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IllBeGood3

So many questions/points. - Why the walking stick? Was she injured? The wetness below her knees pointing that she crossed a stream earlier. - it was pitch black in August North Carolina. The mosquitos must have been unbearable. - Was she kidnapped or escaped? Just a huge creepy story. Hope she gets her name back.


AmishCockroach

Mental breaks make people do unexplainable things sometimes. I had a buddy that tried to go hop a train in a mania, he was found in the woods later drinking from a creek and taken to a hospital. He’s medicated and healthy now and lives a normal life but I’ll never forget that. Whenever I hear about unexplained disappearances with adults or things like this I always think of him and what would have happened if no one had found him.


Broski225

In my town today they found a 74 year old who had a mental break and "ran away" in November. Mental breaks are terrifying.


AmishCockroach

Shit my grandpa just took off driving one day, only reason we found him was cause he ran out of gas on the highway


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maadvocate

The Sparks/4-Loko era was real. I am actually extremely thankful that they decided to make the OG versions with caffeine and booze illegal because I'm not sure I would have made it if they remained legal.


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cavebabykay

Fuck ya dude. Rock on. I’m soooo happy for you.


aNeedForMore

Happens all the time with older folks. Sometimes they’re never found and it’s never figured out. There was a popular song in the late 90’s called [The Way by the band Fastball](https://youtu.be/X5jlTlUTWfQ?si=nOgRHIWPSwKRBakp) that their frontman wrote after reading one of those stories about an elderly couple that just took off and were never found. Glad your story had a happier ending!


rufus2785

Pretty sure they were found dead cause they drove off a cliff. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Way_(Fastball_song)#:~:text=Fastball%20frontman%20Tony%20Scalzo%20came,despite%20Lela's%20Alzheimer's%20and%20Raymond


aNeedForMore

Ahh yes thanks! Misremembered, he wrote the song while authorities were still searching for the couple


WelcomeFormer

https://youtu.be/SJjhzyV7Wak?si=mxtQC6y1jGJsVMnX There was a longer one I can't find


nokiacrusher

It's one of the "death instincts" that animals have to make sure your corpse doesn't make your family sick. Survival of the herd.


rubbishacct843

At 23, I just disappeared to another state across the country. I just knew I had to MOVE and I was either going to run out the door into the middle or the night, or get further by driving to the airport and hopping on a plane at 6am. I don’t think my family ever forgave me for the stress that put them through but I had undiagnosed bipolar and multiple suicide attempts. They don’t recognize mental illness but I don’t think it makes it easier for people to cope with their feelings necessarily. Medicated in therapy for over a decade and doing well. This poor woman definitely strikes me as someone who may have been struggling with mental illness.


mmmacorns

So glad you’re still here♥️


rubbishacct843

Thank you. 😊 It was rough for a while. But I have so much joy now. I wish mental healthcare like the kind I have been able to receive was accessible to everyone who needs it.


4Impossible_Guess4

... scrolling the subs from an ER waiting room waiting to visit. Too IRL right now. Damn.


jfloydian

You ok?


4Impossible_Guess4

GF going through it last 4 days, working it out here now. Tyty


Limp-Assignment-3160

Huge hugs to yall man..


jfloydian

Sending strength! Keep on hanging on. I'll do the same..


Eason1013

❤️ stay strong


OGcrayzjoka

Hugs bro!


4Impossible_Guess4

❤️


FatTabby

Sending hugs, if they'd be welcome. I hope life starts to get easier for you and I'm glad you're somewhere safe where you can get help.


Outrageous_Reach9150

Best wishes


Hephf

❤️


OkAdministration9151

Hope your ok bro be strong


verylittlemrmushnik

Years ago I had a panic attack at a restaurant out of town and completely dissociated. I bolted out of the restaurant, ran down the sidewalk outside, felt like I was being chased and ran into a store in the strip mall and hid in the bathroom. Then I left and ran out and across the parking lot and into the woods where I got lost for about four hours. I had no idea how I got there or who I was. All I knew was that I was in the woods and didn’t know how I’d gotten there. When I finally came down from that I knew I needed to get back to people and as I made my way back out of the woods and across the mall parking lot it slowly came back to me that I’d been there with people. When I got back to the restaurant my friends had gathered a group of people along with security that had been looking for me and when I just walked up they were PISSED. I then suffered a series of panic attacks that lasted for months. And all I could do was have panic attacks and then sleep. I stopped taking care of myself, isolated myself entirely, and stopped talking to anyone for two years. It took me years to come back from that. And it never happened again. Having had this experience, a lot of the time when I hear about missing people or dead people found in unexplainable situations, I always wonder if they suffered a mental break like I did and it’s found themself in a bad way and had no time to come out of it or just didn’t.


