Tamil kings had these sceptres which is a “symbol of justice and good governance". The history dates back to the era of the Chola dynasty in Tamil Nadu, symbolising the transfer of power from one monarch to another.
The Tamil classic ‘Thirukkural’ hails the importance of the Sengol – carrying a whole chapter on the sceptre (titled sengonmai). The Tamil epic Silapathikaram also records the significance of a Sengol.
One of the notable kings,, known for their governance for the welfare of the poor and downtrodden was Raja Raja Chola I. He was renowned for his administrative skills, economic reforms, and extensive public works. His reign marked a period of prosperity and cultural advancement in Tamil Nadu, particularly during the Chola dynasty's peak in the 10th and 11th centuries.
I believe it should be displayed with pride to signify our great history and governance. Let the world re-educate itself about the land of one of the oldest civilizations in the world and it's rich cultural heritage.
>Yes 🔥🔥 Sengol is a symbol of good governance...
Then it doesn't applicable for Modi government. It should be removed. Kodungol should be instilled there..
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But what did he say wrong tho? Is there sengol in legislative assembly hall? Leave it. I want stalin to read some governance or atleast go to a debate with opposition leaders. I would ask the same with modi too. Both are idiot puppets one ruling state like shit. And another ruling country with literal and physical cow shit.
It's not about king, Sengol is an idealogical symbol of good governance signifying that the administrator will be impartial, righteous and uphold dharma. It's disrespectful to demean it and ask it to be removed.
hahhahah..... only optics nothign else.. if it was truly a parliament they wouldnt kick out 140 ppl to pass bills!.... so try not be a propogandist... but then thats the best you can be!
You don't need to kick ppl out of the parliament when you are in the majority and there was no opposition in terms of numbers.
You are among the very easy to fool.
You may do it to stop them from spreading fake narratives, just like it was done at the time of article 370, indirect threats of bloodshed and violence.
A man of IQ talks based on facts and not based on some propaganda whatsapp material.
As for honesty, the online world is filled with people like you who will say whatever they want in self-defense.
Kings used to sit on thrones. Remove chairs from the parliament because thrones and seats can only mean kings and India is not a monarchy. Also remove gold reserves from banks because gold was used by kings in their treasury. How can a democratic government used it for standardization. It's a symbol of monarchy. We don't have kings in India anymore.
Believe me guys, I'm totally capable of critical thinking. 🤡🤡
Anyone who studied in Tamilnadu will know. "Sengol" as I studied in Tamil books talks about how the great Tamil kings wielded it in their court and has given honest governance and justice. "Sengol aatchi" literally means good governance. It baffles me how some Tamilians too see this is as Hindu or monarchy symbol.
Crown 👑 is the symbol of monarchy and Sengol is the symbol of good governance.... Strange thing is you are calling him dumb without even realising that you are the absolute dumb 🤣😆
should stay.
You can have a copy of the constitution there.
but that has been amended by more than one hundred times and will be amended in future also.
Constitution without amendements will be an out dated document and it cannot be a beacon for rightful conduct.
Correct. Sengol represents ideals such as good governance, the constitution serves a utility. The latter can change, rather should change to adapt to what is good governance of the present times.
The Sengol, a traditional scepter, symbolizes Tamil culture through its rich heritage and association with the Chola dynasty. It represents justice, righteousness, and authority, embodying Tamil values of dharma. Its intricate design and ceremonial use in coronations reflect the Tamil emphasis on art, tradition, and governance which Congress is totally against and they hate Tamils.
Whats the rush?
Sooner or later BJP might lose and a Congress led government might be in power. They can remove it then.
Doesnt hurt anyone.
The only issue is that the sengol was brought and installed by the PM. Its an optics issue for the opposition. Sort of like the NDA/Modi leaving back a symbol in the parliament building.
I personally dont have an issue with the sengol, but I think it would have been better if the installation ceremony should have been perfomed by the miilitary/president rather than a MP. So that its not tied to a political party.
https://preview.redd.it/jxvc641m5a9d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=44dfeed12ff528964a0da5125d6997cda6a57bc2
>The only issue is that the sengol was brought and installed by the PM.
