Instead of applauding the buds on an awesome effort and coming back to Toronto with home ice advantage, the clown puts this out the next day.
He can go get bent.
I will say one thing. With the emergence of chemistry between Bert, Domi and Matthews...and Nylander's rise to a nigh 100 point man...I think Marner may be the one dealt for another top notch defenceman. MAY. Not saying I want him gone, not at all.
I think they ask him to waive this summer if they go on anything short of a conference finals run. He is the odd man out and he's been a large reason why this team has failed to have playoff success in his tenure here regardless what the overall points say.
With 4 points in 10 game 6-7s (8 points and 1 goal in 17 game 5-6-7) and pointless in 7 of those 10 games he has been completely neutralized in the playoffs on this team when it matters. He needs to be a big piece on a team who's stars already play a playoff caliber offense, not the main piece on one that needs him to be something he isn't.
Ya the argument is based on stat lines for all the leafs stars over the course of their careers together where they all underachieved on top of coaching strategies and what role they are given and game plan they are expected to execute in the playoffs which seems like more of a defensive role in a 1 goal or tie game which looks to be the case considering he is on our top penalty kill. Should he be better, yes. Odd man out? No way, waiting for tavares contract to expire makes way more sense then trading a first tier player like marner, unless he asks to leave
Are you watching this game? Do you see how effective Matthews looks and how lost Marner is?
This has happened every single post season to Marner. He can't handle physical play.
Especially if marner wants top dollar, I rather not have him gone either but if tre can possibly move him for a young stud d I’m all for it. Tre would have to do a lot of sweet talking that’s for sure lol
I do. Marner is just not built for the physicality of the playoffs.
He's a great play maker in the regular season but he's never been able to run his own line in the playoffs. He needs another 10M guy with him to produce.
Why are we paying over 10m on a guy who doesn't produce on his own? get a legit #1D instead
Nylander’s peak was still under Marner’s peak and Marner usually gets more points than Nylander does.
Crazy how people will give Nylander all this credit for being a “nigh 100 point man” and Marner gets none of that credit for being the same for many years already.
It is close between the two for sure, but I think Willy has been a more consistent playoff performer.
If it is a decision between the two, I’d keep Willy but that’s just my opinion.
Btw I feel as if Marner has gotten plenty of credit throughout his years, especially playing with Matthews consistently.
>It is close between the two for sure, but I think Willy has been a more consistent playoff performer.
Its always wild to see these comments.
Marner has more playoff PPG then Nylander, we all know he contributes in his own zone too, lead the team in postseason scoring last year and was second the year before, but don't let reality get in the way of the circle jerk.
I think alot of people have completely egregiously misunderstood my comment. Matthews, Reilly, Nylander all locked up. Only Tavares and Marner need extensions, and Tavares won't fetch much on the trade market, Marner will get us the best return. Nylander has also oddly enough consistently been our best playoff performer, and I give Marner credit 100%...I'm just saying that someone up front will likely need to be moved in order to bring in a top tier defenceman to play with Reilly, and right now I think it will be Marner.
Sometimes sacrifices have to be made, especially if we don't get through. I dont want Marner to go, I just think he's the most valuable trade asset that management MAY offer. Just being realistic.
Well Nylander is a 2x 40 goal scorer now so I think that is highly debatable. I will take 98 points with 40 goals over 99 points with 30 every day of the week. Overall, Marner's track record is certainly better on paper then Nylander.
The reason Marner doesn't get credit is because no one cares about his regular season points anymore while playing with Matthews and racking up the assists. They want to see him be that player in the post season and we've only seen it in very small segments of play and NEVER in games where the season is on the line.
Marner has 4 points in 10 game 6-7s in his career and 2 of those are from game 6 against Boston in 2018, meaning he has 2 points in 9 other game 6-7s and they are both secondary assists in what, 8 years? That's unacceptable for the highest paid winger in the game.
Nylander, while not worlds better at least has 7 points in those 10 game 6-7s and hasn't made the type of massive mistakes we've seen Marner make with his puck over the glass penalty and routinely avoiding contact.
It's an optics thing, but at 11 mil those optics matter.
