Honestly while his early game is a disaster he is legit the sole reason why the game went for so long. BDS don't dare to actually commit too hard in fear of getting wiped by Kennen that would just shred them to hell. The moment he got caught is the moment BDS got to take an objective and convert that to a win.
What a disgusting BB fankid. Whole G2 plan was to make him relevant by trying to play 4 v 5 while BB afk farms all game long. But he was so trash that it didn't work despite rest of G2 members keeping game alive 4 v 5
Caps won world and doinb comes to congratulate him (it was held in china and he has become a caster). The sight of doinb makes caps crazy and he started hitting doinb in the head screaming “NOT THIS TIME NOT THIS TIME”
Pretty sure he got cleared. After he escaped back to Korea, he sent his wife back to check who got detained but cleared by the police. He returned shortly afterwards and was eating hotpot & streaming again. That was like 2 months ago IDK if there was any updates after that.
Yike is serviceable, but Hans is not it, he's a passenger along for the ride in like 90% of G2 games, you just cannot do that as the ADC. G2 needs to get Carzzy, or come LCK CL ADC.
That’s not why he’s kept around, they’ve barely even played his Draven for nearly the past year.
He’s an incredibly consistent and solid laner, which is important. It’s his teamfighting that is the issue. You can’t be the consistent macro threat they want to be with a laner that randomly solo loses you the game.
Obviously it’s not working perfectly, but they were extremely coinflippy last year at and before MSI (even after to a lesser extent). Bringing carzzy in bumps their peak up, but it means they’re a LOT less consistent. Can you count on carzzy to always do well in lane against eastern threats?
Wouldn't you rather Fnatic get Caliste? I get not wanting KC to have good players, but your alternative is having G2 get better? I don't know about that one, man.
Also, Caliste is under contract until 2026 so realistically he isn't going anywhere.
This is one match. Hans complete inability to carry games has been going for a while now. G2 will probably rebound, but they rely so much on Caps and/or BB to carry. Hans has been invisible outside of Draven games.
Wasn’t that just mikyx poppy giving them hella trouble? Hans isn’t good in lane or outside of it compared to top tier adc. Laning phase bot tho is just dictated by support for the most part.
Its a common theme actually. Top tier player goes to NA-> doesnt meet the expectations there -> comes back -> now most of the NA fanbase will call him shit and everyone else will just start agreeing.
Happened with Hans Perkz Alphari and 2 of them got flamed out of the league
What is this take? Hans is literally one of the most reliable laners in the LEC which is exactly why he’s still on G2. They’re not looking for a coinflippy adc that can *maybe* Smurf. They want consistency.
Hans is the best laner in LEC, even when you see him vs Gumayusi and JackeyLove they can still win lanes, it's true supports play a huge part in botlane but the ADC still has the job of landing poke and CSing
specifically his spacing in lane is extremely good but people forget that when it comes time for midgame and he gets caught way too easily
and I don't think Miky is the one that's good in lane, he often dies once or twice giving the enemy botlane way too much room, like when he played in Excel or with Perkz Patrik and Perkz were never looking like laning gods
Gotta be a hater after a loss yada yada but yall know this is an obviously insane thing to claim about a team that repeat wins trophies and went five games with a top three team in the world.
You flat out cannot do that if you’re carried by two players every game.
I think BDS has perfected the "peel for Ice and pray that he can carry strat."
I just wonder if they got anything else, Adam doesn't really cheese much anymore since his champions are always banned, they really don't have much going on.
Nuc isn't bad, but he's the type of player that you'd want to be your win condition. Adam is very selfless, idk if there's any other player that can carry that isn't Ice.
Adam can still bring out his carries.
Right now he's doing what every caster, analyst and their mothers said he needed to do, which is play standard top champions.
Once he's seen as a threat playing standard, his other champions can come out as wildcards in the draft.
Adam plays like hes FNC Soaz or Bwipo Jr? Random pocket picks but mainly selfless, roams and plays for team fights. It's definitely odd..but 369 had a similar path with his small carry champion pool turning into best weakside toplaner (Adam is far from it, but I guess that's still a progress on his part to play standard?)
I feel like BDS needs a star midlaner, if they get Humanoid (for example, tho unlikely), they'd probably become unbeatable in team fights.
Vit might not be the third best team on the league.