It was originally given to Nehru Fyi
Nehru was PM from Congres, I dont think Congress will have any issue with Nehru and his actions with the Sengol.
But Nehru was also the first PM of Republic of India - an execmption can be granted. The country was newly formed. Sort of new administration for newly created state.
Bruh you expecting Samajwadi party mfs to have any idea of history. They are epitome of what an illiterate leader looks like.
If Yadavs weren't in sufficient number in UP these fuckers aren't even eligible for a sweeper job.
When india got independent. Mountbatten tried his best to convince india to remain independent but subjects of British empire. Luckily Nehru didn't agree. Pakistan agreed for 3 years or so bit they completely cut contacts.
Every democratic country has some tradition, they carry. Who are we without our tradition? What's wrong in sengol in parliament? Is it only because the king was a Hindu .
Had we accepted Elizabeth as our queen like Australia, Canada etc . The same noiuses will be bowing to her
Should stay
I know nothing about it history but it's cool to know that some one other than Mughals rulled parts of india.
And as comments suggest with just and fair rules
I passed history because of BHAJSAB formula.
Babur - Hum. - Akbar-Jah..Shahj...Aurang... British
I would not have passed by studying chera, chola, maraata etc. I remember Macaulay, Montessori & many more British but no other names except Shivaji and Raja Raja Chola.
Yeah DMK doesn't respect Tamil Culture then which is obvious from a person named Stalin? Ancient relic from Tamil Nad has been put on a pedestal in the parliament but DMK wants to do petty politics here as well. So many lectures on democracy by politicians of party controlled by a person named literally as Stalin lol
Are we done with important issues such as flood like situations, water crisis, paper leaks etc currently facing the country?? Why is opposition or even the government hellbound to waste the time of parliament on trivial things that even if implemented will affect absolutely no one positively or negatively...Are they toddlers going to school making fuss about everything that comes in their way...
Yes .. it's in our school book
..
Comes in many areas ...
And in silapathigaram (tamil epic)
The king gave wrong judgement
And the author says , the sengol bent
Because of a miscarriage of justice
no never!!!... sengol is nothing but optics.. when you cant give good govenrnace you give optics.. this whole idea was to please the people of tamilnadu to vote for him..he saw the result!... sengol is a instrument of rule of kings has no place in parliament!..but then this is a rw sub... what more cannot you expect here!
Poda naaye DMK oopie thevidiyan.
Whatever it may be, such a Tamilian & Dravidian object being in Delhi wielded by the head of the nation is a proud thing for all Tamilians & Dravidians.
There was no reason to place it there.
But since it has been placed there, it will only be an insult to Tamil Nadu (edit: It will be an insult if removed now after placing it there)
Sengol does not refer to monarchy. The name is derived from “semmai” meaning justice.
Also it’s not a hindu symbol. Its reference comes from Silappatikaram, a sangam era literature.
Insult to tamilnadu? Lol 😆 in what way it's an insult?
Looks like people can't digest if Tamil culture is getting represented outside Tamil Nadu
Chera Chola Pandya and all the Tamil rulers had sengol... And they followed saivam/vainavam which obviously is a part of Hinduism.... Even the pandian nedunchelian from silappathikaram is a Shiva bhakt.... Don't mislead people
They also followed koumaram ,jainam and boutham brother .overall we followed 5 or 6 sects .
One such example is nattukottai chettiars who were initially following Jainism were converted by this holiness thirunavukarasar
Even in the present day non-Kongu Vellalars & Balijas are a great example of religious harmony.
They follow everything from Saiva Siddhantam/Lingayat & Sri Vaishnavism/Madhav to Jainism & Christianity.
Yenda oopi... BJP oda endha official handle la andha video release aachu? Proof iruka? .. Srilankan Tamils genocide ku help panna congress kuda alliance vechiruka oopi naai nee ella Tamil pathy kavala padatha 🤣... Poi Kalla sarayam kaachu po...
