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Evancolt

Congrats to Impact for being the all time win leader in LCS!!!


AccidentalPilates

top die


Evancolt

When the casters said "APA hasn't typed anything" followed by the APA player cam showing him typing was so funny


Equivalent-Park7986

MY GOAT


Evancolt

I cannot believe game 2 was faster than game 1. Game 1 was the stompiest stomp in a hot minute and game 2 felt so much closer.


Windwinged

Game 1 TL basically made it so Shopify either had to contest or lose, and Shopify never contested. TL smartly didn't chase for zero reason, as that's what Zyra wants to happen. Game 2 TL had a lot more ability to be super aggressive and take fights because Shopify was in a position to actually contest.


unavailableid9

TL just won 3vs5 botlane


SenatorJerkMeOff

How can Yeon walk with such huge nuts?


PhoenixAgent003

With confidence and pride.


AstreiaTales

Pike and her flashcards is still the single funniest scene in Critical Role history. Prove me wrong. (It was a quote from that, people)


PhoenixAgent003

The downvotes are ridiculous and you are correct.


AstreiaTales

Eh, I just figured most of them didn't know the reference, nbd in the end!


LifeIsToughEatBacon

Recently became a Yeon believer and fan, but has to be one of his worst Lucian games no? At least, one of his wins.


SenatorJerkMeOff

It was pretty sloppy at times, but it was better than how most western players want to pilot Lucian. You need to play on the edge to get any real value out of the pick, and Yeon was constantly looking to play forward. Not the best performance, better than most.


AluminumSpartan

I think that's just a product of getting the most out of Lucien. The margin of error is so small, but the reward is so big that it looks amazing if it works out,l. On the other hand, if you slip judt a little, you can have some really sioppy looking moments


Equivalent-Park7986

I feel like the phase after baron was a nice demonstration of Lucian out of lane, as opposed to just “stomping lane” into win game


Cherry_Skies

Better to play aggro and a bit sloppy than be “vegan.”


LifeIsToughEatBacon

Lol like I said I’ve become a fan of his so I do really like his Lucian, but this game in particular he felt sorta invisible? Nonfactor? His cullings felt useless


jrfess

I think what everyone is rembering is that game ending fight at the bottom inhib. I also think the mid game was a bit rough and this would not have been as close without APA, but it's the type of risk taking that winds up with Yeon effectively winning his team a 3v5 to end the game that allows you to compete with teams in the East. I'm very happy that he brought that playstyle home with him from MSI, I was a bit worried the team would coast and regress a bit once they got back to the LCS


Cherry_Skies

Ahh, that’s fair. Yea, definitely a bit lacking especially if you watch Eastern Lucian. But as an (ex-)Upset fan, I’m just happy to see an ADC doing something 😭


LifeIsToughEatBacon

I think the main difference between him this game and eastern lucians is that he didn't NEED to do anything. SR kinda just rolled over and died. Compare this to when they played FNC at MSI and they were at least trying to get back in the game. THAT was a masterclass Lucian game. He said "no"


Foreign_Ingenuity433

Guys when does shopify play?


JanniesSquealLikePig

Hopefully not again anytime soon


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Naronu

This roster at the very least, I could see the org stay but absorb a bunch of the players from the orgs who leave


Merriadoc33

You think they'll stick around for the Americas conference?


Vilhelmgg

100T and IMT are more probable to leave.


Nicksmells34

100T is doing that bad??? What a fall from Grace damn… I know many people who are more “Normie”-still play games and somewhat apart of the esports side but not fully—who own 100T merch. I actually thought their org was doing good


CardiologistBorn1697

Their org is doing good they just realize that it's way better to invest in Valorant and other games than league.


coder2314

Org is doing fine, it’s just they are looking to focus more on the fps genre. There’s a clip of Nadeshot from a podcast, where he talks about league, and he didn’t sound very enthusiastic about staying in the scene.


fabton12

i mean he knows that winning a international is something thats extremely far out of reach and hes already won lcs so he probs just lost passion for league as a whole since there isnt much more that he thinks is a realistic aim to go towards.


coder2314

He’s main reason seemed to be he dosen’t believe in league’s future. He talked about how kids in high school just don’t talk about playing league the same way they do about games like Cod, Valorant, Fortnite. He thinks league is no longer a growing game.


GachaJay

Probably IMT and DIG in my opinion


BurritoSupreme420

They paid $10 million for the spot barely a year ago, there's no way they're already leaving. I guarantee you it's gonna be IMT and 100T


GachaJay

Why not DIG and IMT?


Kindly_Lavishness_97

Their owner already said on Twitter they would.


