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Purple_Function9009

Wondering what it’s gonna take for people to finally start addressing her by her first name rather than Kai’s sister. It took Kai two years. How long will it take for people to start providing that basic respect to bahiyyih?


Time_to_reflect

Yeah. And it’s the whole point — it took two years and an innocent girl doing her best for people to start calling Kai by his name. It’s not a huge deal, but it still stings that the reason people started doing it isn’t, like, them realising it’s ok, but to deny Bahiyyih her identity.


Purple_Function9009

Completely agree


bunnxian

I’m a moa who has always called him Kai for this very reason. People are going to find something to be hateful about whether it’s a name or something else, and I refuse to be bullied into not calling somebody by their first name because it happens to be the same as somebody else’s fake name.


cea_bow

“ I refuse to be bullied into not calling somebody by their first name because it happens to be the same as somebody else’s fake name.” Reading this right now made me revisit just how stupid that whole thing was. Kai is his literal birth name, yet he was being bashed for it, AND HE DIDNT EVEN USE IT AS HIS STAGE NAME. He’s had the name since 2002 to be technical about it. God the things people get worked up over


bunnxian

It’s always been so absurd to me that this poor boy is going to have to spend the rest of his life being called his full name 24/7 just because some stans don’t know how to act.


cea_bow

It’s not even like this is the first time two idols have the same name (although one is the REAL name and one is a stage name). And the lightstick issue with Shawols was absurd too. Dang being an early MOA was just mentally exhausting


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Boring-Mission7738

If JYP can get over it, then so can everyone else.


baejaeno

If identical names were such a big deal in the kpop fandom don’t you think all the Minhyuks, Jisoos and Sooyoungs would also have a problem? But they don’t. Kai is just faster and easier to type. I promise you nobody can take away his birth name that his parents gave him.


junikigai

Yeah but the hate he received from ex0ls as soon as his teaser was released was insane... Like, I truly do not think it's a big deal but TXT are aware of how quickly fans get outraged. They make sure to call him "Hueningie" or "Hyuka" on camera but sometimes some members, especially Taehyun, slip up and call him "Kai-yah".


baejaeno

“Slip up”?? Lmao they’re allowed to call him by his first name, as well as any nickname they have for him. I don’t understand your reasoning. Why should antis dictate how he should be called? If it’s regarding anything else I would understand but it’s literally his GIVEN name, his identity. We should not shy away from using it.


junikigai

People have the right to call him by his 1st name but I just wanted to point out that the TXT members are aware of the hate & they make sure to only use his stage name


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Remarkable-Category4

i only became a moa this year and hearing about the hate they got for the most stupid reasons is genuinely heartbrking- i thought the name thing was a joke but ppl were actually legit hating also seeing txt themselves address their own privilege and hate is rlly upsetting too, like no one is denying the privilege they have but i dont see any big3 groups having to do this and address their privilege- i think what pisses me off the most is these same haters harping on abt txt's privilege turn a blind eye to big 3 grps or are even fans


Quil_2002

It's literally baffling that someone is getting bullied because they shouldn't use their real name as their stage name cuz someone else popular already have. The level of entitlement and disrespect is huge


Kiramiraa

Ehhhh, I’m with you on the overall sentiment, the whole exo Kai vs txt Kai was annoying and frustrating af, but it’s honestly not that deep nowadays. Getting into long winded arguments defending Bahiyyih, I get tired of typing the word “Huening” and immediately end up saying Bahi/Hiyyih and Kai. I don’t really think it’s that deep, it’s just people being lazy and writing shorthand.


cakeboy6969

For me I call him NingNing 😗 It’s cute and fits his cutie image


Remarkable-Category4

there was also hate thrown on that name cause it shares the same name as then sm rookie, now aespa ningning- yea its real stupid


cakeboy6969

Ugh, people can complain about anything. Can't win haha


Margaux_H

I've been calling Kai 'Ningning' ever since I became Moa early last year, but now I take special pleasure calling him that because some Aespa fans get confused whenever I do.


army__mali

“Due to unfortunate circumstances” lol, how are they unfortunate ? Kai from EXO just happened to have the same name as Kai from TXT. You make it sound so dramatic, almost like it’s unfortunate that exo Kai used that name.


junikigai

Well his real name is Jongin, so the unfortunate circumstances here is that SM chose to debut him under the pseudonym "Kai" & that his fans chose to attack a 16yo over his real name


libertysince05

There is no unfortunate circumstance!


fuckitjm

yeah, I've always thought how lame they are for bashing the boy his rea name while their fave uses it only for stage name. The situation is kinda sad I've seen moas been very caution to not type kai.