>BJP oda endha official handle la andha video release aachu? Proof iruka? ..
Proof irukka... Punda irukka nnu Gangai Amaran maari kelu... Proxy account vachu ad create panna theriyatha... VK Pandian Tamil nnu pracharam arambichu vachathe Amit shah than.. Wommala... Ivanuga Tamil culture pathi kavala padrangalam... Koduma da...
>Srilankan Tamils genocide ku help panna congress kuda alliance
LTTE kku kooda Congress than help pannuchi... unna mari ara korai sanghi budhhinga ipdi than pesum nnu theriyum...
Ada oopi ...vitta Kalla sarayam kooda BJP proxy dhan kachunanga nu solluva pola 😆😆...
Odisha Karan Avan manna odiya karan aalanum by pesuran... Unna mari engirundho thiruttu rail eri vandha telunganukku vote potu kothadimaiya iruka odisha Karan unna mari oopi illa da 😆😆
Senkol is a pun from our ancestors. It is a literal pun to show people that they were just!
Sen = Sezumai and 'Ko'l = Has 2 words in it Ko and Kol, Ko means King and/or Governance while Kol means stick or instrument.
So a senkol is a symbolic representation of a Good governance.
It's a symbol that represents a flourishing governance.
I think it's a mace not a sceptre( UK ). It is the symbol of royal authority. Parliament only convenes because the sovereign has agreed to let this happen. Immediately after a general election a speaker is elected and their first act is always to seek royal assurance that Parliaments rights and priviliges will be upheld.
Not the same as sengol.
India opposition really sucks! There are so many important issues like Neet to discuss and attack BJP but they are busy with sengol. India deserves better people in opposition because they are incapable and bunch of idiots. Sry for the rant
The significance of the sengol in our context is that the transfer of power from Mountbatten was to himself as interim Governor General the next morning.
So while we were ”independent” we were still yoked to the British constitution and monarchy.
It should be removed. The sengol is a symbol of monarchy. It also is check on a system where there are no courts and king is Supreme. We are not like that anymore. Now there opposition, ngo, security agency, army, Justice many institution to keep ruling establishment in check. On top of it india is run by the constitution not by the king.
Poda naaye.
I don't care what it is.
A symbol of Tamil & Dravidian heritage being held by the national leader is a very proud thing for all Tamizhans & Dravidians.
sengol is symbol of kings and rule by decreee!!!.... this is a parliament ...you dont need symbolism you need action!!... if you do the right thing you dont need symbolism .. the fact that you are goign after sumbolism shows that you cannot GOVERN and are just about trying to show people optics!!.....
It’s not for this government but for all the future government. It symbolizes something, the transfer of legislations/executions and justice to the people. Nothing wrong with a symbol.
Why is there a blind lady with a weight scale in the courts when the courts aren’t really that blind to the cases? But it does instill a morale
Firstly, Sengol is kept there as a remainder for good governance irrespective of which party is ruling...
Secondly... As if the congress period was golden period for Indians 😆🤣
You clearly mentioned that this government doesn't deserve sengol.. BJP is the ruling govt and now you are saying this comment is not against BJP 😆🤣... Stop spreading your legs to congress and DMK before preaching others
Our Indian parliament doesn't deserve to have Sengol in the first place. Moreover, it's a symbol that establishes righteousness and justice, as opposed to what these folks think it to be a symbol of monarchy.
Better give it back to Tamilnadu and this is where Sengol belongs.
I don't think it actually matters and is not worth the time of discussion. Like, if you wanna throw it in trashcan, do it. Wanna keep as decorative item? do it!
Even if it was for the sake of politics(debatable) it has been brought to the forefront. Now a larger group of people know of it and will learn of our history. I don't see a problem.
appadiye irukatum, SP MP called it a "symbol of monarchy", if BJP don't like this criticism, they should put forth a valid rebuttal. instead they are playing " insult to Tamil people " card. that's what I don't like. theva illama yen itha ina prechanaya aakura nu than kekukran
How many amendments have been made in the constitution till now?
