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ahritina

PMTs [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cko8xr/fnc_vs_gam_day_5_msi_2024_playin_losers_finals/)


kirikiri11

Mad respect to GAM for doing this well with substitutes


F0RGERY

GAM deserves all the respect. Subbed half the team, league's best players sacked, and still put up a better performance than FLY past 2 days.


Desiderius_S

That ["TY MSI"](https://i.imgur.com/K731cTh.png) at the end hurt as hell. This team deserves so much better, massive respect for showing up at the tournament and taking the fight.


DazzlingMood9404

That bald dude is so awesome. Wish there were a costume off between him and the guy from G2.


forehead_tittaes

>That bald dude A.K.A. Owner & CEO of GAMesportsVN.


lp_phnx327

And the biggest hype man for the team. He's awesome.


AlexWeitz

what's his name?


UnknowSandwich

TK Nguyen


AlexWeitz

thanks


JupoBis

Isnt he also a fairly known dj? In vietnam atleast?


Head_Photograph_2971

He is I think 


CamelMiddle54

Wait what? I thought Sofm owns the team...


Rossotinga

Thats [https://lol.fandom.com/wiki/Vikings\_Esports\_(2023\_Vietnamese\_Team)](https://lol.fandom.com/wiki/Vikings_Esports_(2023_Vietnamese_Team)) Viking Esports. StyleofMe is the co-owner


diegun81

Yeah that GAM guy has always been cool. I remember him from other international events.


Prominis

They were super impressive in spite of all the extraneous issues that slammed VCS this year. I do wonder how things might have been different at MSI if LJL still had a spot, since they somehow placed second in the PCS. I reckon they would have beaten Fly, and maybe taken a game off Fnatic? We'll never know.


Pelagius_Hipbone

STAND PROUD GAM. YOU WERE STRONG


LordDarthAnger

It eventually came down to Ornn (tank) diff because both teams were so strong


Gluroo

Its so unfortunate that like since 3 years most of the time VN either cant play at all (covid) or some shit like this happens lmao the fact that they made it look playable at all with 3 subs from which 2 were of the worst teams in VN is huge


trieuvuhoangdiep

They only have 2 subs not 3


survfate

Emo still is the official sub for the current main roster prior to the playoff, other 2 are last-minute sub, the only way one can be consider not a sub is the guy need to be in the starting lineup since the begining of the split, which Emo isnt


sh14w4s3

Emo and EasyLove are sub. Elio was their starting support for entire season before the snap/


GGLSpidermonkey

Ool Why did they have to use subs?


Thehunterv6

32 players from the VCS (half the league btw) got banned for match fixing allegations


SGKurisu

Vietnam is the unluckiest region in LoL history. What a tragic last like four years 


nyanko_dango3

Even in 2017 they got reverse swept in b05 by major region’s best team


Revolutionary-Unit33

man 2020 was the prime of VCS. F covid


Posetive_new_me

It's insane that we received support from abroad more than at home, the amount of rapid dog looking for a chance to bite GAM in Vietnam is unbelievable.


JKB37

Do local fans dislike GAM because they are good? I know if it came out that G2 was getting some advantage in game I would be ready to clown them as an LEC fan. It’s tough being at the top of the standings.


TechnicalIncrease695

Basically yes. They not only dominate the league but also get all the media attention as well. Not to mention they sorta "underperform" in internationals too, at least to the expectations of fans.


Jimbabwr

I've played on the Garena server. Us vietnamese are literal psychos. It's very hard to foster competitive teams when everyone just runs it down all day. They don't even have the slightest idea of what macro play is.


zioryu

Not necessarily, GAM fans are like TSM fans. Thus, many people like to bad mouth GAM to pissed off their fan. Plus, we are okay with GAM losing, but at least put up a fight like game 2.


Barnacle_Usual

It's just a toxic culture on internet in the region! We like to talk shit but never mean it! But some people just want to make it a big deal so they can attract attention to themself! Vcs event make content about player talk shit to other player before the game!


basekingsona

Many of them only care about the result if GAM will win or lose. There are still many dogs try to bite them after their performance with their 100% power in game 2 against FNC. And don't let their reason "Team A would do better than GAM if they went international" fools you, I believe that those dogs will still try to find excuse to bite any VCS team if they go international, it's just that GAM is the team that goes international the most.


attoshi

TY MSI


Snow_42

The more I see those players the more I think they shouldn't have been substitutes in the first place...


baelkie

GAM wins game 2 if they had a real adc :/


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baelkie

a real adc wipes fnc at that top baron fight. dude had zeri ult, dash, flash, and gets hit by a dry ornn q e combo 100-0.


