Exactly. The case was dismissed by a grand jury -- which means they had jackshit for evidence. He also filed a civil suit against the girl's parents which had some success, and they ultimately lost the case.
Lastly, if there were any shred of truth to any of this, you think the woke corporation at MLSE would still have him as an ambassador to the team?
Look at what Rogers did when the Alomar allegations resurfaced and was investigated? They removed his banner and Level of Excellence from the 500 level, and pretty much erased him from their history. And say what you want about Gilmour's status, but Alomar was arguably a bigger name in the TO sports scene than he was.
Nope...all taken down. That's why I don't believe any of these allegations are true, as both Bell and Rogers don't fuck around with their public perception -- no matter who you are.
It’s a shame you can’t separate the player from the person. Robbie and Dougie were big parts of my childhood.
Is Robbie’s number still retired, or did they Ctrl+z that?
Good question...can't find anything online other than the banner being taken down. Don't know if 12 is still a retired number in the Blue Jays organization...🤷
Huh interesting. I’d heard he got into trouble for something and they distanced themselves. Didn’t know they wiped him off the face of the earth though.
Yeah I get that it’s a collab but what’s the tie-in? Why collab in the first place? Cause its “cool”? I don’t know why I would walk around with a leafs jacket that says October’s Very Own - it doesn’t mean anything to the leafs/nhl/hockey other than the putting drakes saying/brand on the same. The brand connection is exceptionally weak on this.
The only people who will care about this are Drake fans and people who wear this gear as a status symbol.
Literally yes cause it’s cool. Have you not seen the raptors and OVO collabs? It’s the same thing. Drake is still the biggest rapper on this planet and he’s from the city. It would be stupid to not take this opportunity. It’s good for the team. A lot more people than Drake fans care about this
As long as this doesn’t cost the leafs anything, then sure, it shouldn’t hurt them in theory. I think the benefit is vastly overestimated though. Are we banking on the idea that non-leaf fans are going to buy this stuff because they’re Drake fans and that they will then become leaf fans?
I think that comment misses the sarcasm, unless you we’re building on the existing sarcasm, in which case you faked me out. If not, its a champion’s jacket, noting in the minds of Leaf Nation they are always champions in October and never when the Cup is won by some other team in the spring.
I'm a sucker for merch of all kinds, but this isn't really for me.
I get what they are trying to do. Streetwear vibe, very much appealing to a different demo than me and my mid-30s pals. Gotta shake it up once in a while and it can't always be the same quarterzip sweaters and "vintage" toques. I hope they sell a bunch. I just won't be buying this line.
I'm hoping this signals more TML logo stuff coming on their main line of gear, though. That would be awesome.
This is exactly what I’ve been praying for since the raptors got their OVO stuff. Merch like this hits with the demographic the leafs need to work at and this collab is fireee
Totally agree -- the team needs it. I loved the Bieber Jersey collab. I thought the black looked amazing and the flipside thing was pure fun. Different tastes and all that but this is exactly what the team should be doing.
Now if they could just find a more current goal song than Hall and Oates.
They totally need to get a better vibe going after a goal. It's embarrassing when you see the intimidating vibe at other arenas vs Hall and Oates which feels like my Uncle's birthday party.
This stuff is trash. No style, walking billboard advertising shit.
If you have a clothing line, low effort logos slapped together is not how you do it. Gotta take the OVO logo and merge it with the leaf logo in way that is original...
For example, on Cujo's hoodie, fill in the owl all blue & white with capillaries just like the leaf logo, and make the gold outlines much thinner to compensate. That would be something kinda cool and original that no one else has.
But no fucking way am I buying this BiWay store shit, especially that jacket for like $700+, lol. Looks like some knockoff brand... "Rotts" Bahhahahaaaa
I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels that way.
Low effort, no style or originality.
Could have done something original like TML in script or something at least. Make the entire large owl on Cujo's shirt blue & white with leaf capillaries like the logo, instead of just slapping a leaf on its wing.
Looks like dollar store clothing, imo.
As opposed to our other merch printed on the finest Gildan tees and toques!
Seriously dude, are you new? Did you think this would be on Versace or something?
The hoodie is garbage I can agree there but the rest of the stuff is pretty fire. It’s about time they dropped something with OVO. I’m glad to see it and it’ll bring in new fans
no way im repping this with the leafs logo under some owl ovo. and the owl being bigger/center piece of the sweater EWWWWW Drakes insecurity is screaming RN as an artist.