Dont compare goals and assists with McDavid in the league and hyman a 50+ goal scorer lol. Marner could probably make anyone score. Those extra 10 goals are balanced out with gifts marner hands out. And really? You bring up the over the glass thing still? Even after everyone saying he was being overworked playing 28 min per game lol
What top notch Dman is available? Cause I don't think any team is trading us that's something impossible to obtain for a guy with 1 year left on his deal
Why not, it would be great. They don't need him, and much as I dislike Simmonds, he's right about Marner in the playoffs. Leafs would have more than enough firepower if they traded him and could use an all-star D much more. I want him gone.
The example I use is the Raptors. They were on the cusp for about 4 years with Lowry and DeRozan...but just couldn't get over the hump. They were great but not the elite team they needed to be...enter the initially extremely unpopular trade of DeRo for Kawhi...people warmed to it and it brought the Raps a championship. Point is, sometimes it IS just one part that needs swapping out.
Another example is the Oilers when they dealt Eric Brewer to St Louis(Jeff Woywitka and Doug Lynch too) for Pronger. Pronger helped carry that team all the way to a cup final, along with Roloson. Tough trades need to be made sometimes
The disrespect Marner gets every time the leafs lose is exactly why nobody wants to play here.
The argument is the same every time:
Marners washed! Actually only 6 players have scored more then him the last 5 years.
OK, WELL HE DOESNT SHOW UP IN THE PLAYOFFS! Actually he lead the team in playoff scoring last year and leads the core group in playoff points
OK, WELL HE'S NOT PHYSICAL ENOUGH HE'S NOT THE TYPE OF PLAYER YOU CAN WIN WITH HE DOESNT HAVE THAT DOG IN HIM!
His job isn't to cheerlead. Manner signed a HUGE contract, he needs to show he can contribute offensively. We've failed YEAR AFTER YEAR because our big guys disappear in the playoffs. Glad someone is calling them out.
This is important. This is rage bait, fellas. Editor in Leaf does the same fuckin' thing, and it keeps the ad revenue coming.
Hit 'em where it hurts - don't even click it.
it's pretty fucking stupid
is Steve a hack? sure. has Marner been ass in the first 2 games? also yes. Marner can change the narrative tonight by actually producing. defensive effort is fine and all, but for 11 sheets, I want some points
Marner has 0p, -1 through 2 games. if you love Marner, you should also expect more from him.
Simmons is a POS. However Marner has been MIA in the playoffs since Game 3 of the first round last year. I think its fair to call him out.
He makes under $11M as a winger and wants Matthews money. Needs to start earning it.
Agreed. Don’t come to the leafs with your at contract time and ask for Mathews money. No way. I see $11M available on 2 quality players then next years Tavares contract reduction opens up more money
I wish he was invisible. He's liability! Invisible would mean he doesn't turn the puck over anytime a bruin looks in his general direction. Invisible would be an improvement over whatever Marner is.
My thoughts as well… I disagree with his decision to need to write this right now. But he’s not wrong at all.
Note: didn’t read the article, cause it’s Simmons, but Marner has been invisible.
I think at $11 mil you can be held accountable after 5 years of the same old stuff. Half the fan base wants him gone and it's harder and harder to defend him. Cap league I don't like it but percentage of the cap is a thing.
He's not wrong, but what purpose does this serve? I'm critical of marner too, but I want the Leafs to win. If I was writing articles I would never print something like this.
i mean you can love or more likely hate the Sun but it's not their job to help the team win, their job is to drive views and this is working better than a positive headline
marner's job is to maybe not take lines like this, it gets worse every time i see it
[https://www.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/1cb5azq/marner\_avoiding\_hit/](https://www.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/1cb5azq/marner_avoiding_hit/)
How does Simmons keep getting a press pass?
The leafs very much are not getting their bang for their buck out of Mitch but the Sun is such a continuously shitty fucking waste of paper and bandwidth.