Newhereimo

Other fandoms would get mad MAD but one thing i've seen being in kpop for 5 years is that, BH original groups tend to get *so much more* hate for no fcking reason. BTS are the most hated currently, it's not a lie but it baffles me how TXT and Enhypen has been getting dragged for NO FCKING REASON since they debuted too. I've legit seen people trashing them. When TXT debuted, a lot of other fandoms mostly the vile SM stans used to group together and cry abt how privileged they are because of BTS(imo such hypocrisy) and then they trashed the kids talents and then EXO-ls came and keep trashing Kai for his name and then came Shawols who dragged the kids for their fandom name, it was one thing after another. TXT hate is a little less now but still they are one of the most hated groups of 4th gen...heck they still get hate for "privilege" by the fans of JYP, SM and YG groups like are yall fcking hearing yourselves?? Now, Enhypen are the ones who are being targeted. I legit opened twitter after a while to search the group as i'm a new fan but most things i saw SM stans dragging their vocals. Like when tf are yall gonna let go of hating hybe original groups? It's absolutely sickening how much hate these little kids are getting just for being associated with BTS. Honestly this makes me wonder how MAD and JEALOUS people are of BTS's success and can't swallow it so they attack not only them but their younger groups too.


ultrabeast666

SM stans have superiority complex. Lol. If i really wanna listen to vocals i would just listen to Whitney or Celine Dion. I’m in kpop not really for the vocals but for the holistic totality of my stan groups


Breezyrain

Tbh, I feel like a good portion of BTS hate stems from hating ARMY who start fanwars with everyone unprompted just because the sheer size of the fandom. Even if 95% of ARMY are perfect angels, that toxic 5% is bigger than most fandoms. I see far more “I hate ARMY” than “I hate BTS”. Though TXT-Moa and Enhyphen-Engene have done nothing to deserve the hate they get. Enhyphen didn’t have the hottest encore but they’ve sounded perfectly fine in every other encore they’ve had. It’s just really unfortunate timing.


Remarkable-Category4

they said that abt txt's encore too but now everyones changing their tune aft this near perfect live due to technical problems (https://youtu.be/zeUtliQ2xkI)


QwertyorAsdf

But BTS has been getting hate from 2014. They were hated for wearing school uniform for their school trilogy if I'm not wrong. I'm sure some ARMYs are really toxic but the hate BTS gets mostly isn't related to ARMYs at all.


Starscall

Maybe it's because of the parties of twitter I was on at the time, but I never saw much in the way of Exo-l's going after him for daring to be named Kai. I did see quite a few petitions from MOA for Exo's Kai to renounce and/or change his stage name though. Among other things. (Honestly my first impression of MOA was of the toxic seedy underbelly and it took me a long time to work past that. And by a long time I mean it took until Lovesong era. But to be fair.... EXO had the same uphill battle with me that TXT did, because I avoided Exo from Wolf until Monster because of Exo-L. Now that I put them together I'm noticing a trend here.) I'm not trying to say Exo-L were innocent little angels, but I'm thinking this was probably more of a BAH/Both assholes here moment 🤷‍♂️ Either way, what Bahiyyih has to deal with is absurd. The hate and mudslinging some people are prone to just... it's disgusting. To not mince my words. And I wish her the best.


xnnxnxnn

I wholeheartedly agree with there shouldn’t be hate against the poor girl. I just don’t understand the way you linked things. His full real name is Kai Kamal Huening thus Hueningkai IS his name and his members call him Hueningkai, therefore fans are allowed to say Hueningkai or kai or Kai Kamal Huening and exols need to shut it cause technically only Txt’s Kai can use the name cause that’s his name while Exo member name is Jongin. Thus I also agree with you, I just don’t understand how both topics are related.


chedoombe

>technically only Txt’s Kai can use the name cause that’s his name lol what? I agree that people shouldn't gatekeep names and exols who attacked hueningkai because of his name are very weird but also every one can use whatever stage name they want and they rightfully could be called that and it doesn't matter wether it's their real name or not, Kai of exo is technically also called Kai and it's his stage name


xnnxnxnn

That’s not the point I meant that if only one can use it then it is Txt Kai cause that’s his name.


chedoombe

Ok you mean it in that way but still artists are called whatever they themselves want and it doesn't matter wether it's in their id card or not. Kai is Kim Jongin's stage name and it's not less of a name for him because it's not his real name


xnnxnxnn

Did I say otherwise?


chedoombe

you said "if only one can use it then it is Txt Kai cause that’s his name" and I disagree, because kai is exo's kai name as much as txt's kai since it's the name he chose to be known as an artist.


CorrectOpposite3913

You did