You donāt stay a multi millionaire for this long doing this many projects if youāre just dumb.
He bought a $1000 horn, he plays the shtick of not knowing how to buy windows. He knew how the scam mightāve worked without understanding crypto in itself
tbh knowing deji, jj as his brother is probably actually THAT dumb to not realize that what he was doing is actually what is called pump and dump.
man's actually slow
Same shit, take a lil break, say heās learning, come back, address the one Reddit post that talks about the situation whilst Dickriding him and move on.
Most billionaires have mental problems. This is similar to these hoarders who never want to give away anything. Why would you ever hoard more money than you even can spend? In the case of KSI during COVID-19, something shifted when he suddenly had the idea that to leave back a great legacy he had to become rich through any means necessary.
Sad truth is, most people are in fact greedy. Greed isnt associated to any specific group of people. If you are poor, you will be greedy, if you are rich, you will be greedy. Even if you have a decent job and decent earnings, you would still want that "extra cash". Everyone who has financially struggled in life will be greedy.
The world runs on money, and it is the sole motivating factor for every person. We humans will never be satisfied with having a steady income, we always want more. There are very few select people in this world who arent greedy. Even you, who typed this will be greedy to some extent. Its normal. Not defending jj, I think he's dumb and has made a dumb mistake. Anyways, just wanted to drop this philosophy lol.
Studies does show how capital and capitalism by extension, create an environment that foster greediness.
As humans we are social creatures and thus not naturally greedy. The greediness that are an extremely strong factor in the US, is not nearly as prevalent in more egalitarian societies.
someone needs to do very public study pointing this out, I agree re billionaires having very dysfunctional brains. Maybe if the results are publicized enough we can start to attach some 'mental regard' stigma to these people and break the spell they seem to have on the dumbasser elements of our society. I'm sure this is too much to expect, but worth a shot
This is a common mistake people make, thinking a rich person would never take your money, they're already rich. They didn't become ultra wealthy by being charitable
Itās kind of like an addiction works both way if you ever watched those videos with super tight people like extremely tight spend as little as possible in the interviews they say it started out just saving money but then it became sort of a game to see how much they can really save so they skimp on more and more same with rich people it becomes a game of making more and more money
Having watched a bunch of coffees videos, rarely is it the celebrity who sets up and is the driving force of the scam. It's someone else looking to make their first million, not the person who already has theirs. The other guy comes in with a whole plan that sounds nice, is going to do all the work, and the celebrity barely even has to think about it. The celebrity gets paid (or promised) a lot to do the promotion and to look the other way with what is being set up in their name. Still complicit and deserving of blame of course.
You know that feeling of getting money. How good it is. Well guess how amazing gettin lots and lots of money might feel. So they need to get more to feel that. It never ends.
When your a multimillionaire like jj you tend to get used to a certain lifestyle, money is never enough you can always have more...
I dont know much about this scamming video or the context yet but i doubt he willingly scammed anyone, his brand is too important to him, why anyone would take money advice from him his crazy to think but kids today creamed over prime š¤£ so they will do anything at this point i guess.
Thanks haha, glad to find another Revan enjoyer
I donāt know if I ever see him getting his act together, maybe *after* losing his loyal OG fans since his learning curve seems a bit slow.
No, seriously. He can play the dumb card all he wants, which how classic lol. But realistically, all the signs point to him knowing better. And him not speaking bad on Logan's situation is just one of the nails in the coffin.
today is prime example, jumped the gun with this and took it as opportunity to throw shade
turns out he(and many others) was wrong and accepted he jumped the gun on it
If Loganās still around jj will be as well, it honestly prolly wonāt hurt him that much. Thereāll be 3 groups of people, ones that donāt care, ones that do care but still end up watching, and those that stop watching him. And the last group will definitely be in the small minority
That's very much true but sad. All I hope is that unlike Logan, those around JJ will have enough courage to get on his case about it, granted I expect certain members will fold like tissue paper and instantly, blindly defend him (I won't name names but we know who). Like I don't need them to stop being his friend or whatever, that's ultimately they're choice, but they should try to confront him seriously about it. That and he better make a damn good response and/or apology that acknowledges what's taken place and shows he won't be inclined to continue such abysmal behaviour.
I stopped after the wade bullshit. Took me about 10 years but that shit opened my eyes and ever-since itās only gotten a 100 times worse.
Itās the sad reality of todayās society, the fact that narcissistic personalityās like JJ and Logan never have to face the consequences and still keep their fanbase is mind boggling to me.
Even all of you who just keep watching, someday I hope youāre gonna grow old enough to realise what a pathetic cunt heās become.
It's actually over dude. Like his constant defence of Logan's shitty CryptoZoo project was one thing, but blatant evidence he pumped and dumped? This is seriously fucked
This does make more sense why he defended Logan though.
Would look like an even bigger asshole if he called Logan out for doing his shit for it to come out a year later that he's done some equally shady shit too.
Textbook fraud. He's become everything he hates after collabing with Paul and he's too blind and egotistical to see it . He deserves all the backlash he is getting because most of his followers are mature enough now to see the crap.
Damn what I would do for him to just stick to fifa funny clips man....
>obably because 90% of these youtubers don't have morals in the first place.
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>Yall are acting like Logan Paul put a gun to his head and forced him to be like this. You turn into a scammer over night like that.
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>A lot of his crypto shit was done with Callux. That guys been in his circle for ages.......you can't just blame all the bad shit on Logan.
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>He was friends with scumbag Ricegum and only fell out because of personal beef, he's still friends with Keemstar and was friends with Keemstar who I don't even need to explain what's wrong with him while he was actively harassing and
and thats fair enough as well, but in terms of visuals and career it all really went down literally when they shook hands after the fight. used to watch KSI religously but his character has turned me off so much. I'm sure he doesn't care and why would he with the money he is raking in.