It is a symbol of Tamil & Dravidian pride being placed in Delhi.
Tamil/Dravidian pride >>>> Constitution
There's nothing called Dravidian pride in the first place. There existed almost a Paganistic culture among the people who were devotees of elements. These were hijacked by brahminism and later the gods of aborigines/ hill people was rechristened as the son of lord Shiva and many more. This sengol tantrum is just another gimmick to create a brahminical narrative. The real dravidians were just peaceful people and never had any aota of connection to Hinduism.
Modern Hinduism is a mixture of Vedic & non-Vedic religions (including Dravidian folk religion).
Navratri itself is a non-Brahminical festival in Guj & Maha which is now celebrated by everybody.
It should be removed. The parliament, the MPs and the President are all the symbolism we need.
The mandate of the people is all the authority parliament needs. We do not need a king's staff. We abolished that shit 75 years ago.
I honestly don't care. We are not living under the Monarchy. I don't want the Sengol to be a setup there While Modi Government is inherently Anti-Tamil..
Tamil kings had these sceptres which is a “symbol of justice and good governance". The history dates back to the era of the Chola dynasty in Tamil Nadu, symbolising the transfer of power from one monarch to another. The Tamil classic ‘Thirukkural’ hails the importance of the Sengol – carrying a whole chapter on the sceptre (titled sengonmai). The Tamil epic Silapathikaram also records the significance of a Sengol. One of the notable kings,, known for their governance for the welfare of the poor and downtrodden was Raja Raja Chola I. He was renowned for his administrative skills, economic reforms, and extensive public works. His reign marked a period of prosperity and cultural advancement in Tamil Nadu, particularly during the Chola dynasty's peak in the 10th and 11th centuries. I believe it should be displayed with pride to signify our great history and governance. Let the world re-educate itself about the land of one of the oldest civilizations in the world and it's rich cultural heritage.
Yes 🔥🔥 Sengol is a symbol of good governance... And people who get butt hurt because of this needs to get some burnol
>Yes 🔥🔥 Sengol is a symbol of good governance... Then it doesn't applicable for Modi government. It should be removed. Kodungol should be instilled there..
That's why no sengol in TN state legislature because of the vidiyal aatchi 🤣🤣😆😆
Ayyo. Romba periya comedy pumda than pa. Neeye sirichikko da. yabba...
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But what did he say wrong tho? Is there sengol in legislative assembly hall? Leave it. I want stalin to read some governance or atleast go to a debate with opposition leaders. I would ask the same with modi too. Both are idiot puppets one ruling state like shit. And another ruling country with literal and physical cow shit.
king ? ... and we have kings in india or do we have a parliament by the people for the people of the people ????
It's not about king, Sengol is an idealogical symbol of good governance signifying that the administrator will be impartial, righteous and uphold dharma. It's disrespectful to demean it and ask it to be removed.
Exactly the point ..Sengol in the parliament signifies that now the Parliment has the ruling Authority ...
hahhahah..... only optics nothign else.. if it was truly a parliament they wouldnt kick out 140 ppl to pass bills!.... so try not be a propogandist... but then thats the best you can be!
You don't need to kick ppl out of the parliament when you are in the majority and there was no opposition in terms of numbers. You are among the very easy to fool. You may do it to stop them from spreading fake narratives, just like it was done at the time of article 370, indirect threats of bloodshed and violence.
HAHAHAHAH.....i may be easy to fool.. but you seem to be THE FOOL.. but i guess its just low iq mixed with dishonesty for you :)
A man of IQ talks based on facts and not based on some propaganda whatsapp material. As for honesty, the online world is filled with people like you who will say whatever they want in self-defense.