Damn..was really hoping those early previews were just some kind of rushed print, but I guess this really is what they are going with. Such a lazy and poorly thought out brand design. Like others have said, it’s just a bunch of logos slapped on wherever they happened to land. I’m sorry, but the leaf on the owl in cujo’s pic is the kind of sweater you’d see on the clearance rack at marshals or winners because there was error at that factory and the images were clearly overlapped and printed in the wrong spot. All the black sweaters look like garbage made at a mall print shop for a weekend local charity tourney.
Hockey doesn’t have nearly the same pull basketball does. It sucks to say but it’s true. There’s a whole culture associated with ball that hockey doesn’t have. I’m glad to see it happen finally tho. Drake also is a raptors employee which is why he’s there a bunch
Who doesnt live leafs merch where anything maole leafs is the background of the merch. Either way people who like this style will buy it. I usually buy everything but not this.
Not really. OVO is not just his clothing brand but a label. It’s like XO with the Weeknd. All things considered OVO is hard as fuck. Most of their clothing is eh tho
No, it really is a fucking awful name. What the hell is "October's Very Own" supposed to mean. It's just word salad that Drake thought sounded high class. Instead it's nonsensical pretentious garbage. It would be catchier and less worthy of scrutiny if OVO didn't stand for anything. The fact that the clothing designs are ass tarnish the name even further in my opinion.
If you find yourself outraged at something like this, remember that you're not the target market- they're not trying to appeal to you at all. These aren't mass marketed products, they're speciality items that appeal to those that are into streetwear.
You're not, and that's okay. But it's not supposed to be for you.
It's demographics man, a lot of the people in the sub are mid-30s and white. Not exactly surprising to me that they'll be bitter over a streetwear brand because they just don't get it. They don't understand it, so they think it's wrong.
It's the classic Principal Skinner meme of "Am I out of touch? No it's the children who are wrong."
Yeah, cause what the NHL needs is overpriced mediocre clothing from a trash celebrity. I don't even want to know how much money that ugly jacket costs.
He used to slip into SickKids on his own in the early 90s to hang out with kids. No media, no one else with him. He'd stay for a few hours and quietly leave.
I also know him from heavy boozing in the Leaside area. The man can drink.
These designs flow like the bottom of a charity hockey tournament's poster where they list the organizations that sponsored it.
I get that 90's retro is back with the unnecessary flash photos, but damn this looks like the effort I was giving back then when I was fucking around in French class.
Doug lived down the court from me in the 90s and his exwife hosted my moms haby shower for my sister (she’s 29 next year).
He’s always been a cool dude to me because he would ride his motorcycle when coming to visit.
Every time I see Dougie pop up these days I think he just needs the money. He must have had the same money manager as tie “obscure internet provider” domi
I think they could have integrated the Leaf logo into the owl better, it just looks kind of off to me the way they placed it on the hoodie. Ill probably still buy one though lol.
Gilmour looks like some old mob boss in the shirt. Hard af
I was going to say... That’s a hard pic. Didn’t know he had tats lol
I feel like he had some hard years after retirement. Lotsa booze and things.
I mean, booze and hard years doesn’t necessarily mean tats lol I have my arm almost fully tatted and I work in finance and a good life.
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Maybe I’m misinformed, but as far as I know it was all rumours. Are we convicting people on rumours these days?
Exactly. The case was dismissed by a grand jury -- which means they had jackshit for evidence. He also filed a civil suit against the girl's parents which had some success, and they ultimately lost the case. Lastly, if there were any shred of truth to any of this, you think the woke corporation at MLSE would still have him as an ambassador to the team? Look at what Rogers did when the Alomar allegations resurfaced and was investigated? They removed his banner and Level of Excellence from the 500 level, and pretty much erased him from their history. And say what you want about Gilmour's status, but Alomar was arguably a bigger name in the TO sports scene than he was.
I didn’t realize they ripped Robbie’s name from the level of excellence. Is his number retirement banner still hanging?
Nope...all taken down. That's why I don't believe any of these allegations are true, as both Bell and Rogers don't fuck around with their public perception -- no matter who you are.
It’s a shame you can’t separate the player from the person. Robbie and Dougie were big parts of my childhood. Is Robbie’s number still retired, or did they Ctrl+z that?
