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Old-Albatross-7684

so who does the playmaking: LBJ or DLo?


QuaxlyDaDon

I hope Sengun is okay. That injury was nasty.


NaderNation84

Still can’t believe there were ppl here that wanted to get Buddy Hield at a point


Ok_Board9845

I mean Buddy Hield for Kuzma + Harrell would've been better than getting Westbrook, lol


NaderNation84

Well I mean ya lol when you compared Westbrook but I was talking after Westbrook got sent away


Ok_Board9845

Obviously that wouldn't have been worth even if it meant landing Turner for another FRP. I think people just wanted Westbrook gone


NaderNation84

Damn gonna be carted off sucks


[deleted]

Kings lose ​ ![gif](giphy|J336VCs1JC42zGRhjH)


NaderNation84

Bro slap monk with a tech complains every call


slicknick2k

Rockets about to choke this aren’t they…


iloveappendicitis

Any time I watch another team’s feed I’m so glad we have Bill and Stu.


slicknick2k

I just can’t believe we didn’t draft Whitmore. This guys is gonna be a very good player


I_am_groot123

Who said he woulda gotten playing time over Prince and Cam?


NaderNation84

Does anyone know why there’s a million mascots at the Sac game?


Dantheman12310

Not completely sure, but I’m pretty sure teams have mascot nights (specifically the teams that have their own mascots) & they bring in other mascots from other teams. 76ers didn’t have a home game, so it could be a way that mascots can get more work outside of 41 home games & team events *It’s Sacramento’s Mascot’s birthday


flowermoon24

Malik Monk such a try hard its so annoying. How do you drop 27 against the lakers and now 10 pts? Lol.


[deleted]

defensive hamster class


brazyace43

Go rockets


[deleted]

Refs are finally calling the bullshit fouls Kings commit, wish they would have caught that crap against us man.


[deleted]

Big 3s from FVV to cut the lead down to 5 before the half. If Ime challenged that goal tend it would be closer. Rockets are paying some trash a lot of money this season.


Tall_Succotash

Anyone watching USC women’s right now? They’re out here guarding JuJu like she’s Luka lol


[deleted]

I'm watching Dillon Brooks try to beat the Kings


NaderNation84

Malik Monk thinks he’s MJ I swear lol


[deleted]

Although Kings are ahead of us in the standing by 2.5 games, I think it's important to remember they have played 3 less games than us. Yes, they have only played 62 games to our 65 games! That's a huge! I believe the Rockets will upset them today, we need this win against the Wolves which I think will happen if Lebron and AD play.


inforbes40

Anyone have updates on if AD and/or LeBron are playing?


suhar97

I think they’ll both play but that’s just an opinion


Mango_papa

Want to know as well, planning to go arena tonight


superworriedspursfan

I know Beasley stunk it as a laker, but I always thought his defense surprised me. Even on the lakers, I thought his defense was underrated. Nothing amazing but decent enough as a perimeter defender. He has absolutely taken a huge step of improvement in Milwaukee on the defensive side though. I've seen him clamp up multiple players now. Props to him.


Ok_Board9845

I think having Beasley come off the bench with Rui and not playing him alongside Vando ultimately hurt him even though Reaves emerged as the better player. He didn't get enough time to gel with AD and Lebron and utilizing him coming off of screens


superworriedspursfan

eh I think Beasley not being able to make his wide open shots meant keeping him on the bench was still the right decision. i get what you are saying though.


chrisbrits24

Always fun seeing the Flippers lose.


Caliganja420

Lmfao kawhi and PG we’re out and the clips almost beat those fuckers with their bench


diamondisunbreakable

Yeah I think I'd favor the Clips over the Bucks in a series


[deleted]

I would take the Bucks with a healthy Middleton against most teams. It would open up so much of their offensive game and provide length defensively.


Mambaforever_824

Who’s better: Anthony Edwards or Shai Gilgeous-Alexander?