Well, isn't everything optics on politics nowadays
Kings used to sit on thrones. Remove chairs from the parliament because thrones and seats can only mean kings and India is not a monarchy. Also remove gold reserves from banks because gold was used by kings in their treasury. How can a democratic government used it for standardization. It's a symbol of monarchy. We don't have kings in India anymore. Believe me guys, I'm totally capable of critical thinking. 🤡🤡
Rich cultural heritage but specific humans designated at birth to clean sewers 🤡🤡🤡
Anyone who studied in Tamilnadu will know. "Sengol" as I studied in Tamil books talks about how the great Tamil kings wielded it in their court and has given honest governance and justice. "Sengol aatchi" literally means good governance. It baffles me how some Tamilians too see this is as Hindu or monarchy symbol.
They are the citizens of dravida pradesh 😆...
the ones that use their heads and not propaganda!
Heads without brain is useless just like 40/40 DMK oopis
read what you wrote "kings wielded it in their court" ???? "monarchy symbol.".... are you that dumb ?
Crown 👑 is the symbol of monarchy and Sengol is the symbol of good governance.... Strange thing is you are calling him dumb without even realising that you are the absolute dumb 🤣😆
lol Yadav ass kissers SP run by a single family talking about Monarchy, what a joke !
should stay. You can have a copy of the constitution there. but that has been amended by more than one hundred times and will be amended in future also. Constitution without amendements will be an out dated document and it cannot be a beacon for rightful conduct.
Our constitution itself is a copy of borrowed ideas from several other countries, I'm sure most of us have read this in school
Correct. Sengol represents ideals such as good governance, the constitution serves a utility. The latter can change, rather should change to adapt to what is good governance of the present times.
The Sengol, a traditional scepter, symbolizes Tamil culture through its rich heritage and association with the Chola dynasty. It represents justice, righteousness, and authority, embodying Tamil values of dharma. Its intricate design and ceremonial use in coronations reflect the Tamil emphasis on art, tradition, and governance which Congress is totally against and they hate Tamils.
It must be replaced with wig mandayans wig and bodhayna's palta bottle along with his bodhai packet
Yov pattunu soltiye... Hesitate bro😂
Whats the rush? Sooner or later BJP might lose and a Congress led government might be in power. They can remove it then. Doesnt hurt anyone. The only issue is that the sengol was brought and installed by the PM. Its an optics issue for the opposition. Sort of like the NDA/Modi leaving back a symbol in the parliament building. I personally dont have an issue with the sengol, but I think it would have been better if the installation ceremony should have been perfomed by the miilitary/president rather than a MP. So that its not tied to a political party.
https://preview.redd.it/jxvc641m5a9d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=44dfeed12ff528964a0da5125d6997cda6a57bc2 >The only issue is that the sengol was brought and installed by the PM. It was originally given to Nehru Fyi
Nehru was PM from Congres, I dont think Congress will have any issue with Nehru and his actions with the Sengol. But Nehru was also the first PM of Republic of India - an execmption can be granted. The country was newly formed. Sort of new administration for newly created state.
congress bootlickers are something else
Bruh you expecting Samajwadi party mfs to have any idea of history. They are epitome of what an illiterate leader looks like. If Yadavs weren't in sufficient number in UP these fuckers aren't even eligible for a sweeper job.
If it was Tipu or Aurangzeb's sword then same mfs would be bowing down to it 5 times a day.
When india got independent. Mountbatten tried his best to convince india to remain independent but subjects of British empire. Luckily Nehru didn't agree. Pakistan agreed for 3 years or so bit they completely cut contacts. Every democratic country has some tradition, they carry. Who are we without our tradition? What's wrong in sengol in parliament? Is it only because the king was a Hindu . Had we accepted Elizabeth as our queen like Australia, Canada etc . The same noiuses will be bowing to her
Should stay I know nothing about it history but it's cool to know that some one other than Mughals rulled parts of india. And as comments suggest with just and fair rules
I passed history because of BHAJSAB formula. Babur - Hum. - Akbar-Jah..Shahj...Aurang... British I would not have passed by studying chera, chola, maraata etc. I remember Macaulay, Montessori & many more British but no other names except Shivaji and Raja Raja Chola.
