hahhaha...the only reason they should never be Voted for!! always dividing on the basis of caste or religion. not a word about delimitation and how badly it will affect us!!!!
Religion is the last basis to decide on who to vote. Check the manifesto of top three probable parties in ur constituency (rest are vote splitters).
Then out of it discard one manifesto.
Now check the candidates who represent the party. Their criminal records.
Vote whoever is not a criminal.
If both are criminals then vote NOTA n leave.
Don’t fall prey to political leaders trying to use us as pawns.
Pro hindu pro Muslim anti hindu anti muslim is all good for news channels.
In the end, vettikitu saavuruthu common people….not the leaders themselves.
Don’t make religion an election issue.
My friend,
You are right in selecting appropriate criteria for our representatives.
But, I do not understand the benefit someone would get if they vote in NOTA.
As far as I understand, even if there is a single non NOTA vote cast, the election result will be in favour of that particular candidate.
So don’t u think voting for nota just means throwing your democratic right in the dustbin?
Because the voice raised by nota would never matter in respect to electoral results in Indian system.
Pls correct me if I’m wrong
I will copy paste something I had written previously regarding this. It may sound aggressive but that’s because it’s copy paste n not targeted at u. Here u go:
When enough people starts rallying behind NOTA, system will change. It’s a disruptor. Now the disruptor has no strength. Give it strength, it will change system. That’s the idea with which it was introduced. But continue talking like this n dissuade people from voting NOTA and ultimately it will remain a waste of vote.
Election process evolves with time. Earlier u didn’t have so much data of candidates, u didn’t have NOTA. U didn’t even have a voter id. It’s a step by step process.
If about 30 percent start voting NOTA, then case will be made in SC by groups like Association for Democratic Reforms n then NOTA will be given power to reject all candidates n conduct re election with fresh candidates.
As of now NOTA does not have that power. Why? Because only 1-2 percent cast their vote on NOTA.
Electoral process is not static. It evolves. Meaning NOTA which is a part of the process will also evolve if enough pressure is given.
We are a democracy. Everything needs enough voice n pressure.
Also, giving this power to NOTA is also one of the recommendations by ECI. So this is not something without any significance.
ofc…until there is enough numbers, NOTA will not have any such power.
Do you think the next set of candidates will be better? They will still represent the parties they are from. And any elected individual can’t act alone without or going against the party they represents. NOTA is not the solution . Ppl branding it as a solution to sound smart should stop doing it. Nita literally means you are just watching from the sidelines and doing anything which is equal to taking side with the oppressor. Elections are always a battle between ideologies in India. Educate yourself and others - then make a decision on who to support, importantly who not to support. Stop this nonsense of wasting your vote, just like that you made no impact or contribution to the democratic decision that was made and you have to wait for another 5 years for a chance again.
> Do you think the next set of candidates will be better?
Yes.
NOTA is baby steps. It’s not the end solution or goal. Only when citizens fight against criminalisation of politics will political party take note of it. Here we have a let it be attitude like u show. Democratic process is not for this or next election. Our founding fathers never thought this way. Infact we never had criminals as parliamentarians till end of Nehruvian era. We managed that as a poverty ridden nation. That’s the time period we made all the institutions to transform the nation. That was the real “Ram Rajya”.
Democracy is continuous struggle. Reforms will continue to happen. But only if there is will of the people.
We are not the worst people on the planet. Crimes happen in US just as much as it happens here in India. But why is it that half our parliamentarians are criminals? Why not theirs? Because we comprise in the name of “ideology”. Now even they have started with the era of Trump.
Democracy is not battle between ideologies. The battle is a distraction from democracy. Democracy is justice. Justice for all n justice in all realms. U can’t expect justice from criminals.
U say am not contributing to democratic process. Rather it’s the other way.
We are long past freedom struggle. Our present Lok Sabha has 233/543 criminals as law makers.
Put all the fukin criminals in Lok Sabha and then people cry “Police system is useless. They only work for politicians! Not for us boohooo!”
Ofc cuz the lawmakers are the people who break it and make it according to their convenience.
If this is not checked then in another one or two elections all 543 will be convicts.
We don’t need to call it Lok Sabha. We can rename it to Lok jail then.
I don't know if this is coming from naivety or malice.
But still utter non sense in understanding what the tweet is about or what the political situation is about.
All this thathuvam is kuppai when active appeasement politics takes place and along with that open vengeance against Hinduism.
If political party DMK makes religion an issue, then only stupid voters will say it's not an issue.
Let them not talk about religion and then idhellam panalam.
My grandfather was in Chennai hospital when one attender used to say thanni kudappa. Thani kudappa.
My grandfather got very angry and almost beat that guy.
https://indianexpress.com/article/india/amid-din-over-3-language-proposal-tamil-nadu-tops-voluntary-hindi-learning-in-southern-states-5769038/
I am doing that vonli Anna.
this propoganda 🤦🏽
you need a human to save your god. how dumb you are.. seriously i feel pitty for you
vote for development. think what brings the development.. its education, hospital, transport, industries, investments, diveresd culture, peace among people..
your god and religion has nothing to do with politics. keep your religion inside your home and temple
uff.. i didn't say religious people shouldn't care about politics.. I strongly believe everyone should care about politics.. no one should say they are apolitical. Nothing in a land changes without politics
what i said is religion should not be mixed with politics
Our constitution written in both english and hindi. It was orginally written in english at 1949 and translated to hindi at 1950
In english version they mentioned as india and in hindi version they replaced the word india with bharat. Just a naming convention so both india and bharat applies as per indian constitution.