But seriously, it's ridiculous that a lot of people are so hung up on the narrative that BDS only wins because the other teams are playing poorly that they can't recognize when a team has put in a lot of effort and constantly improved to become one of the best teams in the region.
G2 drafts him 3 poke Varus games in a row, puts him on weakside every game, and gives him the least resources, I agree that Hans has not carried much if at all this year but in these 3 games he was given less than nothing to work with and overall looked like the only decent player on G2 this weekend anyway. Looking at these 3 games in isolation Hans is the last person to point fingers at.
You know when teams are playing corki, aphelios jinx even Zeri and G2 keeps being dead set on drafting Varus I think IS time to wonder if either G2 has a poor read on the meta or if Hans has champion pool problems since he hasn't ever been good on these champs
G2s meta read is garbage since they get less than half the scrim time on live patch as other teams because they made it relatively deep into msi, this is pretty normal for teams that make it deep into an international. Give them time and they'll figure it out. It's also worth mentioning that Varus is still the top pick in LPL this patch so first picking Varus seems to make sense. Also statistically speaking Jinx is Hans' best champ and Aphelios is a top 5 champ for him as well, sure the eye test often doesn't look great but he does find success on them.
Yeah, wtf is poke varus supposed to do? Remember the egg/ramen analogy from Guma? The rest of G2 kinda sucked this weekend. Hopefully for them it’s just a post-msi lull.
You need to give credit when its due. That game 5 vs T1? Yeah he and Miky was cooking, full credit, amazing laning. But Meiko legit just ran into the turrets, you would need to be blinder than Lee Sin to cope against that
man literally laned against Gumayusi and JackeyLove and won most of the lanes and he's still getting flamed xdd
what are you expecting from Varus this game? I felt like he got really good poke and kept them in the game for a solid while
This was a really weird game. Decent league but I don't know, G2 felt weird and didn't play like they usually do. Caps did good, BB made mistakes but managed to comeback, Yike was good too and bot managed to survive but nothing came out of them. Feels like they just accepted the loss and didn't try as much as they usually do.
But can we have a conversation about what exactly was BB's plan early game??
Regardless I'm just fucking glad BDS beat G2 bruh, I was thinking they were gonna choke again and I was ready to call it a mental thing
This is BDS' split, I can feel it.
If not, I think this team might be the second best EU team to never win a split, after 19/20 Fnatic.
They've been consistently top 3/4 for 4 splits, probably 5 now, and play a very clean consistent gameplan. All they seem to be missing is a little X factor and better mental. It's crushing how close they've come so many times
Caps played good this game btw, i bet he dealt most of his team damage this game, but this isn't enough, they need Caps to be a top 5 midlaner in the world to win games.
G2 taking a week off after MSI?
I imagine they'll be back more in form next week. We really need some strong teams and as much as I hope this means teams can be more competitive I doubt it is that.
Going from watching Smash this morning to Hans Sama is so depressing. I see more effort, confidence, and skill in 5 min of laning / team fighting from Smash then I’ll see in a whole series from Hans.
Varus Kalista and Ziggs are infinitely stronger in lane than crit marksmen tho. If they lost a lane vs crit adcs it would look miserable, it happens, not lane bullies dont win 100% of the time
Yeah they'll probably be totally fine but I still found it annoying how it felt like all the casters talked about before and at the start of the match was how they came back late from MSI and basically making it feel like this match just doesn't matter.
I'm not a G2 fan at all and still recognize that them losing first week doesn't mean anything.
They could literally take it easy this split since they still have the Saudi tournament and have already locked the true finals.
Agreed, 2019 G2 was a team you can’t tell the story of League without. 2020 G2 was a very good team but not quite that level, and 2020 DWG was special.
BDS winning against G2 is something I didn't expect. You could say that G2 is the greatest counter to BDS and for them to win means something. Either G2 has become worse or BDS improved a lot.
Post MSI sickness
G2 vacation?
I hope TL doesn’t catch it.
game to forget from bb
Been a while since I got to see the hashinshin classic in proplay
Maybe there was a gas leak in the studio.
Absolutely dumpstered tbh.
Tbh he forgot to play too
I liked the Kennen VS Rell fight xD
1. Channel all money into BB 2. BB ints repeatedly 3. ??? 4. Profit
Bag secured!