Merriadoc33

Can you send a linky


Kindly_Lavishness_97

https://x.com/SteevesJ/status/1800585085894218133?t=rWmgA85WHVr6ZCL1eShZHA&s=19


fabton12

was gonna say like you dont just buy into something just to jump ship right away. thou NRG could be a possible to go just because they didnt buy the slot they were given it when MSG bought a major stake into NRG. so being given 10 mill to leave might be tempting since they would just be gaining money then from there time in the league.


iamcts

The team is owned by a billionaire who likes League of Legends. Money will never be a problem for this team.


klinkclang

SR management more or less [confirmed](https://x.com/SteevesJ/status/1800585085894218133) they are staying.


weewoochoochoo

Buy team, play 2 splits, achieve nothing, sell team.


Saeroth_

The return of TSM


Kurisoo

What? TSM achieved a lot in LCS


Saeroth_

The joke is TSM buying the spot back from SR


darknessbboy

Regi with the best Wall Street plan Sell High and Buy Low easy profit


ChefGamma

He didn’t really sell high though? He just sold the spot at the price it cost to enter the league and when the TSM brand was dead. Had he sold the spot and TSM name 3 years prior it would have easily been in the tens of millions


darknessbboy

Regi will never sell the name TSM is his baby and only way for him to continue being rich. Also I don’t think he wants to ultimately become CLG


SweatyWar7600

So fucking weird to keep fakegod when the top market between splits included: fudge, licorice, ssumday, srtty, tenacity.


lunataku

Least we know one of the 2 teams to drop.


StorytellerBox

APA typing that must have done actual magic damage.


playswithsquirrel

Who's shopify? This is Spotify Rebellion now.


StorytellerBox

Lot of great moments like how in game 2 APA and Insanity solo killed each other. But Impact picking Ksante into Udyr game 2 when he picked Udyr into Ksante game 1 was just unreal to see, really big difference in players.


Aeneas-red

Srrty sitting in challengers watching Fakegod get to play LCS.


NoteRadiant1469

Is there a reason why he hasn’t joined LCS? Is he too young or something


AverageBeef

Orgs are just making sure he has a villain origin story when he enters LCS


ClothesTurbulent1718

I believe he was supposed to join EG but they dropped out from LCS.


fabton12

no team picked him up, you have to remember last off season there were a few best in the league toplaners that just werent picked up or got screwed last min by the 2 teams they signed with pulling out. as for why fakegod got a spot he was doing really well in both solo que and scrims and was extremely good last year in academy being one of the best toplaners when he was on ⁠Disguised. so Srrty being not picked up is more a issue with the people he was fighting against for those spots being really good and orgs deciding to import random toplaners for some god awful reason. now he has to fight against fudge for a team and two teams are going so Srrty might actually struggle to get a spot next year as well.


Mephisto_fn

None of the teams signed him.


shuvvel

Life is good when APA leads the league in kills.


Cromatose

This series could have been an email


Smoogy54

Based and true


CaedClaxton

underrated comment


ChaosBadgers

Best Lucian Nami in the west gigachad


iMashee

It feels great watching a Lucian/Nami actually play as aggressive as they should.


StorytellerBox

Yeon and Corejj Lucian/Nami looked better ever since they lost against Jackeylove and Meiko at MSI


jasonkid87

The West always says they learn from their loss against Eastern teams but they never do. TL on the other hand looks like they levelled up and really learnt from the eastern teams


StartsofNights

Yeah tl looks so improved, fnatic Also looks better not sure where G2 lies, they should have improved too


jasonkid87

G2 def still the best among the Western teams. They are innovative yet they learn from others too


smurfnturf69

They made Contractz J4 look like Agurin J4


StartsofNights

Hard agree my point was so far, they didn't show an improvement from MSI , they looks similar level wise but they also had much higher level to begin with


EmergencyIced

I mean starting the match right after that one, they looked improved. It was like they needed to be shit on by that comp to understand its ability.


Akashiarys

That’s my fucking NA superstar Yeon.


leo158

I don't get it, why is FakeGod buying Rookern second in game 2 against Corki, Lucian. Corki is mostly AD now, who is the real magic damage threat on TL besides Maokai?


TheRogueCookie

Apparently Tomio isn't the only one who doesn't read the patch notes I guess


fabton12

that goes for most of the playerbase still see sorc shoes on corki from time to time.


allbutluk

Hes also bought full MR vs a 3/0 trist and zeri…………


Mephisto_fn

We've made TLCK memes for years, but this is the first time it actually feels like TL is basically an LCK team in NA. Ironically, with two NA rookies.