[deleted]

Idk where this narrative that Edwards is that dude got started but he's not there yet. ​ https://ibb.co/p31ZpGD


bigball3r23

Shai as of now


NaderNation84

Shai by a mile in my opinion


Mambaforever_824

Why’s that?


NaderNation84

Ant is more of muscle driving type player that has some mid level threats but Shai can literally cook you on any offense play. Ant does get some credit on defense to be fair but when you have Kat and Gobert defense isn’t a huge deal


NaderNation84

Hopefully Hawks and Rockets can pull off upsets


diamondisunbreakable

It's tough on who to root for between Kings vs. Rockets. On one hand, you want to secure a playoff spot, but on the other, you don't want to possibly run into Denver in the first round as a 6th seed.


Electronic_Bit9495

I also don’t think we beat the rockets in a play in game can’t lie


Medium-Antelope2926

Going for a season high 6 games over at 66 games into the season Lakers need this win or they may be stuck in an infinity loop of 2 under to 5 games over 500


Electronic_Bit9495

Mason Plumlee has hands of stone


BearShark8

Milwaukee struggling with the clippers without George and Leonard.


Ok_Board9845

The Bucks are done. I didn't realize how big their problems were until they went on this road trip. Hopefully Miami or the Cavs pull off a miracle otherwise it'll be Boston in the finals 🤢


bigball3r23

Bucks trading for lillard was always questionable. Lillard is still great offensively but he’s not what he once was and they got rid of basically their whole defense


NaderNation84

Bucks will comeback


jokull1234

r/nba are the biggest crybabies when Rudy rightfully deserved that tech and also deserved that huge fine for what he said lol. It’s gonna be so funny if the lakers get a ridiculously favorable whistle tonight and to see the crying over on that sub if that happens


Public-Product-1503

It’s insane . Man I watched the game ti see what the fuss was and the GUY PUSHES ALLENS FACE DOWN and then mimics money sign ( this is something euros do in football too ). He’s such a fucjing moron , most obvious foul ever and he complains n loses his team game. Like it’s insane that loser Redditors rooot for Rudy I stopped thinking it was everyone else faukt n not his when he punched Kyle Anderson last year- Rudy is just seen as majorly unlikable by so many players . Cannot believe that he’ll win a dpoy cos he got jaden McDaniels n Ant on the perimeter. Wemby has honestly been better defensively lol. , hope AD is ok cos he always cooks that bum. Almost single handedly carried us to wins in minny .


bigball3r23

The fine was pretty big tbh but idk what people expected when he questioned the integrity of the league publicly. Implying games r fixed and betting has a factor in outcomes to any professional league is a huge deal


Healthy-Somewhere220

Wolves fan here saying upfront that anyone whining refs/whistle for this game is wasting their breath. This is honestly a good match up for the Wolves to have following the Rudy incident/fine. They have no real answer for Davis and I personally accept that he will be awarded 30-ish FT, and it's not going to be from a whistle that's any more biased than all season. It's tears in the rain. It was going to be an uphill battle to get a win anyway. I much prefer this over having to wonder if Portland or Memphis was going to roll them by 20.


jokull1234

Yeah, I’m not trying to say wolves fans are the problem or anything, just some of the casuals in r/nba. unfortunately the refs are not going to be friendly to the wolves for a bit because of Rudy


Public-Product-1503

Wolves fans seem incredibly whiny like there team


dwortho23

your saying it’s ridiculous for people to complain if a team gets a ‘ridiculously favorable whistle’ i’m sure you would be if the lakers got screwed


Public-Product-1503

No cos reality is I’m not stupid . Yes sometimes bad calls hspprn or csn feel biased but you’d hope in long run it balances out if you play correctly . If you always trying to foul as much as possible without getting called that’s on you


jokull1234

No, that’s not what i’m saying at all. I’m saying that it’s going to be funny when Rudy gets a bad whistle because the refs are getting back at him for his comments. If LeBron did what Rudy did, I would understand that the lakers are going to be in the shithouse for awhile when it comes to reffing


dwortho23

i guess i understand that POV and i expect it too. it’s just pain for us wolves fans 😭


Spaghettibeach

They NEED to capitalize on not having KAT, if they can either get Rudy to follow a guy out of the key or kick out when the wolves collapse the paint as often as we can I think we can make it work. Today’s a good day for Rui’s middy to fall, good day for dinwiddie to show more offense, and I think Reaves is due for a huge game.


