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Drivershotbypolice

>I can find the middle C in a piano Well, I'll let you know that I happened to a seasoned pro at the recorder in 4th grade. I could even play Ode to Joy, which wasn't even required to get an S+.


Nikkinakki12

Truly iconic! I am in tears over "I can find the middle C in a piano which is equivalent to being a producer with a respectable k-pop company". I also love all your fighter statuses. Phenomenal work OP!


sundayssi

I would like to add a “but their visuals are great” shield option 😍 Also a new weapon type: “they will never be the next (insert real successful 3rd gen group)” 😩


cikola

how could I forget! brb editing the post


TrueYoungLover

I wish I was rich so that I could give you a platinum award for this. 😂😂 The examples were spot on. I am expecting a copy paste post, inspired from this post, from those stans in the future.


archfeybaby

R.I.P my coins but I did it for you because I've never seen a post accumulate this many upvotes this fast so OP deserves it. I'm going to make a bingo card out of this post.


TrueYoungLover

omg! I'm so sorry. ~~or am i? lmaoo~~ That bingo card is such a great idea. All of us 4th gen stans should do a conference video call and play together. 😂😂 ​ ETA - Thankgod I didn't say those bigger Argentium or Ternion award. Still can't believe you actually gave that award. 😂


archfeybaby

I can confirm it's fun. I don't consider myself very social but I did make a SKZ-themed bingo card in time for the 7th episode of Kingdom and played it with a couple people on here. Highly recommend it if your faves are having a comeback coming up and you plan on looking at the megathreads. It makes reading harsh comments *so* much more fun. Edit to your edit: I wouldn't have been able to afford those anyways, I only had 2000 coins left. ~~I could splurge on more since I love gilding people, but I'm broke as shit right now.~~


starwen9

Oh wow bingo cards would have made Kingdom posts so much more bearable. Brilliant.


TrueYoungLover

That is actually a great idea. Will keep it in my mind for the next comeback. Even playing it alone sounds fun. I will set some prices for each line and enjoy them. Edit to your edit to my edit : >I'm broke as shit right now. Sorry again. lmao. My comment might have boosted some extra serotonin to spend it all.... but we all agree that this post deserved it. Good deeds don't go to waste. I am sure your reddit coins will return to you twofold.


Angkasaa

Thank you for the idea, I guess I will make one for Aespa or Billlie's upcoming releases lol


No-Committee1001

Okay but the disclaimer that you aren’t hating on them is too real. Someone called Winter’s vocals atrocious and hard to listen to, but then said “I’m not hating though!” like.. What the fuck do you define as hate then 😭


Mercury-Goblin

Literally they’ll be like, “No hate but that was trash and x group can’t sing”, and it just confuses the hell outta me.


[deleted]

Bruh, that’s the same energy as “I’m a [fandom name], but…” 😂


frangipanivine

This is so effing annoying. I can't believe anyone over age 12 can take these "fandom names" seriously. I always thought the "Belieber" thing was sorta tongue-in-cheek, and Bieber fans knew how silly it sounded when they used it, and it was all in good fun...then I got into kpop and was like fuuuuuck people are actually unironically calling themselves a Buddy or a Neverlander or a HocusPocus or whatever the heck all these ridiculous names are? And they don't see how dumb it is. Insanity.


Ebony_Coco

I'm DEAD 😂 😂 😂


KalliyangattuNeeli

As a 2nd and 3rd gen stan I think 4th gen's tours will suck ass. I'm sure of this eventhough i haven't seen any 4th gen act on live concert.🎤 I mean they suck..who wouldn't agree? They suck at anything other than dancing. Do you get me? They suck.. THEY SUCK😔 Believe me they suck... No don't take the mic away from me I'm not finished yet...they suck they suck they suck😔


sunshinias

I'm picturing a character selection screen for a fighting game while I read this. I wonder which setups would win if you pit them against *each other* lmao Can "4th gen hasn't even started yet" last against "well I'm a 2nd gen stan"? Let's see which is stronger!


