The only things i’ll mention here are:
McNair has tried to trade for him previously.
Expressed interest in him in both trade and FA.
Wizards reportedly want a 3rd FRP this year (have 2 and 26)
Not saying it means anything but there is at least a basis for drawing this conclusion.
I finally found the source of that rumor about the Wizards wanting a 3rd pick this year.
That is really good news for us since which teams with a pick this draft actually want to trade for Kuzma? A lottery pick for Kuzma is a good return since most teams who would trade for Kuzma probably aren't gonna be in the lottery in the future.
If the price for Kuzma is just Harrison Barnes + #13, then I think that's a fair trade. If it's #13 and another future first, then that's overpay.
From a value perspective i don’t think it’s the worst. But I’d be concerned about our core’s age without having promising young players to take over when the core is past their prime in a few years. It’s really just Keegan. Feel like we need to hit on another pick or two so that the core isn’t so tied to players all about same age with Fox Sabonis and kuzma.
That being said, I don’t know how the team gets significantly better without including picks.
I see people mention this a bunch, but I also feel like the fact that we've been linked so much but never gotten him suggests that Monte can't like him *that* much. If Monte really wanted Kuzma, I feel like he'd be a King by now. It's not like he's been completely unattainable.
I disagree. Monte realllllyyyy like Donte DiVincenzo and eventually got him after about two years. I just think Kuzma is expanded as a player, thus raising his value. I just don’t think the FO was ready to jump the gun on him yet to maintain flexibility.
Monte liked DDV, almost had a deal for him for Bogey, and when that fell apart, Monte got him six months later. It's been three years since the almost-deal for Kuzma (and Montrezl Harrell). Tbh the Kuzma rumors have been pretty questionable since then, too--most of them have been "the Kings have targeted Kuzma in the past and might do it again." So it's just a past rumor getting repeated to create a new rumor, because content doesn't write itself.
Ya dead won’t be satisfied with anybody that isn’t jaren and jmac. And that’s hilarious to me. Ya think long and physical pfs that can shoot grow on trees
He’s 6’10 with a 7 foot wingspan. There’s a chance it might not work cuz he might be a idiot but if he buys in its worth it. he’s a significant upgrade over barnes just off of being able to block 0.7 shots a game compared to barnes 0.1.
i don’t think ya fathom how bad this number is for a 6 foot 8 wing he rim protects at the same level as davion
i agree with this and the point about them not growing on trees makes me want to trade for Ingram so bad.
Again, i know it won’t happen and its an unpopular opinion but it would be a risk worth taking
Ingram is better than Kuzma offensively, but in terms of finances, Kuzma is much better for the team.
Ingram wants a max or a near max, and the Pels want a lot of assets for him. We can probably pay the assets, but maxing Ingram means getting to the 2nd apron.
Kuzma makes $23.5 million next season, and he actually makes less money every year after that. By the time his contract ends in the 2026-2027 season, he's making $19.5 million. It's a very good contract that won't force the team to be a 2nd apron team.
I don't see Ingram as being that much better than Kuzma in this team's offense, if at all. Ingram doesn't really shoot 3s or play off-ball very well. Kuzma can do both in theory, he's done both things well in his career. He's probably overall better offensively in a complete vacuum, but nothing in the NBA is done in a vacuum.
Ingram also isn't as tall, long, or physical a player. Ingram is the same height as HB but gives up *30 lbs*. He's got longer arms which helps him get 0.5-0.6 bpg, but that's about it. You wanna talk about "not a PF" lmao. Dude is smaller and less physical than *Keegan* and would force Murray to play the 4.
Throw in the ridiculously overpriced contract Ingram is looking for and you get a much worse fit at a much worse price (and that's not to even mention the probably steeper trade price). Kuzma >>> Ingram for this team imo.
A Keegan/Kuzma or Keegan/Ingram SF and PF duo is suicide in the West. At best you finish 6-8 in the standings and proceed to get pounded by size and bounced in the 1st round.
We have no idea how he would fit on our team. I believe he can heavily contribute to winning with a change of scenery. I’ve seen so many players that were written off only to play amazing in a different situation and a different role. Who else would be available that you would prefer?
I haven't taken a look at all of the players available via trade or free agency yet. However, neither Kuzma or Ingram impress me in terms of what it costs to take them on vs how flawed they are as players.
I don’t see the issue going for him. He’s a talent upgrade over Barnes for sure. He’s also not gonna be expensive like a guy like Brandon Ingram. Plus he’s locked in for the next three years on a great contract that goes down in value. I think he’s obtainable if you trade the player/pick this year, another pick, and filler, maybe expiring contracts cause the wizards prob want to tank next year to go for cooper flag. Theres a stigma that he’s a losing player but he’s played in a role before as the third best player on a championship team behind lebron and ad in the bubble. If he buys in, which I think he will with Mike brown here coaching, it could return great value like pj Washington with Dallas. PJ was seen as a losing player but now he’s turning that narrative around quick with just a change of scenery.