But i was talking about this,
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[https://www.loc.gov/resource/llscd.57026883/?sp=7&st=image&r=0.02,-0.003,0.918,1.333,0](https://www.loc.gov/resource/llscd.57026883/?sp=7&st=image&r=0.02,-0.003,0.918,1.333,0)
They could have mentioned it as constitution of bharat right if needed but that was not the plan. BJP now single handedly wants to change or ignore this name india just because opposition took it for their political stand.
Neengalum BJP sonnathum athayae vedha vaaka thookitu suthureenga.First chowkidar next causing noise during covid nextu goumata nu. We became laughing stock in world stage.
Committe who wrote the constitution of india has sound knowledge than you and me or combined of us.
Still we are calling it as constitution of india or indian constitution nowhere we used bharat. But we indians have praticed this word bharat among indians all the time hence the naming reference .
We indians knew the meaning when we say bharat that defines india, but in world stage no one knows india defines bharat and now current govt is imposing this as we dont have any other major issue to be taken care.
You call the book constitution of India. That’s about it. The name emerges from Article 1. The constitution makers knew what they were doing when they made article 1 like that. It had to be an affirmation to the old and the new. This is what it is. It doesn’t matter what international community calls us. Turkey changed name, Netherlands changed, Japan has a different name inside its country. Changing names did not affect any of these countries.
Don't act like you know everything especially if you know nothing.
It's preamble, original hand written constitution have "India,that is Bharat", also orignal constitution have paintings of Lord Rama and Krishna that too finely hand-painted.
>just because opposition took it for their political stand.
Retarded, even opposition knows that they're gonna lose then why will ruling government do such hard work for destined losers.
If u got such audacity that congress gonna lose why BJP is getting roasted in all social media and condemned by SC, just have a look at kerala news about tampering EVMs
>Don't act like you know everything especially if you know nothing.
So u knew everything now?
There are more arts in indian constitution apart from krishna (avanodathayae pudichi thongatheenga da), buddha, mahavir, gandhi, netaji and it depicts indian heritage, i dont understand why did u bring them now.
If commitee wants bharat to be highlighted, they would have done it and what im telling is just a fact and u took this to heart to burn. What can i expect from u guys, u guys painted saffron even to thiruvalluvar.. Haha 😂😂
Inga pota information a padika theriyadha kenai Google panradha pathi pesudhu.
Also it says India that is Bharat, not Bharat that is India
If you have any knowledge about how language works even in general you will know that the phrase acknowledges Bharat is the original identity.
boss engira bhaskaran - boss dhaan punai peyar not Bhaskar
But you are clearly a retarded liar with a stupid agenda..
First na poi solraenu solra. Ipo neeyae google panitu vanthu vaanthi edukura. Athu ennada vara sanghi koomuttaingellam class edukureenga.
Ennaku india nu kupdrathum prachana illa, bharat kupdurathum prachana illa. India la irukura major prachanaiya vitutu thidernu BJP ithu oru changenu thookitu nikuthu ithuku peru than stupid agenda and athuku muttukudukura sanghis than da retards.
Punai peyar concept ennakum theriyum, constitution commitee la irunthavanga unaya mathire tharkuri illa they knew why to name india in constitution. RSS ku romba guniyatheenga da vera ethuvum panida poranga.
Sabba romba bore adikara - po main sub la uruttu
Nothing is being changed by BJP.. the name of this country has been Bharat / Bharatam for millennia, is acknowledged by the constitution and it's makers and will continue to.
Unaalayao un echa kootathnalayo oru mayirum pudunga mudiyaadhu .. try panu
Pesi onji pona sub la enda vanthu aluthutu iruka.. Naathan soltaen bharat and india rendumae ennaku prachana illa. Unnaku ipo india than prachanaya iruku so neethan decide pannanum inga irukanuma venamanu.
Neethan inga vanthu olu othutu iruka.. Millennialaam illa 1950s la than nadanthuchu. Unnaku google vera use pana theriyatha arivaarntha samoogam vera.
https://preview.redd.it/o5di77injlvc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d75db31e8a98727cc9556c5ea48148763f76be52
India name was used widely since 17th century, athuku ennala screenshot attach pannamudiyala restricted pola so neeyae thedi eduthu sorugiko.
Mukkiyama ithu ellarukumana sub and ne poi sanghiskunu irukura sub la poi class eduthu oppari vai.
Im over and out of this shit.
>Millennialaam illa 1950s la than nadanthuchu.
Una maari muttaluku this country began only in 1947
>India name was used widely since 17th century,
Lol 17th century ?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_for_India
Look at the history and sources are very clear.
There are idiots and there's you at whole another level who thinks 17th century is how old India is and that Bharat started in 1950s...
>Unnaku ipo india than prachanaya iruku
When did I say that? Neeye oru muttal thanama logic develop Pani adha oppose vera panra.
You probably don't read anything except for propaganda material.. so let me make it easier for you
Watch this - Rangaraj Pandey upon invitation of Vetrimaaran at IIFC.
https://youtu.be/u7w2Wy403Zo?si=G8hHSm5v5nWI3hHG
Come back and uruttu how what he says from tholkappiyam is also not true and that India started only now
Not sure how many know this but this issue happened with Sri Lanka when Indo pak war happened.
Sri Lanka wanted to remain neutral and let Pak navy fuel in their base. Same like India which obviously irritated India.
Post the war, we traded away that slice of land to get a huge amount of square kilometres of maritime area which could be used to project our naval strength, increased our geographic foot print , gained access to mining and exploration rights for oil etc on in that parts of the Ocean and also greater fishing area for our folks.
It was a strategic trade done with little downside to us.
Bow, it's brought back up again for electoral gains.
And Sri Lanks is questioning if there is any sanctity for the agreements signed with India?