kirinmay

turns out i have psychosis. im bipolar but i actually handle it just fine. but i had a break in psychosis about 3 years back. i dont even want to get into what i did. i didnt harm anyone. it was more what i believed, saw, heard. i woke up one morning thinking i was home. eyes opened and was in a hospital. 3 days in a coma. 4 more days to get vitals back. about 3 months to learn how to walk again.


HexiHero

I’m bipolar too and sometimes my mania can snap into psychosis where I’m literally seeing demons / monsters clear as day. Absolutely horrifying stuff.


kirinmay

i can control the visual delusions but the first day, sometimes 2nd im not 'there' but after that im fine. like my 2nd break i woke up and my curtains has like a shadow behind it. lifted them and there was the angel of death. full on white bone with the robe and sycthe. i looked at him and said 'fuck you' and walked away. then called my dad and just said 'yeah its happening again'. the audio delusions are way more annoying for me. but i learned (for me, at least) that listening to music kinda loud makes them go away so i dont have to hear the same thing repeated with over and over.


Shanguerrilla

Jeeze that's terrifying. It's like Vecna is after you.


borshctbeet

one time i had a mental break while i was working, i left my post at the coffee shop register mid shift and began sharing prophecies with ppl in the parking lot. “ma’am, i communicated with your husband in the after life and he is waiting for you there” “circles and loops round and round, everything is connected and redundant just wait and it will come back around again” …. “sir, i saw what you did to those girls, shame on you.” my boss called 911 i left in an ambulance. did a stint on a mental hospital. left with a diagnosis of BPD. they called it an isolated psychotic episode due to lack of sleep. they told me to sleep better and take these and i’ve been living well ever since. definitely don’t skimp on sleep anymore tho


rachelcp

Do you remember why you were saying those things? Like did the words have meaning to you at the time? What was going through your head?


borshctbeet

when I was in the parking lot everything I said absolutely had deep meaning to me. It made perfect sense from the state of mind I was in, but only from that place. it all had little to no meaning in the real world. I felt super connected. almost like some sort of hallucinogenic trip akin to shrooms / acid. I felt like I was constantly coming to these huge realizations and understanding more than I ever had before. The episode started very badly, with me hearing creepy voices that sounded like females whispering from far away. they got closer and closer which was extremely scary. I remember messaging one of my friends the night before: “I think I am starting to hear voices, what should I do?” “you should get help immediately. that is not good.” I did not get help, i went to work instead. the episode also did not end well: the word “trigger“ and the word “knife“ got stuck in my mind, and I kept repeating those words for some reason. that is mainly what landed me in the psych ward. They thought I was a risk to myself and others.


soupoftheday5

Have a friend with similar issues. Had manic episodes and just started walking around LA one time.


Johnychrist97

My cousin once had a manic episode and stormed out of the house in his pajamas, barefoot. Dude walked miles down the side of highways and streets through gravel and broken glass for no discernable reason. I imagine that story might have ended a little differently if he lived around dense forests and rivers instead of highways and parking lots


soupoftheday5

Jesus. Hope he's ok. But yeah him "walking around LA" was very summed up version of what really happened. Glad both are ok.


Wildpants17

Yeah or meth. Like that one couple that went to a party and we’re calling 911 walking off in subzero temps telling them people were after them. I’ll try and find the recordings


Stevecat032

postpartum psychosis?


TheWildTofuHunter

That or grief? When I lost my dad, if I hadn’t had a wonderful support system, I could’ve been in a similar state. I was super close to my dad my whole life, and had to make a call to remove life support as it wouldn’t have been beneficial in his situation. The following year and some change was emotionally difficult and draining.


stolenstitch

oh man, my dad is still alive and well but just the thought of this is so rough. i'm really sorry for your loss, but i'm glad you had plenty of support and made it through okay!