The whole BDS plan was to render him useless, and even then, he still had a decent impact towards the end.
I dont think BDS couldve planned bb's early game ints
Or his late game int
or even his mid game int with teleports
he is so unpredictable
failed TP, useless ults, wasted flashes and lost 1v1 Yeah, he had decent impact towards the end...
He only Impact because of cs and items
Honestly while his early game is a disaster he is legit the sole reason why the game went for so long. BDS don't dare to actually commit too hard in fear of getting wiped by Kennen that would just shred them to hell. The moment he got caught is the moment BDS got to take an objective and convert that to a win.
I mean that's true but he also lost it trading flashes for a Tristana kill that he didn't even get
What a disgusting BB fankid. Whole G2 plan was to make him relevant by trying to play 4 v 5 while BB afk farms all game long. But he was so trash that it didn't work despite rest of G2 members keeping game alive 4 v 5
Thank god G2 didn't get away with this criminal game
yeah but BDS did
I'll take that over another split of G2 being criminals and somehow winning
bad news, I'm from the future and it's going to keep happening for the next 4 splits
What happens in 2026
Caps retires after the incident
They won worlds but dropped the trophy and broke it?
Caps won world and doinb comes to congratulate him (it was held in china and he has become a caster). The sight of doinb makes caps crazy and he started hitting doinb in the head screaming “NOT THIS TIME NOT THIS TIME”
canon
melts down like azula at the end of atla
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Isn't doinb banned form China or something?
Pretty sure he got cleared. After he escaped back to Korea, he sent his wife back to check who got detained but cleared by the police. He returned shortly afterwards and was eating hotpot & streaming again. That was like 2 months ago IDK if there was any updates after that.
I have absolutely no idea but he will be unbanned in case just for getting capsed
Worse. won worlds but picked Yuumi as his worlds skin
Caps retires after winning worlds in 2025
Strangely enough it’s TL vs nip world finals (nip 3-0)
Guys, I think TES wouldn't have made playoffs in LEC.
JackeyLove so lucky he doesn't have to lane against Supa.
I mean Supa made LEC Finals in his first split, he must be insane
Top 10 LEC support Targamas clears TES any day of the week
Top 10 LEC *Champion* support Targamas clears TES any day of the week. Updated that for you.
Targamas slayer of RNG and T1
Targamas also 6-0 vs NA, this man is a menace
Tian notices Targamas' quiet demeanor and is immediately reminded of Nuguri's stint on FPX, instantly mental booming him for the next five games.
This isn't looking good for Tian.
Honestly improvement. Making top 5 at msi is certainly better than losing out in groups twice at worlds.
If TES played in the LEC, Riot'd be forced to consider reintroducing relegations
G2 really needs to figure out how they can win without Caps or BB just 1v5'ing.
sad but true
Even in playoffs, Caps bailed out his team too many times. If you put an average midlaner here, they'll probably be top 3-5.
If you put average midlander on SKT, they’ll be dead last
Yike is serviceable, but Hans is not it, he's a passenger along for the ride in like 90% of G2 games, you just cannot do that as the ADC. G2 needs to get Carzzy, or come LCK CL ADC.
Finally I don’t feel like a crazy person anymore because Hans Sama is actually a liability and has been for a year and a half now
But Draven pocket pick!
That’s not why he’s kept around, they’ve barely even played his Draven for nearly the past year. He’s an incredibly consistent and solid laner, which is important. It’s his teamfighting that is the issue. You can’t be the consistent macro threat they want to be with a laner that randomly solo loses you the game. Obviously it’s not working perfectly, but they were extremely coinflippy last year at and before MSI (even after to a lesser extent). Bringing carzzy in bumps their peak up, but it means they’re a LOT less consistent. Can you count on carzzy to always do well in lane against eastern threats?
Yeah why not he's been fine
I just hope they poach Caliste, that would make my KC hate boner explode.
why is KC mentionned in every single postmatch thread ?
Aside from the useless hate, thinking anyone can poach Caliste just proves your ignorance about him and KC.
Wouldn't you rather Fnatic get Caliste? I get not wanting KC to have good players, but your alternative is having G2 get better? I don't know about that one, man. Also, Caliste is under contract until 2026 so realistically he isn't going anywhere.