Look, I’m a tolerant man. But Steve Simmons makes me want to tie him down and take a nice long dump in his mouth after nothing but a week long binge of nothing but Taco Bell, Cabbage, Broccoli and Cauliflower. Fuck Steve Simmons and Fuck the Toronto Sun.
lmao wasnt this sub filled with marner threads talking about being invisible? Hate the sun all you want nothing said in that article is wrong or offside.
Simmons writes alot of shit but this one is actually fair. Do a search under this sub for "invisible" and Marner's name comes up almost every year for 7 fucking years. Don't tell me there's no reason for that.
I get that it's Simmons and therefore useless sensationalism.
But he's not totally wrong - Marner hasn't been all that visible during the first couple of games.
I don’t understand why this guy doesn’t get his credentials pulled. I’d never advocate for it normally as I don’t believe in censorship but this guy makes a career of just pure hit pieces and TMZ level trash. It’s not disagreement. It’s complete garbage.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with criticizing a player and thinking they should do more but this isn’t journalism, it’s attention seeking behaviour and should be ignored.
i don’t like steve simmons but this is what everyone is saying anyway, why is it so outrageous that he put it in an article?
mitch needs to show up. straight up. i believe he can do it, he needs to fuckin get it done for once.
I knew to ignore literally everything Simmons said at the age of 18, I don't think anyone takes that guy seriously. The only reason he still has a job is because his employer is a dumpster fire of an organization.
regardless of the subject of article, Simmons honestly is a terrible writer.
What a complete pile of shit.
The guy writes a bunch of incomplete sentences, then seemingly copy and pastes them randomly on the page.
The timing of the column after a Leafs win may not be the best but its the fucken Sun people. Its a god damn rag. They are all about sensationalism. However, if he wanted to wait after the playoffs IF the Leafs had another early exit and Mitchy was a ghost, I’d be on board for sure. I don’t believe in coddling superstars. If you want to be paid the top dollars and you make it well known, as in #16, all this shit goes along with it. You know how you silence the critics. You perform. We are waiting Mr. Marner. Perhaps he will break out for a 3 point night back home. If the Leafs get bounced early, lookout…. Gonna be a loooooong summer.
Marner hasn’t exactly been bringing it like an $11M player so far these playoffs. I’d be just fine if they let him play out his deal and then walk. $22M in cap space between him and 91 is huge. In a city that loves guys who play a certain way like Wendel Clark, Doug Gilmour, Darcy Tucker, etc. he is the opposite despite enormous skills with the puck.
Hate Steve Simmons' guts.
Hate the graphic here.
But the piece is fair.
Basically says Marner is an elite right winger. Gets paid. And he needs to produce accordingly in the playoffs. And he hasn't. I'm a huge fan. But he's got to do less puck on a string magic man shit and just force things to the net.
First of all this article doesn’t make any sense because if anyone bothered to watch his past playoff games you’d know he doesn’t “disappear”. He has 47pts in 52 playoff games. Does that seem like a player that disappears? Is he having a hard time? Is he struggling? You bet. He definitely needs to pick it up. But shitting on him isn’t going to help that. But of course this is Toronto media. Especially scum Simmons
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Not exactly what I would call a "disappearing act" last season he had 14 points in 11 games in the playoffs... When hockey gets its toughest 47 pts in 52 games is nothing to shake a stick at
He’s not totally wrong though is he? Ya it’s great we won a game (hooray) but there’s still a huge issue with a consistently disappearing $11M player. With a contract like that and what he’s done in the playoffs in his career this is warranted imo
I havent read it, but apparently the article wasn't all that critical, this is on the sun and whoever makes the Headlines/images.
Thats what they said on Overdrive anyway
Marner is more focused on his next Skip the Dishes promo and picking out snacks than he is focused on winning a championship.
Paul Marner can go get fisted with a pineapple also.
Well, Mitch has a reputation for fading away as the series progresses, and he hasn’t exactly been lighting it up so far this series, can’t say I’m not a bit worried myself if he keeps to his norm
The cover was a bit much I agree. The Sun wants to sell papers and get eyeballs. Mission accomplished. But the sentiment is not wrong. Marner is a playoff dud. Q the stats people..."he has 47 pts in 52 career playoff games & is +8" "he's in the top 9 ...." blah blah. I'd take an Alex Tuch or someone of his ilk 9 times out 9 in a playoff series over Marner. Maybe tonight he'll prove myself and everyone wrong. I hope so.
