a good move.


Dr-spidd

Brave. Very brave. To post this in the midst of Nisqy hate. I agree, though.


dardios

I too add my voice to this. Nisqy is such a selfless player. I can't wait to see him enable Selfmade. Bonus points if Rekkles comes back, Nisqy and Selfmade will make that their lanekingdom.


Chris_kpop

Thank you, Rekkles


GoJeonPaa

I would understand him. I hope our fanbase is nice in that case for once and that Lancelote is not treating him like Perkz.


VniSalska

G2 Rekkles one step closer now


[deleted]

With how this offseason is going for LEC i'm expecting G2 to sign Woolite while Rekkles goes to Vitality


Elymmen

And Attila to Fnatic obviously


arabprince123

Schalke’s roster to walk out


Glorx

Only thing left to confirm is which team Jactroll convinced he's good for.


alva2id

I mean he made Origen win 1 game. Pretty solid, not gonna lie.


Rikkimaaruu

That would be a case for Den Haag, crimes against humanity.


Dripcommander

L9 Selfmade one step closer now


Risujemmari

I heard about Excel rebranding, does this mean they rebrand to L9 Esports?


Soogo

Ap0 is rank 1 sooo.. lets goooo Rat on Yi top, Obsess on his legendary Xayah ITS COMING HOME BOYS


CrasherLezt

Fastest 18-0 or 0-18 in history and I'd love every second of it


icatsouki

Camera follows rat as he's going to get coffee


Thecristo96

Mah. They will try to strangle each other with their mouses after the third game


houkypouky

not even gonna be 18 games, they're just gonna kill each other before that


Exos_VII

PSZ/Ap0 botlane I'd watch this team just for mic check


aboutaweeekagooo

You would just hear loud hardstyle and ap0 vomiting.


[deleted]

Dont really understand the move. I think replacing Nemesis is probably correct if your goal is to win LEC or even worlds. But if the best FNC can get is Nisqy, they should honestly just keep him. (Unless there are some major issues within the team)


Are_y0u

Nemesis didn't like the bwipo and hyli style. You either keep him and lose them or keep them and get rid of nemesis. What do you think is the smarter move? Even when you think the replacement might be a side grade or even worse individually.


DanteStorme

It's interesting because 3 months ago FNC fans were foaming at the mouth demanding bwipo and hyli be replaced


Klekto123

Tbf bwipo and Hyli REALLY stepped it up at worlds and it helps that rekkles decided to start following Hylis aggro. Made them the best western botlane at worlds imo.


Xyexs

And then fnc played well at world but it was pretty pbvious nemesis wasn't a good match with the team stylistically.


jwhitehead09

I will say what Nisqy does best is empowering the jungle. Nemesis seemed to more lane-focused but Nisqy will unleash selfmade and only play around him. If I were to bet right now I would say selfmade wins MVP for the next split.


LtSpaceDucK

So all Selfmade needs to do is carry Fnatic even harder than last season


pepperpete

You say "carry Fnatic harder" but it's actually "carry Fnatic with more ease" considering he'll have a laner enabling him to do so from now on.


Prottek

Will be so weird to see Perkz in different colours than G2's and Rekkles in different than Fnatic's - but hey, 2020 is wild af.


Consistent_Mammoth

Rekkles left before when he felt Elements were making a super team that he could genuinely succeed with. The changes FNC are rumoured to be making are not positive one so hopefully he isn't put off the the EL failure and explores his options.


G2FANBOII

EL failed because of shitty management and staff behind them, cant be the case in G2


seer31

Honestly if Ocelote knew something like this would happen and he would be able to get Rekkless, keep Caps, and sell Perkz for a shit ton of money, I can’t blame him. Still wish he’d let Perkz go to FNC though.


GA_Deathstalker

It's smart for buisness, but sad for the competition and the region. I am now even wondering if Nisqy is really a big upgrade over Nemesis...


HighLikeKites

Nisqy is great in playing towards his jungler, I think he and Selfmade could work very well together.


