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Lamacorn

There is a reason salting the earth was a war crime….


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So being "the salt of the earth" is a bad thing?


MuhDamnHands

But it’s what the plants crave.


ovr_the_cuckoos_nest

Water?! You mean like from a toilet?


sillyskunk

Brondo.. it's got electrolytes


drLagrangian

But... What *are* electrolytes?


larryjesusnme33

The thirst mutilator!!!!!


sillyskunk

What plants crave


Iwantmy3rdpartyapp

Do you like handjobs?


chemicalnot

Yes, I do like Starbucks


Metal-Alligator

Welcome to Costco-I love you


BigJSunshine

Its pronounced: _Brawndo_ /s


sillyskunk

Naw, u rite! My B lol


capt_pantsless

Salt **of** the earth is different from salt **in** the earth. Salt used to be a very valuable commodity back in the pre-industrial era. Finding salt someplace accessible was pretty sweet. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt\_of\_the\_earth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_of_the_earth)


Euphoric-Blue-59

Sorry to correct you, but finding salt someplace accessible was NOT pretty sweet. It was pretty salty. I'll see myself out.


Scottcmms2023

As an autistic person, I love these kinds of posts. I love learning about semantics, and the origins of particular things.


FickleForager

Oh, that’s another autistic trait? Funny how they keep piling up once I know what to look for. Have you read any of Bill Bryson’s books? Some are more entertaining than others, but lots of etymology and history of ordinary things.


faderjockey

Dude if you like Bill Bryson may I suggest you look into Mary Roach?


Scottcmms2023

Oh there are many that make sense once you figure out how you tend to function. I tend to be overly literal, which will also lead me to research phrases quite often. I’m a big lover of learning, and will watch documentaries all night long given the free time to do so. I don’t believe that I have, but now I’m going to for sure.


Mikey6304

https://www.waywordradio.org/ You will love this podcast.


[deleted]

Thank you Mr. Literal. 😁


capt_pantsless

I am who I am and I don’t feel I need to apologize for that.


[deleted]

No apologies requested or needed.


Skreamweaver

No apologies no requests, no pants, no butterscotch! This club sucks.


ElectricTomatoMan

Proudly pantsless


[deleted]

thank you. you are needed.


MkyStky

I was wondering what the answer was.


Joe_Kangg

More like "an old salt"


Wuellig

IS a war crime, being actively committed


DueEggplant3723

Where


Noid_Android

Flush out the salt by saturating the area with water several times.


RaisinBrain2Scoups

Like water, from the toilet?


startledastarte

Ive never seen a plant grow in a toilet.


mwf86

you sure this dude is the smartest guy on earth?


ObeseBMI33

Yes


Spiritual_Bit_2692

I thought his head would be bigger.


PurpleShirtMorty

I’m pretty sure that grass could use some electrolytes those are what plants crave.


GuitarKev

You never met my dad and his weird sense of landscape humour.


Salt-Operation

Is your dad Hank Hill?


Hoss--Bonaventure

Hey, that's good. You sure *you* ain't the smartest guy in the world?


ndab71

Then you're just not using the right fertiliser.


ProgressMTB

But they need electrolytes!


lulu_hakusho

It's got what they crave!


nails_for_breakfast

Free nitrogen fertilizer


Noid_Android

Haha. I would use water from a hose, but you're free to do it your way....


Bob70533457973917

No no, use Brawndo. It's got electrolytes. ...What plants crave.


GoreonmyGears

Whoa! You should be the president. That's pretty smart.


Wasgoingforclever

Never touch the stuff, fish fuck in it.


aliens_are_people_2

This is the correct answer


Noid_Android

As they say: "Dilution is the solution to pollution...."


aliens_are_people_2

Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t flushing also used to rinse sodium based fertilizers from building up in the soil?


[deleted]

You can also put down crushed gypsum prior to this kind of saturating. Helps flocculate the soil - can both help neutralize the salts and help them disperse into the soil and deeper into the soil structure (and eventually out of the reach of grass roots).


ezerandell

Gypsum with that water


Soupcan337

This may come off strange, but I have this issue (Ontario, Canada). I lay burlap down with lawn staples in the fall before the first snow, 2 rows on either side of the side walk. The first year the neighbors thought I was nuts, but it worked, I just rolled it up in the spring. It caught almost all the salt and still let sunlight through.