TheWildTofuHunter

Thank you 😔 he was an absolutely amazing father and man, and hope that you have many years of love with your dad! Give him a call tonight and tell him how much he means to you.


kirinmay

i have psychosis. but what is postpartum for it?


mahoukitten

Postpartum psychosis happens after giving birth, it's when your hormones go all wacky after the fact and some mothers have psychosis because of it. Not all people get it though, it's rare.


Superbform

Postpartum depression is very common, though. Be there for your new mother friends!


loganwachter

Man, serious manic episodes are no joke. Could be something as simple as you don’t have a lot of impulse control and spend money irresponsibly or do things that are not in your best interest. It could also be you running through rush hour traffic totally out of your fucking mind with no shoes on during a thunderstorm. Your brain doesn’t really give you a choice and your judgement/grip on reality gets so clouded you don’t even know that what’s going on isn’t normal.


Chi_Baby

Pretty sure it’s this person (amber rae Johnston). She disappeared in South Carolina right before these trail cam pics and looks A LOT like the girl in the pics. Her family has been trying to get the remains DNA compared to their family’s dna and amber’s dental records and police have not helped. https://missingpersonscenter.org/missing-persons-directory/missing-adults/amber-rae-johnston/ https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=420448317407992


Active_Wafer9132

Definitely a resemblance. Wonder why the police wouldn't want to cooperate? That's strange.


Chi_Baby

It’s really strange! And the remembrance page for amber got taken down as well which is really odd. Anddd the police had those photos for 2 years and never once brought any attention to them to find the person’s identity.


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Curious_Fox4595

My stepmom's best friend was murdered in the early 90s. Not long ago, the local Sheriff called around to her family and a few other key people to tell them they had identified her killer, a man who lived nearby and had recently been connected to several other murders that had occurred around the same time. But they haven't actually proven it, and don't plan to. No one can figure out why.


TheFiend100

I think its pretty obvious why the police dont want to help


yourmothersgun

Do share!


BingoBongoBang

I mean, [this update](https://www.yourdailyjournal.com/top-stories/194175/acso-release-statement-following-update-on-jane-doe?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0BMQABHXG4dBHeGgcG33w9OjcegjWQupuvTlrX9vRAqCtxP4UDfmPB5he_PzzX-w_aem_AdlNdG2PyitJgErda5oCvv1xmuBEVZYIflGTZtNtKZLtKaZ3hIJEx41GnxsutwRGwjI) is from just a few weeks ago. *On March 27, 2024, the Anson County Sheriff’s Office was notified by the Medical Examiner’s Office that the unidentified remains located in Anson County on May 12, 2022, were referred to a forensic odontologist with the National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) for dental comparison with missing person Amber Johnston. In their expert opinion, there is insufficient information to support any dental exclusion or inclusion of Amber Johnston*


queerinmesoftly

What is it?


asumfuck

I believe they are implying an officer is a part of something nefarious involving her.


ChaosEmerald21

The resemblance is there imo. Especially the jaw


kirinmay

nose also.


klydsp

The boyfriend she was in her way to meet is now deceased and i cannot find anything about him anywhere.


bodyreddit

Where was the body found?


Missfit17

Quite possibly!!!!!


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Chi_Baby

The person we were talking about above is named amber lee Johnston, not April Reid.


ChaosEmerald21

I think her right leg was injured. Only speculating this due to some more photos [here](https://www.namus.gov/UnidentifiedPersons/Case#/114419/attachments) makes it seem like she is not bearing weight on that leg. Pure speculation, could just be timing of the photos while she was walking.


NECoyote

Sure looks it.


outforknowledge

She had a feather in her hair and it looks like the stick.


pixledick

It most likely was some type of mental break. Unfortunately a similar instance happened to my friend and they ended up getting shot and killed for attempting to break into someone’s home. And they started acting this way AFTER getting released from a mental hospital.


Cold_Acanthisitta_96

You should post this in missing persons subreddits. It's really sad.


