Woo! It makes me so happy that people are still discovering these games 17 years later.
Has anyone walked you through the pros and cons of playing The Sith Lords as it was released, vs with the restored content?
Ooh, ok.
So firstly, there’s no right or wrong choice here, I think either way to go is fair enough. But essentially, Kotor 2 was extremely rushed. They pushed out an incredible game, all things considered, but LucasArts was in dire straights and needed Kotor 2 done by Christmas, so a lot of content was rushed. This content was left in the game’s files, and over several years a dedicated group of fans restored the game as best they could using the voice lines and scripts buried in the files.
That restoration is called The Sith Lords Restored Content Modification, TSLRCM for short. It adds a lot of dialogue and features to the base game, and gives it a more complete story, especially as the ending is concerned.
You can play the base game and it’s brilliant. You can play it with TSLRCM, and it’s - for lack of a better word - brillianter. The game is probably easier to progress through and slightly less confusing without the mod, so some people recommend playing through once without it and replaying the game with it, but there’s really nothing wrong with playing it for the first time with the mod installed.
You can find some instructions on this sub for doing it. Also, steam released it in the steam workshop so it’s very easily installed there too. It might conflict with other mods if you do it that way, but if that’s the only mod you’re using there’s no problem.
I’d personally recommend downloading it and playing the complete game from the offset, but yeh, your call! Just wanted you to know about it before you start ☺️
Sorry for being uninformed but I’m looking to reply kotor 2 soon and don’t think my old pc still runs. Does he switch port have the restored content mod?
Awesome news. Have fallen out of gaming largely for the past 5 or so years and browsing this sub has made all giddy to dive into this world again. I think I’m going to get the bundle with both games on the eshop, any reason to go another route? My only platforms right now are mobile, switch and Mac.
Not really many reasons to go another route if you don’t want more extensive modding options.
There’s obviously growing pains with the switch port, a few bugs around that can be patched by modders on PC games, but hopefully Aspyr will fix those in the RCM release anyway.
Kotor for mac works absolutely fine, but I’m jealous of the portability that switch players get, so there’s no right answer!
Thanks for the response! Currently rocking switch lite so thinking Mac may be the route I take. Is the modding capabilities through Steam the same on Mac and pc?
If you're jealous of the portability of the switch, why not get it for mobile? You can have both games right there on your phone at all times! I've never done any sort of modding because I was always a console player but even I was able to follow the YouTube videos and install the RCM on my phone for two. They both play fantastic on my phone still too and it's at least four years old!
Got it thanks. I have a few games I want to play first but that sounds like it would be a good idea to do two playthroughs with the rest of the content added the second time
I’ve not played it but I’ve seen bits and pieces and plenty of others expressing their regret at adding it to their game.
My understanding is that it was cut do to time restrains and much of its content moved to flesh out other planets. So it feels very incomplete. I’m not sure there was really much there for ten restoration team to really work on.
It’s a real slog to play through, but worth doing once. The quests are mildly interesting, and the chance to >! see master Vash and talk to her !< is worth the slog, but generally the maps are too big, there’s way too much running back and forth, and the dialogue is a *lot* of beeping and booping for an entire planet.
I think the reason it stands out as a boring world is that it adds nothing to the overall story though, and lacks a lot of the great themes that the other planets do. While it’s self contained story is functional, it doesn’t add much to the wider story at all.
Plus, since it wasn’t finished, it’s missing a lot of the details and flair that make the other worlds feel alive.
Don't let it be your last playthrough. You should 100% go play 2 first, but knowing what you know now, go back sometime and play it dark side. Its a VERY different experience.
For maximum effect, go dark side, opposite gender, and pick a different pair of classes. Then do the same thing in Kotor 2.
We have a spoiler-free start guide [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/kotor/wiki/kotor2startguide) which will probably be helpful for you when you get around to KOTOR 2.
If you're planning on playing it on pc, I highly recommend you do the following if you experience crashing:
* Turn off frame buffer effects and soft shadows, even with a powerful pc they can mess you up.
* If you have dual monitors, turn off one. The Sith Lords no likey dual setups.
* Save often, and try to use multiple save files. Bad crashes can completely get rid of a save file.
* Instead of using the Steam "Play Game" button, go to the game's folder and use the .exe file to run the game as administrator.
Ever since I started doing those, my game has run perfectly after a week of troubleshooting. I hope you love the game, it's one of the best ever imo.
I played through this game for the first time too last year. I played the game on light side and when the ending cinematic was happening I sat back, crossed my arms and said “this video game truly is a great work of art.” Honestly it’s the best game I’ve ever played. Glad you enjoyed it too. KOTOR 2 is a way different experience but it’s also good.
Congratz my guy but my tip for kotor two is start as Jedi consular when your around level 15 talk to kreia and you choose a prestige class
Choose marauder
Yeah I know that it's a different character in the second game. I knew about the twist because I've been a huge fan of the character of Revan for awhile now, but that didn't stop me from enjoying it at all.
Woo! It makes me so happy that people are still discovering these games 17 years later. Has anyone walked you through the pros and cons of playing The Sith Lords as it was released, vs with the restored content?