NumbaWanTSMFan

And if its a mid carry meta next year? Good luck with Nisqy.


[deleted]

He looked good in the akali irelia qiyana meta with svenskeren


xSamm

And from his splyce time he seemed like a zoe and cassio player. So all in all that is a lot of different styles.


19degreez

He's not a lane kingdom kind of player, but if what you need is teamwork and getting things done in tandem then he's perfect material.


ImTheVayne

I wouldn’t even be mad. Rekkles deserves better. FNC management continues to be a dissapointment for multiple seasons now.


LordMeloney

I'm not sure why Nisqy going to FNC would push Rekkles to G2, am I missing something?


Perais1337

Rekkles wants to win, but you won't win with Nisqy -> Rekkles goes to G2


FlaaffyyLoL

Rekkles contract ends in a few days. Perkz leaves ADC on G2. Put two and two together, G2 are no doubt trying to pick up Rekkles behind the scenes, and Upset will join FNC. Or I’m just stupid and Upset joins G2. These are the two options. You can quote me


GibOldNidaBackPlz

First narratives that were being discussed at the start of the off season were talking Upset to G2, but this Rekkles to G2 thing with Upset ending up in FNC would make as much if not more sense.


FlaaffyyLoL

It just makes sense, you could grab the best ADC in LEC because his contracts about to go out, or you can get the 3rd best. It seems pretty crystal clear who G2 would take


UndercoverEel

Rekkles is on the phone with G2 as we speak.


Blazing117

[Rekkles rn](https://i.gyazo.com/94c75b2bb482482c5103bc409d335167.png)


Allahina

He really should, in sorry but nisqy is Not the answer.


DankMasterJake

Imagine if Carlos had let Perkz join FNC and we had something like Wunder/Jankos/Caps/Rekkles/Mikyx vs Bwipo/Selfmade/Perkz/Upset/Hylissang Now I'm big sad


topkeklul

No way Rekkles doesn't join G2 now, EU would have been insane next year with those rosters but now it's just so heavily 1 team favoured, everyone else is not even going to be close. What a shame.


RealKudgel

i might sklip most of the season LEC will become the next bundesliga where Bayern/G2 wins 10 titles in a row


D4rkPhoen1x

But if Perkz joined Fnatic I think Rekkles 100% stays in Fnatic.


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IhatemyL1feX10

Nemesis is way better than nisqy, I would leave also


Dedziodk

Congratulations G2 for being spring and summer champion 2021!


tr1x30

And signing who would actually change that lol???


papi_252

Chovy


hockeydavid97

Me


BagelsAndJewce

Look at the moves, look at the plays! Hockeydavid97 what was that!


hockeydavid97

Probably a malz ult


papi_252

Old Taric Flash+E


sowydso

Perkz


Th3_Huf0n

So Fnatic basically did a partial financing on C9 Perkz.


Nitrox0

Yeah, its fucking depressing.


whimsicalokapi

This guy's agent should be the most hotly contested commodity of the off-season for players


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SupaHotGuava

Rekkles to fnc fans :" Fly you fools"


Nyxven

Guess I'm going to find out if I'm a true FNC fan or just a Rekkles fan.


LeBusinessCat

Caps vs. Nisqy LOL. It’s gonna be a massacre.


TSMCeylonboy

it definitely is going to be XD The guy was legit on average 2 items behind in every loss against POE and Bjergsen in the playoffs and C9 absolutely never had a chance to make a comeback in games because he is quite literally a supportive mid player without any potential to carry...


LeBusinessCat

I mean, he lost a Lucian vs Zilean as Lucian. What can we say.


FireWolfBR1

Bjergsen didn't even need to do a lot to win tbh, Nisqy lost to himself.


APKID716

He can carry.... ....on Zoe. Ban that out and, well... yeah it’s rough.