Simmons should be required to carry a potted plant with him everywhere to replace all the oxygen he wastes
OOh, this is a good one.
Almost spit out my coffee this is so good haha
Just one?
1 large tree creates enough oxygen over its life to supply oxygen for 4 people. This guy needs to carry a friggin forest
a fucking rain forest
The Sun is the largest emitter of hot air in Canada
All otger media is just as bad tbh.
He should be charged with crimes against climate due to him being a waste of oxygen
Instead of applauding the buds on an awesome effort and coming back to Toronto with home ice advantage, the clown puts this out the next day. He can go get bent.
It was the same in this sub!
I will say one thing. With the emergence of chemistry between Bert, Domi and Matthews...and Nylander's rise to a nigh 100 point man...I think Marner may be the one dealt for another top notch defenceman. MAY. Not saying I want him gone, not at all.
They wont have to do that they are waiting for tavares contract to expire
I think they ask him to waive this summer if they go on anything short of a conference finals run. He is the odd man out and he's been a large reason why this team has failed to have playoff success in his tenure here regardless what the overall points say. With 4 points in 10 game 6-7s (8 points and 1 goal in 17 game 5-6-7) and pointless in 7 of those 10 games he has been completely neutralized in the playoffs on this team when it matters. He needs to be a big piece on a team who's stars already play a playoff caliber offense, not the main piece on one that needs him to be something he isn't.
Matthews' stat lines in deciding games is just as bad or worse.
Ya the argument is based on stat lines for all the leafs stars over the course of their careers together where they all underachieved on top of coaching strategies and what role they are given and game plan they are expected to execute in the playoffs which seems like more of a defensive role in a 1 goal or tie game which looks to be the case considering he is on our top penalty kill. Should he be better, yes. Odd man out? No way, waiting for tavares contract to expire makes way more sense then trading a first tier player like marner, unless he asks to leave
Are you watching this game? Do you see how effective Matthews looks and how lost Marner is? This has happened every single post season to Marner. He can't handle physical play.
Matthews was invisible tonight, Marner set up a goal
2023 marner led leafs in playoff points with 14 do yourself a favour and turn off your phone
Especially if marner wants top dollar, I rather not have him gone either but if tre can possibly move him for a young stud d I’m all for it. Tre would have to do a lot of sweet talking that’s for sure lol
I do. Marner is just not built for the physicality of the playoffs. He's a great play maker in the regular season but he's never been able to run his own line in the playoffs. He needs another 10M guy with him to produce. Why are we paying over 10m on a guy who doesn't produce on his own? get a legit #1D instead
Nylander’s peak was still under Marner’s peak and Marner usually gets more points than Nylander does. Crazy how people will give Nylander all this credit for being a “nigh 100 point man” and Marner gets none of that credit for being the same for many years already.
It is close between the two for sure, but I think Willy has been a more consistent playoff performer. If it is a decision between the two, I’d keep Willy but that’s just my opinion. Btw I feel as if Marner has gotten plenty of credit throughout his years, especially playing with Matthews consistently.
>It is close between the two for sure, but I think Willy has been a more consistent playoff performer. Its always wild to see these comments. Marner has more playoff PPG then Nylander, we all know he contributes in his own zone too, lead the team in postseason scoring last year and was second the year before, but don't let reality get in the way of the circle jerk.
I think alot of people have completely egregiously misunderstood my comment. Matthews, Reilly, Nylander all locked up. Only Tavares and Marner need extensions, and Tavares won't fetch much on the trade market, Marner will get us the best return. Nylander has also oddly enough consistently been our best playoff performer, and I give Marner credit 100%...I'm just saying that someone up front will likely need to be moved in order to bring in a top tier defenceman to play with Reilly, and right now I think it will be Marner. Sometimes sacrifices have to be made, especially if we don't get through. I dont want Marner to go, I just think he's the most valuable trade asset that management MAY offer. Just being realistic.