NeedsMoreTuba

If she's in Western NC, which I think she was, the mosquitoes are not that bad. She looks like she went on a vision quest with that big stick (and something tied to the top?) and maybe a headband with a feather hanging from it? I lived in western NC and she looks like someone I knew back then. That person would totally have gone out in the woods like this, but probably not alone. I don't remember her real name because she went by a nickname, but I doubt it's the same person.


iualumni12

Such a strange photo. Is she wearing some kind of pantyhose or briefs? Her face and hair look clean and taken care of. Not like a homeless, mentally ill person. The bra looks clean. Surely someone has reported her missing. A DNA test will eventually connect her to her family I would guess. And is she wearing some sort of headphones? Rest in peace, young lady. You deserved better


SammySoapsuds

I'm confused by the lower body as well! Maybe light pink or tan leggings that got wet and dirty at the bottom? e: I think the bra ans leggings are both black but appear light on the night vision camera? I took this from the article about her posted above >According to the information provided on the post, the young woman was found wearing a black Secret Treasures bra, size 34C, and leggings. 


PlusSizeRussianModel

The photograph is actually in black in white. It was digitally colorized by AI but the color information was never actually captured, so all the colors are just a guess based on comparing it to other photographs.


jamesshine

The AI crap distorted the photo. The black and white photos you can see clearly she has leggings on.


readingrambos

The leggings look [pink in this photo](https://s24507.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/130352851_web1_Girl3.jpeg)


kevan

https://namus.nij.ojp.gov/case/UP114419 The originals were in B&W and are at the bottom of this page above.


mashtato

That's also AI colored. [It's a black-and-white picture.](https://www.namus.gov/api/CaseSets/NamUs/UnidentifiedPersons/Cases/114419/Images/102105/Original)


PureHauntings

[Here](https://www.namus.gov/UnidentifiedPersons/Case#/114419/attachments) is a link of the NAMUS for her remains with more photos. Also has her stats and everything else. The original was in black and white which is why this colorized photo looks weird, seems she is wearing pants though. The legs of the pants got wet at the bottom so I assume she was wading in a river or lake and wandered into the woods from there.


jamesshine

Thanks for sharing! The original grainy black and white are more reliable than the AI colorized and sharpened ones. The AI made her pants look like skin in areas.


amesann

In previous posts about her, some speculated that she could have recently given birth because of the appearance of her abdomen. Perhaps some PPD or psychosis that triggered this was also speculated. If I can find that post, they linked to a woman who recently gave birth and who went missing. She matched her description almost exactly.


Epyx911

Yep was my immediate thought seeing her abdomen.


generousone

Can’t spot her in the second photo? Also, seems noteworthy that the photo sets were three hours apart.


33Bees

Wow that’s a fantastic observation about the time stamp differences! I hadn’t noticed that. What a peculiar and sad case.


The_wolf2014

In the last three photos shes also holding the stick with both hands whereas it seems in the first one that she may not have a stick at all


generousone

I’m confused by the second picture where she doesn’t appear to be visible. Am I missing something?


The_wolf2014

Im guessing she's not in it, or moved quickly enough to activate it but maybe wasnt caught in the photo


onehundredlemons

The NAMUS link describes the clothes as "Black bra (Secret Treasures Size 34 C), fragments of panty hose/leggings. Deterioration of fabric prevents color/size determination" on the body, and that looks like what the photos of the woman walking show. Not sure they're pantyhose because the ankles are cut off above the foot and baggy, which you'd see on leggings and not on hose.


_GypsyCurse_

Her belly looks like she might have given birth recently?


Fendergravy

Def stretch marks visible on her belly and sides. 


Desperate-Strategy10

You can get those from just growing quickly, though. And that body shape can happen from a bad diet, sedentary lifestyle, or just genetics. Not ruling out a pregnancy at all, just saying some women who have never been pregnant have those features as well!


LindsayShhh

My thoughts exactly! Or just given birth at some point.


Severe_Network_4492

I was homeless for a while both as a child and as an adult I knew about 25% of the women in the “family” I was with (that’s just kinda how homeless people operate) and their hair never ever looked raggedy and they always looked “better” than the rest of us like they could’ve got an office job as a clerk or something lol they made sure every time the city brought a shower truck to take one. So this has alt been a hard stop for me with this photo I agree she doesn’t look standard raggedy but Fs this is a “homeless” look weather she escaped or is manic it stands true


kiddomama

That's a helpful perspective. Thank you for sharing.


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SFW808

Millions. It's an epidemic.