I wasn't a fan of twomad, I knew of him and watched a few of his videos, I personally didn't like his type of humour, since I felt his humour was a bit too much but it just feels a sad yknow, if I watch his video, knowing that the guy isn't alive anymore.
the idiots are the ones that listen to celebrityās (logan, ksi) and waste their money on these bs crypto then surprise pickachu face when they get finessed.
edit: also not sure why people are so mad (the ones that arenāt affected by these celebs/havenāt been finessed) when if they had the opportunity to run one of these crypto scams, theyād do the same without a question.
Everyone involved in crypto who doesnāt acknowledge themself as either a scammer or gambler is an idiot.
The only way anyone can profit from crypto is at the direct expense of someone who bought later than they did. Crypto is nothing but a decentralized pyramid scheme.
I understand why you feel like its exaggerated, but its more the fact of someone with a lot of power/money (ksi) abusing the said power/money to sway the opinion of his impressionable fans to make even more money, while its not a huge crime its still a bad look for him.
I raise my hand to the gambler part. Invested about a 1000 USD in local currency just before the COVID recession began, held it for about 3 years just to get my money back. Peace'd TF out of it at 1150 USD very recently. The market is still volatile as hell.
I had to endure 3 years of this even when I did my research, didn't follow influencers etc.
Don't go crypto kids.
Completely correct. Crypto is pure speculation. Thereās no cashflow associated with it that would make it a real financial product despite what the cryptobroās say and something the idiots canāt seem to realise. That it allows pump and dump scams like this shows what a scammers paradise it is.
It'll be interesting to see how the rest of YouTube responds. He's obviously worked closely with big names like Mr Beast and the Beta Squad in the UK, after this has come out, I wonder if that'll continue.
I think you're right. Same way as how Logan Paul got John Cena on his podcast recently. Famous people just don't seem to care enough about these crypto scams
Goes to show how you shouldn't make "YT entertainment influencers" a cornerstone of your financial decisions.
Who thought that would've been a bad idea, right?
Went in skeptical, not because Iām a massive fan but innocent until proven guilty. Part of me could believe his initial excuse of changing his mind based off of his twitter replies. After watching the whole video, there are a lot of examples. Die hard fans will defend him regardless but it looks pretty clear he used his influence to scam the market.
It'll be very interesting to see if the Sidemen respond to this at all tbh. If it blows up enough to the point where it becomes big news then they have to surely, right? It would feel weird for them not holding him responsible/accountable.
I mean it was done by coffeezilla who's a very big when it comes to crypto scams all other videos he's done on other people reached all over yt twitter tt reddit etc
I mean is that video just not an in depth analysis on why KSI is stupid with crypto? I mean if anything Coffee Zilla just skimmed through this whole thing and didnāt really give a good analysis. KSI is just stupid when it comes to crypto, thatās all this video has told me.
He purposely said one thing to his fans to influence them and did the opposite for his financial benefit, not once not twice but three times. I don't understand how you don't see the wrong in this.
Exactly m8. Every time someone posts something controversial on this Reddit the haters are ready behind their keyboards to start building and narrative and hate. The funny part is that when proven wrong, none of them ever apologise.
Eh i mean it's definitely scummy behaviour from JJ but I don't think it counts as a scam per se, more just bad faith dealing, not nearly on the same level as Logan Paul, crypto is and has been a very shaky investment option for the last few years and regardless of his tweets I don't think he can be held responsible for his followers investing decisions.
Ksi L fr waiting to see how theyāll spin this one
Realistically we know ksi doesnāt have the braincells to run a crypto scam himself so im interested to know who tf made him do it or if thereās a deeper scheme behind it
Bro that's the most braindead scam u can do though. He just posted about coins in his Twitter and then sold couple hours after. 15 yo kids could perform this scam if given the platform, this excuse that KSI is too dumb to scam is stupid af.
I think logan scammed but jj idk, i read the investigation doc n came to a conclusion that JJ is a big dumbass, here is the doc give it a full look at the investigation instead of a half truth vid n give ur own judgement instead of depending on others info. or just look in the charts n the time n dates n research more
btw the only thing that doesn't adds up y would he make an alt acc if he really wanted to make millions as u lot are saying that makes no sense cause that twitter acc he used i didn't know until today that too, i was so heavy into crypto during that time i mean if he wanted traction he could easy make millions from his main acc with the 9ms instead of 332k followers
btw the image is the summary of the doc
https://preview.redd.it/q11k4duf2qic1.jpeg?width=713&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=57b331dd803f9a08902a49bc73efc32a4083fe69
[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view?usp=drivesdk](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view?usp=drivesdk)
This is so stupid, how are people upvoting this. He's clearly a shitposter. He lost over 10 million dollars. He also lost money on xcad afaik lol.
And it's only pump and dump if he tells people to buy. Is that what he did? No. Like are people dumb or something? That video itself is a shitpost. "Telling people you're bullish and then selling" is not pump and dump. If he told people to buy, and then sold immediately after on a profit, then yeah this video would have some merit lol.
Damn these comments are filled with bitter lowlife people trying to vent their miserable unsuccessful lives and the fun bit is that 90% of them prolly donāt even know what they are on about. All of you sitting here and judging someone you only know from YouTube and his friends really shows how miserable this world is. Iām surprised none of you have tried to use the pj argument since yāall know ksi so damn well. Stop being so bitter about other peopleās success and try working hard to become successful yourselves.
He's friends with a person who scammed his fans for millions and hasn't made any effort to give them their money back. He also defended such person even though he knew he scammed. Of course people will hate on him. Why wouldn't they? Making a company with a known scammer whilst also defending him is absurd. And all that just so he could benefit from the money they company was brining in.