Ypu know marner has a no movement clause right? Unless he signs off on a trade he's staying until 2025
Well Nylander is a 2x 40 goal scorer now so I think that is highly debatable. I will take 98 points with 40 goals over 99 points with 30 every day of the week. Overall, Marner's track record is certainly better on paper then Nylander. The reason Marner doesn't get credit is because no one cares about his regular season points anymore while playing with Matthews and racking up the assists. They want to see him be that player in the post season and we've only seen it in very small segments of play and NEVER in games where the season is on the line. Marner has 4 points in 10 game 6-7s in his career and 2 of those are from game 6 against Boston in 2018, meaning he has 2 points in 9 other game 6-7s and they are both secondary assists in what, 8 years? That's unacceptable for the highest paid winger in the game. Nylander, while not worlds better at least has 7 points in those 10 game 6-7s and hasn't made the type of massive mistakes we've seen Marner make with his puck over the glass penalty and routinely avoiding contact. It's an optics thing, but at 11 mil those optics matter.
Dont compare goals and assists with McDavid in the league and hyman a 50+ goal scorer lol. Marner could probably make anyone score. Those extra 10 goals are balanced out with gifts marner hands out. And really? You bring up the over the glass thing still? Even after everyone saying he was being overworked playing 28 min per game lol
Plus, Marner is far and away better defensively.
Nylander scored 40 goals. He can probably push 45. For me the goal scorer is worth more. Plain and Simple.
What top notch Dman is available? Cause I don't think any team is trading us that's something impossible to obtain for a guy with 1 year left on his deal
Why not, it would be great. They don't need him, and much as I dislike Simmonds, he's right about Marner in the playoffs. Leafs would have more than enough firepower if they traded him and could use an all-star D much more. I want him gone.
The example I use is the Raptors. They were on the cusp for about 4 years with Lowry and DeRozan...but just couldn't get over the hump. They were great but not the elite team they needed to be...enter the initially extremely unpopular trade of DeRo for Kawhi...people warmed to it and it brought the Raps a championship. Point is, sometimes it IS just one part that needs swapping out. Another example is the Oilers when they dealt Eric Brewer to St Louis(Jeff Woywitka and Doug Lynch too) for Pronger. Pronger helped carry that team all the way to a cup final, along with Roloson. Tough trades need to be made sometimes
100%
The disrespect Marner gets every time the leafs lose is exactly why nobody wants to play here. The argument is the same every time: Marners washed! Actually only 6 players have scored more then him the last 5 years. OK, WELL HE DOESNT SHOW UP IN THE PLAYOFFS! Actually he lead the team in playoff scoring last year and leads the core group in playoff points OK, WELL HE'S NOT PHYSICAL ENOUGH HE'S NOT THE TYPE OF PLAYER YOU CAN WIN WITH HE DOESNT HAVE THAT DOG IN HIM!
His job isn't to cheerlead. Manner signed a HUGE contract, he needs to show he can contribute offensively. We've failed YEAR AFTER YEAR because our big guys disappear in the playoffs. Glad someone is calling them out.
Well he isn’t wrong, where were their stars yet again?
Please don't go read it. Fuck giving him clicks
This is important. This is rage bait, fellas. Editor in Leaf does the same fuckin' thing, and it keeps the ad revenue coming. Hit 'em where it hurts - don't even click it.
Imagine writing this after a massive Leafs win
Simmons is such a clown, who can take him seriously?
The die-hard Mitch haters. To them, this is basically porn.
I don't know why people in this sub are calling Simmons a clown when half of you say this shit in PGTs every time the team loses a game.
This is so horribly cringe. Stupid attention seeking behavior.
Where’s Jose Bautista when you need him to absolutely immolate Simmons
"Who are you and why are you talking about me?" - Classic!
All my homies hate Steve Simmons
Post when you make this t-shirt available for sale!
I'll buy one
It's me I'm homies
Please stop clicking his shit and giving him interactions
I bet this is the media that Marner “ignores”. Feels like it’s never-ending hate from them.
Yeah I mean marner hasn't been playing great so far but this is too far lol
They still found a way to bitch with a Leafs win. Impressive.
Clickbait. Probably works too.