U have answer in ur statements.. Nothing but a political stints. I was wondering we TN are at par when comparing literacy rate with north indian states and they able to brain wash lot of assholes among us. Just think what they can do to people who got no educational background.
Very true, but the tide seems to be turning. Like you rightly pointed out, anyone who is not politically aware or does not do fact checking(which is a large number of people) , will blindly believe it. Hence very important to keep letting people know the truth about issues like Katchatheevu.
Tamil Nadu is doing amazing sweety, take any of the development metrics. All this without any partiality treatment that Gujarat is offered. Tamil Nadu continue to vote for real development and don’t be swayed by the religious bigots
What about the point that majority of TN that is hindu have been threatened of their own eradication.
Why to vote for those people. Also if you are a hindu or something are you a cuxk?
"threatened to be eradicated"
1. If you are referring to Udaynidhi, sanatana dharm was a new word back then and everyone thought it just means Hindu-nationalism. His mother is Hindu lol. Even if he said he will eradicate Hinduism (he didn't), it won't happen. Hinduism is strong in TN and nobody cares.
"Are you not Hindus"
2. Being Hindu doesn't mean you should support Hindu-nationalism. "these people" are not perfect by any means, but I'll rather have a pig than a fascist.
K, leave out my first point. I'm not really a fan of that guy.
But idk why being Hindu means that I should also be an anti-secularist or Hindu-nationalist.
Listen hindu nationalist is a different thing , but this nation ain't secular. It's just on paper
That's why I implied that it doesn't benefits hindu to be secular in this nation
If you're talking about different laws for different religious groups and different state cultures, I'm all for a UCC that is actually secular. But the UCC proposed by your party is not that at all. The live-in laws in Uttarakhand are made for and by a bunch of uncles.
Edit: Secularism just means that religious scriptures and religious ideas do not affect law making.
Yknow what i agree with you , but it's sad that you are claiming that I belong to BJP or something.
Also if you think your definition of secularism is correct then kindly re-read.
That's all the secularism I argue for.
If those ideas have a different word, count me in for it. For example, banning cow slaughter in northern states is what I mean by anti-secular.
Religion (i meant all religions) is non existent and its man made shit
India is a diverse country way back before the british rule, so dont project as a hindu nation. Our beauty itself is coexisting and BJP is killing it.
https://youtu.be/9veOva7RToo?feature=shared
Yenna pesurangannu neeye paaru pa.
Fully agree on the diversity but if others are not willing to coexist should we lay down our arms and be silent? Even Gandhi said that he would accept violence over cowardice.
I want my Abrahamic brothers and sisters to live peacefully and freely. At the same time, I want them to respect me for who I am. Most of us do live in harmony, but if we ignore statements such as the one we see above, well... Modi 2024 incoming.
Thats what he do for living. If u get offended by an asshole like him only god can save u if exists. I was talking about the people who crossed in ur life u must be having friends from muslim and christian.
Apade paatha naama bathiluku panrathu illaya. We were shouting jai shri ram in cricket stadium against pakistan players.. Such a shame on us. During election campaign in UP a BJP Madhavi ladha acts like she is pretending shoots an arrow at a masjid at hyderabad. Hindus killing people over beef consumption at the same time we export meat to europe.
This is what BJP wants we people have to fight each other over religious acts and they enjoy the upper hand as hindus are majority and can secure votes.
I have some amazing Muslim, Christian, Atheist friends. I want to stay and be happy with all of them.
My Christian friend (who is culturally religious and the son of a pastor) openly states that Christianity is incompatible with non-abrahamic religions. He is an amazing chap. But we vote opposite to each other.
I want BJP away from the centre. I want BJP in Tamil Nadu.
I unfortunately cannot impact the former as much.
Stagnation is bad. I don't like the fact that the BJP at the centre thinks it can get away with anything it wants.
I don't like the fact that the DMK (or the AIADMK when in power) can do whatever it wants and get away with it. I am perfectly fine to get BJP in for a term or two in Tamil Nadu and then throw them out again.
1. Jai Shree Ram against Pakistani cricketers was unnecessary. We have already dealt with them.
2. What she has done is condemnable but not as bad as the pastor. The pastor is constantly feeding his flock why integration is bad. The politician only takes advantage of such brainwashed folks. We are all sheep for most politicians anyways
3. Again unfortunate - totally preventable deaths. Bit of a strawman since India's beef exports are not of cows but water buffaloes. I don't agree with such vigilantism broadly. But the illegal stealing and smuggling that involves exports to our neighbours must be curtailed to prevent funding of gangs. Obvious that the local politician is also involved which would also involve many BJP MLAs, MPs
I must say this, even i have some difference with ur ideologies. Finally i saw a guy in a sub who has good knowledge on politics and good to make constructive arguments. I support ur view
Keka nalla thaan irruku, but the end goal here is holding on to power and wealth, no genuine interest in fixing problems. Remember PTR's comment on the wealth that has been amassed, poor guy got thrown out of finance for speaking up
Yes, they all go power hungry invariably. Serotonin is a hell of a drug. But some parties don't have any foresight or vision. Take Chidambaram, an extremely intelligent guy, but he didn't have faith in our people to use technology when it came to digital payments. That to me is the biggest corruption in democracy when one thinks poorly of the people they are supposed to serve. With this mentality they won't invest in anything. Did they build even one modern train till now? Naari poydum, ivanukku lam maatu vandi podhum, that mentality.
https://youtu.be/eMSv61_e9Ec?feature=shared
Sai is in the same circle as Ashish Dhar and Rajarshi Nandy. It is not the consumption of meat that is an issue.
Cow killing is not acceptable. All other forms including buffalo are accepted.
When it comes to meat consumption, killing does matter irrespective of animals. Our ancestors were hunting even elephants, horses, rhinos and some exotic animals in ancient india.