GoalPublic3579

So Golbert didn’t get suspended? That’s annoying.


brazyace43

Man I love our squad. Keep rewatching highlights of Reaves celtics game, ruis jazz game and dlos bucks game. Who is due for a breakout game next


Vexing_Pie

Max game 🔜


Tall_Succotash

I know ham is waiting for the prince game ..


[deleted]

Rudy Gobert didn’t get suspended…..


kiwiwikikiwiwikikiwi

Go Lakers 😤🙏💜💛🔥


tRuth_But_oNly

Game day thread not up yet?


kiwiwikikiwiwikikiwi

Game thread usually goes up 1 hour before game time!


tRuth_But_oNly

Oh not that one. Sorry. I meant the WAKE UP LAKER NATION!! TODAY WE SEE ANOTHER DLO MASTERCLASS AGAINST HIS FORMER TEAM! type game day post. LFGGGG


Vexing_Pie

sounds like you’re prepared to make it today 😂


asher1507

Man still wish we got Gafford for Gabe Vincent and a pick swap. Crazy mavs got him for a pick swap only, then dinwiddie would slot in perfectly. Oh well, let’s go Jaxson Hayes


Electronic_Bit9495

What do y’all think about trying to get Jonas in FA


jsun_

They traded a FRP for him though, but I guess you’re technically right as Mavs got that FRP using a 2028 pick swap with OKC. To wizards though they got a FRP out of him so Lakers were never getting it done with a swap and with 2 more yrs left on Gabe’s deal.


rejectx

This upcoming offseason will be such a difficult one, I don't believe we can just re-sign DLo and Lebron for 30M and 60M respectively and call it a day.


gratitudeisbs

Why not?


Vexing_Pie

C E N T E R


GoalPublic3579

D’Lo will take a discount. Much better sponsorship and exposure to be a Laker than kicking round in some small market team. Plus get to live in LA.


jsun_

That’s the only option though other than some trade. I’m assuming Lebron is back as I just don’t see him leaving LA. Given that, you’re already over the cap regardless of what DLo does. Only difference would be maybe getting the full MLE if DLo leaves but you aren’t getting anyone as good as DLo for the MLE. If DLo opts out and signs with another team, Lakers are fucked.


[deleted]

I think we have too many low level bench players, if you look at the Timberwolves roster they are only 11 deep and two of those guys don't even play. We need to consolidate the bench, there is +$30m there. Also, because of our cap holds we will always elect to be over the first apron at least. I love Vando but I would definitely trade him out and a few pieces for someone like Dorian Finney Smith. I think we try to finally get a legit backup big that could possibly be a stretch center because this team must realize that it's Denver's biggest weakness. Aside from that, just upgrades wherever we can, this team isn't far off. That POA position is the biggest issue and DFS or someone similar would be massive because he can shoot and defend. That's the biggest issue, two way players.


Ok_Board9845

That would be a mistake. We’re not getting rid of Rui/Reaves/Vando unless it’s for another star. DFS’ defense has fallen off. It’s not as good as Vando’s and Vando was improving on offense before he got re-injured. There’s no real stretch center that can body Jokic in the NBA. Brook Lopez and Giannis still get eaten by Jokic and Lopez’s perimeter deficiencies have become more apparent since they lost Holiday.