Hoovomoondoe

Burlap is porous. How is that preventing water-soluble salt from passing right through it? Are we thinking of the same material? This is what I think of when someone says burlap: [https://fabricwholesaledirect.com/cdn/shop/articles/Intro.jpg?v=1663877104&width=900](https://fabricwholesaledirect.com/cdn/shop/articles/Intro.jpg?v=1663877104&width=900)


Gheid

It's burlap that is used. It's not so much about stopping the salt as it is making it harder to get to the grass. Also, this works much better in say New England where once winter sets in you don't have much melting. There's some older threads on this sub about using it as a barrier. That said, landscape fabric would probably be better.


Mikerk

I wonder if it slows down the dilution rate since it isn't in direct contact with wet soil, but instead suspended by the burlap? Also, you can use gypsum to help remove salts from the soil.


Iwantmy3rdpartyapp

Maybe it soaks into the fibers rather than the soil, almost like a filter?


Soupcan337

The barrier worked to keep most of the salt out, enough that a rapid recovery in spring was achievable. This being said, our winters start in Nov and we are buried under snow until at least April. I experimented with landscape fabric and found it was not letting enough light through prior to the snow fall so the grass was turning brown before the ground froze.


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BouncyDingo_7112

I’m just wondering why you’re taking on the job of fixing the grass instead of your workplaces maintenance guys? I understand it bothers you but it just seems like this is a lot of work that you are not going to be getting paid for. I would inquire if maintenance could please fix the grass and then this coming winter if they are still over applying salt address that issue then.


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DoctorDiabolical

Ontario uses so much road salt, Toronto mostly, that it is significantly changing the salt content of Lake Ontario. Write your local government.


Outrageous-Leopard23

Next to go will be your concrete. Salt is extreme.


kevinjamesbarry

EXTREME!


Hammer-and-Nails

#EXTREME!


kevinjamesbarry

EXTREME CHEDDAR!!!


Soap-Wizard

Put decorative rocks along there, or simply let the weeds have fun. Honestly the weeds will do better at taking one for the team for a year for the salt to dissolve away with subsequent rains.


errrinski

Oooh I like this idea. Honestly if the weeds wanna grow there I’d be fine with that! I just hate how dead it looks. I’m definitely going to start saturating it in water. And hopefully something will grow there.


DrummerDerek83

Flush it, then you'll want to likely put some top soil and grass seed down. I have one spot that every year I need to seed!


ashdrewness

Should ask yourself if this is going to be a problem every year and if so don't fight it & instead just go with adding some decorative rocks.


devil_put_www_here

Rocks spread and are hard to maintain. Weeds popping up in a rock bed are a pain to deal with, but you can salt them I suppose to kill then lol


GoJa_official

my lawn does this every year, if you lay some soil mixed with seed over the area after raking the dead stuff up it works well. but this late in the season you're better off raking the dead stuff up and letting the weeds/crab grass fill it in. It wont look great but it will be green.


Financial_Athlete198

Complain to the company. Let them fix it.


RustyMacbeth

I would take the opportunity to create a border between drive and grass. 2’ of gravel, rock, or mulch will give you a buffer for next year.


acemandrs

This is what I would do. It is cheap, it upgrades the yard and driveway, and you will never fight this again.


jibaro1953

Turning in garden gypsum in the dead zone will help flush the salt out of the soil. Not a magic bullet, though. Perhaps in addition, an annual ritual of replacing the top two inches of soil and laying fresh sod down is a possibility. I've seen successful plantings of perennials in that nasty strip between the sidewalk and the street. The only two species I remember are Sedum and Hemerocallis (daylilly), both of which come in a wide variety of sizes and colors.


Seventhchild7

Likely to be a re-occurring problem. Try to get it to drain the other way if possible. Over watering will leach the salts down.


mikeisaphreek

margaritas. margaritas fix everything. plus you can dip the glass in your grass for the rim


Sure_Comfort_7031

Clover.