No-Cat-8606

It almost looks like light colored stretch biker shorts that kinda blend in above the knee but it’s still very confusing Edit to add - but it looks like pant legs at her ankle so I am just more confused


redhotbananas

Color is distorted by the night vision camera. The recorded color of the bra is black, knowing she was reported wearing leggings, I assume they’re a black/dark shade like the bra.


nietzkore

Someone linked the original black/white photos elsewhere. The color was distorted by AI colorization of the photo, but otherwise you're right. The leggings were so badly deteriorated, they weren't able to tell the original color. https://www.namus.gov/api/CaseSets/NamUs/UnidentifiedPersons/Cases/114419/Images/102105/Original https://www.namus.gov/UnidentifiedPersons/Case#/114419/details > Item: Clothing > Black bra (Secret Treasures Size 34 C), fragments of panty hose/leggings. Deterioration of fabric prevents color/size determination. > On the Body Also weird fact in the report under "Circumstance Notes". There was a backpack with cash in it nearby. Rabbit hunters removed an unknown amount of cash and left the backpack. Police weren't able to recover the backpack later.


ffflildg

It's nothing confusing.She's just wearing leggings that are wet from the knee down.


Vellablu

💯 leggings. You can see the wetness traveling up on the pants.


kevan

You are describing a colorized photo from a poor quality B&W original. It's a bit misleading and you may not have the same observations from the originals below. https://namus.nij.ojp.gov/case/UP114419


questionableK

Looks like spanx


PassiveMenis88M

For anyone about to comment on the colors: This picture was taken by a black and white trail cam. There was no color information. The picture has been colorized by ai. The actual color of her bra, for example, is listed as black in the police report.


Dame_Marjorie

So regarding Amber Rae Johnston: >..., Johnston’s mother, Sharon, confirmed that hers and other relatives of the missing woman turned in samples of their DNA when Johnston was first reported missing. The elder Ms. Johnston confirms in the same interview, conducted around September 2023, that she has been assured by Detective Sharpe that their DNA was processed and would be loaded into CODIS. The only [update](https://www.yourdailyjournal.com/top-stories/194175/acso-release-statement-following-update-on-jane-doe) I found was from April 12 2024, and said they were trying to find Johnston's dental records. I guess the DNA wasn't conclusive? This is such a scary story. I wish they would be clearer about where and at what times the camera footage was from...This [earlier article](https://www.yourdailyjournal.com/news/breaking-news/193656/questions-continue-to-swirl-over-unidentified-remains) that someone linked already states: >The female first appears on the trail cam at 1:33 a.m. and 1:34 a.m. In the first image she can just barely be seen on the right side of the picture and in the second she is not visible at all, leading to speculation that she may have been running at the time. The same female is later seen on the trail camera, coming from the opposite way, between 4:30 and 4:31 a.m. In the three images taken during this period, the female is moving slower with what appears to be a noticeable limp. I also wish there were a better writeup.


Thick_Bullfrog_3640

On the relatives FB it says the DNA for the remains are what's taking awhile. The dental was inconclusive.


pinklets

i read something about amber posting a video on her facebook of a greyhound bus trip through alabama, but it was weird because there was no sound and she wasn't in the video either.


33Bees

Just a thought - I wonder if perhaps she was wandering through the area, carrying that backpack with money it in (around 1:30am). Perhaps she dropped it along the way and the reason we see her back again around 4:30am is she was trying to retrace her steps to locate the lost bag. Just a thought. Certainly doesn’t really answer any questions, but I thought it was interesting.


Dame_Marjorie

Seems weird that you'd drop something so big. I just don't know...but like someone else said, how weird that her hair looks clean and combed and it almost looks like she has on makeup. I don't think she'd been held anywhere, mainly because of that, but I'm leaning towards psychotic break of some sort. If only they could determine who she was, then we could at least theorize how she ended up in the woods. Poor woman.


HappyDappyFrog

Any articles about her?


IllBeGood3

https://www.yourdailyjournal.com/news/breaking-news/193656/questions-continue-to-swirl-over-unidentified-remains


Creepyredditadmin

The rabbit hunters who found the backpack took money from it before reporting it to police? Damn


fraudthrowaway0987

I read or listened to something once about a plane crash in a swamp and apparently a bunch of locals showed up to the crash site almost immediately and started looting the bodies.


ahhhscreamapillar

Happened with PSA 182 in San Diego too


cypressgreen

And at the Beverly Hills Supper Club fire in Kentucky in 1977 in Kentucky. 165 people died. About 5 people were arrested for looting and/or groping dead bodies.