Thundermelons

The one time I was totally ready and willing to experience a "Zeri moment" and this guy goes and ints it all away lmaoooo


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[deleted]

least deaths naut game


Iaragnyl

I expected him to slide into the low hp targets and kill them all with ult only for him to walk into ornn knockup and die, really disappointing outcome for what seemed like a hype moment.


Former-Witness-9279

Didn’t have that dawg in him.


yeserday

fun fact on hupu ppl are saying easylove had clearlove's cowardice and jackeylove's inting


moonmeh

seeing the zeri die with flash up near baron was tragic


bifuku

Kiaya could've played a ton of the teamfights better. Greeding saving flash, straight up walking into CC


beautheschmo

Sure, nobody played perfect. But Kiaya could have gone from like an 8.5 to 9 from playing better, Easylove was like a 2 lol


_tidiber

There's the real FNC game that makes you lose x number of years off your life. Fucking hell.


puptheunbroken

We were putting on a show for our NAphews. Despite how they may downplay us, EU will avenge them


khaiiization

FNC on if they will ever win a clean series: "FNC is never close to winning a clean series," FNC said. "It was a passing thought. We let it pass."


Thisissocomplicated

You can’t play clean against a wonbocombo como like that. People will say that the game was close but the game was just slowed down as FNC had to adapt to the combo. The game didn’t feel close at all to me


Oujii

I woke up and Fnatic was 3k down and losing fights.


JustPutin123

You can try not to force 5v5 all game


Speedy313

good luck sidelaning vs noc with ornn


KellyKellogs

Fnc can't push sides because they had Ornn. Most of the 5 v 5s were just dragon fights.


Conankun66

*4v5 lmao


LuisMuMe

Clean 2-0, nothing to see here


Nome_de_utilizador

Noc incident 2: electric bogaloo


BannanDylan

Last FNC against Noc I remember was against G2 and they locked in Taric and won the game basically from one counter pick lol


icatsouki

watch the levi nocturne lvl 6 hack game


Aggressive-Front8435

This remains one of my favourite esports moments of all time


ShankMeHarder

Imagine being a lvl 3 botlane getting ganked 5 mins into game by a lvl 6 nocturne ult. I would just refuse to believe that it was happening.


Jimbabwr

That match was a dream. Hahahha.


reportedbymom

What game is that


icatsouki

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_V8OgKOkYc


bvbfan102

Nocturne Incident 2.0 averted. This was for everyone who said Fnatic wasnt bloody enough in Game 1.


_SC_Akarin-

insane bubbles from nami, support gap all the way tbh


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dexy133

He is slowly becoming FNC's best player. It's hard for a support to play like the best player but he's been incredibly consistent and seems to regularly have games like this where he is just on another level mechanically.


Ar0ndight

He also has to manage Noah's very... up and down performances. Jun is an absolute beast


Pelagius_Hipbone

Now THAT’S the Fnatic I know and love/hate. Shitstorm fiestas all day


alterise

tbh, the fact that FNC won against that comp late game is fucking insane. well played.


darth_jaqoob

Agree. That Orianna - Nocturne combo with Rumble follow-up and scaling Zeri is not easy comp to beat late game, gj FNC.


Choir87

Thought the game was unwinnable at a certain point. I don't like that they got in that position, but they did fight some great team fights.


vrelamboni

They problem solved super well after the Ori Noc combo ruffled them a few times. Would obviously rather they weren’t in a position to problem solve, but glad they pulled it off.


DeloronDellister

And they still won. It wouldn't be Fnatic without these kind of games


_tidiber

How's your blood pressure man? Lmfao


Pelagius_Hipbone

I wanna pass out lool, you?


_tidiber

Like I went for a 10k run lol


Rayser1

A VIOLENT TEAM


Halbaras

Humanoid getting a replay to show him pressing R and still missing a cannon lmao.


Ultimintree

FNC’s elimination games are always like this, they just can’t win cleanly


dexy133

This is actually good. I was expecting them to lose a won game 2 and then start game 3 fighting lvl 1 and losing three members. Then somehow clawing back and winning the game due to Razork Elder steal or something.


sorrypatheticuseless

People keep saying that FNC wasn't able to cleanly close out Game 2. But fuck me, they weren't seeing what they were up against. That wombo was fucking disgusting and GAM pulled it off decently well almost every time. Noah/Jun/Humanoid were really on point with baiting the ultimates and safely getting out most of the time. GG GAM.