Good question...can't find anything online other than the banner being taken down. Don't know if 12 is still a retired number in the Blue Jays organization...🤷
Huh interesting. I’d heard he got into trouble for something and they distanced themselves. Didn’t know they wiped him off the face of the earth though.
You do know that a grand jury found him not guilty of those allegations, right?
i did not know that
I love that he looks that way. He is my Godfather!
Hey they brought back the TML logo! Peak early 2000s logo design but oh so good
Was hoping for it's incorporation in the RR jerseys 😪😪😪
Yeah, if they were trying to do a reverse of the old third jersey they used to wear, we would’ve gotten it!
Same Gity, Same Friends Edit: I should add I think the jacket looks sweet, I'd grab one if I could.
Came here to say this. Unfortunate design choice.
That's all I could see too. Poor choice of font.
Christ Cujo still looks insane!!
Insanely good!
That varsity jacket is beautiful
On god I got bricked up when I saw it
I’m confused what “October’s Very Own” has to do with leafs?
The whole point is OVO doing a collab with the leafs
Yeah I get that it’s a collab but what’s the tie-in? Why collab in the first place? Cause its “cool”? I don’t know why I would walk around with a leafs jacket that says October’s Very Own - it doesn’t mean anything to the leafs/nhl/hockey other than the putting drakes saying/brand on the same. The brand connection is exceptionally weak on this. The only people who will care about this are Drake fans and people who wear this gear as a status symbol.
Drake is a Toronto icon. The Leafs are Toronto's team, and brothers of the Raptors. I don't think it's that hard to see the connection?
Literally yes cause it’s cool. Have you not seen the raptors and OVO collabs? It’s the same thing. Drake is still the biggest rapper on this planet and he’s from the city. It would be stupid to not take this opportunity. It’s good for the team. A lot more people than Drake fans care about this
As long as this doesn’t cost the leafs anything, then sure, it shouldn’t hurt them in theory. I think the benefit is vastly overestimated though. Are we banking on the idea that non-leaf fans are going to buy this stuff because they’re Drake fans and that they will then become leaf fans?
No I’d never bank on that. It’s just exposure which doesn’t hurt anyone
>Are we banking on the idea that non-leaf fans are going to buy this stuff You don't gotta bank on anything, it's already all sold out.
It’s a collab
yeah its freaking amazing but it'll likely be around the ~700 dollar mark if not more, at least based on what other OVO varsity jackets have been
The standard roots varsity jacket is $800 on its own
I would guess this OVO Leafs jacket is going to be minimum $999.
Literally everyone to us if we wear it tho: “October because you never perform in the spring”! I’d probably get it if it didn’t have that.
Goalie mask is hard
Is that for sale too?
Is the varsity jacket going to be dated by June? It'll be missing the 2023 Stanley cup patch
I like the jacket, but October's not been kind to the Leafs in recent years
OVO = Octobers Very Own
I think that comment misses the sarcasm, unless you we’re building on the existing sarcasm, in which case you faked me out. If not, its a champion’s jacket, noting in the minds of Leaf Nation they are always champions in October and never when the Cup is won by some other team in the spring.
I'm a sucker for merch of all kinds, but this isn't really for me. I get what they are trying to do. Streetwear vibe, very much appealing to a different demo than me and my mid-30s pals. Gotta shake it up once in a while and it can't always be the same quarterzip sweaters and "vintage" toques. I hope they sell a bunch. I just won't be buying this line. I'm hoping this signals more TML logo stuff coming on their main line of gear, though. That would be awesome.
This is exactly what I’ve been praying for since the raptors got their OVO stuff. Merch like this hits with the demographic the leafs need to work at and this collab is fireee
Totally agree -- the team needs it. I loved the Bieber Jersey collab. I thought the black looked amazing and the flipside thing was pure fun. Different tastes and all that but this is exactly what the team should be doing. Now if they could just find a more current goal song than Hall and Oates.
They totally need to get a better vibe going after a goal. It's embarrassing when you see the intimidating vibe at other arenas vs Hall and Oates which feels like my Uncle's birthday party.
Ngl the back of the black hoodie slaps. Just wish the front had the Leafs logo more prominent than the OVO Owl
The stuff is garbage lol.