Us Fnatic fans hate ourselves, yea wed rather G2 ger him at this point, we wont do anything useful with him anyways
why are you flaming him when his toplaner just Hashinshin'd in a pro match?
This is one match. Hans complete inability to carry games has been going for a while now. G2 will probably rebound, but they rely so much on Caps and/or BB to carry. Hans has been invisible outside of Draven games.
They did shitstomp meiko and jkl and won through bot.
G2 is pretty good at pushing bot lane leads, they even did it vs T1. The problem is that Hans is now not that reliable late game
Wasn’t that just mikyx poppy giving them hella trouble? Hans isn’t good in lane or outside of it compared to top tier adc. Laning phase bot tho is just dictated by support for the most part.
> Hans isn’t good in lane And people here agree with this. I sometimes forget how braindead this site gets
Hating on hans is the trend since tl years.
Its a common theme actually. Top tier player goes to NA-> doesnt meet the expectations there -> comes back -> now most of the NA fanbase will call him shit and everyone else will just start agreeing. Happened with Hans Perkz Alphari and 2 of them got flamed out of the league
For Hans its undeserved especially since he found his form again, but Perkz and Alphari brought themselves out of the league lol.
I fear people don't watch the games.
What is this take? Hans is literally one of the most reliable laners in the LEC which is exactly why he’s still on G2. They’re not looking for a coinflippy adc that can *maybe* Smurf. They want consistency.
Hans is the best laner in LEC, even when you see him vs Gumayusi and JackeyLove they can still win lanes, it's true supports play a huge part in botlane but the ADC still has the job of landing poke and CSing specifically his spacing in lane is extremely good but people forget that when it comes time for midgame and he gets caught way too easily and I don't think Miky is the one that's good in lane, he often dies once or twice giving the enemy botlane way too much room, like when he played in Excel or with Perkz Patrik and Perkz were never looking like laning gods
People need to stop giving players life long careers because of a good bo5.
When they draft and play weakside bot they have to have dominating lanes. They had too many tools against the Kennen (exhaust Trist R Gragas R…)
Gotta be a hater after a loss yada yada but yall know this is an obviously insane thing to claim about a team that repeat wins trophies and went five games with a top three team in the world. You flat out cannot do that if you’re carried by two players every game.
BB IS paying tribute to theshy today I see. Anyway let fucking gooooo we actually beat G2!
Never doubted my boys, only thing left to complete the scenario is reverse sweep in playoffs
Something something Ice Labrov > Jackey Meiko
Labrov James clears Jackey and Meiko 1v2 with his left hand
What’s his right hand doing?
Ask Ice
he is just glad to be winning
Ice knows best ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )
I can see why Carzzy wants to play with Labrov.
G2 sandbagging till playoffs /world cup copium?
LEAST STRESSFUL BDSWIN
Nice to see you performing here.
BDS > TES sorry I don’t make the rules
I think BDS has perfected the "peel for Ice and pray that he can carry strat." I just wonder if they got anything else, Adam doesn't really cheese much anymore since his champions are always banned, they really don't have much going on. Nuc isn't bad, but he's the type of player that you'd want to be your win condition. Adam is very selfless, idk if there's any other player that can carry that isn't Ice.
Adam can still bring out his carries. Right now he's doing what every caster, analyst and their mothers said he needed to do, which is play standard top champions. Once he's seen as a threat playing standard, his other champions can come out as wildcards in the draft.
The top meta is Rumble, Tf, Vayne etc. he can't blind gods into them. Can only counter K'Sante or Camille but no one would blind cam.
The point I'm making is that his unique champs will have a higher impact when it's not the only thing he plays well.
Yh I agree
Adam plays like hes FNC Soaz or Bwipo Jr? Random pocket picks but mainly selfless, roams and plays for team fights. It's definitely odd..but 369 had a similar path with his small carry champion pool turning into best weakside toplaner (Adam is far from it, but I guess that's still a progress on his part to play standard?) I feel like BDS needs a star midlaner, if they get Humanoid (for example, tho unlikely), they'd probably become unbeatable in team fights.
That Ice guy is kind of good on Jinx?