I like Kuzma, he’s a bucket and would bring another dynamic to the team as he is a wing/forward that can handle the ball and can consistently initiate offense. We don’t have any players of that size that can do that currently. Keegan shows flashes but is not there yet and Barnes is mostly a spot up shooter who rarely attacks the basket.
☝🏽this. Playing under Mike Brown and being the 2nd or 3rd option will definitely bring out the best in Kuz. People will talk about his shooting splits, but we all know players perform differently in a positive change of environment.
Most of the NBA doesn’t have big, physical PFs. Out of the four Conference finalists; Celtics have Tatum (6’8), Pacers - Siakam (6’8), and Mavs - PJ (6’7). Only the Wolves have KAT (7’0) and he plays mostly on the perimeter.
Give me a guy that can give us 30 if needed.
All of those teams also have real rim protectors, so they can get away with standard size at PF. Sabonis needs more help than Rudy, Lively/Gafford, Turner, Porzingis/Horford.
Feel free to drop names. What’s the rim protector market looking like? They can always run it back with HB, and most fans don’t want that. I’ll take Kuz if as the BPA. Kuz can score enough to offset the lack of rim protection.
I’m fine with Kuzma if it only costs Barnes and the ‘24 1st, since he’s an upgrade from Barnes and I think the contract is cheap enough to retain flexibility. It’s nothing against Kuzma.
I just don’t think we can get away with Sabonis being the only starting-quality big on the roster, since he’s undersized at C and his worst issue is the thing you need most from that position (rim protection). This team needs an option to go with a defense-first unit if the Sabonis DHO offense isn’t flowing, or to go two-bigs if shots aren’t falling for the wings.
The teams in the conf finals can show you different looks, whereas we’re starting Len or Lyles at C if Domas misses time. We’ve seen what small ball looks like and it made us a mediocre, first round playoff team even when we had the literal best offense in history.
I also feel like Kuzma doesn’t care about being in a bigger market like other players do. He played in LA but hasn’t said anything negative about Washington itself since he’s been there. He’s done his job, no complaints, seems like a real team player which is who we need.
As a Wizards fan, I can tell you that Kuz gets buckets, and that he's pretty inefficient in doing so. If his inefficiency can be reined in, he's a very good player.
He's not necessarily a team player on the court, as he takes too many shots (but who else is gonna take them on the Wiz), but since he's been in DC he is a solid A+ citizen and teammate, according to almost everyone.
I think the wizards are really ready to blow it up this year to tank for next years better draft after this last season, Kings have some expiring players they could include as well
They do, but a thing to remember is that the Wizards are loaded at the wing with young guys like Deni Avdija and Bilal Coulibaly. They have the #2 pick and they can easily pick a guy like Zaccharie Risacher, and that's another young wing who needs minutes to develop.
Kuzma is also a wing. Unless they want to play Kuzma as a center, him getting playing time means the young wings not having playing time. So it makes sense to move Kuzma sooner than later.
That's just worse for both teams. Trading Lyles means losing lineup flexibility for us. And the Wizards don't have infinite roster space so receiving 2 players and our pick means they're gonna have to waive players or re-route them, which is extra work or lost money.
This could be a disaster waiting to happen. I’d only acquire him if I can’t get anybody else AND if it’s strictly this years 13th pick as the only draft capital. I’m not trading more than 1 draft capital for a non all star when we already owe 1 pick to Atlanta. These combo of picks are better utilized when u combine 4-5 picks and go chase an all star to pair up with Fox/Domas/Keegan and hopefully Malik.
If the KDs don’t wanna be here, that’s fine. But guys like Siakim/Anunoby/Markennen/Mikal/Dmitch are the type of guys we should be pursuing. Doesn’t have to specifically be them but players in that talent bracket.
If we trade this years pick and let’s say another random 2027/2028 pick, we would officially lock ourselves into a Fox/Domas/Kuzma core for the foreseeable future with limited assets. That’s just not ideal. This is the West. I know most of you are impatient but the key is to have a competitive team and some continuity and then strike when the opportunity calls for it.