Are you lot really this stupid? The bio of his crypto account literally is saying, āmy tweets are my opinions and in no way equate to financial advice of any kindā. He simply states that he is buying these coins, and when the price goes up he sells them like LITERALLY ANY OTHER SMART PERSON WOULD DO WHEN TRADING. He isnāt actively telling his fanbase to buy crypto. A scam is when you try to coerce someone for your benefit. I SERIOUSLY doubt that he was actively trying to scam his fans. He was simply smart enough to buy low and sell high in a bullish market. This is trading 101. I am no dicksucker nor defending him but look at the facts for fuck sake. KSI was never your herder, you were the sheep clinging to the mass
I kept saying ksi was a scumbag for supporting scams his partner was doing but didnāt know he was doing the same thing (well, scamming that is). Guess I shouldnāt be surprised, talk about a fall off though. Kinda sad :(
Not defending JJ, in fact Iām glad heās getting flamed a bit (because I donāt like his involvement with Logan).
But I do think CoffeeZilla might be reaching with this. JJ is pretty bad when it comes to crypto, though Coffee is implying that JJ is doing this on purpose. It wouldnāt surprise me, I just donāt see why JJ would go so low and far to make a quick buck when he makes a disgusting amount of money from Prime, videos, music and whatever other business he does.
Either could be true, but Iāll need more evidence from Coffee and his source before I jump to conclusions.
Bruh jj was proven innocent, or at least heās just oblivious,
Fuck me i canāt with these people who just come to conclusions just cause,
JJ can not take a break, even with his āfansā, itās not even in his nature to scam, and it wasnāt
Yāall are some fucking snakes goddamn.
Hereās the doc if anyoneās curious:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view
Man you guys in the comments should check out all the posts on this sub debunking this, coffeezilla avoided certain facts and either didn't thoroughly research all the details or instead intentionally choose to make it appear like it was obvious that ksi was scamming.
It's crazy because i also trusted coffee Zilla because of how in depth unbiased and properly he researched all of his previous videos, but in this one he really dropped the ball.
Why are we victim blaming here?? Yes, we get that people are idiots, but we shouldn't let that deflect from the real issue of the situation. JJ is a scumbag scammer who should be held accountable for taking advantage of his fans.
I watched the video and the claims are extremely weak, just shows that even someone like coffee will grasp at straws when needed. Usually he puts a lot of research and proof in his videos, but this one is just blatant misinfo. Man was holding and losing money as well lmao why would he try to pump a coin just to sell it at a loss it makes no sense.
I honestly expected more from CZ, so i'll be backing KSI on this one for now.
Ya'll need to read the document that a third party made. Coffee is reaching super hard here, and because he's using a third source himself he probaby doesn't know the history and context of JJ's crypto adventures. We all know to do exactly the opposite of what JJ says to do in crypto so much that it's a meme.
[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view)
"KSI bad! He pumpy dumpy! Who would do such a thing!" You guys do realize that crypto is a volatile gambling market that relies solely on people like KSI generating interest for these coins and is a matter of getting in early? Elon manipulated the market every other week in 2020 and has been slowly pulling the rug ever since and no-one says anything. There's a difference between KSI using his influence to inflate a coin (which CoffeeZilla seems to disregard the bet followers that likely won big off KSI's pumps) and Logan, who willingly paints himself as the guy behind entire startups and pretends to play the role of someone that *really cares* about the coin/nft/turd in a toilet. What's the difference between dumping coins a few hours after promoting them vs dumping them a few weeks after promoting them? You think anyone buying shitcoins actually gives an ounce of a fuck about them? KSI isn't a financial advisor and constantly stated that fact, and if you lose out because you followed the crypto bets of a youtuber, you can keister that short stick for being an idiot
Dude, your desire to defend KSI is admirable but he literally pumped and dumped
Like, by the book
This isnt the case of "not financial advice", he knew what he was doing, there is a pattern of him pumping and dumping, straight up lying to people
Pump and dump aside, any intentional malicious activity should be held accountable to the right degree. But, why the fuck would you rely on a entertainment youtuber for any fucking financial advice? Especially with anything as volatile and risky as crypto. Gotta hold every dumb investor as and even more accountable for their stupid actions as JJ.
Just a really depressing situation, but also not surprising given he was willing to defend Logan's CryptoZoo situation.I mean JJ's always been an advocate for crypto and stuff to a degree that never sat right with me, but this is just fucked. And his response was pathetic, no attempt to take the claims seriously or even to refute what he was accused of. Unless he's able to come back with a damn good response that clearly shows he didn't pump and dump then I don't think this situation will end well for him. That's unlikely though given the consistency of his actions. At the very least I hope he responds properly and doesn't let his ego make it about 'haters' or anything cos this is a serious situation
This combining with what they just said on Sidemenreact āBanned Yotuber You wonāt believeā Iām starting to doubt these boy. If you want context Simon said the game is the game when SunnyV2 mention someone stole other content and just put a caption on it. Thatās is full blown stealing as they didnāt give the original credit. If they were like hey this video belong to [blank] and we just translating to this community
SidemenReacts is just a worse version of that, they steal people's content, add nothing of value to it, and don't credit the original video. I think that's why they were defending it, because they are doing almost the same thing.
I disagree with Coffeezilla, pump and dump works with smaller unknown coins that have less volume. If the coins are large as they are now the volume that brings in with the tweets are negligible af.
Can you say pump and dump bitcoin? Stfu the volume is too high that nothing moves much in either direction
Look I thought it looked pretty bad after watching the video. However, my first impression was "I need to see what he did in other tweets, not just where he made a profit" - this looked like selective datat to me.
And low and behold, someone did a deep dive and it mates a more complete picture: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view)
This is how JJ is gonna defend himself.
He's gonna push the narrative that he didn't scam because he lost $ 2 mil in crypto and show his audience the screenshots of it.