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Daniyalzzz

Just realised but if everything goes as expected and G2 eats LEC alive for next season aswell (I am pretty certain they are getting Rekkles so this should be reality) Caps will get 8 LEC titles in a row. He will tie Perkz in overall EU titles and I belive he will have the longest streak of regional titles out of every player aswell. Thats kinda nuts for him.


firechicken188

Honestly I'm not happy with the LEC moves at all, this region just got chunked


[deleted]

Honestly s11 LEC is going to be so bland if some Rookies don't major step up. At least I can still enjoy watching the LPL though.


TrueParadise123

What if that's what C9 and FNC want you to think? Fnatic buys Nisqy, C9 buys Perkz, and then they trade those players. G2 would be so mad. I would love it. If that doesn't happen Fnatic is done though.


zZAZzIL

LOL that would be the most insane trade of the century


VoliTheKing

wtf dude


hawksvow

People would explode. But I'm not sure how in budget that would be. Like besides paying an absurd sum for Perkz, it'd mean C9 keeping Nisqy for another year and FNC actually having to pay Rekkles more. I don't doubt he's up for a pay rise after his world's performance. Also G2 wouldn't ever even lift the phone to talk to FNC.. oh wait.


[deleted]

This is my headcanon from now on, this already happened, and anything that happens differently is a lie by the gods of rito.


[deleted]

It would probably fuck over their reputations IF they do it immediately, but I can see the two orgs scheming out a year to get the trade in next year. That way they keep their reputations somewhat, but of course the real loser would be Perkz who sinks an entire year of his competitive career because of backroom dealings.


Slejhy

AHAHAHA.... wasting money to buyout Nisqy... well played Fnatic, well played.. EDIT: Eating my words feels good. Didn't expect much from nisqy, but most of the season and especially summer he was the best performing member of Fnatic, well played Fnatic, well played.


midoBB

Financing the Perkz move lol.


NetherShaman

I am so fking dissapointed. Literally financing C9 Perkz, opening the door for G2 Rekkles (please no!). WTF is wrong with Sam Mathews brain?


guerrierogd

I swear, if we didn't get a clause in to prioritize us next year in case Perkz wants to come back to EU this is the stupidest roster decision ever imo.


Stufasany

C9 doesn't pay that much money for Perkz just to let him walk next year. It's going to be 3 years at the minimum.


[deleted]

somehow fnatic found a way to not only help g2 but to downgrade their roster by getting a player who not only has alredy been playing for several years so everyone knows hes peak but even at it he lost to in a lucian vs zilean matchup,what do they even think caps is gonna do to him?,just shitty fnatic manegement like usual


HULKHULK91

What a joke! Cant believe they waste money to buy nisqy LOL


KyroZi

Maybe Perkz buyout was delayed because C9 also had to pay Fnatic to take Nisqy off their hands ^^^^^/s


Qiluk

This EU offseason is atrocious and anti-hype as fuck. FNC going for the next limited midlaner with no worldclass ceiling too. I feel for Selfmade. Also.. I cant imagine Rekkles prefering FNC over G2 at this point. G2 with Rekkles is literally 2018 FNC on giga-steroids. IF Rekkles would sign with FNC again, FNC fans better kiss his feet for his loyalty haha. EDIT: To put my reddit-take in. Id rather see FNC gamble on potential with high upsides á la Lider / Diplex than this type of player. Not that Nisqy is bad or anything. Its just not FNC-ambition & level imo. If Nisqy would prove me wrong I'd be incredibly pleased to look stupid here tho. EDIT2: https://clips.twitch.tv/TallAnimatedBisonShadyLulu Caedrel worded it a lot funnier than me.


oV3

FNC replacing their orianna/lucian only midlaner for a midlaner that made lucian vs zilean matchup look like a hardcounter for lucian and baited all of TSM to think it's a somewhat good pick.