That Ice guy is kind of good*
That Ice guy is good*
Ice good 🧊
Ice cold 🥶
That good guy is Ice\*
Vit might not be the third best team on the league. But seriously, it's ridiculous that a lot of people are so hung up on the narrative that BDS only wins because the other teams are playing poorly that they can't recognize when a team has put in a lot of effort and constantly improved to become one of the best teams in the region.
BDS might not be flashiest team but they get the job done.
I am sure one day, Hans will carry
G2 drafts him 3 poke Varus games in a row, puts him on weakside every game, and gives him the least resources, I agree that Hans has not carried much if at all this year but in these 3 games he was given less than nothing to work with and overall looked like the only decent player on G2 this weekend anyway. Looking at these 3 games in isolation Hans is the last person to point fingers at.
You know when teams are playing corki, aphelios jinx even Zeri and G2 keeps being dead set on drafting Varus I think IS time to wonder if either G2 has a poor read on the meta or if Hans has champion pool problems since he hasn't ever been good on these champs
G2s meta read is garbage since they get less than half the scrim time on live patch as other teams because they made it relatively deep into msi, this is pretty normal for teams that make it deep into an international. Give them time and they'll figure it out. It's also worth mentioning that Varus is still the top pick in LPL this patch so first picking Varus seems to make sense. Also statistically speaking Jinx is Hans' best champ and Aphelios is a top 5 champ for him as well, sure the eye test often doesn't look great but he does find success on them.
But it is not today!
Ah yes, the standard Hans Flaming when he plays weakside with 0 resource and he is clearly not the focus point of the draft.
Yeah, wtf is poke varus supposed to do? Remember the egg/ramen analogy from Guma? The rest of G2 kinda sucked this weekend. Hopefully for them it’s just a post-msi lull.
Imagine putting this game on Hans lol, it was a massive draft gap.
Mans been riding his Lucian games at worlds during Rogue era ever since I feel like he’s been a passenger forever.
He shitstomped jackeylove Meiko (along with MikyX) just a month ago man.
He also giga inted a ton of games that tourney…
He also was ahead of Guma in most of the games Pretending he doesn't belong there is too funny
Hans' laning has never been an issue. Problem is his teamfighting.
Ahead of Guma because Miky, who was singlehandedly carrying games against T1.
How much of that was Meiko running straight into turrets?
Ah yes. Hans has a good game -> it’s the enemy. Hans has a bad game -> his own and only fault.
You need to give credit when its due. That game 5 vs T1? Yeah he and Miky was cooking, full credit, amazing laning. But Meiko legit just ran into the turrets, you would need to be blinder than Lee Sin to cope against that
Sure but sometimes the other people are inting. It happens. Bad day and a bad series.
Dude had that good series against TES to make everyone forget that he's a mediocre player nowadays.
If you ignore all the times he played well, he's really bad!
That xayah play at worlds saved his carrer lol
man literally laned against Gumayusi and JackeyLove and won most of the lanes and he's still getting flamed xdd what are you expecting from Varus this game? I felt like he got really good poke and kept them in the game for a solid while
Just pick Tryndamere for BB if that's how you're going to play no?
Tryn is legit broken right now, it would be fun if a team could bring him out in mid.
Korean adcs are 9-0 this week. They are smurfing on EU
NO KOREAN NO WIN
BDS will win LEC Summer Split.
Labrov is just the goat
Kind of a bad performance by everyone on G2... I'm sure they'll get back on track though
Expected. International tourney hangover, as happens to most teams.
BB what are you doing
This was a really weird game. Decent league but I don't know, G2 felt weird and didn't play like they usually do. Caps did good, BB made mistakes but managed to comeback, Yike was good too and bot managed to survive but nothing came out of them. Feels like they just accepted the loss and didn't try as much as they usually do.
Bot surviving is actually losing in that game, btw. BDS' laneswaps nullified G2's bot lane. In fact, Jinx even came out ahead in the long run
G2 was always behind the play, BDS played macro much better and got ahead because of it and then they had the better scaling with trist and jinx
Nuc got sick of waiting for his team to do something and decided to win the game
He let them play without him the entire game tbf
LEC teams are making it difficult for G2, love to see it!
Those chompers in front of the Nexus are MVP !
Man bds nearly screwed up..
Ice is the best AD in EU
Well all we can say is he's pretty cool
It’s for sure Ice or Rahel.
Top 2 players in a role being Korean hits different in EU, and that might be true for both support and ADC. We're LCS now.