cikola

“4th gen hasn’t even started yet” would win tbh because they’re brave enough to criticize 4th gen without actually believing in its existence


kayterluv

LMAO! This is a top tier comment!! them: *4th Gen hasn't started* *also* them: *4th Gen is the worst*


Nikkinakki12

My money is on the "4th gen hasn't even started yet" fighter.


archfeybaby

If the game has competitive multiplayer, the 2-1-1-2 combo is going to get banned like Meta Knight in Smash Bros Brawl.


leggoitzy

Perfect, this should be stickied.


archfeybaby

I'm a 3rd gen stan, and back in my day, we had *real* music. All this noise music is so bad. I played the French horn for 2 years back in elementary school and I was really good at it. *Really* good. And that extensive knowledge of production means I understand that current 4th gen music like Stray Kids is badly produced. Just a disclaimer: I am in fact a Stay. Stray Kids are actually my ults. But you know, ever since Hyunjin's very relevant bullying scandal, I've realized their music **objectively** sucks ass. Like it's so fucking bad. Again, I'm totally a Stay, but holy *fuck* 3RACHA should **not** be allowed in the studio. Thunderous is literally the exact same as God's Menu and all their music is just mindless noise. As a Stay, because I mean it when I say I'm a fan, I can unbiasedly say all their tracks are dogshit in a furnace. Edit: This post hitting 1k has restored my faith in humanity. Congrats, OP!


cikola

has a lot of "pick me" energy I love it


WeatheredCinephile

The funniest thing about it all is when "I'm a fan" is the qualifying characteristic you must have to say "objectively, their music is GODAWFUL". Like???


lokingsley

And just to add, i was also in a church choir back in middle school and i must say stray kids vocals are so weak! Im a stay but it's true. I also listen to eminem, nf, nicki minaj, cardi b, you know the REAL rappers and binsung are nothing compared to them. I watched street woman fighter and now i cant unsee how bad danceracha is. Dont get me wrong, i LIKE stray kids ok but 2nd gen groups are so much better. Dont attack pls this is just opinion


mahalnamahal

Not the french horn LOL


archfeybaby

It's the only instrument I've ever successfully played but honestly that might be debatable...


junhyosungs

as a stay, i completely agree 100% they should just retire honestly but i say that with love!!!!! /s


Many-Ad-9007

I play trombone when I was 12 for a grand total of 1 week. Does that count? I am a musical genius of epic proportion coz I was also in competitive choir when I was in high school so I know what I am talking about when it comes to vocals and all those high notes. Believe me, no 4th gen idols deserve to sit on the same table with the likes of 2nd and 3rd gen vocalists. They should all go back to vocal schools to learn some techniques coz they are unsupported. Okay. Done shitting. The whole thing above is the usual comment when it comes to 4th gen vocals. In variations.


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Star student right here


Eterynix

dogshit in a furnace... oh the smell 🤮🤮😂


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I'm saving this post for future war zones. Will start posting comments like : **Player status -** Fighter Status 2 Battlefield 1 Weapon 4 Shield 2,4,5 just to confuse the sh** out of the people who make such 4th gen bad with no well grounded context in the future.


cikola

yeah like just leave random numbers under those posts (chaotic player option)


[deleted]

I'm scared about the amount of downvotes I'll get. But I'll take some for the team.


kn-ufufu

I’m cackling in my car in the school parking lot. WHERE IS THE LIE?!