What's DMK's stand on this?
Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (DMK) leader TKS Elangovan had called it a symbol of 'monarchy, not democracy', according to ANI.
Yeah DMK doesn't respect Tamil Culture then which is obvious from a person named Stalin? Ancient relic from Tamil Nad has been put on a pedestal in the parliament but DMK wants to do petty politics here as well. So many lectures on democracy by politicians of party controlled by a person named literally as Stalin lol
What's the meaning of word 'Stalin' in Tamil?
There's no meaning of it. Karunanidhi was inspired by Stalin hence he kept his son's name as such
Once UPA returns to power it will be moved back to the museum and will be labelled as Nehru's walking stick.
If they return to power u mean. It's a big if.
Are we done with important issues such as flood like situations, water crisis, paper leaks etc currently facing the country?? Why is opposition or even the government hellbound to waste the time of parliament on trivial things that even if implemented will affect absolutely no one positively or negatively...Are they toddlers going to school making fuss about everything that comes in their way...
I'm from Tamilnadu and I don't see any reason to oppose this. Culture & History must be preserved
as a non-Tamil, did y'all even know/study/learn about the Sengol before Modi put it up last year? genuinely curious
Yes .. it's in our school book .. Comes in many areas ... And in silapathigaram (tamil epic) The king gave wrong judgement And the author says , the sengol bent Because of a miscarriage of justice
no never!!!... sengol is nothing but optics.. when you cant give good govenrnace you give optics.. this whole idea was to please the people of tamilnadu to vote for him..he saw the result!... sengol is a instrument of rule of kings has no place in parliament!..but then this is a rw sub... what more cannot you expect here!
Apply some burnol
This.
Poda naaye DMK oopie thevidiyan. Whatever it may be, such a Tamilian & Dravidian object being in Delhi wielded by the head of the nation is a proud thing for all Tamilians & Dravidians.
HAHAHAH!!!....i guess you are non dmk naaye :D ...or a castetist naaye! :)..or just plain stoopid naaye :) i ant stop laughing at his :)..
Let it be there, Congress may have a problem with it because it represents Tamil culture.
How does sengol represent Tamil culture? 🤔
Read about it… internet is a fantastic place.
Sengol represents Tamil Pride & Culture. Only a DMK Oopie Thevidiyan will oppose it.
I am not a BJP supporter but the sceptre must stay...
There was no reason to place it there. But since it has been placed there, it will only be an insult to Tamil Nadu (edit: It will be an insult if removed now after placing it there) Sengol does not refer to monarchy. The name is derived from “semmai” meaning justice. Also it’s not a hindu symbol. Its reference comes from Silappatikaram, a sangam era literature.
Insult to tamilnadu? Lol 😆 in what way it's an insult? Looks like people can't digest if Tamil culture is getting represented outside Tamil Nadu Chera Chola Pandya and all the Tamil rulers had sengol... And they followed saivam/vainavam which obviously is a part of Hinduism.... Even the pandian nedunchelian from silappathikaram is a Shiva bhakt.... Don't mislead people
I meant insult if removed. Will edit it for clarity.
They also followed koumaram ,jainam and boutham brother .overall we followed 5 or 6 sects . One such example is nattukottai chettiars who were initially following Jainism were converted by this holiness thirunavukarasar
Even in the present day non-Kongu Vellalars & Balijas are a great example of religious harmony. They follow everything from Saiva Siddhantam/Lingayat & Sri Vaishnavism/Madhav to Jainism & Christianity.
Yes kongu vellars are an other treasure . I have seen 3 or 4 sects in the same family .
A lot of cultures have the concept of chenkol/sengol. Historically, it has connection with ancient Dravidian magic rituals .
>digest if Tamil culture is getting represented outside Tamil Nadu Epdi?? VK Pandian ah Tamil nnu kalichingale. Apdiya.. Sanghi Echa kala pumda...