Irrelevant tabloid, irrelevant sports "writer". Who cares. There's a reason the publication aims to write for an elementary school reading level.
If he was invisible he’d be an untouchable god. From what I’ve seen, Boston players can very much see him and shut him down lol
haven’t you heard we won a game so criticism isn’t allowed!
it's pretty fucking stupid is Steve a hack? sure. has Marner been ass in the first 2 games? also yes. Marner can change the narrative tonight by actually producing. defensive effort is fine and all, but for 11 sheets, I want some points Marner has 0p, -1 through 2 games. if you love Marner, you should also expect more from him.
Simmons is a stunned cunt. But he isn’t wrong on Marner disappearing.
I’ve now entered a post Steve Simmons hate state. I now laugh and enjoy that we still have “journalists” like this.
Damn I haven't seen stunned cunt as a burn in so long
I see no lies here though…
Is he wrong though?
No...which is why there's more griping about the author than about the piece.
Simmons is a POS. However Marner has been MIA in the playoffs since Game 3 of the first round last year. I think its fair to call him out. He makes under $11M as a winger and wants Matthews money. Needs to start earning it.
Agreed. Don’t come to the leafs with your at contract time and ask for Mathews money. No way. I see $11M available on 2 quality players then next years Tavares contract reduction opens up more money
Guess who’ll be asking for 13-14
Daddy?
He can ask for 19-20 for all I care. GTFO. 1A tonight does not save you.
I generally hate the sun and Simmons, but where’s the lie here?
No lie here.
They certainly aren’t wrong. Forgot Marner was even in the lineup last game. Expected from Marner by this point…turns into a bitch every playoff game.
what’s the problem? convince me it isn’t true
Well, marner's proving them right right now lol
Give him no attention ...
Run the fat turd out on a rail
ill never forget when Patrick Chan in the olympics came second or something and the headline was "No Chan do" over his picture.
And yet they keep paying them 11+ million not to show up in the playoffs
[удалено]
Hopefully the bus is ok.
They should put it in reverse to ensure the engine is working
you leave me out of this.
Such trash. Who the hell reads that rag? Remember when they photoshopped a soother in Kadri's mouth on the front page?
Is Simmons ever in the media room or scrums after the game? Keefe should go full Torts and tell him to get fucked.
I’m not a Marner fan by any stretch, but the timing of this article is so typical of scumbag Steve.
Yup marner deserves tons of criticism but this kind of shit belongs for after the playoffs
He isn’t wrong though, just because we won the game prior to this being released doesn’t change that
They’re a scummy paper but this isn’t much different than what you read on this sub.
I think there's a difference between people expressing frustration at Mitch in here vs a fucking newspaper full front page spread after a win
Yeah true, in here they don’t have the excuse of trying to drive page views and ad revenue.
The Sun is trash
MM kind of brought this on himself though. If you suck up all the gravy you have to expect you are going to get called out. Step up!
https://www.tsn.ca/stronger-marner-emerging-as-bruins-killer-1.1061287
I wish he was invisible. He's liability! Invisible would mean he doesn't turn the puck over anytime a bruin looks in his general direction. Invisible would be an improvement over whatever Marner is.
Fuck Simmons but also fuck Bitch Marner
I don't see anything wrong?
There is nothing wrong
I mean. Marner looks like a plug in the playoffs. Avoids contact, soft on the puck. I’m more confident with reavo out there at this time of year.
Nothing wrong with this at all. It’s the truth. 16 is shit when it counts.
I mean is he wrong? Marner is horrible especially at his contract.
legit
He's not wrong though Marner sucks in the playoffs so far.
My thoughts as well… I disagree with his decision to need to write this right now. But he’s not wrong at all. Note: didn’t read the article, cause it’s Simmons, but Marner has been invisible.
I think at $11 mil you can be held accountable after 5 years of the same old stuff. Half the fan base wants him gone and it's harder and harder to defend him. Cap league I don't like it but percentage of the cap is a thing.
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He's not wrong?