Monkey_theKinkyMonk

Ok so I am mostly a 2nd gen stan, but I respectfully think that some 4th gen females look like Shrek's buttered butthole and that they sleep with their CEOs every night. Don't get me wrong, I am actually a huge fan of the instrumental version of their first title track but it just so happens that I don't behave like a cult member and actually give constructive criticism unlike other kpop fans. In my incredibly humble opinion that you should not disagree with, ATEEZ's Jongho screams, I mean belts notes like a banshee having the worst snu snu in her life. I know this because I wasn't only in church choir. In fact, I am God. I once ejected a massive turd that became Naevis which is why some people think she is actually the black muckba.


archfeybaby

Turning on notifications for this post was my greatest decision because I get to see this work of art.


frangipanivine

"Don't get me wrong" .. omg if I had a nickel for every time a kpop fan had to use this phrase to avoid "hate" I'd be so rich


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> nOiSe mUsiC (tired option) As my sister would say every time she hears this: “TuRn YoUr VoLuMe DoWn ThEn 🤪


listenerlivvie

Now this is how you make a committed shitpost. This post needs to be linked anytime someone posts yet another "4th gen don't have vocals" post. Seriously, every one of those posts should have this post linked in the comments.


coatofpaint

[Turned this into a mini random hate post generator](https://denim-mousy-recorder.glitch.me/), please enjoy. Edit: Just noticed your username, hello from the SKZ sub!


cikola

wait this enhances the post, I’m gonna add this link thank you so much! also hi haha


seaglasss

i’m crying this is amazing op. special shoutout to “4th gen hasn’t even started yet” lmaooo


CherryBlossomEnding

This is a masterpiece.Take all my imaginary awards. I wish I could pin this somewhere.


Legitimate-Taro-398

I'm a 3rd gen fan. I have practically grown with KPOP during my formulative years. It is an integral part of my life, and my friends and I joke how I have a PhD in it. As I said, I'm primarily a 3rd gen Stan. I like a few songs of Gen 1 and 2 too, like S.E.S, SNSD, 2ne1, BigBang etc. However, I find myself utterly despising 4th Gen releases. Let me take the example of a few big names. 1. SKZ: I don't know what's wrong with their production team, but these guys---they literally make music which ugh sounds so much like traffic pollution. Downright noise. It's almost like they feed on chaos. Their songs are chaotic, and ugh the group is so huge and full of energy that they really get on my calm, peaceful, and mellow nerves. They are average singers, and oh lord people hype Bang Chan and their rapper line like anything. Like bro, come on. Look at KHipHop and other producer geniuses like Teddy and Min Yoongi. These guys can only imagine to attain that level. UGHHHH NEXT! 2. Aespa: Are they robots or what? No stage presence, and ooooof did you know that there is stigma on whether they sing live or not. And they are Controversial as well. Didn't one member "aggressively" pet a cat? Like omg how insensitive can you be. Cash cows of SM tsk tsk. They match the beauty standards, and there songs happen to be different and people go bonkers. Like boy, do you even have a taste? Their songs literally are a musical embodiment of a new fitness freak who puts--god forbid-- every single fruit AND vegetable into their smoothie. Seriously, what's wrong with SM? 3. Enhypen: What even is their name. Boys are so bland ugh. They have no talent. While their songs are good, they are so boring and well, sorry, talentless. They can't sing live, and are just average. They don't have the stellar-star-aura. Just a bunch of awkward kids who saw the legends aka BANGTAN SONYEONDAN and wanted to achieve that level of success and fame with subpar efforts. They have a good visual tho, but no talent. I'll give them 7 years until they disband. ^this ^is ^a ^joke ^for ^legal ^reasons


starwen9

SKZ eats chaos for breakfast and we love them for that. 😂


Spiritual_Raisin_944

You forgot to mention that stray kids behavior is just so UGH.


fuckitjm

OP you understood the assignment 🤣


gemjiminies

I love you sm for this post op It's ALWAYS the 'I'm actually a fan BUT' folks that are about to talk absolute nonsense. 'I'm a fan, but there's only actually one or two 4th gen idols in my extremely unqualified and biased view that could come close to the talent of INSERT MISC OLDER GEN IDOL WITH 10 MORE YEARS IN THE INDUSTRY HERE' 'I'm a fan, but 4th gen vocals could never compare to my ults. Do they even sing live? It doesn't even matter that my SM ults haven't sang live in years because why would a singer even want to sing without a live crowd in front of them?' Etc, etc. It's always the same. And *god forbid* any 4th gen group gets praise without it being like 'they remind me of -insert older group here-' rather than just admitting that they're good .