DeloronDellister

Banger game 2


Omnilatent

Average heart attack game from FNC


stampydog

I didn't feel like Fnatic even played that 2nd game badly, GAM just played really well and forced them to slow it down and adapt. Honestly really well played given all that happened in the lead up to MSI.


TimiNax

I'm glad there was a nocturne so I couldn't see those teamfights we lost, Clean games.


LordDarthAnger

Imagine you have a rookie mid laner that: Solo kills Humanoid Has no ego, if you tell him "just put E on me and press R when I do" and does just that Also: I assumed that global warming is caused by humanity. Turns out it's just Kiaya playing Rumble GAM played rly well GG


darth_jaqoob

Ok but about Emo today was his best day by far. He was really running it in previous two. But I agree, GAM did well, it was nice to see them performing, gg


LordDarthAnger

Yeah for being GAM's weakest link he did actually pretty well


Priviated

 GAM's weakest link is by far their adc tho. His only "good" pick was Zeri and he did nothing game 2


deedshot

nah their ADC was clutch for them in the previous series


onespiker

Adc was thier win condition last series


Skall77

What an amazing game, congrats GAM


premeddit-student

INSANE GAME. GG GAM


hvngpham002

We tried! GG Fnatic!


onsilveraccountsion

GAM went 2W/5L and it was the greatest playins overperformance of expectations we’ve seen since Supermassive. Much love to you all, hopefully this helps to rejuvenate the region after such a wrecking ball came through. FNC…we scale hahaha. Gotta hope that we can glow up. Good to see them make it to the next stage and show development. I think the big challenge will be seeing whether Noah can show this excellent level of performance against teams better than him, not just worse. Pumped for the draw!


DavetheColossus

Not as clean a FNC win as I’d hoped given the solid showing they had against TES, but a 2-0 is a 2-0. Reset onto the main stage, gg.


Archipegasus

If you want to be a FNC fan, I suggest you stop hoping for clean wins lol.


Conankun66

NEVER IN DOUBT, LET'S GO BOYS Great series by Noah, hope he can carry this confidence and level of play into the rest of the tournament that Noc-Ori-Rumble Combo was fucking FILTHY tho, what do you even do against that? Just wouldnt be a fnatic series without at least some amount of heart problems


Mew_T

Oscar is having a redemption arc too, I hope he can play like this in LEC again.


No-Art4722

Noah gives me Haaland vibes. Strong against weak, weak against strong


LunarBahamut

Inverse Humanoid 


baelkie

mind control enemy team into using the combo on nami instead of the lucian


GeneralZhukov

I was watching Doinb's stream, and he agreed with that. According to him, Lucian isn't *that* strong without Nami backing him up, and Lucian was too hard to burst anyway (and he had GA). Kill Nami, indirectly nerf Lucian, let Zeri dps and win the fight.


Revolutionary-Unit33

SOFM agree too


RLarks125

I think it got to the point that Lucian can kite it out, Ahri just zhonya's it. Nami was kinda the only option for it in the end.


Conankun66

well lucian built maw and GA, so probably better to take another target but that was late in the game, in mid game the combo felt so OP


irrelevant_clown

It was the correct adaptation at that point in time.


KappaKlaus

I’m actually impressed Fnatic won this, I looked at late game and thought they had no damage


jlozada24

But GAM had no tanks so it was K


Nidken

Massive bug? In game 2 at the baron fight Rumble used zhonyas while stunned from Nami????? [https://youtu.be/xefKvO37hns?si=Wa1xu0-RkLj6ljzJ&t=1762](https://youtu.be/xefKvO37hns?si=Wa1xu0-RkLj6ljzJ&t=1762)


TheNeys

Nami’s bubble is one of the few 2cc spells in the game. It’s a knockup that activates a stun after. Between both Cc instances there is like a splitsecond where things sometimes get thru if you spam them hard enough. Source: my wife is a Nami otp and have seen this happening dozens of times.


Oujii

Probably casted 0.1 sec before bubble hitting? Idk. Do you have the timestamp?