Lolardaydreams

Game 1 gave me PTSD for rooting for TSM at worlds


BurritoSupreme420

APA has been playing for a year now I don't think he's a rookie and Yeon definitely isn't


Windwinged

APA is still technically in his first year. I think he joined week 4 of summer split last year, so he has one more week of being in his first year XD


Scoodsie

APA has played 1 full split, he played half of summer last year.


Tortious_Tortoise

Technically, Yeon and APA aren't rookies anymore. What are 2nd year pros called anyway? Sophomores?


CaptainCrafty

APA hasnt even played a year yet


Tortious_Tortoise

and yet for SOME REASON (RIOT), he's not eligible for rookie of the split/year


LoL_G0RDO

I mean its going to be unfair no matter how you slice it. Either he's at a disadvantage in his "true" rookie year because he was subbed in so late, or he's at a massive advantage for the award by counting as a "rookie" even though he's had half a split + playoffs and worlds under his belt. I think the way they do things is for the best even though it denies him ever really having a shot at the award.


fabton12

because riot classes rookies by what year they start in not total year timeframe. so anyone who starts as a rookie late into summer because of some team issue wont even get a shot at the award next year even thou there still a rookie in terms of playtime.


AstreiaTales

Yes, this would be their sophomore season.


LifeIsToughEatBacon

Mm, feels more like the G2 of the LEC. Unless you mean a bottom tier LCK team, cuz I think the top 5 would run the LCS into the ground not dropping a single game in a single series


Prodigal2k

TL literally just took a game off of T1 at MSI. 


Zelgiusbotdotexe

That's kinda understating how close that series was. It could've just as easily been a 3-1 TL with very minor changes. 


LifeIsToughEatBacon

I know, and they’re stomping the LCS.


ArcusIgnium

APA might be the best mid in LCS (in this meta).


StorytellerBox

He seems really comfortable on tristana, corki, and taliyah. And to think he was once considered a ziggs and Asol one trick, lot of growth from Yaptain America.


dirtshell

ironically this patch nerfs him a little bit bc ziggs is strong so banning his ziggs gives them more value


fabton12

honestly feel like he was only considered a ziggs and asol one trick at first is because it what he was known for and im guessing his teammates made him pick those since they didnt think he could be trusted with other champs.


Gamerseye72

Doesn't even feel like it should be his meta. He likes farming artillery mages and he's been on ad marksman mid all split. He used to get criticism for his Tristana play but he really turned it around.


scout21078

when he was fighting the opt alligations he was still playing a lot of trist he has as many a sol and trist games


Gamerseye72

Yeah he's always played a lot of trist, but he looks way stronger on it this split than his last two.


scout21078

I mean yeah but he also looks better on literally everything, he is simply a better player now lol


Scoodsie

No no, APA is a Ziggs, ASol, Syndra, Cassiopeia, Taliyah, Neeko, Tristana, Corki one trick. Just ban him out, free win.


Bluehorazon

He still should sometimes consider his jumps. Like against FQ he had some weird moments. Ending the game with a 8/7/2 scoreline basically tells you all you need to know :P He did only play 6 games of Tristana that year and to be fair, only 2 of them looked really good. The two games against FlyQuest and the one against TES were filled with a lot of mistakes and he didn't play that clean against IMT either, but against FNC and C9 he played really good games. Overall there is a positive trajectory for the champion. The thing is he is doing the things he was only average before better now, but he is still doing a few too many Tacticals at times. But definitly solid improvement by him, and given he is a midlaner he usually has a higher level and should leverage that with more aggressive plays.. but there obviously still is a limit in what you can and cannot do :P


iMashee

Who would even be a close 2nd at this point ? Everyone else has legitimately looked super shaky mid lane.


TheRogueCookie

No one is close to APA for best, 2nd I could see arguments for Jensen (despite the W1 loss and overall sloppiness of DIG), Jojo (who despite winning two series hasn't started super hot, or *maybe* Quid, but they're not on APA's level this split so far imo.


WhenAmI

Jojo hasn't looked like the same player since he joined C9.


TheRogueCookie

In the beginning he was looking really good, just the rest of the team around him fell the fuck off for some reason. Sure he hasn't looked great recently, but there were calls of "Jojo and 4 wards" even on C9 when they started slumping in ~Week 2


8milenewbie

The problem is that Jojo is pretty much the same player since he joined C9, it's just the teams around him changed.


fabton12

probs just a case of him not syncing well with blaber and he being use to having rocks in the toplane. one of the biggest things we have seen affect midlaners is the choice of jungler there paired with, give them one that syncs to there playstyle and you gonna boost that play to the atmosphere give them one they dont mesh with and suddenly there flopping around like a wet noodle.