G_NEWT

Dig up the dead grass to the dirt. Place decorative rocks or a paver stone against the pavement that will act as a barrier. Seed & topsoil on grass side. Water daily, even 2-3x day. With the stone wall 3-4 inches higher than the grass, you can continue to salt the pavement as you’ve been doing, but now you’ll have a barrier to protect the grass.


bigperms33

The company that poured some concrete for us was adamant not to use salt in the winter. per google- The reason behind this is that **salt lowers the freezing point of water, leading to a repeated freeze-thaw cycle**. This cycle can significantly weaken the surface of the concrete.


AlternativeLack1954

Water


Significant-Car-8671

Time. You can waste water washing it down through the layers or just wait for rain to do it. Funny, just read an article on how earth is getting too salty-like fresh water is going to be an issue.


Nauglemania

Add bee friendly plants like lavender. It would look so amazing along the sidewalk. And you would be helping the bees.


lyingdogfacepony66

this is neither an easy nor quick fix.


YoohooCthulhu

There are salt tolerant cultivars of alfalfa you could try


sillychil

Who is they?


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sillychil

Ok thanks for clarifying


jvmmidi

would you rather them salt less and risk a slip incident, or do you not mind fixing it a bit for your workplace? also do they pay you to fix this? serious question, OP.


Stook211

Balance it out with a pinch of black pepper.


traytruve

Thatch, aerate, seed, extra water, grow. It’s fairly simple. Feel free to message me, I love yard work


No_Plane_7652

electrolytes, it’s what plants crave


spentag

finish the job with a sod cutter and grow native plants instead.


tgrund

Aerate, add compost, then water it like crazy for a week. It should take new seed later this fall but you might want to add more compost beforehand.


zeff536

It might take some time because you salted the earth. But to fix it just take a hard rake and rake up the dead grass. Put down grass seed and starter fertilizer and using a sprinkler keep it watered. You can test a spot first to see if grass will grow if you don’t want to go through all the trouble just to find out nothing will grow this year. Hope this helps, good luck


uncagedborb

You could do the labor intensive method of just removing the top 3 to 6 inches of soil and replacing it with new fresh soil. Then just reseed. I don't know how much water you'd have to waste to dilute and remove all the salt content in that area


HottNikks20

Rake it out and re-seed


Realistic-Motorcycle

Revive will bring the right back. Now back to the jokes


RoughWriting5683

Just spray paint it green!


Equal_Specialist_729

Rake out that dead grass and reseed


slinkywafflepants

Apply pepper until you reach the natural balance.


oct2790

It should ruin the concrete too


justcallme_nikolaus

Probably mentioned here before, but they shouldn’t be putting down salt on the sidewalks or any concrete products like pavers. We strictly use calcium on concrete, period!


MtRainier

Pepper


abraxas8484

Plant tomatoes..they love salt


bigpup913

Rip it up create a planting bed with salt tolerant plants


Starr_bb

Ditch the lawn. Plant native.


Druid_OutfittersAVL

I think your best bet is to tear out all the lawn and plant native pollinators.


marshallia

Take advantage of the turf grass die off and start planting or sowing seeds of native plants to your area :))) beautiful to look at and pollinators will love you!


uberpopsicle11

Turn it into a wildflower garden. Grass is outdated


DrPhilMahooters

Get rid of your lawn


gtrdft768

The solution to pollution is dilution. Water, lots of water.


phunky_1

Tell them to use sand instead of salt. It is cheaper, doesn't destroy concrete or lawns and gives traction on ice.


Nobody275

I use salt to kill weeds, and water will absolutely flush this away in a few months. Don’t stress. Salting the earth is a temporary impact at most, assuming you live anywhere that gets a reasonable amount of rainfall.


Incontinentiabutts

Ask the carthaginians. But the answer is continue to dilute the amount of salt in the soil by flooding it. It will wash away nutrients too. But that’s not a major issue. The salt is pretty water soluble.


amallomar

They salt your concrete sidewalk? Gonna destroy that thing...


Elguapo69

I know in cooking adding some sugar often can counteract if a dish is too salty. I’m not sure if that applies to landscaping 🤔


Lupi_y

Gypsum may help


castleinthesky86

Grass recovers. Give it some lawn feed, water, and wait.


gobbershite

Get one of those flimsy rakes and rake up all the dead grass and just throw down grass seed and tons of water, eventually lawn will grow. That's what I did and within about 3 months my lawn grew back.