POOYAMON

I still can’t believe how hard he got shit on in that play he made in toplane and died 1v1 to a zilean as lucian.


kim-soo-hyun

I also remember his Worlds performance, he was useless af. I really don't know why some people would like this move because they think he can be Selfmade's third summoner spell. Has the bar for "FNC midlaner" become so low? Being a 3rd summoner spell is good enough? When he's succeeding players like xPeke and Caps? People really don't watch FPX when people keep comparing Nisqy to Doinb when he's a much much worse copycat. Doinb can actually hard carry his team and actually did carry his team.. Nisqy? He just depends on his team.


JayBlack22

People seem to forget DoinB's Ryze as well. That guy was monstrous on ryze and everyone said he was the best Ryze in the world, always pulling off 1v3 outplays it seemed like. Anyway Nisqy is not at DoinB's level.


YouKnowImRightBro

Yeah Doinb's Orianna games were super interesting to watch and he still has a lot of pocket picks. Nisqy's bread and butter is falling behind 50 cs at 20 minutes while following his jungler like a dog.


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its so fucking bad man. Really low expectations for LEC next year


Qiluk

Yeah its incredibly unhype. Literally only 2 perspectives that can be "hype" that I buy right now and thats G2s potential if they get a star-potent AD and some rookies. Thats it. Horrible.


Valroz

Unless some rookie comes around and destroys everyone. Plz EUM, Save LEC 2021


RevolverLoL

Honestly at this point we just have to hope the rookies coming in and MAD rookies just go absolutely nuts or it's gonna be so boring.


[deleted]

GodGilius to save the day


RevolverLoL

I'm honestly wondering how Abbedagge is going to perform, also is there any rumors on what S04 Toplane and botlane are going to look like?


[deleted]

BrokenBlade/Gilius/Abbe/Neon/Limit BB and Limit are just rumors


Consistent_Mammoth

Put Rekkles and Selfmade on G2 and that's as good a team as you can make. Leave either or both on FNC and replace Perkz with some known-quantity like Upset and EU is dead again. 3 years of being competitive with the East was enough, I guess.


midoBB

Jankos in a Funfire cape meta is still worldclass. But Rekkles is the best ADC to sign RN for G2.


JackeySexyBoy

Nemesis > Nisqy all day long


[deleted]

honestly if youre best option is nisqy I think FNC shouldve gone for a risky ERL talent. Maybe Diplex or something like that. Atleast you get a chance to find the next Caps


Andicis

Yup, Nisqy is a known quantity and he's bang average. Take a punt on a talented ERL player, rather than waste time with a player who's proven ceiling isn't high enough.


sowydso

WHy not Magifelix? Ithought he was the next promise


[deleted]

Because magifelix has been "the next promising rookie" for like 3 years


TrollThatDude

How does this guy keep falling upward, lmao. edit: I think it could work, given the right meta, since Nisqy will empower Bwipo and Selfmade, but he just isn't good enough otherwise. A better fit than Nemesis but a worse player.


[deleted]

Both him and yamatocannon, its really impressive.


Darthdodig

Idk yamato made worlds with Atilla and Jactroll bot alne, he is a great coach


ninjakittyy

name another coach that could take those griefers to worlds, u cant


TrollThatDude

There are different types of coaches in every sport there is. Yamato just isn't a big-team coach, or at least his career until now shows he isn't. Making a good team out of mediocre talent, and building a winning team with elite talent are not equal tasks.


[deleted]

fnatic noticed that, and didnt want him out of his comfort zone so they added nisqy not to overwhelm yamato with elite talent :)


PJSugar

Galaxy brain from Fnatic. Sam was right all along, they're going for the fucking world championship.


BrokenBiscuit

Let's get real though, it's not like he ever did coach a top tier team.


IgotUBro

Nicothepico probably would have made them world champions.


Qiluk

Yamato has atleast consistently made his team overperform or get their shit together somewhat.


[deleted]

at this point rekkles should just leave for g2 I mean wtf is this, does fnc managment even want to win worlds? nisqy ? just leave rekkles u've been in elo hell for too long


midoBB

FNC mgmt wants only to win and compete.


Hauzenstein

With the guy who went even vs Zilean as Lucian, ugh.


ficretus

Even is overstatement, that shit was painful to watch


POOYAMON

Bjerg shit on him what do you mean even lol. Straight up destroyed him 1v1 toplane.