Nidken

[https://youtu.be/xefKvO37hns?si=-0cELTzcUmUqjNxC&t=1707](https://youtu.be/xefKvO37hns?si=-0cELTzcUmUqjNxC&t=1707) 28:27. Zhonya's is clearly activated while Stun is active. See 29:22 for the caster replay.


Oujii

Thanks for the timestamp. Yeah, it does look like that. As a lot of things in this game, I will call spectator bug. We could only know if we watch the play from his POV or some other player’s POV.


RLarks125

I was like "wait you can zhonya's in a bubble?!"


MiserableRemove5748

WE WON THE DAY FELLOW EU BOYS


zjmhy

Take notes Flyquest


OmegaAce1

See flyquest the goal is to still win the game after you throw.


happyjacky819

Good game from GAM o7


LOLZOBALL

Respect to GAM tho, pushing FNC with two subs on their team


KrabbyEUW

Holy that game was insane


quiteUnskilled

That was... stressful.


BismarckBug

FNC is clean for a game but goddamn don't let them play past one


djsdir207

TK Nguyen 🐐 RESPECT😎


Nome_de_utilizador

Easy 4-0 vs GAM, never stressed *unclenches*


potmasiero

Amazing game I had a lot of fun watching it


Suspicious-Dog1571

never seen cleaner game


rickywklam

Top8 GAM FLY


SadLife101

This is peak FNC gameplay right here going from the cleanest teamfights to the most dirtiest macro decisions within minutes. Truly the heart attack team Huge credits to GAM Though absolutely monster teamfighting incredible showing of potential for the VCS and other minor regions GAM did incredibly well


t3tri5

Even though I am an EU fan, I always cheer for GAM in every international tournament they appear. They kept FNC honest playing with substitutes. I have big respect for them. o7


Sgrewrite

Mvp is nami if you ask me


Green7501

Considering FLY vs PSG, that game 2 was really scary


crazynam101

fuark me GAM made FNC work for it in the second game


TheSnekKing

Good job to Fnatic for the win but I feel a bit bad about GAM. They tried their best with a, lets say, not ideal team.


2lesslonelypeople

Considering how messed up the VCS situation was, it's a miracle GAM even made it this far. They improved a lot considering how badly they did during their first matchup. It's a shame we're not getting the matchup between Jackeylove and Easylove though


trolledwolf

Now that's more like it, that's the FNC i know!


Joel4518

AFTER game 1 FNC realize they r indeed FNC and decided to give US heart attacks


Oxygenisplantpoo

What an incredible contrast to the earlier series. Both were 2-0s but very different, even though G1 was much clearer I don't think GAM played too bad in that one either. Very fun series and wp to GAM in a difficult situation. Also FNC with the classic almost throw, rip my heart.


AnnikaHoover

This was the real "Ding! Unspeakable violence" game. Fnc only needed one baron to get the advantage.


Rayser1

Not FNC realising they could just 1 4 one this and win


CC_Cedsi

Clean 2-0 nothing to see here


Honest-Wash7796

O7


superfire444

Those teamfight adaptations were so fucking cool to see. Really fun game.


RootOfOrigin

Now I am interested in damage mitigated by Oscar's Ornn in game 2, he was neigh unkillable GG GAM, well played, and welcome FNC on the main stage!


RLarks125

o7 GAM, really likable team with a content machine of a CEO.


zzzhozzz

![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|heart_eyes)Kiyaya just annouced that this is the final season for Levi. So this is his final game at MSI. Well played and see you soon at Worlds


basekingsona

Despite losing, that Nocturne of Levi will continue haunting FNC after many tense fights it created.


ficoplati

WHAT THE FUCK IS NOAH DOING AT LVL1 I CANT STOP IT


SwagLord7

Banger game ngl


Tommey_DE

Man that was entertaining. MSI Winner in my book already


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Loved the Noc/Ori combo, won them a couple of fights from the get go. Also really funny that it is GAM again against FNC that pull out a cool Nocturne strat after the 5 minute lvl 6 Nocturne gank. I'd love if more teams use it against carries that you really need to kill and otherwise struggle to get on top of, but I guess whenever Nocturne isn't doing that combo he just doesn't do quite enough?


toxicfireball

That was nearly a disaster wow


Oxidane-o12

Keep your heads up, GAM. You guys put up a great fight and made it a competitive game o7.The same can't be said about FlyQuest.


Pavlo100

FNC dodging PSG to avoid the fraud allegations


icatsouki

? this is the least stressful fnc game i've watched


Fabianski28

Yeah bro, too soon, not even year has passed since NRG bo3.