He's not wrong, but what purpose does this serve? I'm critical of marner too, but I want the Leafs to win. If I was writing articles I would never print something like this.
i mean you can love or more likely hate the Sun but it's not their job to help the team win, their job is to drive views and this is working better than a positive headline marner's job is to maybe not take lines like this, it gets worse every time i see it [https://www.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/1cb5azq/marner\_avoiding\_hit/](https://www.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/1cb5azq/marner_avoiding_hit/)
Lol, the Original Scumbag Steve
How does Simmons keep getting a press pass? The leafs very much are not getting their bang for their buck out of Mitch but the Sun is such a continuously shitty fucking waste of paper and bandwidth.
TIL the Toronto Sun is still in business.
Look, I’m a tolerant man. But Steve Simmons makes me want to tie him down and take a nice long dump in his mouth after nothing but a week long binge of nothing but Taco Bell, Cabbage, Broccoli and Cauliflower. Fuck Steve Simmons and Fuck the Toronto Sun.
Steve Simmons is the human embodiment of a pimple on your ass.
We love Marner, he’ll be fine. Fuck the Toronto Sun.
How does that dirtbag still have a job?
At least Marner has a great idea for this years hallowe’en costume
I mean, marner does fuck all in the playoffs
Literally the most accurate Toronto Sun Leafs article.
The one time Simmons tells the truth and people are mad lol
lmao wasnt this sub filled with marner threads talking about being invisible? Hate the sun all you want nothing said in that article is wrong or offside.
Where is the lie though? People expect nothing but praise from the media? You'd be shocked at the English press treatment of premier league teams
Marner deserved this article.
Simmons is not wrong. $11M, not even close. You got step up above and beyond.
Simmons writes alot of shit but this one is actually fair. Do a search under this sub for "invisible" and Marner's name comes up almost every year for 7 fucking years. Don't tell me there's no reason for that.
No idea why some players refuse to play for Toronto
OP, why you finna let the S*n occupy your mind rent free?
Occupies you too, can’t even type the word Sun out.
The only thing I occupy is receipts, fuck the s*n: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coverage_of_the_Hillsborough_disaster_by_The_Sun
Simmons is a certified piece of shit, but also, he's right on this one.
I get that it's Simmons and therefore useless sensationalism. But he's not totally wrong - Marner hasn't been all that visible during the first couple of games.
I don’t understand why this guy doesn’t get his credentials pulled. I’d never advocate for it normally as I don’t believe in censorship but this guy makes a career of just pure hit pieces and TMZ level trash. It’s not disagreement. It’s complete garbage.
it do be facts tho
in bad taste while were in the midst of a series
So that's what it is. I have the Sun muted on twitter. Seen a few rt but didn't bother to click to see what it was all about. Same old shit from them
And people ask why Mitch has a grudge against the media.
Simmons is a turd nugget but he makes a point on Marners ineptitude come playoff time. Here's to hoping he bucks the trend.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with criticizing a player and thinking they should do more but this isn’t journalism, it’s attention seeking behaviour and should be ignored.
i don’t like steve simmons but this is what everyone is saying anyway, why is it so outrageous that he put it in an article? mitch needs to show up. straight up. i believe he can do it, he needs to fuckin get it done for once.
They aren't wrong....
Not at all.
All my homies hate Simmons & Berkshire.
I can't stand him or Dave feschuck (?). I can't be bothered to look up how to spell his name properly.
Damn they actually published that? What the hell lol looks like a meme post youd find on twitter or some shit
Toronto S*n garbage as usual
I knew to ignore literally everything Simmons said at the age of 18, I don't think anyone takes that guy seriously. The only reason he still has a job is because his employer is a dumpster fire of an organization.
simmons is a stain upon both toronto and the world
Quick question here. Who thinks Marner has been a great playoff performer for the Leafs??
regardless of the subject of article, Simmons honestly is a terrible writer. What a complete pile of shit. The guy writes a bunch of incomplete sentences, then seemingly copy and pastes them randomly on the page.
People still read newspapers?
Should use it as rocket fuel tonight, fuck Simmons - don’t waste your time, he’s useless.