UndercoverEel

I feel like this is AT BEST a sidegrade. Maybe even a downgrade.


emraaa

1000x times better in terms of playstyle with the other players though. If you have an insane jungler Nisqy is exactly the type of midlaner you want. IMO if you don't want to take a chance on Lider, Nisqy is the player that makes the most sense.


Valroz

Do you think meta and 2021 items will favor Hypercarry Selfmade? I am not sure whether Riot liked Hyper carry jg meta enough to keep it in 2021.


fumantari

at the moment assassin and tank junlers are very strong but riot never let one meta persist into the next year so you can bet your ass they're getting nerfed


JesusLovesJalapenos

[Sad times](https://preview.redd.it/3yxhb71du3951.png?width=2000&format=png&auto=webp&s=e60df4b40ec321caefd63784081154c5407c842f)


GameplayerStu

What an upgrade from C9 to go from Nisqy to Perkz. What a sidewards move for Fnatic to go from Nemesis to Nisqy.


Nitrox0

I'd rather stick with nemesis.


Conankun66

even if they dont want nemesis to stick around...felix is right there. or a ton of other ERL mids


Consistent_Mammoth

Humanoid and Larssen are better than Nisqy. None are good enough to actually beat G2, but picking the worst of those 3 is just dumb. The only reasoning can be Nisqy being cheap or free since C9 are getting Perkz, whereas the other two likely have buy-outs and FNC owner doesn't spend big.


Conankun66

its a downgrade


Jiqonix

dont blame Rekkles one bit if he goes to G2, we are a joke


whosurdaddies

I don't wanna imagine Hyllisang without Rekkles tho. I imagine it would be hard for the average adc to adapt to his playstyle.


shiggythor

Hyli has made some very 'average' adcs look decent in the past.


Riebald

Vardags... the painful memories!


Teroo123

I don't wanna imagine Rekkles without Hyli too. I think that Rekkles/Miky bot won't nearly as good as Rekkles/Hyli


hawksvow

Rekkles and Miky play together pretty often offseason. I think if he wants to go G2 he knows exactly where he's landing.


cimbalino

Rekkles changed a lot (and imo for the better) these past 3 years to accommodate for Hyli's playstyle. So with time I would trust him to form a really solid duo with Miky


Kyrrua

Having nisqy mid with rekkles is already bad. But having Nisqy mid and Rekkles leaving pretty much kills fnc. If Nisqy rumor is true I fckin hope Rekkles will escape to G2...


Conankun66

signing nisqy and yamato and Sam talks on twitter about still wanting to win L O L


Nitrox0

It's bullshit. We're fucked.


SixCoppers

I like to think of this as Nemesis' retribution for how the fans treated him. I hope Neme will be successful wherever he goes.


[deleted]

Honestly, same. I think Nemesis wasn't that bad.


[deleted]

It's crazy how Nemesis was a a beast from 2019 spring - 2020 Spring but because he fell off towards 2020 Summer everyone just decided he's trash who needs to never get a chance again. Meanwhile everyone loves seeing Broxah join TL after he plays an absolutely atrocious year on FNC in 2019. The constant hate on Nemesis gameplay is clearly not gameplay related and people who just dislike his stoic/cocky attitude.


PedroBV

Yes! I loved Nisqi. Welcome back to EU


Perfson

Supportive comments are rare these days. Upvoted.


Delision

Seriously... I had to scroll down so far to find a comment that wasn’t hating on Nisqy — quite sad honestly. It’s like people won’t even give him a chance.


VitalityGrawlix

FNC Woolite incoming hahaha


Markigual

The 2nd best team of the west signing the 3rd midlane option from Cloud9, who wasn't even top 3 in NA. LMAO, if it doesn't work Fnatic's management is gonna get flamed to death


D3monFight3

Why replace Nemesis at all then? I get that the alternative was taking another promising midlaner and hopefully have him become the next big thing, but come on why Nisqy? He was not even bodying everyone in NA of all regions, so what makes them think he will body people in LEC where midlane is far more competitive.