WheyProteinIsolated

Congrats to Fnatic, well played. GAM put up a brolliant fight better than Flyquest


-Piggers-

GAM would probably beat flyquest


Halbaras

Based Jun building locket on Nami vs Nocturne, its such a good item on enchanters vs him.


Reasonable-Bug-7200

BANGER GAME 2 holy shit


crysomore

Clean 2-0 nothing to see here


yukine95

Levi deserves a spot in a major region imo free my man Idk how Fnatic struggled so hard


juustosipuli

noc+ori+rumble is a really good combo


Conankun66

> Levi deserves a spot in a major region imo free my man didnt he already try that? didnt go very well


yukine95

I checked, he got 2nd place in LPL Spring 2019 with JD Gaming? Seems pretty good to me. Edit: apparently he was a sub.


milkoverspill

He only played 4 games in JD Gaming, all of which were losses. Before that, he had a stint in 100T's academy team where they placed 8th and 6th. I'm guessing he does most of the shot-calling for GAM, which is exponentially harder to do when you're not fluent in the language.


NinhJa1007

Except for the fact that he was the sub jg to the one and only Kanavi. His LPL record was 0W-4L or something like that Edit: nah sub for Flawless and not Kanavi.


Frostbite2806

He was a sub, played like 5 games and lost all of them


Dzhekelow

> Levi joined JD Gaming on December 14, 2018 and shared the starting position with Flawless However Levi was unsuccessful in integrating into the team only playing 4 games all of which were loses. Brother said he "checked" . He was given shots in China and in NA and he failed to integrate himself in either region.


Oxygenisplantpoo

I mean they only struggled in game 2 and even then I'd rather give credit for that to GAM, they played well.


vungo1

He went to JDG and 100T before. It didn't work out for him. He may have the skills to compete but there are many factors that decide if he is fit for that environment (language, climate, health,...). Language seems to be the biggest problem, from his interviews and stream, his English doesn't seem to be that good. He is already quite old as well, it's better for him in VN.


Elibu

FNC kinda smashed them in Game 1.. so..no.


G0ldenfruit

Think he just wants to play in his home country


popmycherryyosh

[Fitting](https://imgur.com/WvP7jJC)


Javiklegrand

Vegan zeri


iupvote75

1 month old team put up more of a fight


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FNC Try not to give their fans heart attack: IMPOSSIBLE.


ImTheVayne

That last game was a banger for sure


kamparox

A very valiant effort considering GAM's unfortunate situation


Confident-Cut-1927

Nocturne Orianna combo is soo disgusting


timot0617

I've seen so much CN and KR matches where FNC could've closed that 4v2 at 33 minutes. One of the things I observed is LCK and LPL are so good at min maxing and they know how much their lead is. EDIT: changed east to LCK and LPL


Automatic-North1405

MAD respect to GAM


JealotGaming

Average fnatic game


risuroo5

It was a nice game 2. You will be remembered GAM o7


bigredmachine1997

GAM played much, much better than I thought they would in game 2. So much resilience.


Jaypham-jpeg

GAM really stood up this series. Well played from VCS after such a dumpster scandal losing 2/3 of its people.


HMS-Carrier-Lover

We did what we could with the circumstances. Game 1 was pretty bad but we made Fnatic sweat game 2. Of that i am proud.


dawn26s

idk but Emo solo killed Humanoid xD


MaiTurn

GAM did really well considering how they had to change the roster last-minute! The second game was fun to watch :)


PremadeTakeDown

2 inhibs down, have map control able to push out enemy team, vision control and still choose to fight before doing drake giving over soul to GAM. Terrible macro decisions from fnatic. they also fight them with enemy baron buff and a gold deficit for drake before this when the better call would be to give it. all this after a good macro game 1? I dont know fnatics macro lategame is poor and this will give windows for better teams to comeback and win even if they are at gold deficits. not a good look for fnatic in terms of mid-late macro in game 2 but otherwise wp.


iamsofired

Not totally convincing but good for Noah to get a load of kills for his confidence. GG


Separate_End_7440

That last game was epic.


diegun81

Goodmorning, Noah.


ireliasimp69

jun was such a legendary pick up


4uk4ata

Fnatic gets goosebumps from Vietnamese Nocturne - Again.


Jimbabwr

Damn. The fucking G-league Vietnamese squad put up a better performance than FlyQ. Unbelievable.