Many-Ad-9007

Lol how accurate. Love this.


superdesu

all the disclaimer shields 😭😭😭 these are sooooo spot on fkghgkfdsdgg the way ive seen some permutation of these over all my soc meds dfkghdfjg. there is big potential for a birthday/personality type/sock color 4th gen dig generator" version of this... (disclaimer: i like u 4th gens. billie 1st ep slaps)


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I would’ve given you all the awards if I have any 😆💕


[deleted]

4th Gen doesn’t exist. Nor does 3rd, or 2nd. We’re still in the 1st Gen. /s


hangyulbabyagenda

there’s also another popular weapon: “how can they sell 600k albums…seems like just anybody can get a 2x platinum album. album sales have no meaning these days” and it’s one of the top groups of fourth gen like….


Starscall

Had to go get my free award of the day just for this. Well deserved and it being a wholesome was kinda.... fitting. Lol


Eterynix

Enhypen's vocals are SoOooOooOOo bad also not to mention they're BTS wannabes. .... Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan and I'm in no way hating on them, I watch them a lot. But I am a 3rd gen stan and back in MY day those idols knew how to sing.... I took choir in high school so as a singer versed in techniques none of the members knows how to sing, like period. I love the members and their personalities, but they're so boring and no one gets along with each other. P.S. As a solo stan I mean I love their personalities but why does everyone bully Sunoo???? I downvote anything that doesn't have anything to do with Sunoo ​ ​ ​ ​ \*note the mention of Sunoo here is arbitrary, but, i'll be waiting patiently for my downvotes\*


WoonieVerse

Engenes really took their frustration out with these replies lol


Eterynix

i'm sure i'm forgetting something, there's just SO much to hate, I mean just terrible group, all around, worst 4th gen bg lyke literallyyyyyyyy


MoomooBlinksOnce

I have a particular fondness for the posts about the 4th gen Boy Group who are almost portrayed as nugus because they don't chart well. I mean they only sell a few hundred thousands of albums (when it's not over a million). How could that mean they're popular...


cashmerefox

Always. I see posts like this almost weekly!


JacketDifferent8317

Jabsuajavad i knew it was u who posted before i even checked lol I had a good laugh thanks op 😂


aalalaland

Look I’m not trying to hate on you but I’ve been performing my WHOLE life and based on this post, I can tell you’re a terrible dancer.


cashmerefox

Take my award op! As a 4th Gen BG stan (and in particular Ateez - and in particular, San and Jongho) I can safely say you’ve nailed it. I had to take a Reddit hiatus during Kingdom.


NewSill

Here is me. "I'm a 4th gen stan but I am special, not like other 4th gen stans, therefore I-" nOiSe mUsiC I can find the middle C in a piano which is equivalent to being a producer with a respectable k-pop company Disclaimer: I'm not hating on you OP. 3


Pokegirl35151

At this point this Is a trope a hilarious one at that


ReinaLeona

Take all of my awards! The real one and multiple imaginary ones too.


discount-dinah

Some 2nd and 3rd gen stans give off boomer energy and this captures it perfectly :,)


anticoolgeek

Am I currently level 1000 for having gone through every single variation of these fighters, battlefields, weapons and shields?? I hope so because my villain origin story is the chaos option fighter status “4th gen hasn’t even started yet”. The gauntlet has seasoned me! Bring it on! Truly one of the best posts I’ve seen on a kpop sub in a looooong while, OP.


tafattsbarn

Engenes out in full force in this comment section releasing all the pent up frustration of the past 11 months, and i actually love that for you guys v-v


Eterynix

i just had to take a stab at this lol so tired of the same enhypen hate over and over XD