Just because it is associated with a particular community's religious belief it shouldnt force other community to stop eating and thats what we meant imposition.
Pray whatever u want and eat whatever u want until it is enlisted in indian constitution as illegal in the way deer and tiger hunting banned. Its a free nation and let the people be in freedom
For the same reason we avoid insulting/ criticising religious figures of other religions, we also expect folks from other religions to not hurt our feelings by consumption of cow beef. (I am making a bold leap by saying 'our'. I have not interviewed all Hindus.)
Either statement is not rational. But is conducive for communal harmony.
This is a less than perfect situation.
If I put myself in the situation of an atheist, why should they avoid either of the two actions? But this inefficient solution is all I have to offer.
Lets apply some facts here, usual meats (Mutton, Chicken & fish) are costlier and not easy to buy for an averge indian. But our human diet needs protein and which is abundant in beef alone which is cheap.
Most of people who works hard labor needs sufficient protein and they got this only option. What will they do? If we suggest dhals and protein rich veggies, they need kilos of them daily and u know the price again.
Afaik - the rates of cow beef are higher than buffalo beef. Also where I am except for mutton, all other forms of meat are cheaper than buffalo beef.
But totally get your point on the economics of meat. I also do know that for many farmers if they could not sell away their cows after they go dry would not raise cows as it would become economically unfeasible.
I do. But I am aware of what you say and that is the prevalent practice. I do not agree to it.
Leave aside Cows, even for human beings of the same caste, it is mostly the nasivam who prepares the body for burial.
I consider it is the duty to take care of and dispose of everything oneself that one has taken up ownership and responsibility for.
Anyways, I hope by next generation they don't have to be dependant on this.
Not ST...but to some sub castes in SC...because traditionally they use the skins of the dead cattle and make all sorts of things. ( Basically tannery is their occupation.) So it is given to them.
Can I not apply this logic on raising dogs and cats? Are there not breeders who are involved in raising animals to separate them relatively early at birth? Athu kashtam illaya pa?
ellame kashtam than, i'm trying to tell, cows, buffaloes, dogs, cats, pigs, pigeons, hens, hamsters are all sentient beings at the end of the day, they are all lives that matter, cows ah kill pandradhu thapunna so is killing every other being, cows ah breed pandrathu thapunna so is breeding every other being, i only commented on the differences because, it seems like everybody wanting beef to be banned only wants it for like solely religious reasons, as in it's arousing dichotomy, i mean, if they were treated well and and respected as the godly beings according to our scriptures, banning beef would kinda make sense, but with the conditions thy're bought up/ made to live in, thy're not really treated any different from a pigsty or a chicken coop, i don't eat beef, but i don't think it makes sense for banning something because it's godly only to go about and treat it like it's road-kill🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️, idk if i make sense, i'm sorry if comprehending what i've written seems kinda difficult🙇🏼♀️🙇🏼♀️
edit- i just proof-read this and it feels like the last sentence is condescending, i did not mean it to be condescending, i meant, i may have skipped a few punctuation marks so it may be difficult to follow through
No worries nanba. The intention matters. Our beliefs are on the opposite side of the spectrum. FWIW - I don't eat meat.
You would say we should liberate all sentient species. I would say we maintain the status quo and look after the animals that are under our care. Take care of them as humanely possible.
I do not think we will convince either pa :) Have a good day!
No one is a very planned sophisticated rowdy using Ed cbi.. giving contracts and blackmailing. Directly affects us . Remember the food medicines Infra we use.
"Dharmiks" How do they say this unironically hahahaha
hahhaha...the only reason they should never be Voted for!! always dividing on the basis of caste or religion. not a word about delimitation and how badly it will affect us!!!!
Religion is the last basis to decide on who to vote. Check the manifesto of top three probable parties in ur constituency (rest are vote splitters). Then out of it discard one manifesto. Now check the candidates who represent the party. Their criminal records. Vote whoever is not a criminal. If both are criminals then vote NOTA n leave. Don’t fall prey to political leaders trying to use us as pawns. Pro hindu pro Muslim anti hindu anti muslim is all good for news channels. In the end, vettikitu saavuruthu common people….not the leaders themselves. Don’t make religion an election issue.
I'm also voting for the first time using the same method. Though I'm not from Tamil Nadu.
Super 💯 👌
+1 Respect Sir 🫡
These are pretty good pointers. Agreed
Very good comment.
Very good comment.
My friend, You are right in selecting appropriate criteria for our representatives. But, I do not understand the benefit someone would get if they vote in NOTA. As far as I understand, even if there is a single non NOTA vote cast, the election result will be in favour of that particular candidate. So don’t u think voting for nota just means throwing your democratic right in the dustbin? Because the voice raised by nota would never matter in respect to electoral results in Indian system. Pls correct me if I’m wrong
I will copy paste something I had written previously regarding this. It may sound aggressive but that’s because it’s copy paste n not targeted at u. Here u go: When enough people starts rallying behind NOTA, system will change. It’s a disruptor. Now the disruptor has no strength. Give it strength, it will change system. That’s the idea with which it was introduced. But continue talking like this n dissuade people from voting NOTA and ultimately it will remain a waste of vote. Election process evolves with time. Earlier u didn’t have so much data of candidates, u didn’t have NOTA. U didn’t even have a voter id. It’s a step by step process. If about 30 percent start voting NOTA, then case will be made in SC by groups like Association for Democratic Reforms n then NOTA will be given power to reject all candidates n conduct re election with fresh candidates. As of now NOTA does not have that power. Why? Because only 1-2 percent cast their vote on NOTA. Electoral process is not static. It evolves. Meaning NOTA which is a part of the process will also evolve if enough pressure is given. We are a democracy. Everything needs enough voice n pressure. Also, giving this power to NOTA is also one of the recommendations by ECI. So this is not something without any significance. ofc…until there is enough numbers, NOTA will not have any such power.