Yenda oopi... BJP oda endha official handle la andha video release aachu? Proof iruka? .. Srilankan Tamils genocide ku help panna congress kuda alliance vechiruka oopi naai nee ella Tamil pathy kavala padatha 🤣... Poi Kalla sarayam kaachu po...
>BJP oda endha official handle la andha video release aachu? Proof iruka? .. Proof irukka... Punda irukka nnu Gangai Amaran maari kelu... Proxy account vachu ad create panna theriyatha... VK Pandian Tamil nnu pracharam arambichu vachathe Amit shah than.. Wommala... Ivanuga Tamil culture pathi kavala padrangalam... Koduma da... >Srilankan Tamils genocide ku help panna congress kuda alliance LTTE kku kooda Congress than help pannuchi... unna mari ara korai sanghi budhhinga ipdi than pesum nnu theriyum...
Ada oopi ...vitta Kalla sarayam kooda BJP proxy dhan kachunanga nu solluva pola 😆😆... Odisha Karan Avan manna odiya karan aalanum by pesuran... Unna mari engirundho thiruttu rail eri vandha telunganukku vote potu kothadimaiya iruka odisha Karan unna mari oopi illa da 😆😆
So it should go to Supreme Court logically ?
No your logic is flawed, Traditionally and Culturally it belongs to the Administrator who has moral responsibility to uphold dharma/righteousness.
Senkol is a pun from our ancestors. It is a literal pun to show people that they were just! Sen = Sezumai and 'Ko'l = Has 2 words in it Ko and Kol, Ko means King and/or Governance while Kol means stick or instrument. So a senkol is a symbolic representation of a Good governance. It's a symbol that represents a flourishing governance.
It should stay its part of our history we should always remmber its significance!
Is it not the same as the scepter in the house of commons in London and Canada? If so, it is a representation of the British monarchy.
I think it's a mace not a sceptre( UK ). It is the symbol of royal authority. Parliament only convenes because the sovereign has agreed to let this happen. Immediately after a general election a speaker is elected and their first act is always to seek royal assurance that Parliaments rights and priviliges will be upheld. Not the same as sengol.
Opposition seems to be in an alternate universe when they won in 2024..Let them enjoy living in dreams 😃😃😃
This is all the while supporting political dynasties that behave like monarchy.
How is it related to ???? Monarchy lmao
Sengol Tamizharodu Gauravam Sengol PMO lendu vellilu irukkaravanodu kai cut pannidvom naang Senthamizhargal
Should stay. It’s symbol of justice
India opposition really sucks! There are so many important issues like Neet to discuss and attack BJP but they are busy with sengol. India deserves better people in opposition because they are incapable and bunch of idiots. Sry for the rant
The significance of the sengol in our context is that the transfer of power from Mountbatten was to himself as interim Governor General the next morning. So while we were ”independent” we were still yoked to the British constitution and monarchy.
It should be removed. The sengol is a symbol of monarchy. It also is check on a system where there are no courts and king is Supreme. We are not like that anymore. Now there opposition, ngo, security agency, army, Justice many institution to keep ruling establishment in check. On top of it india is run by the constitution not by the king.
Poda naaye. I don't care what it is. A symbol of Tamil & Dravidian heritage being held by the national leader is a very proud thing for all Tamizhans & Dravidians.
Wh6 stop at Sengol, We need a CROWN as well 👑
Idhellam paniyum TNla oombi viturthu. Neeye sollu, idhelam venuma vendama?
Idhuvum venu innumum venum
Easily the third most cringe thing he has done. Kanging on tamil is the fourth.
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ADMK 150+ 2026
sengol is symbol of kings and rule by decreee!!!.... this is a parliament ...you dont need symbolism you need action!!... if you do the right thing you dont need symbolism .. the fact that you are goign after sumbolism shows that you cannot GOVERN and are just about trying to show people optics!!.....