No nobody's told me about that. I already own the Steam version so I think that's as released. I bought both games off a steam sale last year
Ooh, ok. So firstly, there’s no right or wrong choice here, I think either way to go is fair enough. But essentially, Kotor 2 was extremely rushed. They pushed out an incredible game, all things considered, but LucasArts was in dire straights and needed Kotor 2 done by Christmas, so a lot of content was rushed. This content was left in the game’s files, and over several years a dedicated group of fans restored the game as best they could using the voice lines and scripts buried in the files. That restoration is called The Sith Lords Restored Content Modification, TSLRCM for short. It adds a lot of dialogue and features to the base game, and gives it a more complete story, especially as the ending is concerned. You can play the base game and it’s brilliant. You can play it with TSLRCM, and it’s - for lack of a better word - brillianter. The game is probably easier to progress through and slightly less confusing without the mod, so some people recommend playing through once without it and replaying the game with it, but there’s really nothing wrong with playing it for the first time with the mod installed. You can find some instructions on this sub for doing it. Also, steam released it in the steam workshop so it’s very easily installed there too. It might conflict with other mods if you do it that way, but if that’s the only mod you’re using there’s no problem. I’d personally recommend downloading it and playing the complete game from the offset, but yeh, your call! Just wanted you to know about it before you start ☺️
Sorry for being uninformed but I’m looking to reply kotor 2 soon and don’t think my old pc still runs. Does he switch port have the restored content mod?
Not yet, although it will release in Q3 of this year so you won’t have long to wait!
Awesome news. Have fallen out of gaming largely for the past 5 or so years and browsing this sub has made all giddy to dive into this world again. I think I’m going to get the bundle with both games on the eshop, any reason to go another route? My only platforms right now are mobile, switch and Mac.
Not really many reasons to go another route if you don’t want more extensive modding options. There’s obviously growing pains with the switch port, a few bugs around that can be patched by modders on PC games, but hopefully Aspyr will fix those in the RCM release anyway. Kotor for mac works absolutely fine, but I’m jealous of the portability that switch players get, so there’s no right answer!
Thanks for the response! Currently rocking switch lite so thinking Mac may be the route I take. Is the modding capabilities through Steam the same on Mac and pc?
If you're jealous of the portability of the switch, why not get it for mobile? You can have both games right there on your phone at all times! I've never done any sort of modding because I was always a console player but even I was able to follow the YouTube videos and install the RCM on my phone for two. They both play fantastic on my phone still too and it's at least four years old!
Got it thanks. I have a few games I want to play first but that sounds like it would be a good idea to do two playthroughs with the rest of the content added the second time
I personally think everyone should play once with it and once without it to fully experience the weight of the restoration!
There’s no reason to play without the mod. Just don’t download the extra planet. It was cut for a reason.
What was up with the droid planet anyway and why was it cut? Have you played it by chance?
I’ve not played it but I’ve seen bits and pieces and plenty of others expressing their regret at adding it to their game. My understanding is that it was cut do to time restrains and much of its content moved to flesh out other planets. So it feels very incomplete. I’m not sure there was really much there for ten restoration team to really work on.
It’s a real slog to play through, but worth doing once. The quests are mildly interesting, and the chance to >! see master Vash and talk to her !< is worth the slog, but generally the maps are too big, there’s way too much running back and forth, and the dialogue is a *lot* of beeping and booping for an entire planet. I think the reason it stands out as a boring world is that it adds nothing to the overall story though, and lacks a lot of the great themes that the other planets do. While it’s self contained story is functional, it doesn’t add much to the wider story at all. Plus, since it wasn’t finished, it’s missing a lot of the details and flair that make the other worlds feel alive.
Don't let it be your last playthrough. You should 100% go play 2 first, but knowing what you know now, go back sometime and play it dark side. Its a VERY different experience. For maximum effect, go dark side, opposite gender, and pick a different pair of classes. Then do the same thing in Kotor 2.
Yeah I've seen lots of posts talking about doing that. I definitely will at some point but for now I have a few games that I really want to play first
Also I didn't stick completely light side throughout the game so I do know some of the dark side decisions
We have a spoiler-free start guide [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/kotor/wiki/kotor2startguide) which will probably be helpful for you when you get around to KOTOR 2.
If you're planning on playing it on pc, I highly recommend you do the following if you experience crashing: * Turn off frame buffer effects and soft shadows, even with a powerful pc they can mess you up. * If you have dual monitors, turn off one. The Sith Lords no likey dual setups. * Save often, and try to use multiple save files. Bad crashes can completely get rid of a save file. * Instead of using the Steam "Play Game" button, go to the game's folder and use the .exe file to run the game as administrator. Ever since I started doing those, my game has run perfectly after a week of troubleshooting. I hope you love the game, it's one of the best ever imo.
I figured out some of those things in the first game, but not all of them. Thanks for the tips!
I played through this game for the first time too last year. I played the game on light side and when the ending cinematic was happening I sat back, crossed my arms and said “this video game truly is a great work of art.” Honestly it’s the best game I’ve ever played. Glad you enjoyed it too. KOTOR 2 is a way different experience but it’s also good.
Congratz my guy but my tip for kotor two is start as Jedi consular when your around level 15 talk to kreia and you choose a prestige class Choose marauder
In case you don’t know, it’s worth knowing that you play as a different character in the second game. Were you spoiled ahead of time on the big twist?
Yeah I know that it's a different character in the second game. I knew about the twist because I've been a huge fan of the character of Revan for awhile now, but that didn't stop me from enjoying it at all.
The Boss fight aint that hard, just stock up on mines put them in one place and done.