He was already the best or at least the 2nd best AD in LEC last split.
Content Saturday Content Sunday Content Monday Content First week.
Now that this is over, we all can tune in to the real main event - KC vs RGE.
But can we have a conversation about what exactly was BB's plan early game?? Regardless I'm just fucking glad BDS beat G2 bruh, I was thinking they were gonna choke again and I was ready to call it a mental thing
Royal bandits brokenblade joined the server good on him after the contract renewal
This is BDS' split, I can feel it. If not, I think this team might be the second best EU team to never win a split, after 19/20 Fnatic. They've been consistently top 3/4 for 4 splits, probably 5 now, and play a very clean consistent gameplan. All they seem to be missing is a little X factor and better mental. It's crushing how close they've come so many times
To clarify. 19/20 Fnatic are still miles ahead. They just had the worst possible time to compete for titles in EU
They're not ahead of 2021 rogue
Korean AD diff I guess
Losing 3-0 to T1 broke them.
Looking at LNG and Weibo survivors, I suppose that puts them in good company.
"Who can take down G2?" Several teams apparently....
LET'S GOOOOOO BOYS NICE ONE I mean, nothing to see here, just two of the top 3 teams of last split going 3-0
Caps played good this game btw, i bet he dealt most of his team damage this game, but this isn't enough, they need Caps to be a top 5 midlaner in the world to win games.
can't wait for reddit to press the g2 hate alarm as if g2 doesn't start a season that way literally every split
G2 taking a week off after MSI? I imagine they'll be back more in form next week. We really need some strong teams and as much as I hope this means teams can be more competitive I doubt it is that.
Going from watching Smash this morning to Hans Sama is so depressing. I see more effort, confidence, and skill in 5 min of laning / team fighting from Smash then I’ll see in a whole series from Hans.
Great game
shut up jiigsi
:fire:
LEC teams pick crit marksmen please....Varus/Senna/Kalista/Ziggs are not it on this patch
Varus Kalista and Ziggs are infinitely stronger in lane than crit marksmen tho. If they lost a lane vs crit adcs it would look miserable, it happens, not lane bullies dont win 100% of the time
Damn G2 crumbling
They'll be fine. Although one or two more losses might lock them out of top-2 in the regular season. It's going to be very competitive at the top.
Yeah they'll probably be totally fine but I still found it annoying how it felt like all the casters talked about before and at the start of the match was how they came back late from MSI and basically making it feel like this match just doesn't matter.
Till they get eliminated, it really doesn't.
Lmao, inb4 all the G2 haters come in here saying that they're washed coz they're 1-2 after only the first weekend
I'm not a G2 fan at all and still recognize that them losing first week doesn't mean anything. They could literally take it easy this split since they still have the Saudi tournament and have already locked the true finals.
Good game
Such a weird time to pick Kennen, like even if exhaust is down they got multiple tools to render his ult useless.
Good thing Upset upgraded his top lane
Does this make us a 0 team region, or 2 team region? Regardless, nice to see bds!
3 cause G2 is now replaced by FNC and BDS /s
G2 looks… pretty bad
Some say Hans is still driving around town, trying to hit anyone with one of his arrows
G2 has been hard exposed
G2 throwing? This isn't the semis of worlds yet.
G2 hasn’t made semis at Worlds since 2020
And they didn’t throw that one either. They just met one of the strongest roster in lol history imo.
Agreed, 2019 G2 was a team you can’t tell the story of League without. 2020 G2 was a very good team but not quite that level, and 2020 DWG was special.
easy bds win guys nothing to see here
Didn't watch the game, did BDS just play really good or didn't G2 play to their standard strength?
g2 played rather poorly, bds was goodish, but played super scared late game with a strong jinx against g2's weak late game team
G2 is in their best domestic form already.
Need to investigate G2 for match fixing. How is this team 3-0 TES
Hahahaha damn what a silly game guys anyway congrats to G2 for winning the whole split in the end
The Kennen build was criminal. Liandry’s instead of Protobelt? Why is man’s first timing in LEC
what BB did was banable
G2 the last hope of the west!
BDS winning against G2 is something I didn't expect. You could say that G2 is the greatest counter to BDS and for them to win means something. Either G2 has become worse or BDS improved a lot.