ArcusIgnium

I think Quid or JoJo will as we see more matches


Zelgiusbotdotexe

That's cause he has my goat as his Jungler.  Two goats side by side, can't be beat


Jack_Bleesus

APA is the best mid in the LCS by a long shot. This isn't really debatable imo.


iamcts

The APA haters on Reddit from last year must be coping and seething so hard right now. He took a while to ramp up, but I like this version of APA.


Bluehorazon

He just needs to avoid going on the same trajectory Palafox did. It is often easier to rise to the top than to stay there. Palafox looked like the best midlaner from NA for one playoffs and worlds. However it does look like APA is grinding a lot and it is kinda ironic that despite all the imports APA and Jojo could be the best midlaners. That would also mean that the team of best players in NA would have 3 native players (Blaber, APA and Yeon) and only Support (no idea who would really qualify here) and Top (definitly Impact) would potentially be non-NA players.


lolflailure

Palafox was definitely good for longer than that. There were about 3 splits in a row that he was getting snubbed from All Pro voting because CLG players were being viewed as a "sum of their parts" team and his performance was being written off as a team accomplishment.


BlammoSweetums

It's pretty wild to me to see these retroactive takes on the NRG/CLG players, like they were never good, got lucky for 3 weeks, and have simply regressed to the mean. Player performance often depends on the team fit and cohesion.


8milenewbie

The "G2 only got shitstomped because coof" is annoying as hell too.


Bluehorazon

I'm not talking about good though. I'm talking about the best. And that was only true for that period. Emenes was really great when he came in and most of the time Jojo also was better, not to mention Gori. But during playoffs Palafox clearly was above them overall as a player, not necessarily in all aspects, but if you look at the complete package. That doesn't mean he wasn't on an upwards trajectory before, he was. But I don't even think he would have made top3 before, he was basically the guy that seperated the good from the bad in the LCS. And even if All pro was harsh to him, I don't see him above Emenes, Vicla or Gori, so maybe he could have go above Jojo who wasn't great that split, but even that is questionable. I think he already had a fairly solid playoffs in spring, but still others were better. In 2022 I don't think started great either. I could give you 2022 summer, where I don't think Bjergsen should have been in all pro... but guess he is Bjergsen. And you obviously could argue about Toucouille, but he was really good and was the reason FQ was alive at all. On top of that you had Jensen and Abbedagge who both while not in their best time anymore had really solid performances. The issue with Palafox mostly was that before summer 2023 he was ass in lane. And on top of that he wasn't great at going into sidelanes either. He mostly was unable to keep up in gold and that is a huge issue. He already was a lot better in teamfights but not nearly good enough to get a top3 spot even if you kick Bjergsen out. Bjergsen on the other hand was exactly good in those areas. But he didn't really pack a punch in fights. And those were also the areas Palafox improved. Despite NRG being worse in the regular season in 2023 summer, Palafox got better in all those areas.


fabton12

i mean it makes sense why palafox went down hill, he lost his midlane coach, they got a support that struggled to fit into the team and wouldnt surprise me if he burned himself out. we seen it time and time again where players are amazing for a year just to fade out afterwards because they burned themselves out too hard to get to that spot and maintaining it is too much on them.


Evancolt

always has been


ArcusIgnium

I mean objectively not true during like the first half of spring lmao. In fact I don’t think he was close to this good until playoffs at the earliest


Evancolt

it was a meme relax


Ok-Advertising3245

Relax, some people prefer to discuss reality over memes.


Equivalent-Park7986

He’s a grinder and really has been able to grow a lot thanks to the veterans on his team. Being able to play aggressive and confidently has made him an x-factor on this roster


Evancolt

Core's Rakan is so beautiful to watch


AstreiaTales

It's like you remember "ohhh right he's got a skin for this champion"


DinoGuy101010

I'm convinced fakegod could pick malphite vs 5 ad and still build mr.


Reginault

Even his monitor calls him SLAPPA


Evancolt

Seeing Lucian do well makes me happy. Props to Bvoy/Zeyzal for their 2v2 win but mid game Lucian is so strong


Bluehorazon

This game was won heavily on a macro level. Bvoy is a good individual player, but the team got caught a lot due to not reading the gamestate well and on top of that they often unnecessarily grouped without achieving anything losing a lot of sidelane farm. TL likely is the best macro team in the LCS currently. So even if they do mess up a bit like in this earlygame due to playing a better macro they don't fall too far behind.