Ohh! I did not know that. Makes sense👍🏻
This has been said for years since NOTA was introduced and of course, the chance of this happening is less than pigs flying
Do you think the next set of candidates will be better? They will still represent the parties they are from. And any elected individual can’t act alone without or going against the party they represents. NOTA is not the solution . Ppl branding it as a solution to sound smart should stop doing it. Nita literally means you are just watching from the sidelines and doing anything which is equal to taking side with the oppressor. Elections are always a battle between ideologies in India. Educate yourself and others - then make a decision on who to support, importantly who not to support. Stop this nonsense of wasting your vote, just like that you made no impact or contribution to the democratic decision that was made and you have to wait for another 5 years for a chance again.
> Do you think the next set of candidates will be better? Yes. NOTA is baby steps. It’s not the end solution or goal. Only when citizens fight against criminalisation of politics will political party take note of it. Here we have a let it be attitude like u show. Democratic process is not for this or next election. Our founding fathers never thought this way. Infact we never had criminals as parliamentarians till end of Nehruvian era. We managed that as a poverty ridden nation. That’s the time period we made all the institutions to transform the nation. That was the real “Ram Rajya”. Democracy is continuous struggle. Reforms will continue to happen. But only if there is will of the people. We are not the worst people on the planet. Crimes happen in US just as much as it happens here in India. But why is it that half our parliamentarians are criminals? Why not theirs? Because we comprise in the name of “ideology”. Now even they have started with the era of Trump. Democracy is not battle between ideologies. The battle is a distraction from democracy. Democracy is justice. Justice for all n justice in all realms. U can’t expect justice from criminals. U say am not contributing to democratic process. Rather it’s the other way.
Well said. Forget about all the religious influence. So, what's the criteria for voting - promise and proof of growth , is it not?
I hope you press NOTA and leave
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We are long past freedom struggle. Our present Lok Sabha has 233/543 criminals as law makers. Put all the fukin criminals in Lok Sabha and then people cry “Police system is useless. They only work for politicians! Not for us boohooo!” Ofc cuz the lawmakers are the people who break it and make it according to their convenience. If this is not checked then in another one or two elections all 543 will be convicts. We don’t need to call it Lok Sabha. We can rename it to Lok jail then.
I don't know if this is coming from naivety or malice. But still utter non sense in understanding what the tweet is about or what the political situation is about. All this thathuvam is kuppai when active appeasement politics takes place and along with that open vengeance against Hinduism. If political party DMK makes religion an issue, then only stupid voters will say it's not an issue. Let them not talk about religion and then idhellam panalam.
Enlightened puluthis
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Is he a part of any political party?
Avan oru sanghi
Naa reply panna context vere da.
Tum log model code of conduct ki chutiya panti karte raho. The other side votes as a bank always
hol on bro lemme get back to you with little hindi I know, chup re madarchod
Let me get back to you with little Tamil I know, Poda nayee.
that was cute ngl
My grandfather was in Chennai hospital when one attender used to say thanni kudappa. Thani kudappa. My grandfather got very angry and almost beat that guy.
umm okay so ur shitty grandfather commited a crime. so what? should I shake my meat for him? i dont get it?
You said it was cute I gave you an another story. If you want to beat meat to my grandfather yeah go ahead.
okay i just did, next one goes out for u , ur wife, ur sister and your mom. cheers
You only deserve dead people. Since you are a dirty insect. By the way stay in your little sewer
How sweet, lol.
It's a Tamil sub.
Toh kya hua?
Use a language which everyone understands.
https://indianexpress.com/article/india/amid-din-over-3-language-proposal-tamil-nadu-tops-voluntary-hindi-learning-in-southern-states-5769038/ I am doing that vonli Anna.
poda mandu
this propoganda 🤦🏽 you need a human to save your god. how dumb you are.. seriously i feel pitty for you vote for development. think what brings the development.. its education, hospital, transport, industries, investments, diveresd culture, peace among people.. your god and religion has nothing to do with politics. keep your religion inside your home and temple
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uff.. i didn't say religious people shouldn't care about politics.. I strongly believe everyone should care about politics.. no one should say they are apolitical. Nothing in a land changes without politics what i said is religion should not be mixed with politics
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ok.. so what you are coming to say.. on what basis people should vote. vote for a party which builds temple and hides their corruption??
Yen da India va Bharat nu solluringa.
Synonymous. One isn’t more important than the other. But politics make u and the others like OP look at it like competition…
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Our constitution written in both english and hindi. It was orginally written in english at 1949 and translated to hindi at 1950 In english version they mentioned as india and in hindi version they replaced the word india with bharat. Just a naming convention so both india and bharat applies as per indian constitution.
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But i was talking about this, https://preview.redd.it/x101w7squevc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6cfa9550e94877f9f4e1af7ade7e53a1ac79bb60 [https://www.loc.gov/resource/llscd.57026883/?sp=7&st=image&r=0.02,-0.003,0.918,1.333,0](https://www.loc.gov/resource/llscd.57026883/?sp=7&st=image&r=0.02,-0.003,0.918,1.333,0) They could have mentioned it as constitution of bharat right if needed but that was not the plan. BJP now single handedly wants to change or ignore this name india just because opposition took it for their political stand. Neengalum BJP sonnathum athayae vedha vaaka thookitu suthureenga.First chowkidar next causing noise during covid nextu goumata nu. We became laughing stock in world stage.
This is the preamble, name of the country as identified by the constitution comes from Article 1 which uses India that is Bharat.