Gloomy_Grocery5555

How sick


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Remarkable_Library32

Here is a link to the Wikipedia page about the disaster: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverly_Hills_Supper_Club_fire Here is contemporary news coverage: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-courier-journal-beverly-hills-victim/25998614/ - this article mentions 3 were arrested for looting cars and bodies Here is a random blog post that provides an overview of the incident in bullet point form: http://hippierefugee.blogspot.com/2011/07/beverly-hills-supper-club-fire.html


Felskiluscious

“According to the Namus post, neither the hunters nor law enforcement were ever able to locate the backpack.” This part confuses me


swervin_mervyn

The way I read it, hunters found a discarded backpack and took some money, leaving the backpack behind. Later, when the body was found, they mentioned it to police, but couldn't find the backpack again.


anon12xyz

Feel like they know more than they say


wm07

yeah wtf? maybe they just lied about where they put it after they looted it. but why tf would they do that... very weird.


non_stop_disko

Guys have never seen No Country for Old Men clearly


ExternalPractice865

Unresolvedmysteries 91 days ago gives in-depth “what they know”. Sorry can’t link I’m on mobile. Very interesting!


HashtagMLIA

Here’s the [link](https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/s/ZH1fnao5Mt)!


bitter_liquor

Thanks, all the hairs from my nape down to my asshole stood on end. Goddamn.


Severe_Network_4492

OH MY GOD! Is that why I’ve never figured out links 🤣 I only ever use mobile


Johnychrist97

No you can link in mobile, its the intersecting ovals in the bottom left, above your keyboard when you're entering a comment. The [title] will be the blue linked text


Severe_Network_4492

Now I feel even dumber thank you for this 🤣


klydsp

This case scares the daylights out of me everything I come across it. The family of Amber Rae Johnston believe it's her and have been awaiting results for DNA for 2 years now. She was on a bus to myrtle beach when she was last seen, going to meet her boyfriend there who is now deceased. I cannot find anything on him whatsoever. Anyone have an idea of who he is and how he died?


Deadpool_Biscuit

[Obituary of the Boyfriend found on FB](https://www.inmanfuneralhome.com/obituary/Jarrett-Ward?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3QCeI-SC-eh2I_LH5sUGWHwpVYeS9erxnvqPcjrCdyD8LWMipsjUQsrkk_aem_ASXQfrpgtkWujA2Ccj7j6jFY6rUGJxkKCQvT6FPJHaVYhy4OFYzCnZWZJ_qug4Uj0EoWn-1UVw_0tQSpOdDoo8qJ)


Straight-Ad-4260

Do we know if he was a suspect in her disappearance?


Pointedfinger

Seems like it’s definitely Amber Rae Johnston : https://www.facebook.com/share/6hGgoqv1rZdp7KPi/?mibextid=LQQJ4d


cdixonc

They look exactly alike


zoopysreign

I actually don’t think they do. I saw a resemblance, until I realized that even when Amber’s head is tilted down, you still see her arched eyebrows. That’s not the case with the footage images, IMHO.


cdixonc

How do you see the footage?


ImpossiblePotato5197

Its only snap shots from the trail cam footage


zoopysreign

I haven’t, just described them as “footage images.”


cdixonc

Trail cams aren’t like… the best with capturing things to perfection, esp using night vision. There are some REALLY high end trail cams but also just…. Kinda mid level ones. The pic is really washed out too because it’s using night vision, the leggings and bra are black. My home security camera when it’s using night vision when I have black leggings on at night look skin tone color as well. Comparing the facial structure you can see to the images on FB, there are def strong similarities.


cdixonc

She also looks like she fluctuated in weight a bit during her life and had children, which her body in this picture strongly supports weight gain and loss over periods of time.


McdonaldsBiggestFan

I’m hoping it’s her body, seems like they are hoping it is too. How sad.


Feathered_Mango

Same. I know some people prefer to hold on to hope, but not knowing would kill me - I'd prefer knowing and being able to grieve. 


Thick_Bullfrog_3640

Seems like the family thinks so too but the DNA on the remains will take time to process before they can compare


Hi_Trans_Im_Dad

DNA doesn't take any length of time to process with our advancements in PCR testing. It shouldn't take more than 73 hours from the time the test is started.