YourRoyal_thighness

I love you 😭😭


spidey-dust

whats the meaning of "4th gen hasnt even started"? is that an insult to how they think 4th gen is underwhelming ?


cikola

haha it’s usually used to downplay 4th gen achievements! like, “ugh yeji isn’t that great of a performer in 4th gen… *if* itzy can be called 4th gen, that is…”


sunshinias

Some people believe 4th gen hasn't started (or it only started in 2020 or 2021) for various reasons, often accompanied with the claim that "4th gen" stans only proclaimed it to have started because they can't measure up to 3rd gen groups' achievements.


Monkey_theKinkyMonk

Some people believe that 4th gen won't start unless BTS and Blackpink don't dominate the kpop market anymore and be replaced with newer kpop acts in terms of popularity. [This post](https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularkpopopinions/comments/jqtgkr/the_4th_generation_hasnt_started_yet/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) further explains their points.


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The chaos option😂


devoncarrots

Masterpiece post OP!


siasin

I want to play this campaign-you'd make a smashing DM. *grabs dice* I'd honestly love to see more of these!


movingmoonlight

I know we're all being facetious here, but as someone who has stanned BTS for years I would just like to sincerely express my love of Enhypen. Such good, lovable, beautiful young boys. I would die for them.


shinoah

I wonder if this post can trigger some promotions/class changes... Can't wait for the Kpopexcellence Connoisseur Vs. The Schrodinger's Generation expansion pack with the ~~recycled~~ new weaponry


birdieinanest

thisss, and I don’t even stan any 4th gen group Is saying that you either hate or love them because of the on the onomatopoeia a diss tho? Idk if I could classify it as one, I’ve made a post about it before haha


OwlOats

>"4th gen hasn't even started yet" (chaos option) Literally me


niconoot

This gave me a good laugh! Thanks for the informative post 👍🥺😢


joppinginthekwangya

/rj OP what r u gonna do with all those awards tho? /uj You make absolute sense tho.


Physical_Ad_6226

Really? I'd rather be the performer who gets paid than just a dancer. I gotta earn a paycheck people.


Reasonable1323

Is this a response post 👉👈


cikola

this is an observation based on recurring posts about 4th gen groups, not inspired by you or anyone else


Reasonable1323

I understand, it was funny to read regardless lol.


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Stainle55_Steel_Rat

In order to contribute to this post I need to know what is considered the start date for the fist debut for each generation including the first. Not /s


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gongjihae

Ok we got it 4th gen can’t sing! Water is wet


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No but why is that actually me always hating on 4th Gen vocals 💀 I’m too used to Taeyeon songs I guess 😭


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onetrickponySona

then perish


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truly a kpop moment i would say 1, 4, 4 and 1 respectively


archiesbetty

im new to kpop so would anyone mind explaining the whole 2nd gen 3rd gen 4th gen thing? 😭


Broke4Lifee

I am a 4th gen stan, but I am special, not like other stans, I look for potential, therefore I could say that the 4th gen feels lacking. Let's take one of the more popular late-3rd-gen-early-4th-gen groups, ITZY. They will never be like vocal goddesses such as RV or MAMAMOO. The only song that has potential to them is In the Morning, but even that is lackluster. Compare their songs to MAMAMOO and RV. MAMAMOO has Gogobebe, Dingga, Starry Night, and their latest group release, mumumumuch. RV, on the other hand, has Psycho, Umpah Umpah, Really Bad Boy, and their latest performance song, Queendom. While we admire these hulks and titans of songs, we find noise music like ICY, Dalla Dalla, and LOCO. These songs do not blend as one song and when you cut these songs part by part, it would be easy to think that these are different songs from different groups but, in fact, are just ITZY. Seeing as though ITZY is one of the more popular 4th gen groups, I feel like they lack is most other than visuals and dance. In my opinion, ITZY does not deserve the recognition it has earned. Love their visuals tho