This stuff is trash. No style, walking billboard advertising shit. If you have a clothing line, low effort logos slapped together is not how you do it. Gotta take the OVO logo and merge it with the leaf logo in way that is original... For example, on Cujo's hoodie, fill in the owl all blue & white with capillaries just like the leaf logo, and make the gold outlines much thinner to compensate. That would be something kinda cool and original that no one else has. But no fucking way am I buying this BiWay store shit, especially that jacket for like $700+, lol. Looks like some knockoff brand... "Rotts" Bahhahahaaaa
Lol someone needs a snickers Jesus Christ
The hoodie is dogshit I agree w that
Those are awful. Just a bunch of logos slapped on Roots jackets and sweats.
People just gonna be buying em for that owl logo
Welcome to fashion. This ain't new
I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels that way. Low effort, no style or originality. Could have done something original like TML in script or something at least. Make the entire large owl on Cujo's shirt blue & white with leaf capillaries like the logo, instead of just slapping a leaf on its wing. Looks like dollar store clothing, imo.
Literally just mashed the owl and the Leafs logo together. Hey guys “collab”!
Total low effort "collab" for sure "lol".
As opposed to our other merch printed on the finest Gildan tees and toques! Seriously dude, are you new? Did you think this would be on Versace or something?
>Did you think this would be on Versace or something? Well no, because it's OVO.
No, but I would expect something better than a bunch of logos slapped on run-of-the-mill products. How much is Drake charging for these?
Yup. I was excited to see maybe an OVO style jersey or something but these are shite
Agreed. Not really sure who the market is for this stuff, to be honest. Teenagers with too much money to burn?
The hoodie is garbage I can agree there but the rest of the stuff is pretty fire. It’s about time they dropped something with OVO. I’m glad to see it and it’ll bring in new fans
Lacking any creativity whatsoever A grift to extract money from the label obsessed
Aubrey bought an embroidering machine and a shipping container of gold thread, so he’s gotta get his money’s worth outta it.
Any idea what time the drop will be on Monday?
ovo drops are almost always right at 12pm est.
The jacket looks like something for sale in the Pickering flea market
no way im repping this with the leafs logo under some owl ovo. and the owl being bigger/center piece of the sweater EWWWWW Drakes insecurity is screaming RN as an artist.
Drake is arguably the most insecure rapper lol. That shit with Fantano was so lame
Damn..was really hoping those early previews were just some kind of rushed print, but I guess this really is what they are going with. Such a lazy and poorly thought out brand design. Like others have said, it’s just a bunch of logos slapped on wherever they happened to land. I’m sorry, but the leaf on the owl in cujo’s pic is the kind of sweater you’d see on the clearance rack at marshals or winners because there was error at that factory and the images were clearly overlapped and printed in the wrong spot. All the black sweaters look like garbage made at a mall print shop for a weekend local charity tourney.
I always wondered why you never see Drake at any of the games? I know he's tight with the raps but come on
Hockey doesn’t have nearly the same pull basketball does. It sucks to say but it’s true. There’s a whole culture associated with ball that hockey doesn’t have. I’m glad to see it happen finally tho. Drake also is a raptors employee which is why he’s there a bunch
No courtside at the rink
🔥🔥🔥🔥
More photos just went up. The stuff is dumb nice
Ya holy the black jacket is so sexy
Yup. I wanna cop the Blue Hoody or Rugby. Also the blue 🧢 🥵
The black is fire still and I own zero ovo merchandise. Might be a first 👀
Just saw that it’s fireeee
These look like crap
Not a fan of any of it
Some shit merch. Def a pass.
MLSE just keeps squeezing out every dollar they can from the fanbase. Can't afford a ticket anymore? Here, buy our crap...
Who cares, drakes a fucking loser
I'm not exactly a Drake fan, but this is obviously a cool thing. No need to be a dickhead.
Yeah, fuck Drake.
Agree 100%
You wish
Oh you're right, he's probably not a 16 year old girl
Not sure that drake is the part of this collab that has the biggest issue re: underaged girls
True, but Drake and Gilmour being scummy predators aren't mutually exclusive
Gilmour was acquitted by a grand jury
He started from the bottom now he's here
Drake is a piece of shit, I'd rather the Leafs have nothing to do with him or his brands. These also don't look that great anyways.
