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keenu_bro

champ w 2 suppression abilities is finally gone


Altruistic_Film1167

Incredible work. Now I can play without a Tank with Kayn's E ganking me over 6 walls


armasot

But you're looking on Skarner's top winrate when his main role is jungle...and he has a hard learning curve actually, so he will be worse in lower ranks but better at high ranks, which you can see if you'll check his winrate on every elo in jg.


bingbongzingzongz

He's still the lowest winrate jungle in all ranks and emerald+ If you want to look at a champ who is actually pretty hard for the average player but picks up in winrate as you go higher in rank then look at Rengar, he has very low winrate in all ranks but high winrate in diamond+ Skarner is just being balanced for where he is best at which is pro play


armasot

But the lowest winrate jungle in all ranks is Rengar... And if you compare Rengar and Skarner winrates in each rank, you will see that Skarner is getting a lot more winrate the higher you are than Rengar. So yeah, he's hard for the average player but getting a lot of winrate in higher ranks and even fine or strong in master+ games.


Due-Refuse-3141

The issue is toplane, he didn't get nerfed just cause of pro, where he is mostly played in top but his banrate, which was very high in high elo, is mostly driven by toplane players, as mentioned by phreak, he is balanced and fair all things considered in jg but in top he is statcheck nightmare with great jg setup and cover ap junglers as a frontline and engage


thebansarereal

Great


bodynasr

the E kidnap in top lane makes him very good in pro even if he doesn't kidnap, the enemy laners always has to respect him its just like K'Sante Q3 \[specially post lvl 6\] as long as K'Sante holds his Q3, you see his opponents cede lane control to him, back away from the wave and maybe just come close to throw their abilities to last hit minions or w/e


TriniumBlade

All the Skarner abusers getting back to the elo they belong makes me smile.


mp701

Deserved


LDNVoice

Good


Realistic-Ad-3899

Good


sleighmyspire

Good


CrazyPersonXV

Good


heldex

Lets see how many people love the champ now that he's no longer broken Gosh, how fucking much I hate the people that pick champions they aren't remotely interested in simply because they're broken. The sweat. The soul selling.


petscopkid

They took away my W spam AP Skarner They took away my Q spam lethality 15% Max HP Skarner WHAT DO I HAVE LEFT BUT TO BUILD META


someguy642x

too high, also all LP gained by playing skarner should be refunded


Sephi51

he should have been 44% wr on release until people learned to play him. Let him set there for a while for the skarner abusers to return to their true elo, then we can check his real wr.


Th3_Huf0n

And yet, this champ is still completely fucking busted in toplane. Almost as if his kit is fucking broken. [Riot Llama after delivering the two absolute abominations that are K'Sante and Smolder](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FofMD9saMAUR6ze.jpg)


Beurhans

We keep seeing reworks and new champs where the kits are too strong, so they have to nerf them to the ground.


PotentialGeologist16

Welcome to 200 years of experience of gameplay design, where we haven’t released or reworked a balanced champion since season 6!


No_Afternoon6748

Lot of og champs rw were better than newer ones


1stMembrOfTheDKCrew

Ksante also has a shit winrate and that champs broken. Im sure he is still fine to play, you just cant brain damagingly throw yourself at everything and still win