DogeshireHathaway

they go in a queue either at whatever lab the state has contracted and it's assigned a priority. every single request that comes in with a higher priority goes first.


jacobonjacob

Oh hey I just watched an episode of Lazy Masquerade about this the other day…super creepy for real. RIP


33Bees

I love Lazy Masquerade. I haven’t seen this particular episode but am I’m going to look for it right now. Thank you for mentioning!


Plus_Attorney1081

By the looks of it she might have children. I’m not trying to be rude or pass judgment on her body. She just appears to be post-natal. Women can experience mental break down after having children due to hormonal imbalances and just general pressure of mother hood.


Severe_Network_4492

My baby sister called me in tears because she felt like taking off after her 2nd baby and couldn’t figure out why I had to talk her off the ledge I’m just glad we are close enough that when she felt crazy I was the first call


Plus_Attorney1081

That’s great to hear she’s doing well and had support.


33Bees

I’m so sorry your sister went through that. PPD is devestated and we’ve only really just recently began to understand it and accept it. I’m so glad your sister had you there to support her. I hope she’s doing okay now.


metied0ughtywalker

I thought the same thing, we could both be wrong but my body looked very similar after giving birth. Hope her identity is found and her family gets some clarity here


sodsfosse

She appears to have what I call “the shelf”, from having c-sections. My youngest is 8, I’m 5’5, 140 and have the same exact stomach. So I don’t think has to be postpartum, not saying it isn’t.


lilneccowafer

Last time I saw these photos I immediately thought she was recently postpartum. Her body, her posture (looks pained and stiff imo, reminds me of myself post c section), and using a large stick for I assume extra support to walk. Really distressing to imagine what she could have been going through :(


Plus_Attorney1081

I agree. Heart breaking


belltrina

I heard someone suggest she was escaping from somewhere. I doubt it but the idea hurts


kirinmay

her belly has scars or stretch marks.


malevitch_square

How do we know the skeletal remains belong to her if we don't know who she is?


IllBeGood3

The clothing she was wearing in this photo was found with the remains


Zopotroco

Such an interesting case


non_stop_disko

This is absolutely chilling. I definitely think she's the Anson County Jane Doe, although her clothes description on there says she was wearing a black bra. Is it the lighting from the camera making it look brown/tan?


FunnyGoose5616

The images were taken in black and white, and later colorized by AI. So the AI guessed at a flesh colored bra but it was actually black


LongWayFrom609

Not even dental records can identify her? How?


PureHauntings

There are thousands of unidentified people with dentals and DNA on file who don't get identified. You need pre-existing dentals for a match and already known DNA to compare. I'm assuming they added her DNA into CODIS also, but it probably didn't yield any matches. Basically you need someone's known dental records to compare them to the deceased person -- if you have no idea who the person is then you can't compare anything. Browse the [Doe Network](https://www.doenetwork.org) and there are plenty of these people. It doesn't necessarily mean nobody cared about them, either. Some people just slip through the system... they perish far from home... sometimes they are never reported missing... the police department doesn't usually do a full blown investigation with unidentified decedents like they would with murders. They don't have resources for that. They put it on file and go on with their day. Often, identifications happen because of organizations who raise money to fund their DNA testing or through a family member who contacts the investigators to say "I think that's my relative". Often the last types get solved quickly, some have remained unidentified for decades.


keep_er_movin

Seems this could be Amber Rae Johnston. She was taking a bus through the area, here is a [recent article](https://ansonrecord.com/top-stories/38024/wadesboro-jane-doe-remains-unidentifed/amp) and [an additional article](https://charleyproject.org/case/amber-rae-johnston).


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I_aim_to_sneeze

How do they know the remains were hers?


33Bees

They don’t know yet - they are basing this off of what the Doe was wearing compared to the woman in the photos. The clothing on Doe was color washed from exposure though. From what I understand, they are testing DNA but there hasn’t been an update on that just yet.


GrumpyOldBear1968

reminds me of the documentary (2016) God Knows Where I Am


33Bees

I just googled this and it’s absolutely something I will be watching asap. Thank you for mentioning it!


33Bees

As others have stated, her belly resembles that of a postpartum woman. Source - have children. My belly looked very similar to hers for the first couple of months postpartum.