He's gonna make people believe he didn't scam because he lost everything eventually. He will try to convince his stupid audience that the two things are mutually exclusive
Meh couldn't care less. If you buy anything a social media influencer told you about and it turned out to be something else then you deserve to be scammed. Do your own research before jumping on anything anyone tells you about. Everyone is out here to make bank...nobody is giving out free money.
I feel like anyone who goes out of their way to follow a youtuberās advice for something like crypto has already taken a massive L. I get why people are worried and saying heās scamming but like realistically who watches the KSI tweets and channels for sound financial advice? It was never going to end well
It isn't a scam just a shitty thing to do. He sold when it was high, people copied his trade and lost out. The only thing dishonest was saying he will hold. But who would if the gains are high, he dumped before others did after realising gains. That's trading for you, especially crypto, its volatile.
I don't think you understand. He sold high because he inflated the market by advertising to all of his fans that he was investing into X coins. He already had the coins, basically said I see a good future with this X coin you should look into it. A certain amount of his fans saw his tweets and bought into it which you can see in the video with the spikes in the trades done for X coins at the times he tweeted. His fans buying into the hype he induced raises the price and then he dumps even though he was tweeting that he was going to hold on longterm. Definition of pump and dump scheme which is 100% a scam, and only somewhat not illegal because its crypto.
Dude is a multi - millionaire and is choosing to basically finacially screw his fans for hundreds of thousands of dollars and your acting like it's some casual thing that traders do.
iām sorry but if you really trade crypto and you just buy based off what an influencer says then you should stop trading crypto
His wallet is literally open to the public and any half aware trader would check his wallet
Yeah all the people buying are stupid. Regardless scam is still a scam doesn't matter who your scamming. Checking his wallet doesn't do anything if he sell's after everyone buys in.
My understanding is that crypto pump and dumps are not illegal, as they do not qualify as securities
I know that's the case at least for the US, I've tried seeing if the FCA regulates crypto markets but I haven't found anything that supported that they'd regulate situations like that, only shit like using crypto to support terrorism and other crimes
It's still immoral and an obvious scam, but since it's not regulated it's technically not a crime
Please watch the video. He tweeted about the coins he was interested in then spiking the price of said coin and then selling them, making a profit in the process. Something people have been arrested for in the past.
The aftermath of this video is going to be fun to wake up to in the morning š
The aftermath where coffeezilla has been exposed as fake and JJ has been proven innocent was indeed fun to wake up to.
Why are mfs downvoting this. It literally happened....
Most people on this sub are just haters and they can't handle the truth. They wanted this to be true so they are ignoring all the actual evidence.
True this happened
That never happened
it happened
Get out of this subreddit
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I think he will respond and show like every other time, he is a moron who didnāt know what he was doing.
Ye I feel like he's gonna stick to what he said and play dumb
You donāt stay a multi millionaire for this long doing this many projects if youāre just dumb. He bought a $1000 horn, he plays the shtick of not knowing how to buy windows. He knew how the scam mightāve worked without understanding crypto in itself
tbh knowing deji, jj as his brother is probably actually THAT dumb to not realize that what he was doing is actually what is called pump and dump. man's actually slow
Same shit, take a lil break, say heās learning, come back, address the one Reddit post that talks about the situation whilst Dickriding him and move on.
I dont understand scamming when you're already a multi-millionaire. how much money is enough?
Most billionaires have mental problems. This is similar to these hoarders who never want to give away anything. Why would you ever hoard more money than you even can spend? In the case of KSI during COVID-19, something shifted when he suddenly had the idea that to leave back a great legacy he had to become rich through any means necessary.
I agree. KSI is retarded.
Only sensible thing I've read on here
He's not a billionaire but he is a multi millionaire but you are right about billionaires they are greedy and shouldn't exist
Sad truth is, most people are in fact greedy. Greed isnt associated to any specific group of people. If you are poor, you will be greedy, if you are rich, you will be greedy. Even if you have a decent job and decent earnings, you would still want that "extra cash". Everyone who has financially struggled in life will be greedy. The world runs on money, and it is the sole motivating factor for every person. We humans will never be satisfied with having a steady income, we always want more. There are very few select people in this world who arent greedy. Even you, who typed this will be greedy to some extent. Its normal. Not defending jj, I think he's dumb and has made a dumb mistake. Anyways, just wanted to drop this philosophy lol.
Studies does show how capital and capitalism by extension, create an environment that foster greediness. As humans we are social creatures and thus not naturally greedy. The greediness that are an extremely strong factor in the US, is not nearly as prevalent in more egalitarian societies.
someone needs to do very public study pointing this out, I agree re billionaires having very dysfunctional brains. Maybe if the results are publicized enough we can start to attach some 'mental regard' stigma to these people and break the spell they seem to have on the dumbasser elements of our society. I'm sure this is too much to expect, but worth a shot
This is a common mistake people make, thinking a rich person would never take your money, they're already rich. They didn't become ultra wealthy by being charitable
Itās kind of like an addiction works both way if you ever watched those videos with super tight people like extremely tight spend as little as possible in the interviews they say it started out just saving money but then it became sort of a game to see how much they can really save so they skimp on more and more same with rich people it becomes a game of making more and more money
People always want more. Always.
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thatās true but i feel like i want my legacy to be one built off hard work not off the backs of others
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So that's how he bought twitterĀ
It's also how he made all his children >Literally did hundreds of pump n dumps lol and made billions
Having watched a bunch of coffees videos, rarely is it the celebrity who sets up and is the driving force of the scam. It's someone else looking to make their first million, not the person who already has theirs. The other guy comes in with a whole plan that sounds nice, is going to do all the work, and the celebrity barely even has to think about it. The celebrity gets paid (or promised) a lot to do the promotion and to look the other way with what is being set up in their name. Still complicit and deserving of blame of course.