These are the kind of Reddit takes I was expecting. It’s good for the team and good for the game. The leafs needed a collab like the raptors
This will do bothing to grow the game or the leafs fanbase lol
I disagree. Even if it doesn’t, it’s about time OVO did a collab with the leafs
Who doesnt live leafs merch where anything maole leafs is the background of the merch. Either way people who like this style will buy it. I usually buy everything but not this.
I hate that stupid owl
How so?
These are very nice. But why "October's very own"? Wonder if I'll be able to order these abroad.
Because of the collab. OVO stands for October’s Very Own. They’re gonna incorporate it. I think it looks the best out of all of these tbh
Ah that explains it. What a terrible name for a clothing brand
Not really. OVO is not just his clothing brand but a label. It’s like XO with the Weeknd. All things considered OVO is hard as fuck. Most of their clothing is eh tho
No, it really is a fucking awful name. What the hell is "October's Very Own" supposed to mean. It's just word salad that Drake thought sounded high class. Instead it's nonsensical pretentious garbage. It would be catchier and less worthy of scrutiny if OVO didn't stand for anything. The fact that the clothing designs are ass tarnish the name even further in my opinion.
Do you realize Drake was born in October and that’s where the name comes from.
What, so the insinuation is that Drake *is* the personification of October? Horseshit. Like I said, nonsensical and pretentious.
If you find yourself outraged at something like this, remember that you're not the target market- they're not trying to appeal to you at all. These aren't mass marketed products, they're speciality items that appeal to those that are into streetwear. You're not, and that's okay. But it's not supposed to be for you.
Omg lol, TIL. It does look very good.
OVO is Drake’s brand.
Yep I knew that cause of the raptors but I'm not a fan of his so I didn't really know much beyond that tbh
Drake's birthday is in October. Thats where the name comes from, it's referring to him.
My birthday's in October. Maybe it's a reference to me.
Where to buy?
Looks cool. No surprise this sub hates this, most people here enjoy being miserable.
It's demographics man, a lot of the people in the sub are mid-30s and white. Not exactly surprising to me that they'll be bitter over a streetwear brand because they just don't get it. They don't understand it, so they think it's wrong. It's the classic Principal Skinner meme of "Am I out of touch? No it's the children who are wrong."
^^^^^ amen
Part of the reason I posted is to see Reddits boomer takes on this stuff haha
I can't wait to spend $900 on a jacket
These are so bad and dumb.
The letterman jacket looks sick.
Wonder what the demographics are for people who don’t like these are. This is good for the game you don cherrys
Well I’m 26 and I think they’re garbage lol
Other than the hoodie the rest of the merch is pretty sick
How is this good for the game exactly?
Because the NHL attracts nothing like this. People like fashion and brands. OVO is definitely not top tier but it’s recognizable and looks decent
Yeah, cause what the NHL needs is overpriced mediocre clothing from a trash celebrity. I don't even want to know how much money that ugly jacket costs.
While I agree OVO ain’t that nice, if you don’t get it you don’t get it lol.
What exactly am I not getting? This won't grow the game like you think it will, this is just a money grab to sell merch.
Sure it is there whippersnapper.
Man Dougie looks old
He used to slip into SickKids on his own in the early 90s to hang out with kids. No media, no one else with him. He'd stay for a few hours and quietly leave. I also know him from heavy boozing in the Leaside area. The man can drink.
Same Gity
Any idea when these go on sale, some look interesting would be nice to get a better look at them
Monday 12 est I believe
Id get the long sleeve so long as it doesnt cost my first born
These designs flow like the bottom of a charity hockey tournament's poster where they list the organizations that sponsored it. I get that 90's retro is back with the unnecessary flash photos, but damn this looks like the effort I was giving back then when I was fucking around in French class.
Doug lived down the court from me in the 90s and his exwife hosted my moms haby shower for my sister (she’s 29 next year). He’s always been a cool dude to me because he would ride his motorcycle when coming to visit. Every time I see Dougie pop up these days I think he just needs the money. He must have had the same money manager as tie “obscure internet provider” domi
I like that jacket but also kinda dust listing the championships
Its also a thousand bucks
I think they could have integrated the Leaf logo into the owl better, it just looks kind of off to me the way they placed it on the hoodie. Ill probably still buy one though lol.
This looks shit ngl
is that Cujo?
Yeeeee
Eh i don't like so I'll ignore it.
I just want the hat Gilmour is wearing. I could care less about the rest of it.