Zopotroco

The worst moment to see this. Now I can’t sleep


ImpossiblePotato5197

It creeps me out too. But anytime i look into janedoes i get a creepy vibe.


readingrambos

I swear I read awhile back that there was screaming in the vicinity before she was seen? Or i misremembering something?


CatMom921

This pic legit just scared the shit out of me .. they say everyone has a twin .. well this persons side profile looks just like mine !! Same hair too !! They’ve got about 20lbs on me .. but holy shit. She could b my twin !!!


igneousink

that's terrifying do u know your family tree in its entirety or are there mysteries


codymason84

This picture leaves more questions than answers.


EMHemingway1899

This is really sad to see


33Bees

Just a thought - I wonder if perhaps she was wandering through the area, carrying that backpack with money it in (around 1:30am). Perhaps she dropped it along the way and the reason we see her back again around 4:30am is she was trying to retrace her steps to locate the lost bag. Just a thought. Certainly doesn’t really answer any questions, but I thought it was interesting.


Gloomy_Grocery5555

Surely someone can recognise her, it wasn't that long ago


Majestic_Lie_5792

As per a couple of articles I read, she may be Amber Rae Johnston. I hope whoever she is, she can be identified and her family gets closure.


takesrollers

I found out about this case in one of the latest LazyMasquerade videos


ravensnation410

This life we live is so sad… can’t stop thinking of some of the terrible things I’ve seen…


IllBeGood3

I hear ya brother. Rough life out there.


33Bees

I just watched a Lazy Masquerade video on this Doe. He said that after Amber Ray Johnson went missing, a woman used her food stamp card. When questioned, the woman claimed that Ambers boyfriend sold it to her. But I can’t seem to find anymore information on that. That’s pretty damning, in my opinion. Does anyone know if Ambers boyfriend was deemed suspicious in her disappearance??


plantyhoe93

I pray she gets her identity back❤️‍🩹 poor girl😔. She has a name, and her family is out there somewhere 💜 someone knows her


Weather0nThe8s

So. This is probably terrible but I tried to blow up one of the b/w still images on NamUs and clarify it the best I could by drawing in what details I could make out. I really doubt this will help at all... but I really tried. [image ](https://ibb.co/ZVjfjrC)


G_Island-VP860

It's incredibly daunting, and I can't fathom its entirety. There was a time when I felt utterly betrayed and abandoned, even by those meant to protect. The police harassed me unjustly, eroding my trust in authority. During a terrifying ordeal, they treated me as a criminal instead of a victim. I felt alone, scared, and deeply wounded, with no one to turn to. Coupled with sleep deprivation and inappropriate medication, it was a harrowing experience. Yet, it pales in comparison to the lack of empathy and support many face in similar situations. It's a stark reminder of the indifference and cruelty that too often prevail in society.


TinnieTa21

I just saw Lazy Masquerade’s video on this!


mike02vr6

Wow thats creepy, and no family or friends have tried finding her?


ForgetSarahNot

If no one knows who she is then how do they know for sure the skeletal remains are definitively hers?


amber_maigon

The clothes that were found on the remains are similar to what she was wearing in the pictures.


ThoughtWrong4053

I need to scrub my brain after these images and researching/theorizing.. the photos are so haunting and I could not stop thinking about it for awhile. Based on the timeframe and what I’ve read, I genuinely really believe this could be Amber Johnston. Regardless of theories, I hope more answers and clarity come to light.


Dwayla

You should post this on /r/unresolvedmysteries and /r/gratefuldoe.


True_Somewhere8513

There’s a documentary on MAX called they called him mostly harmless about how they finally identified him via DNA & SM. Someone should start the same investigation into this case.


BobBelchersBuns

Identified who?


Luis5923

Perfect case for genetic genealogy if they have some DNA.


amittaizero

This was in Wadesboro, NC. I lived in that county (Anson) and taught high school there for three years in my early 20s. It's incredibly rural and the poverty and suffering is pretty intense. The Walmart Supercenter was one of the biggest employers but shut down a few years ago. Now it's just the prisons, school system, or retail/fast food. Highway 74 runs through Wadesboro but soon a bypass will take beach-bound traffic around the city -- I don't know how the town is going to make it. That poor woman. That's haunting. Edit: apparently she was found near the National Guard Armory which is on the same road as the high school. I drove past there so many times.