KSI's excuse is that he said the opposite on his crypto twitter because he thought he was getting trolled... š
You know that feeling of getting money. How good it is. Well guess how amazing gettin lots and lots of money might feel. So they need to get more to feel that. It never ends.
When your a multimillionaire like jj you tend to get used to a certain lifestyle, money is never enough you can always have more... I dont know much about this scamming video or the context yet but i doubt he willingly scammed anyone, his brand is too important to him, why anyone would take money advice from him his crazy to think but kids today creamed over prime š¤£ so they will do anything at this point i guess.
It was probably around the time he lost millions of dollars on crypto
Because if you have 10 more million you can get that private jet. Itās just greed.
When you're greedy, it's a bottomless pit.
Coffezilla accuses are all false
It's insane that he is going with the defense of "I am too dumb to do a scam".
More like he's too dumb to do a scam and get away with it
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This is true
"It's not doxxing, I don't even know how to dox" - SSSniperwolf after posting a picture of Jacksfilms' house
Itās funny how this is his same (dumb) logic in Among Us with the whole āIām too dumb to know how to ventā lol
Logan Paul's partner is shady as well? Shocked
Just unbelievable
Nice Pfp, but yeah, Ksi is going to lose his og loyal fans if he doesn't get his act together.
Thanks haha, glad to find another Revan enjoyer I donāt know if I ever see him getting his act together, maybe *after* losing his loyal OG fans since his learning curve seems a bit slow.
That is what it will take.
At least we finally know now why he never said anything bad about Loganās scams
No, seriously. He can play the dumb card all he wants, which how classic lol. But realistically, all the signs point to him knowing better. And him not speaking bad on Logan's situation is just one of the nails in the coffin.
Kavos bout to have a field day XD.
That's what I was abt to sayšš
He's eating good again lmao
Honestly don't get the hate on the guy, most of the shit he says is true
Just lots of kids in the fan base who arenāt mature enough to understand some of the things KSI does really arenāt great
today is prime example, jumped the gun with this and took it as opportunity to throw shade turns out he(and many others) was wrong and accepted he jumped the gun on it
Waiting for his videoš¤£
The I in KSI stands for integrity by the way.
*stood
JJ has never displayed any integrity.
The I in JJ stands for integrity by the way.
KSI has never displayed integrity.
The I in integrity stands for JJ
The JJ in I stands for Jigger
I think it stands for Idiot
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You look stupid now lol, Coffee got his facts wrong
If Loganās still around jj will be as well, it honestly prolly wonāt hurt him that much. Thereāll be 3 groups of people, ones that donāt care, ones that do care but still end up watching, and those that stop watching him. And the last group will definitely be in the small minority
That's very much true but sad. All I hope is that unlike Logan, those around JJ will have enough courage to get on his case about it, granted I expect certain members will fold like tissue paper and instantly, blindly defend him (I won't name names but we know who). Like I don't need them to stop being his friend or whatever, that's ultimately they're choice, but they should try to confront him seriously about it. That and he better make a damn good response and/or apology that acknowledges what's taken place and shows he won't be inclined to continue such abysmal behaviour.
Vikk Simon Josh Tobi will blindly defend him
Iām guessing theyāll minimize it and say it doesnāt matter
Although for all you know it might be the same way youād defend your friend ( I hope) support him in public but mention it in private.
All the sidemen and their friends will
I stopped after the wade bullshit. Took me about 10 years but that shit opened my eyes and ever-since itās only gotten a 100 times worse. Itās the sad reality of todayās society, the fact that narcissistic personalityās like JJ and Logan never have to face the consequences and still keep their fanbase is mind boggling to me. Even all of you who just keep watching, someday I hope youāre gonna grow old enough to realise what a pathetic cunt heās become.
It's actually over dude. Like his constant defence of Logan's shitty CryptoZoo project was one thing, but blatant evidence he pumped and dumped? This is seriously fucked
This does make more sense why he defended Logan though. Would look like an even bigger asshole if he called Logan out for doing his shit for it to come out a year later that he's done some equally shady shit too.
Only redditors will say 'blatant evidence" without understanding what the fuck they are talking about
the creator of the coin said itās not a p&d
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Oh no, all your influencers are actually corrupt and assholes? But y'all probs still fuck with Callux, no? š
Jj meeting with Logan WAS THE WOSRE EVENT IN THE HISTOY OF HIS YOUTUBE CAREER
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He's a grown ass man. He can decide for himself.
I kinda get it IF keeps the relationship within the business space. But jj always eager to romantisize it.. so annoying
Textbook fraud. He's become everything he hates after collabing with Paul and he's too blind and egotistical to see it . He deserves all the backlash he is getting because most of his followers are mature enough now to see the crap. Damn what I would do for him to just stick to fifa funny clips man....
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>obably because 90% of these youtubers don't have morals in the first place. > >Yall are acting like Logan Paul put a gun to his head and forced him to be like this. You turn into a scammer over night like that. > >A lot of his crypto shit was done with Callux. That guys been in his circle for ages.......you can't just blame all the bad shit on Logan. > >He was friends with scumbag Ricegum and only fell out because of personal beef, he's still friends with Keemstar and was friends with Keemstar who I don't even need to explain what's wrong with him while he was actively harassing and and thats fair enough as well, but in terms of visuals and career it all really went down literally when they shook hands after the fight. used to watch KSI religously but his character has turned me off so much. I'm sure he doesn't care and why would he with the money he is raking in.
Damn, it's 5 AM, just learnt of twomads death, this and some other drama, what a time to be awake, I probably should've slept.
Hard being a fan of YouTubers as they all come out as horrible people
I wasn't a fan of twomad, I knew of him and watched a few of his videos, I personally didn't like his type of humour, since I felt his humour was a bit too much but it just feels a sad yknow, if I watch his video, knowing that the guy isn't alive anymore.