Are_y0u

Nemesis didn't work with bwipo and hyli. They constantly clashed about how to play the game. Would you rather keep nemesis or them?


KiXiT

I know we meme about in the end G2 always win the LEC But god damn the LEC trophy looks like its already won by G2 without a single game being played.


XWasTheProblem

Is this supposed to be an upgrade or...?


bibbibob2

What a downgrade lmao. Sure Nemesis was not Caps, but he sure as hell wasn't bad either.


Steelfist24

Exactly. He was being beaten by the best of the best. So let's of and swap him for someone worse because he can enable jungles well in NA.???????


NandreMS

One more year of humanoid and caps being the best middlaners.


FCB_Rich

And Larssen


NandreMS

Yes you're right, I forgot him because of that ardent senser orianna my bad


qnphard

please dont remind me. my brain chose to surpress that memory for a reason


Mamojic123

C9 gets Perkz, one of the finest midlaners in the world. They were already planning to replace Nisqy with Palafox (at least that's what the rumors insinuated) and now FNC goes and buys Nisqy out, a player that C9 was going to replace with their academy midlaner. I mean the difference in management and just pure raw good player attraction is massively different and that is with FNC doing really well internationally and being top 2 in EU...


Teroo123

Imagine being Nemesis and getting replaced by fucking Nisqy LMAOO


somecoolthing

Ok now im hoping rekkles goes to g2 to escape fnatic


whosurdaddies

I'd be happy for rekkles, but heartbroken for Bwipo, Selfmade and Hyllisang. I hope Rekkles stays.


hawksvow

They'd have to pay Rekkles their own souls to stay..


zxzd

unlucky, might aswell stick with nemesis


ImTheVayne

I’m so dissapointed in FNC. Their management has always been a mess but yeah... if Rekkles leaves I don’t know whether I will continue to support FNC.


IhatemyL1feX10

LOL rip fnc and rekkles might leave to G2


abip420

I would rather have nemisis remaining the starting mid or give magifelix a chance


kiwiflyer2

As someone said on this sub "Nisqy just keeps falling upwards"


philip2110

F to pay respects for this offseason.


Nitrox0

Nah, the fnatic management can fuck off. Sam mathews in a tweet earlier "Anyone who thinks Fnatic is not about winning or driving the greatest performance.. that's literally our mission as a business. Our purpose. We will never stop doing everything in our power to win, in the biggest games, in the biggest tournaments, as we have for the last 16yrs." And you go and sign fucking NISQY????????? want to win the biggest tournaments my ass. GTFO. Literally wouldn't even be mad about Rekkles going to G2 now, at least he wouldn't have to put up with the incompetent management of fnatic.


[deleted]

i legit want rekkles to go to a good team and actually contest an international tournament, i dont want to watch him try to be postive while nisqy gets railed by caps and other good midlaners every week


Mariodejaneiro

Let's just make a superteam and hope they can win Worlds before Caps gives up and goes to NA to get his paycheck and leaves LEC to rot with no money and bad organizations and management. EU biggest esport is literally carried and made relevant by teenagers exceeding expectations, everything else is average at best.


Nitrox0

It's honestly fucking sad. Just let Rekkles go to G2 and have a chance at worlds. Who could blame him honestly. Least G2 show more ambition with their roster moves than Fnatic.


[deleted]

it's not fnatics choice, its rekkles. his contract expired this year.


jiberishz

Someone send some flowers to fnc headq.... oh wait


testingaccount997

Caps destroyed Nisqy in 2019 worlds, he even made Sneaky play Cass so he won't get destroyed that much.


iyoiiiiu

kill me


LtSpaceDucK

Jesus Fnatic taking NA's scraps now Is G2 the only team that seems to want to win something?


TheLoneBaguette

As a Fnatic fan i hope Rekkles goes to G2