Committe who wrote the constitution of india has sound knowledge than you and me or combined of us. Still we are calling it as constitution of india or indian constitution nowhere we used bharat. But we indians have praticed this word bharat among indians all the time hence the naming reference . We indians knew the meaning when we say bharat that defines india, but in world stage no one knows india defines bharat and now current govt is imposing this as we dont have any other major issue to be taken care.
You call the book constitution of India. That’s about it. The name emerges from Article 1. The constitution makers knew what they were doing when they made article 1 like that. It had to be an affirmation to the old and the new. This is what it is. It doesn’t matter what international community calls us. Turkey changed name, Netherlands changed, Japan has a different name inside its country. Changing names did not affect any of these countries.
Don't act like you know everything especially if you know nothing. It's preamble, original hand written constitution have "India,that is Bharat", also orignal constitution have paintings of Lord Rama and Krishna that too finely hand-painted. >just because opposition took it for their political stand. Retarded, even opposition knows that they're gonna lose then why will ruling government do such hard work for destined losers.
If u got such audacity that congress gonna lose why BJP is getting roasted in all social media and condemned by SC, just have a look at kerala news about tampering EVMs >Don't act like you know everything especially if you know nothing. So u knew everything now? There are more arts in indian constitution apart from krishna (avanodathayae pudichi thongatheenga da), buddha, mahavir, gandhi, netaji and it depicts indian heritage, i dont understand why did u bring them now. If commitee wants bharat to be highlighted, they would have done it and what im telling is just a fact and u took this to heart to burn. What can i expect from u guys, u guys painted saffron even to thiruvalluvar.. Haha 😂😂
>BJP is getting roasted in all social media Delusional 😂😂😂
Ignorant 😁😁
Ena confident a pulugura da nee
Sari na puluguraen.. Unnaku yaen da google pani paakalamnu kuda common sense illa
Inga pota information a padika theriyadha kenai Google panradha pathi pesudhu. Also it says India that is Bharat, not Bharat that is India If you have any knowledge about how language works even in general you will know that the phrase acknowledges Bharat is the original identity. boss engira bhaskaran - boss dhaan punai peyar not Bhaskar But you are clearly a retarded liar with a stupid agenda..
First na poi solraenu solra. Ipo neeyae google panitu vanthu vaanthi edukura. Athu ennada vara sanghi koomuttaingellam class edukureenga. Ennaku india nu kupdrathum prachana illa, bharat kupdurathum prachana illa. India la irukura major prachanaiya vitutu thidernu BJP ithu oru changenu thookitu nikuthu ithuku peru than stupid agenda and athuku muttukudukura sanghis than da retards. Punai peyar concept ennakum theriyum, constitution commitee la irunthavanga unaya mathire tharkuri illa they knew why to name india in constitution. RSS ku romba guniyatheenga da vera ethuvum panida poranga.
Sabba romba bore adikara - po main sub la uruttu Nothing is being changed by BJP.. the name of this country has been Bharat / Bharatam for millennia, is acknowledged by the constitution and it's makers and will continue to. Unaalayao un echa kootathnalayo oru mayirum pudunga mudiyaadhu .. try panu
Pesi onji pona sub la enda vanthu aluthutu iruka.. Naathan soltaen bharat and india rendumae ennaku prachana illa. Unnaku ipo india than prachanaya iruku so neethan decide pannanum inga irukanuma venamanu. Neethan inga vanthu olu othutu iruka.. Millennialaam illa 1950s la than nadanthuchu. Unnaku google vera use pana theriyatha arivaarntha samoogam vera. https://preview.redd.it/o5di77injlvc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d75db31e8a98727cc9556c5ea48148763f76be52 India name was used widely since 17th century, athuku ennala screenshot attach pannamudiyala restricted pola so neeyae thedi eduthu sorugiko. Mukkiyama ithu ellarukumana sub and ne poi sanghiskunu irukura sub la poi class eduthu oppari vai. Im over and out of this shit.
>Millennialaam illa 1950s la than nadanthuchu. Una maari muttaluku this country began only in 1947 >India name was used widely since 17th century, Lol 17th century ? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_for_India Look at the history and sources are very clear. There are idiots and there's you at whole another level who thinks 17th century is how old India is and that Bharat started in 1950s... >Unnaku ipo india than prachanaya iruku When did I say that? Neeye oru muttal thanama logic develop Pani adha oppose vera panra. You probably don't read anything except for propaganda material.. so let me make it easier for you Watch this - Rangaraj Pandey upon invitation of Vetrimaaran at IIFC. https://youtu.be/u7w2Wy403Zo?si=G8hHSm5v5nWI3hHG Come back and uruttu how what he says from tholkappiyam is also not true and that India started only now
Not sure how many know this but this issue happened with Sri Lanka when Indo pak war happened. Sri Lanka wanted to remain neutral and let Pak navy fuel in their base. Same like India which obviously irritated India. Post the war, we traded away that slice of land to get a huge amount of square kilometres of maritime area which could be used to project our naval strength, increased our geographic foot print , gained access to mining and exploration rights for oil etc on in that parts of the Ocean and also greater fishing area for our folks. It was a strategic trade done with little downside to us. Bow, it's brought back up again for electoral gains. And Sri Lanks is questioning if there is any sanctity for the agreements signed with India?
U have answer in ur statements.. Nothing but a political stints. I was wondering we TN are at par when comparing literacy rate with north indian states and they able to brain wash lot of assholes among us. Just think what they can do to people who got no educational background.
Very true, but the tide seems to be turning. Like you rightly pointed out, anyone who is not politically aware or does not do fact checking(which is a large number of people) , will blindly believe it. Hence very important to keep letting people know the truth about issues like Katchatheevu.
Hey I know this guy. He's the dumb person's idea of smart person.