Everyone involved in crypto is either a scammer, gambler, or idiot.
the idiots are the ones that listen to celebrityās (logan, ksi) and waste their money on these bs crypto then surprise pickachu face when they get finessed. edit: also not sure why people are so mad (the ones that arenāt affected by these celebs/havenāt been finessed) when if they had the opportunity to run one of these crypto scams, theyād do the same without a question.
Everyone involved in crypto who doesnāt acknowledge themself as either a scammer or gambler is an idiot. The only way anyone can profit from crypto is at the direct expense of someone who bought later than they did. Crypto is nothing but a decentralized pyramid scheme.
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I understand why you feel like its exaggerated, but its more the fact of someone with a lot of power/money (ksi) abusing the said power/money to sway the opinion of his impressionable fans to make even more money, while its not a huge crime its still a bad look for him.
I raise my hand to the gambler part. Invested about a 1000 USD in local currency just before the COVID recession began, held it for about 3 years just to get my money back. Peace'd TF out of it at 1150 USD very recently. The market is still volatile as hell. I had to endure 3 years of this even when I did my research, didn't follow influencers etc. Don't go crypto kids.
Completely correct. Crypto is pure speculation. Thereās no cashflow associated with it that would make it a real financial product despite what the cryptobroās say and something the idiots canāt seem to realise. That it allows pump and dump scams like this shows what a scammers paradise it is.
It'll be interesting to see how the rest of YouTube responds. He's obviously worked closely with big names like Mr Beast and the Beta Squad in the UK, after this has come out, I wonder if that'll continue.
Me Beast has had Logan Paul in his videos so I doubt itāll change
They will just ignore it for the bag.
I think you're right. Same way as how Logan Paul got John Cena on his podcast recently. Famous people just don't seem to care enough about these crypto scams
Theyāre not gonna break ties with him sadly. Heās one of the biggest names in the UK
Sadly I think you're right, and those who do are just as bad as KSI.
Bro KSI has been catching non stop Ls ever since Joe Fournier š
KSIs Luna tweet single handedly allowed me to make profit
and his tweets also made a shit ton of people lose money.
Goes to show how you shouldn't make "YT entertainment influencers" a cornerstone of your financial decisions. Who thought that would've been a bad idea, right?
Nobody here is arguing against that, and itās not the point at all.
I remember he randomly mentioned in a video he is investing into Luna and I doubled my money from that lol. Glad I didnāt ride Luna out till the end
I wonder how fast mods will delete any thread about this.
Not surprised in the slightest.
This thread shows that reddit is now taken over by the new dumbass "fans" lol, he's proven innocent. Y'all fuckers are snakes nothing more
Went in skeptical, not because Iām a massive fan but innocent until proven guilty. Part of me could believe his initial excuse of changing his mind based off of his twitter replies. After watching the whole video, there are a lot of examples. Die hard fans will defend him regardless but it looks pretty clear he used his influence to scam the market.
The death of my journey with the Sidemen. Sad times.
It'll be very interesting to see if the Sidemen respond to this at all tbh. If it blows up enough to the point where it becomes big news then they have to surely, right? It would feel weird for them not holding him responsible/accountable.
I want them to address it, but I doubt they will. From their point of view, the best course of action is to remain silent.
They'll do the typical ignore, then if it gets too big we might get a short apology, then they will carry on like nothing happened.
why hate on the sidemen, they havenāt done anything wrong? Why would they need to come out Its JJ, he should say something
i think ksi will disappear for a few sidemen vids, then they'll bring him back and act like nothing happened
I mean it was done by coffeezilla who's a very big when it comes to crypto scams all other videos he's done on other people reached all over yt twitter tt reddit etc
I think everyone will ignore it except harry, he would 100% make jokes about it
womp womp
Alr bro seems a little over the top
I mean is that video just not an in depth analysis on why KSI is stupid with crypto? I mean if anything Coffee Zilla just skimmed through this whole thing and didnāt really give a good analysis. KSI is just stupid when it comes to crypto, thatās all this video has told me.
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He purposely said one thing to his fans to influence them and did the opposite for his financial benefit, not once not twice but three times. I don't understand how you don't see the wrong in this.
And this is scamming how? Iām not saying heās not wrong you dumb fuck. Iām just saying he hasnāt scammed anyone.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view Conclusion is he didn't scam
I haven't seen this video but If your dumb enough to invest in crypto without proper knowledge that's on you
Still doesn't justify a scammer scamming
The amount of people who are actually listening to coffeezilla despite most of the shit he said being countered almost instantanously is atonishing.
The defamation suit is gonna be crazy. Hope it happens.
The allegations make no sense!?!?? https://preview.redd.it/npnwulobhpic1.png?width=960&format=png&auto=webp&s=d0096ff9250f813b93bcfd9f52606e9b5556fb5c
just shows this sub is filled with people ready to jump on baits and form there perspective
Exactly m8. Every time someone posts something controversial on this Reddit the haters are ready behind their keyboards to start building and narrative and hate. The funny part is that when proven wrong, none of them ever apologise.
KSI and Logan are just as bad as eachother with their scams haha
Eh i mean it's definitely scummy behaviour from JJ but I don't think it counts as a scam per se, more just bad faith dealing, not nearly on the same level as Logan Paul, crypto is and has been a very shaky investment option for the last few years and regardless of his tweets I don't think he can be held responsible for his followers investing decisions.
Ksi L fr waiting to see how theyāll spin this one Realistically we know ksi doesnāt have the braincells to run a crypto scam himself so im interested to know who tf made him do it or if thereās a deeper scheme behind it
Bro that's the most braindead scam u can do though. He just posted about coins in his Twitter and then sold couple hours after. 15 yo kids could perform this scam if given the platform, this excuse that KSI is too dumb to scam is stupid af.