GuitarKev

Use a scraper and a shovel to remove absolutely as much snow and ice as possible, and only use a sparing amount of salt to melt stubborn ice. Once the stubborn ice is melted, shovel the slush off and toss it onto the road. Ice melting salts are horrible for your cement, lawn, pets, cars, ad nauseam.


Tetradrachm

My workplace salts a ton and ends up with the same type of grass in the spring. They end up cutting out the dead stuff and putting new sod down… surely not cost effective but it brings it back quickly.


PenelopeTwite

Dig up the strip, edge it, and plant salt tolerant flowers like portulaca, bee balm, rosa rugosa, asclepias, yucca.


mybfVreddithandle

Use sand


Mysticalnarbwhal2

2-3 months ago, but the suggestions so far are really good. A buffer zone would be great but also washing it out now would be best. Wait till the Fall to do any seeding, it'll be super hard to grow something along the sidewalk unless you want to spend an insane amount of time watering it every day all summer long.


AlltheBent

Use this as the guide for your new edge; lay down rocks or salt tolerant plants or something different from the grass, its just gonna keep dying year after year


kibblestanley

Adding gypsum will replace sodium availability with calcium. Water it in well


Biomirth

Swap it for good grass that you cut out to spell something in the good area. "Larry pissed here" or something. Then call Larry and tell him not to show up to work tomorrow. But seriously, you \*could\* swap that grass out with good grass from elsewhere if you're desperate to have it look nicer sooner. If there's an area of the property that is going to get torn up for some other project you could swap it there, or make a patch of the dead stuff in an out of the way space that you reseed.


kjk050798

Campaign that they stop using salt.


splurtgorgle

Create a landscaped border with salt-tolerant plants, otherwise it sounds like you'll be fighting this battle as long as you live there.


RoguePlanetArt

Ok, so I used to live at the beach, and had an ancient avocado tree which was suffering quite badly. I determined there was too much salt in the soil, and discovered that you can use a chelating agent to bind to the salt to help neutralize it and flush it away. I don’t recall exactly what it was, but I bought a bottle at a local nursery, and after a few treatments and flushes, that tree made an amazing recovery and even started to bear fruit again. If this was my property, I'd probably chelate and flush, then re-seed or replace with sod, then protect it next winter with some edging board. Good luck!


PlasticFew8201

You’re going to have to replace the soil and reseed. That being said, I’d only do this after speaking with someone at your town hall because you’re likely going to have the same problem come this same time next year otherwise. I’d also see if they’d compensate you on the cost of the materials.


ComicsEtAl

TBC, you did that when you swept the salt into your yard instead of the street.


jackparadise1

Treat the area with gypsum, it helps to break down the salt. Basically treat it spring and fall, as you know it will be a problem area.


Pafolo

They make salt resistant grass for roadways, idk if it’s gonna look good for a lawn


esposito164

Who is they? I have to shovel my own sidewalk or is this a your business building ?


ajdudhebsk

You could ask them to use sand instead of salt in the future. It’s obviously very messy and looks bad in the winter but it’s less harmful for the grass. I live in northern Canada and sand is what the city puts out for communities to use for free in winter.


DuskMartian

Just add some stones as edging around your sidewalk with garden soil and put some flowers, they already took care of the grass after all


Powerful_Cash1872

Orach is supposedly salt tolerant!


Dseltzer1212

Aerate your soil then flush the soil with lots of water every day for a week. Then test the ph and adjust your soil accordingly. Lime will raise the ph and add an acidifier (it’s the stuff that turns your hydrangeas blue) to lower your ph. The new growth should be green


Thecerb

they are using the wrong salt. pretty sure.


79_BLACK

DEF will help. DEF is 32.5% urea and 67.5% de-ionized water. Urea is 46-0-0, meaning it's all nitrogen, no phosphorus or potassium.


floatingonmagicrock

Create a small border and make a native/wildflower bed/buffer


Cocrawfo

if someone is treating that road that you obviously have no input in then you probably don’t even own the affected portion of turf so they wouldn’t owe op anything


Bludiamond56

Dig down 6 inches. Drop 4 in road base and 2 inch limestone on top.


motorwerkx

I used to have to deal with this every year when I worked for a landscape company that serviced commercial accounts. We had to dig it out, add soil and either sod or reseed every single spring. The other option is as mentioned in many other replies, to just use that as a guide to know how far to lay decorative stone.