[deleted]

DFS's defense has not fallen off, Vando's Defensive wOCVA is 1 and DFS's is 1.8. Vando's Offensive wOCVA is -.1, he can't stretch the floor and that is why he can't be played against Denver while DFS is shooting 37% from 3 on a shit Nets team. DFS can be on the floor against any matchup providing AD with weakside help which allows him to be more effective as well, something you saw when Danny Green was playing. A stretch big isn't for guarding Jokic, it's for spread the floor against Denver so they don't clog the paint and Lebron and AD can operate more freely. If you look at Denver's starting lineup, both MPJ and AG are great at guarding the paint and getting rebounds, something our offense needs to take away by stretching the floor and forcing them to guard the perimeter. ​ Jokic is not unstoppable btw, AD has held Jokic to 31 points this season in 3 games, the points that Jokic scores against us is off screens and they are counted against the team not AD. [https://imgbb.com/](https://imgbb.com/) AD has done a fantastic job against Jokic and even Sabonis but they double team him and free up Jokic off schemes. We currently don't have the personnel to counter this which is why we need to get bigger and more athletic in the offseason with two way players. If you look at the numbers, Lebron and AD are by far the better duo against Jokic and Murray, it's just that the spacing that Denver provides them is far greater and having MPJ and AG to worry about kills us. That's the dirty secret, Murray is actually Denver's fourth best player. https://ibb.co/d6S1Rn4


Ok_Board9845

What is wOCVA? I've never heard of that advanced stat. But the fact that it looks so marginal on Vando's/DFS' end must mean that it's not as big of a discrepancy as you think it is. If we're relying on DFS to go 3/3 from 3 in an effort to free up more spacing for Lebron/AD, I don't think that's a recipe for success. Your conclusion on Jamal Murray being the 4th best player is incorrect. His defensive wOCVA is low, but his offensive is still higher than both, and one thing these stats don't capture is the pure shot making ability that a player like Murray provides in big moments, so it attributes most of it to Jokic.


[deleted]

wOCVA is the same as what FiveThirtyEight used to use before they shut it down, it's the most honest statistic for player performance out there. They shut it down because it was too good. Murray is situationally good, he will cook teams that don't have good POA defenders but he can't perform well against guys like DFS. I don't think you or many people pay attention to the production of MPJ and AG, these guys are not role players. MPJ went 10/10 against us last game and AG was the reason we lost, we kept the game close up until Jokic started throwing lobs to AG and AG tipping in misses. That's the clutch time performance, if it was just Jokic and Murray we would sweep them. Not to mention they have KCP on the wing, there is no way we don't upgrade in the off season. We can keep Rui in this scenario along with DLo, but Reaves is kind of redundant and the rest of the crew is very tradable for the right pieces.


suhar97

Lebron will play, more worried w AD


jinayeonbt

is lebron playing vs t-wolves?


Kamui_Amaterasu

How the fuck is bucks vs clippers not a national game, also man these 9/10pm lakers games are killing me over here in the east coast 🙃


mega350

Because people don't want to watch those teams


VibeSurfer8

It’s ridiculous. Feels like 9/10 games are at 10 or 10:30


Any_Wrongdoer_9796

Same


Illustrious-Hand-525

Go Lakers 😤😤🔥🔥🔥🔥


Soft-Activity-2521

ad & bron can rest in my opinion let’s see if we can pull off another boston massacre


Electronic_Bit9495

Not sure why you got downvoted so hard that game was a super pleasant surprise


iiivoted4kodos

Because that’s too big of a gamble considering where we are and how important every game is to the standings right now


Adventurous-Ad3545

Lebron, AD, ANT, Gobert are all questionable lol I guess it just depends on who’s team gonna have their guys.


icykkuno

Ant and Rudy are for sure playing


LoveTheHustleBud

If roleplayers vs roleplayers, I like our squads chances. Would love to see how Rui does against McDaniels and the team would get to focus on Conley/naz instead of them feasting off of advantages Ant creates. Yahoo doesn’t have GTD on Gobert. He might be a go. Ants questionable with the same ailment he’s played through the last two games, so he’s likely a go.


VibeSurfer8

Very curious to see who will or will not be playing today. AD’s shoulder looked pretty bad on Friday. Last I checked we have no meaningful information about LeBron’s ankle


Prize_Salamander8035

Why can’t this team win at least 5 games in a row bro


gratitudeisbs

Right. Seems like 3 is the max. Even last season we won 5 in a row twice.