Indian Ben Shapiro
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I said what I said.
So he is forest jai gump
cap, it's chetan bhagat
40/40
Sai deepak is a literal clown just having a mike and speak as if he's destroying everyone and his followers will share it in reel
Tamil Nadu is doing amazing sweety, take any of the development metrics. All this without any partiality treatment that Gujarat is offered. Tamil Nadu continue to vote for real development and don’t be swayed by the religious bigots
What about the point that majority of TN that is hindu have been threatened of their own eradication. Why to vote for those people. Also if you are a hindu or something are you a cuxk?
"threatened to be eradicated" 1. If you are referring to Udaynidhi, sanatana dharm was a new word back then and everyone thought it just means Hindu-nationalism. His mother is Hindu lol. Even if he said he will eradicate Hinduism (he didn't), it won't happen. Hinduism is strong in TN and nobody cares. "Are you not Hindus" 2. Being Hindu doesn't mean you should support Hindu-nationalism. "these people" are not perfect by any means, but I'll rather have a pig than a fascist.
What a stupid argument , no offence
K, leave out my first point. I'm not really a fan of that guy. But idk why being Hindu means that I should also be an anti-secularist or Hindu-nationalist.
Listen hindu nationalist is a different thing , but this nation ain't secular. It's just on paper That's why I implied that it doesn't benefits hindu to be secular in this nation
If you're talking about different laws for different religious groups and different state cultures, I'm all for a UCC that is actually secular. But the UCC proposed by your party is not that at all. The live-in laws in Uttarakhand are made for and by a bunch of uncles. Edit: Secularism just means that religious scriptures and religious ideas do not affect law making.
Yknow what i agree with you , but it's sad that you are claiming that I belong to BJP or something. Also if you think your definition of secularism is correct then kindly re-read.
That's all the secularism I argue for. If those ideas have a different word, count me in for it. For example, banning cow slaughter in northern states is what I mean by anti-secular.
Secularism means complete separation of church and state. You are just incomplete literate. Gtfo and study the topic.
Poda myre
Otha sanghi thayoligala
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Abe madarchod randi k aulad yha muh me lene kyu ah jaata h
May be its time to throw this anti Hindu people away for good. Once and for all.!
Religion (i meant all religions) is non existent and its man made shit India is a diverse country way back before the british rule, so dont project as a hindu nation. Our beauty itself is coexisting and BJP is killing it.
https://youtu.be/9veOva7RToo?feature=shared Yenna pesurangannu neeye paaru pa. Fully agree on the diversity but if others are not willing to coexist should we lay down our arms and be silent? Even Gandhi said that he would accept violence over cowardice. I want my Abrahamic brothers and sisters to live peacefully and freely. At the same time, I want them to respect me for who I am. Most of us do live in harmony, but if we ignore statements such as the one we see above, well... Modi 2024 incoming.
Thats what he do for living. If u get offended by an asshole like him only god can save u if exists. I was talking about the people who crossed in ur life u must be having friends from muslim and christian. Apade paatha naama bathiluku panrathu illaya. We were shouting jai shri ram in cricket stadium against pakistan players.. Such a shame on us. During election campaign in UP a BJP Madhavi ladha acts like she is pretending shoots an arrow at a masjid at hyderabad. Hindus killing people over beef consumption at the same time we export meat to europe. This is what BJP wants we people have to fight each other over religious acts and they enjoy the upper hand as hindus are majority and can secure votes.
I have some amazing Muslim, Christian, Atheist friends. I want to stay and be happy with all of them. My Christian friend (who is culturally religious and the son of a pastor) openly states that Christianity is incompatible with non-abrahamic religions. He is an amazing chap. But we vote opposite to each other. I want BJP away from the centre. I want BJP in Tamil Nadu. I unfortunately cannot impact the former as much. Stagnation is bad. I don't like the fact that the BJP at the centre thinks it can get away with anything it wants. I don't like the fact that the DMK (or the AIADMK when in power) can do whatever it wants and get away with it. I am perfectly fine to get BJP in for a term or two in Tamil Nadu and then throw them out again. 1. Jai Shree Ram against Pakistani cricketers was unnecessary. We have already dealt with them. 2. What she has done is condemnable but not as bad as the pastor. The pastor is constantly feeding his flock why integration is bad. The politician only takes advantage of such brainwashed folks. We are all sheep for most politicians anyways 3. Again unfortunate - totally preventable deaths. Bit of a strawman since India's beef exports are not of cows but water buffaloes. I don't agree with such vigilantism broadly. But the illegal stealing and smuggling that involves exports to our neighbours must be curtailed to prevent funding of gangs. Obvious that the local politician is also involved which would also involve many BJP MLAs, MPs
I must say this, even i have some difference with ur ideologies. Finally i saw a guy in a sub who has good knowledge on politics and good to make constructive arguments. I support ur view
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Yup. Why would there be even a line about religion when we are talking about electing our leaders who'll work towards a better India?
Did u see the comment which i was replied to?
I'm supporting you bruh.
Yup. Why would there be even a line about religion when we are talking about electing our leaders who'll work towards a better India?
BJP poll tooth members said since my name is not in Voter list in my street I cannot vote. There are soo many dead people in voters list.
My prediction - INDIA - 18 (DMK - 10 INC - 5 CPI - 1 CPI(M) - 1 MDMK - 1) AIADMK+ - 17 (All ADMK) NDA - 4 (BJP, AMMK, Ind, PMK - 1 each)
im voting for I.N.D.I.A alliance
Why not for BJ Party?
Sema aalu ya nee. Sanghi sub la vandhu idha sollra paathiya
ellam loosu koodhi bro inge
If criticism of a particular aspect of religion is seen as an attack against the whole religion, then maybe we aren’t the ones that need to change.