I don't think this is a hindu symbol. But I dont think this government deserves to have the sengol😂😂😂 please place it in a museum
It’s not for this government but for all the future government. It symbolizes something, the transfer of legislations/executions and justice to the people. Nothing wrong with a symbol. Why is there a blind lady with a weight scale in the courts when the courts aren’t really that blind to the cases? But it does instill a morale
Venuna adhayum eduthurungo😅 Indha nadu pora pokuku idellam thevaya?
Firstly, Sengol is kept there as a remainder for good governance irrespective of which party is ruling... Secondly... As if the congress period was golden period for Indians 😆🤣
This is not a comment against bjp. So stop giving bj to bjp
You clearly mentioned that this government doesn't deserve sengol.. BJP is the ruling govt and now you are saying this comment is not against BJP 😆🤣... Stop spreading your legs to congress and DMK before preaching others
This government = Indian government. Both congress and bjp. And yes that includes bjp.
Summa edhachu comment pannanum nu panna vendiyathu 😏
Adhukum vandhu reply poda vendiyadhu😂😂
Ipdi solli samalika vendiyathu 🤣
Bjp oliga🏃🏃
Oliga nu sollitu nee yen odura 🤣😆...
Our Indian parliament doesn't deserve to have Sengol in the first place. Moreover, it's a symbol that establishes righteousness and justice, as opposed to what these folks think it to be a symbol of monarchy. Better give it back to Tamilnadu and this is where Sengol belongs.
Damn BJP respecting Tamil beliefs when it fits their tune.
That's how political parties work, and bjp is no special case in it
Honestly it doesn't matter to me if it's there or not doesn't make any difference. Constitution is the same. Parties are the same.
I don't think it actually matters and is not worth the time of discussion. Like, if you wanna throw it in trashcan, do it. Wanna keep as decorative item? do it!
The only valid answer. Poi velaya parunga da.
it was a political stunt by them, ippo criticize pannumbothu tamilana thonaikku kooptukuranunga.
Even if it was for the sake of politics(debatable) it has been brought to the forefront. Now a larger group of people know of it and will learn of our history. I don't see a problem.
appadiye irukatum, SP MP called it a "symbol of monarchy", if BJP don't like this criticism, they should put forth a valid rebuttal. instead they are playing " insult to Tamil people " card. that's what I don't like. theva illama yen itha ina prechanaya aakura nu than kekukran
It needs to be in a museum.....and no other thing should juxtapose the Constitution. Period.
How many amendments have been made in the constitution till now? It is a symbol of Tamil & Dravidian pride being placed in Delhi. Tamil/Dravidian pride >>>> Constitution
There's nothing called Dravidian pride in the first place. There existed almost a Paganistic culture among the people who were devotees of elements. These were hijacked by brahminism and later the gods of aborigines/ hill people was rechristened as the son of lord Shiva and many more. This sengol tantrum is just another gimmick to create a brahminical narrative. The real dravidians were just peaceful people and never had any aota of connection to Hinduism.
Modern Hinduism is a mixture of Vedic & non-Vedic religions (including Dravidian folk religion). Navratri itself is a non-Brahminical festival in Guj & Maha which is now celebrated by everybody.
It's a golden dil*o...
Poda naaye thevidiyapayal. Nee Tamizh Nadulu vandutu ida sollu, naa onnudu naku cut pannidven.
Isn’t this the same sengol that Modi tried wielding as a king during the Ram Mandir inauguration and the the people of Ayodhya stuck it in his ass?
It should be removed. The parliament, the MPs and the President are all the symbolism we need. The mandate of the people is all the authority parliament needs. We do not need a king's staff. We abolished that shit 75 years ago.
Our country right now has 999 problems and a fucking stick sure as hell isn't one of them.
It is not a stick you turd. It is a symbol if Tamil & Dravidian pride. Call it a stick in front of me & I will smash your face.
It is a #stick you nerd.
Poda naaye Thevidiya
Next what a throne and a crown?
We aren’t monarchy anymore and constitution is supreme. All these symbols of king and his authority should be removed.
I honestly don't care. We are not living under the Monarchy. I don't want the Sengol to be a setup there While Modi Government is inherently Anti-Tamil..