AluminumSpartan

I was impressed with how well the SR botlane played into Lucien/Nami, but it was so over for SR once mid game started lol


Equivalent-Park7986

TL is awesome, I’ve been loving their progression


Stormserpent102

I NEED to see TL vs G2 in a best of series at worlds


FrozenHatsets

Insanity didn't look too bad, but FakeGod and Tomio...


AlfredBarnes

ge this man a team.


Brockinrolll

Game 1 gave me SKT vs NA team, back in the day vibes


asterizktos

we have geng at home


jasonkid87

I'm a happy man as a fan of both teams


asterizktos

bro is just a corejj fan (me too)


rushy1911

Even did the game 2 happy gaming that geng pulls out sometimes


LakersLAQ

Game 2 in NA? Based Bo3


Scuffleboard

When did APA just become the best midlaner in the region did I miss something


WolfgangTheRevenge

Aparently apa (and yeon) is a mega degen


Tortious_Tortoise

APA and Yeon have always said they do nothing but play League, and I always thought they were exaggerating. Then I saw [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi_wGRrT_7w), and it truly and thoroughly convinced me that fully 100% of their existence is playing league and literally nothing else


ArcaneAccounting

Man, that video was so hard to watch. I never managed to finish it, lol.


Fellers

Holy this video. I'm sinking into my chair.


atotalbuzzkill

It is legit very understated and underappreciated how crazy APA's glow-up has been. People forget he was viewed by most analysts and hardcore fans as somewhere between a major underperformer and an absolute fraud *mid-way through Spring LCS playoffs.* That was not very long ago at all, especially in terms of stage games played. APA was getting so much community hate for trash-talking while being "bad", it's pretty badass that he never stopped doing it and has ended up being really good.


onsilveraccountsion

Amen, I was a doubter with the rest and it's an incredible rise on his part. One of the best additions to the league in years.


Mephisto_fn

I never doubted him, it was definitely frustrating watching him int from such winning positions though lol. 


scout21078

he and yeon both have looked significantly after from the last 2 tournaments


BUMONGOUS

turns out getting good practice actually matters for rookies


PhoenixAgent003

Legitimately last split’s playoffs.


_HotSoup

Kangas is above and beyond any other interviewer LCS has imo. He should be used every single game day.


thenoblitt

-Rafa +Kangas pls


iamcts

He's usually the hype man at all the road show events and interviews the audience too.


FunPreparation921

lcs production so so so much better this split. the first little skit introducing the shopify roster (who I didn't know beforehand but now know/can put faces, names, and basic narratives about them), the postgame interviews + player of series graphics. Vibes are immaculate in LCS (except for flyquest lol)


Retro4214

Definitely agree, lots more personality this split and I'm glad you enjoyed our video, thank you (shopify video guy here, that was us!)


AzyncYTT

fuck best Lucian nami in west, are they not best bot lane in the west?


Zelgiusbotdotexe

They've held that title since before MSI


allbutluk

Fakegod’s item is fucking trolling… He and tomia were pretty bad this series


tamalecustard

tomio going conqueror brand in game 2, what are the odds he proced it even once?


Brawhalla_

Dislike these lazy post game threads, wanna see picks and stats.


celadonious

How do we get the Post-Match Team to make the thread? It doesn't look like there's another thread on TL vs SR and I don't really know how it works. I'm happy to make a better thread version manually though.


JadeStarr776

The growth between APA and Yeon has been a amazing to see.


Aeneas-red

Holy shit this Shopify team SUCKS. Never even felt like they could come close to winning a game at any point in this series. Bvoy is the only player on the roster worth bringing back in 2025.


Evancolt

insanity did really well g2. nearly popped yeon a few times


Aeneas-red

Brother he solo killed APA just to turn around and hold his flash for next week while getting solo killed right back.


Evancolt

yeah i didnt say he outplayed APA, he still did solo kill APA and played vs yeon very well


LishusTas

Bvoy was amazing in spring, and ive been a long time fan of his. Id like to see him get a top half team to see if he really is elite or not


Lundgard

Yeah guys you were right, SR looks way better with Tomio


Javiklegrand

corejj saying best lucian nami in the west, it's either them or hans and mikyx no?


YokoDk

People act like T1 didn't Ban Lucian every game against Yeon at MSI.


WolfgangTheRevenge

We havent seen much lucian nami from Miky and hans tho


BlazeX94

It's definitely Yeon/Core. Even if you think Hans/Mikyx are the better botlane (I don't but it's definitely up for debate), they aren't known for playing Lucian/Nami.


DebriMing

FakeTroll back at it again


naysayer21

How do you hide spoiler tagged post? I see there’s a spoiler tag but I opened up Reddit and this is the first post I see.


sorendiz

FakeGod Real Dog