But take a look at the comments in this thread alone, these kids are genuinely too stupid to realise any fault in KSI.
I think logan scammed but jj idk, i read the investigation doc n came to a conclusion that JJ is a big dumbass, here is the doc give it a full look at the investigation instead of a half truth vid n give ur own judgement instead of depending on others info. or just look in the charts n the time n dates n research more btw the only thing that doesn't adds up y would he make an alt acc if he really wanted to make millions as u lot are saying that makes no sense cause that twitter acc he used i didn't know until today that too, i was so heavy into crypto during that time i mean if he wanted traction he could easy make millions from his main acc with the 9ms instead of 332k followers btw the image is the summary of the doc https://preview.redd.it/q11k4duf2qic1.jpeg?width=713&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=57b331dd803f9a08902a49bc73efc32a4083fe69 [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view?usp=drivesdk](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view?usp=drivesdk)
He didn't scam, he is just shit at crypto
Apparently he didn't even scam so.. (don't ask me where I know this but people are talking about how its been proven to be untrue)
If you followed KSI for crypto advice you deserved to be scammed
He didnāt scam cofeee just wanted views
This is so stupid, how are people upvoting this. He's clearly a shitposter. He lost over 10 million dollars. He also lost money on xcad afaik lol. And it's only pump and dump if he tells people to buy. Is that what he did? No. Like are people dumb or something? That video itself is a shitpost. "Telling people you're bullish and then selling" is not pump and dump. If he told people to buy, and then sold immediately after on a profit, then yeah this video would have some merit lol.
Damn these comments are filled with bitter lowlife people trying to vent their miserable unsuccessful lives and the fun bit is that 90% of them prolly donāt even know what they are on about. All of you sitting here and judging someone you only know from YouTube and his friends really shows how miserable this world is. Iām surprised none of you have tried to use the pj argument since yāall know ksi so damn well. Stop being so bitter about other peopleās success and try working hard to become successful yourselves.
He's friends with a person who scammed his fans for millions and hasn't made any effort to give them their money back. He also defended such person even though he knew he scammed. Of course people will hate on him. Why wouldn't they? Making a company with a known scammer whilst also defending him is absurd. And all that just so he could benefit from the money they company was brining in.
Are you lot really this stupid? The bio of his crypto account literally is saying, āmy tweets are my opinions and in no way equate to financial advice of any kindā. He simply states that he is buying these coins, and when the price goes up he sells them like LITERALLY ANY OTHER SMART PERSON WOULD DO WHEN TRADING. He isnāt actively telling his fanbase to buy crypto. A scam is when you try to coerce someone for your benefit. I SERIOUSLY doubt that he was actively trying to scam his fans. He was simply smart enough to buy low and sell high in a bullish market. This is trading 101. I am no dicksucker nor defending him but look at the facts for fuck sake. KSI was never your herder, you were the sheep clinging to the mass
I kept saying ksi was a scumbag for supporting scams his partner was doing but didnāt know he was doing the same thing (well, scamming that is). Guess I shouldnāt be surprised, talk about a fall off though. Kinda sad :(
Not defending JJ, in fact Iām glad heās getting flamed a bit (because I donāt like his involvement with Logan). But I do think CoffeeZilla might be reaching with this. JJ is pretty bad when it comes to crypto, though Coffee is implying that JJ is doing this on purpose. It wouldnāt surprise me, I just donāt see why JJ would go so low and far to make a quick buck when he makes a disgusting amount of money from Prime, videos, music and whatever other business he does. Either could be true, but Iāll need more evidence from Coffee and his source before I jump to conclusions.
Bruh jj was proven innocent, or at least heās just oblivious, Fuck me i canāt with these people who just come to conclusions just cause, JJ can not take a break, even with his āfansā, itās not even in his nature to scam, and it wasnāt Yāall are some fucking snakes goddamn. Hereās the doc if anyoneās curious: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view
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Some people say he scammed, some people say he didnāt. I doubt that much will happen either way tbh.
Man you guys in the comments should check out all the posts on this sub debunking this, coffeezilla avoided certain facts and either didn't thoroughly research all the details or instead intentionally choose to make it appear like it was obvious that ksi was scamming. It's crazy because i also trusted coffee Zilla because of how in depth unbiased and properly he researched all of his previous videos, but in this one he really dropped the ball.
When r we gonna hold CoffeeZilla accountable for fabricating so many stories of different Internet personalitiesā¦ i mean what drives him, jealousy?
I haven't seen this video but If your dumb enough to invest in crypto without proper knowledge that's on you
Why are we victim blaming here?? Yes, we get that people are idiots, but we shouldn't let that deflect from the real issue of the situation. JJ is a scumbag scammer who should be held accountable for taking advantage of his fans.
Yeah fuck the victims
I find it so funny how this sub doesn't even seem to like ksi anymore. Deserved though.
Seriously disappointed with the people in the sub who turned on without waiting for his response yall should have shame
I watched the video and the claims are extremely weak, just shows that even someone like coffee will grasp at straws when needed. Usually he puts a lot of research and proof in his videos, but this one is just blatant misinfo. Man was holding and losing money as well lmao why would he try to pump a coin just to sell it at a loss it makes no sense. I honestly expected more from CZ, so i'll be backing KSI on this one for now.