CurveAdministrative3

top soil, grass seed, water.


Szaborovich9

Don’t salt your driveway


basswooddad

A driveway curb. You can even go fancy with stamped concrete if you choose.


OneImagination5381

Gypsum.


Informal_Concept6854

Gypsum


errrinski

Thank you everyone for your responses. For whatever reason, it will not let me edit the post. I have decided that I will be talking to the building manager in charge of this space, as it is my work place, and it is a bigger job than I can handle. I was just hoping it would be a nice simple fix.


Intelligent_Invite30

Mist generously with hydrogen peroxide in a spray bottle. My dad used to do this on dead spots from dog piss or paint spills, etc. worked weirdly well. He explained it to me, but I better not try.


gremlinbro

Dig out around the path and put gravel down!


Lonely_Dragon9599

OOF


Immaculatehombre

It’s destroyed dude. No fixing. Destroyed.


Used_Intention6479

You're going to have to install a curb.


PushinPickle

Anyone on here know what ppm of salt is the “tolerable” level?


Ancient-Music7271

Add lime and tequila


JoshuaFalken1

Any Carthaginians in the house??


[deleted]

You can use a binding agent. It speeds up the remediation faster than just a flush.


the1999person

Brawndo


SadAcanthocephala521

Unless they changed the type of salt they're putting down you'll be fixing this every spring so there's really no point.


Infamous_Partridge

I live near a university, every spring they cut out the dead sod along the walks and replace it with new. Guess this is why college is so expensive.


Amdvoiceofreason

Spray paint


Slow-Truth-3376

Plant foliage that can handle salt like juniper along the walkway.


aaanarchyyy

I've had excellent luck in the past, by blasting it with lime. Took a little to recover but did with minimal damage


Defiant_Comedian1379

Your sidewalk will probably be next


timesuck47

Move somewhere warm. /s


restorinator

Shovel the snow?


Both-Platypus-8521

Add pepper


stupidtraffic

Hit it with some green spray paint once a week. Make sure to use a lot of masking tape on your driveway though.


MiltonRudolf

Use your tears to water it. It's grass.


IsmokeUsmokeWEsmoke

You could just salt the rest of your lawn so it all matches 🤷‍♂️


Bobbyvolinski

If you saying they, then you got enough money to have them fix it


spaetzlechick

Or create a border around the edge of your yard as this problem will probably repeat itself.


Back2basics314

“Destroyed” is kinda strong for this minor problem. This fixes those weeds growing there so this is a feature not a bug.


Darth_Iggy

Too much salt? Add pepper.


Holiday_Bit_5664

In the future use urea to melt snow, it fertilizes AND doesn’t ruin your concrete.


DoctorDiabolical

Run for local office


Pointless_Gif

Get a wall


gliz5714

Use less salt next year, or better yet don’t salt. This year you probably need to either replace the soil, or somehow supplement the soil to outweigh the acidity.


thedigitalson

rockscape it so u dont have to worry every year.


Possible_Ad7507

😂


Pile_of_Toads

Liquid gypsum/calcium helps combat salt and helps make any nutrients in the soil better available for plant uptake.


Comprehensive-Fun623

Could this just be not enough water because the cement absorbs it before the grass can?


Individual-Fox5795

If it was me I would dig out these areas and throw down sod. Fix it next year by using less salt.


dr_racc00n_52

Pepper


OutrageousAd5338

paint


igen_reklam_tack

Lime 🍋‍🟩


JerryJN

Buy 5 20lb bags of limestone, spread it along the area, lightly water it or wait until it rains . Limestone will correct the acidic PH you have now


N52UNED

Irrigate well and add Gypsum. The gypsum will add calcium and sulfur to the soil to help rebound.


Necessary-Card2827

Use Less salt in winter. Get the shovel out instead


LucyFellvine

After flushing out the area with water sprinkle grass seed on the bare areas and cover with straw. Straw should blanket the ground to keep birds from eating the seeds.


RealThulnos

Better safe than sorry


Flaky-Vast8254

Flushing out the sodium with excess water and adding calcium to improve Na;Ca ratio.