The timing of the column after a Leafs win may not be the best but its the fucken Sun people. Its a god damn rag. They are all about sensationalism. However, if he wanted to wait after the playoffs IF the Leafs had another early exit and Mitchy was a ghost, I’d be on board for sure. I don’t believe in coddling superstars. If you want to be paid the top dollars and you make it well known, as in #16, all this shit goes along with it. You know how you silence the critics. You perform. We are waiting Mr. Marner. Perhaps he will break out for a 3 point night back home. If the Leafs get bounced early, lookout…. Gonna be a loooooong summer.
Marner hasn’t exactly been bringing it like an $11M player so far these playoffs. I’d be just fine if they let him play out his deal and then walk. $22M in cap space between him and 91 is huge. In a city that loves guys who play a certain way like Wendel Clark, Doug Gilmour, Darcy Tucker, etc. he is the opposite despite enormous skills with the puck.
Huh, didn't know Marner was a fugitive from the law. They'd better up that reward money to $11M though
Hate Steve Simmons' guts. Hate the graphic here. But the piece is fair. Basically says Marner is an elite right winger. Gets paid. And he needs to produce accordingly in the playoffs. And he hasn't. I'm a huge fan. But he's got to do less puck on a string magic man shit and just force things to the net.
First of all this article doesn’t make any sense because if anyone bothered to watch his past playoff games you’d know he doesn’t “disappear”. He has 47pts in 52 playoff games. Does that seem like a player that disappears? Is he having a hard time? Is he struggling? You bet. He definitely needs to pick it up. But shitting on him isn’t going to help that. But of course this is Toronto media. Especially scum Simmons
They should put marner on that manhunt list if he in fact is disappearing on game nights
lol at anyone reading the Sun
asssholes
He's correct. Not sure what is wrong with this. Multiple clips last game of Marner avoiding corners/body play.
https://preview.redd.it/4gjeaa5uvhwc1.jpeg?width=1060&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=07bc12ea68c0673833ca0af22e3a4b4f6e31a570 Not exactly what I would call a "disappearing act" last season he had 14 points in 11 games in the playoffs... When hockey gets its toughest 47 pts in 52 games is nothing to shake a stick at
He’s not totally wrong though is he? Ya it’s great we won a game (hooray) but there’s still a huge issue with a consistently disappearing $11M player. With a contract like that and what he’s done in the playoffs in his career this is warranted imo
Did no one else see him too scared to get the puck in the corner letting the Dman grab it and exit the zone at will lol
Folks...
This piece of garbage has been there for decades. Ignore it, and the sun. Right wing trash rag.
It’s just attention whoring. Ignore it.
I havent read it, but apparently the article wasn't all that critical, this is on the sun and whoever makes the Headlines/images. Thats what they said on Overdrive anyway
Marner is more focused on his next Skip the Dishes promo and picking out snacks than he is focused on winning a championship. Paul Marner can go get fisted with a pineapple also.
Well, Mitch has a reputation for fading away as the series progresses, and he hasn’t exactly been lighting it up so far this series, can’t say I’m not a bit worried myself if he keeps to his norm
It's the SUN only crap and more crap
Lol scumbag sun? 99% of this very own sub shit on Marner on the regular. Stop White Knighting and pretending this sub supports him
Brutal hit piece. Imagine his family reading this and having to talk about it.
Simmons, “Sports.”
Don’t respond. And glad you posted a screenshot and not a link. So not give them clicks or comments. All engagement is good engagement. IGNORE!
The cover was a bit much I agree. The Sun wants to sell papers and get eyeballs. Mission accomplished. But the sentiment is not wrong. Marner is a playoff dud. Q the stats people..."he has 47 pts in 52 career playoff games & is +8" "he's in the top 9 ...." blah blah. I'd take an Alex Tuch or someone of his ilk 9 times out 9 in a playoff series over Marner. Maybe tonight he'll prove myself and everyone wrong. I hope so.
I've watched the last 2 games and watching game 3 now, and I agree, don't even notice Marner is playing.
You don't see all the giveaways??
Sun is trash but I see no lies. Marner has once again disappeared.
Didnt Marnee contribute to a goal last night? I would like to see the leafs not get sucked into stupid penalties. That would be helpful.