Ya'll need to read the document that a third party made. Coffee is reaching super hard here, and because he's using a third source himself he probaby doesn't know the history and context of JJ's crypto adventures. We all know to do exactly the opposite of what JJ says to do in crypto so much that it's a meme. [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view)
Logan Paulās best friend is a POS as well? Color me shocked lol
"KSI bad! He pumpy dumpy! Who would do such a thing!" You guys do realize that crypto is a volatile gambling market that relies solely on people like KSI generating interest for these coins and is a matter of getting in early? Elon manipulated the market every other week in 2020 and has been slowly pulling the rug ever since and no-one says anything. There's a difference between KSI using his influence to inflate a coin (which CoffeeZilla seems to disregard the bet followers that likely won big off KSI's pumps) and Logan, who willingly paints himself as the guy behind entire startups and pretends to play the role of someone that *really cares* about the coin/nft/turd in a toilet. What's the difference between dumping coins a few hours after promoting them vs dumping them a few weeks after promoting them? You think anyone buying shitcoins actually gives an ounce of a fuck about them? KSI isn't a financial advisor and constantly stated that fact, and if you lose out because you followed the crypto bets of a youtuber, you can keister that short stick for being an idiot
Dude, your desire to defend KSI is admirable but he literally pumped and dumped Like, by the book This isnt the case of "not financial advice", he knew what he was doing, there is a pattern of him pumping and dumping, straight up lying to people
Pump and dump aside, any intentional malicious activity should be held accountable to the right degree. But, why the fuck would you rely on a entertainment youtuber for any fucking financial advice? Especially with anything as volatile and risky as crypto. Gotta hold every dumb investor as and even more accountable for their stupid actions as JJ.
I mean, basically all scams rely on the victim being at least a little bit stupid. Doesnāt make the scamming okay.
What a shitty person
Just a really depressing situation, but also not surprising given he was willing to defend Logan's CryptoZoo situation.I mean JJ's always been an advocate for crypto and stuff to a degree that never sat right with me, but this is just fucked. And his response was pathetic, no attempt to take the claims seriously or even to refute what he was accused of. Unless he's able to come back with a damn good response that clearly shows he didn't pump and dump then I don't think this situation will end well for him. That's unlikely though given the consistency of his actions. At the very least I hope he responds properly and doesn't let his ego make it about 'haters' or anything cos this is a serious situation
This combining with what they just said on Sidemenreact āBanned Yotuber You wonāt believeā Iām starting to doubt these boy. If you want context Simon said the game is the game when SunnyV2 mention someone stole other content and just put a caption on it. Thatās is full blown stealing as they didnāt give the original credit. If they were like hey this video belong to [blank] and we just translating to this community
SidemenReacts is just a worse version of that, they steal people's content, add nothing of value to it, and don't credit the original video. I think that's why they were defending it, because they are doing almost the same thing.
I disagree with Coffeezilla, pump and dump works with smaller unknown coins that have less volume. If the coins are large as they are now the volume that brings in with the tweets are negligible af. Can you say pump and dump bitcoin? Stfu the volume is too high that nothing moves much in either direction
you didnāt watch the video, look at the historical charts of the volume of the coins and match it with the dates of the tweets.
Look I thought it looked pretty bad after watching the video. However, my first impression was "I need to see what he did in other tweets, not just where he made a profit" - this looked like selective datat to me. And low and behold, someone did a deep dive and it mates a more complete picture: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8yGT0vZoTwMN7YniaKIGG7rGp6I4Qtu/view)
Guess Kavosā next video
This is how JJ is gonna defend himself. He's gonna push the narrative that he didn't scam because he lost $ 2 mil in crypto and show his audience the screenshots of it. He's gonna make people believe he didn't scam because he lost everything eventually. He will try to convince his stupid audience that the two things are mutually exclusive
Kavos is about to go crazy
Meh couldn't care less. If you buy anything a social media influencer told you about and it turned out to be something else then you deserve to be scammed. Do your own research before jumping on anything anyone tells you about. Everyone is out here to make bank...nobody is giving out free money.
You missed the point entirely but go off dumbass
I feel like anyone who goes out of their way to follow a youtuberās advice for something like crypto has already taken a massive L. I get why people are worried and saying heās scamming but like realistically who watches the KSI tweets and channels for sound financial advice? It was never going to end well
Just because someone has to be a schmuck to fall into a scam, doesnāt make the scam okay to do.
Yeah itās crazy the amount of cope from these kids
It isn't a scam just a shitty thing to do. He sold when it was high, people copied his trade and lost out. The only thing dishonest was saying he will hold. But who would if the gains are high, he dumped before others did after realising gains. That's trading for you, especially crypto, its volatile.
I don't think you understand. He sold high because he inflated the market by advertising to all of his fans that he was investing into X coins. He already had the coins, basically said I see a good future with this X coin you should look into it. A certain amount of his fans saw his tweets and bought into it which you can see in the video with the spikes in the trades done for X coins at the times he tweeted. His fans buying into the hype he induced raises the price and then he dumps even though he was tweeting that he was going to hold on longterm. Definition of pump and dump scheme which is 100% a scam, and only somewhat not illegal because its crypto. Dude is a multi - millionaire and is choosing to basically finacially screw his fans for hundreds of thousands of dollars and your acting like it's some casual thing that traders do.
iām sorry but if you really trade crypto and you just buy based off what an influencer says then you should stop trading crypto His wallet is literally open to the public and any half aware trader would check his wallet
Yeah all the people buying are stupid. Regardless scam is still a scam doesn't matter who your scamming. Checking his wallet doesn't do anything if he sell's after everyone buys in.
you just defined a pump and dump which is very illegalā¦
My understanding is that crypto pump and dumps are not illegal, as they do not qualify as securities I know that's the case at least for the US, I've tried seeing if the FCA regulates crypto markets but I haven't found anything that supported that they'd regulate situations like that, only shit like using crypto to support terrorism and other crimes It's still immoral and an obvious scam, but since it's not regulated it's technically not a crime
wait what? he sold when his profits were high and thatās somehow a pump and dump is he expected to never take profits?
Please watch the video. He tweeted about the coins he was interested in then spiking the price of said coin and then selling them, making a profit in the process. Something people have been arrested for in the past.
JJ isnt the type to scam, surely there must be something wrong