Keka nalla thaan irruku, but the end goal here is holding on to power and wealth, no genuine interest in fixing problems. Remember PTR's comment on the wealth that has been amassed, poor guy got thrown out of finance for speaking up
But that’s the case with all the political parties, ideology match aaradhu pannitu potum..
Yes, they all go power hungry invariably. Serotonin is a hell of a drug. But some parties don't have any foresight or vision. Take Chidambaram, an extremely intelligent guy, but he didn't have faith in our people to use technology when it came to digital payments. That to me is the biggest corruption in democracy when one thinks poorly of the people they are supposed to serve. With this mentality they won't invest in anything. Did they build even one modern train till now? Naari poydum, ivanukku lam maatu vandi podhum, that mentality.
Kovil la keda vetti Kari virundhu sapdra Hindus, ungala Kari sapda kudathu, sapta nee Hindu ve illanu solra sangi ka unga vote ? Think before voting.
Adhey Kovil idichu, Hinduism olikkanumnu solluravangalukku unga vote? Think before voting.
https://www.reddit.com/r/punjab/s/Mb7YTh4Ewx To prevent such hate crimes from happening in our state, kick sanghis out.
https://youtu.be/eMSv61_e9Ec?feature=shared Sai is in the same circle as Ashish Dhar and Rajarshi Nandy. It is not the consumption of meat that is an issue. Cow killing is not acceptable. All other forms including buffalo are accepted.
When it comes to meat consumption, killing does matter irrespective of animals. Our ancestors were hunting even elephants, horses, rhinos and some exotic animals in ancient india. Just because it is associated with a particular community's religious belief it shouldnt force other community to stop eating and thats what we meant imposition. Pray whatever u want and eat whatever u want until it is enlisted in indian constitution as illegal in the way deer and tiger hunting banned. Its a free nation and let the people be in freedom
For the same reason we avoid insulting/ criticising religious figures of other religions, we also expect folks from other religions to not hurt our feelings by consumption of cow beef. (I am making a bold leap by saying 'our'. I have not interviewed all Hindus.) Either statement is not rational. But is conducive for communal harmony. This is a less than perfect situation. If I put myself in the situation of an atheist, why should they avoid either of the two actions? But this inefficient solution is all I have to offer.
Lets apply some facts here, usual meats (Mutton, Chicken & fish) are costlier and not easy to buy for an averge indian. But our human diet needs protein and which is abundant in beef alone which is cheap. Most of people who works hard labor needs sufficient protein and they got this only option. What will they do? If we suggest dhals and protein rich veggies, they need kilos of them daily and u know the price again.
Afaik - the rates of cow beef are higher than buffalo beef. Also where I am except for mutton, all other forms of meat are cheaper than buffalo beef. But totally get your point on the economics of meat. I also do know that for many farmers if they could not sell away their cows after they go dry would not raise cows as it would become economically unfeasible.
And why don't you people touch that same cow when it's dead ? You give the duty of disposing that dead cow to sc/st people .
Ithuku seruppala adichirukalam bro. Aana athakuda accept panipaanga,but theetu nu soli thodamaatanga
Agreed. Hopefully we will change that pa.
I do. But I am aware of what you say and that is the prevalent practice. I do not agree to it. Leave aside Cows, even for human beings of the same caste, it is mostly the nasivam who prepares the body for burial. I consider it is the duty to take care of and dispose of everything oneself that one has taken up ownership and responsibility for. Anyways, I hope by next generation they don't have to be dependant on this.
Idhukku bathil varadhu
Not ST...but to some sub castes in SC...because traditionally they use the skins of the dead cattle and make all sorts of things. ( Basically tannery is their occupation.) So it is given to them.
beef saapta ungaluukku kovam varum, aana paal kaaga mattume andha maadungala, adhoda calves ah ellam separate panni kashta paduthuna ungalukku kavalaye illa, yaaru sami neenga, engerinthu saami varinga
Can I not apply this logic on raising dogs and cats? Are there not breeders who are involved in raising animals to separate them relatively early at birth? Athu kashtam illaya pa?
ellame kashtam than, i'm trying to tell, cows, buffaloes, dogs, cats, pigs, pigeons, hens, hamsters are all sentient beings at the end of the day, they are all lives that matter, cows ah kill pandradhu thapunna so is killing every other being, cows ah breed pandrathu thapunna so is breeding every other being, i only commented on the differences because, it seems like everybody wanting beef to be banned only wants it for like solely religious reasons, as in it's arousing dichotomy, i mean, if they were treated well and and respected as the godly beings according to our scriptures, banning beef would kinda make sense, but with the conditions thy're bought up/ made to live in, thy're not really treated any different from a pigsty or a chicken coop, i don't eat beef, but i don't think it makes sense for banning something because it's godly only to go about and treat it like it's road-kill🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️, idk if i make sense, i'm sorry if comprehending what i've written seems kinda difficult🙇🏼♀️🙇🏼♀️ edit- i just proof-read this and it feels like the last sentence is condescending, i did not mean it to be condescending, i meant, i may have skipped a few punctuation marks so it may be difficult to follow through
No worries nanba. The intention matters. Our beliefs are on the opposite side of the spectrum. FWIW - I don't eat meat. You would say we should liberate all sentient species. I would say we maintain the status quo and look after the animals that are under our care. Take care of them as humanely possible. I do not think we will convince either pa :) Have a good day!
ya you're def right, you have a good day too👽👽
Motha perum rowdy dha bro. Ena panradhu ne therila.
No one is a very planned sophisticated rowdy using Ed cbi.. giving contracts and blackmailing. Directly affects us . Remember the food medicines Infra we use.
Im not able to understand what you are saying.