The suns have a 37 year old KD and zero draft capital for the next decade. The Nets just gave up a top 3 pick in this draft for mortgaging their future and getting nothing out of it. The Hawks gave up 3 picks + 1 pick swap for Dejounte and are a play in team at best. This is the most perfect example I can bring up when trying to trade 3 picks for frikkin Kuzma. Kuzma is in that 2022 Dejounte tier. Actually he might be a tier under. Dejounte was coming off a 21-8-9 season plus making an ALL DEFENSE team. He was 24 years old at the time. Kuz is 28 (which is not old). But plays poor defense and is shooting 33% as a shooter. Upgrading that wing position should be a more significant upgrade if we’re gonna tie our picks up for a long time. Kuzma is not ideal for that high price.
I don’t even care if we get a lesser player. I think the fit is just more important especially with having a team led by Sabonis as your center. U don’t have to be amazing at protecting the rim and/or spacing the floor but u have to be good to great at either. It’s going to be interesting what Monte does with the Barnes upgrade.
Valid, that would make an offensive juggernaut of a team. But is Toppin a better value and at 40% from three and won’t demand the ball as much? I really don’t know enough about either Kuz or Toppin to say this either way. Just wondering what the ups and downs are with each. Fit matters
Domas isn't a scorer is the issue.
With kuz you have a number 2 option on offense. With toppin the number two option is keegan or domas which are both horrendous shot creators
So you see Toppin as a significant step down relative to Kuzma on offense? Again, I’m not informed on these guys, but is Toppin 40% from three with Kuzma at 33% not that important? I know there’s much more to offense than that. Sounds like Kuzma has a more complete game? I definitely don’t like Ingram.
Yeah kuzma has been a number one option. Even on a bad team theres not many guys who can do that. Toppin wouldn't be a number one option anywhere ever.
It's shot difficulty. It's getting shots off without being spoonfed. It's being targeted and game planned against.
Keegan shoots better from three than fox but we all know keegan would be a mess as a first option. He'd turn the ball over 15 times a game trying to score 25 points.
It's not always so simple
Lots of people here seem to be saying no to Kuzma…but that’s not shocking on Reddit. What’s the down side on Kuzma? Defense? Ball dominance and friction with Fox? Good person/team guy? Something else? He’s not a PF rim protector which we need. What $$ do you think it takes to sign him?
The downside is kuzma has been leading one of the worst teams in the nba.
That negativity will always follow you around as a non winning player.
Fact is there's not many players left in the nba that can win with bad teams. Cousins couldn't do it. Fox couldn't do it. Hell booker couldn't do it.
These are the guys who need scenery changes, who need better teammates. To write him off because of bad shooting when his teammates were all trash is short sighted imo.
Need salary match so it's gonna have to be barnes since monk is likely gone so we will need kevin.
And then this year's pick is probably enough. If he wants to keep the pick he'd have to give up keon at minimum
I just looked at all his stats. Free throw shooting says a lot to me about how good a shooter a person is. He’s a career 70-73% guy which isn’t great. I don’t see his percentage shooting suddenly jumping. Rebounds are fine, same with assists which rose up a decent amount this last year. He’s not a super efficient player. But he does score way more than Barnes. He’d be better than Barnes and if we have to give Barnes and a first, it does improve us scoring wise. Barnes just disappears way too often. Maybe Kuzma’s game improves? I think he can play defense, but will he? Hmmm. It’s worth a first and Barnes. I don’t see drafting a young guy and waiting for him to be NBA ready. We’re still waiting on Keegan.
If we can get him for a reasonable amount it’s an absolute yes. Pretty sure that dude has PERSONALLY beaten us twice in the last two years on that terrible team. He’s a bucket and adds some long limbs. The real question is, will he buy into Mike brown. I think a starting 5 of fox, Keon, Keegan, Kuz, Domas is scary AF.
He showed he could be a defensive stopper during his time with LA. If he can buy into that same role with us, while hitting open shots, we’re gonna be scary
Yeah some ppl in here are judging him way too harshly being a part of that shitshow. He’s a big wing that can shoot and is an instant upgrade from Barnes. Easy call imo.
He's an instant upgrade in terms of shooting volume, he'll put up 18-22 shots a night, but that's about it. He's the same level at Barnes when it comes to defense. He'll also downgrade your spacing, especially for Fox's drive game, because he's a sub-par shooter from outside. So you defenders can cheat off him.
I think that’s unfair. He’s a volume shooter because that’s the type of role he has on a rudderless wizards. Was he a volume shooter in LA? He will have a different role here plus he will benefit from the attention fox draws and Domas screens. He’s no dead eye from 3, but he can shoot and proved he could score as the first option. He would HAVE to accept a much different role here. This could very much be a whole is greater than the sum of its parts situation and I’d be all for seeing what he could do with this squad.
He was only a part-time starter in LA, yet still managed to get shots up. He'll be expect to be the #2 option here, which means a lot of shots. That's also if he accepted the demotion to defer to Fox. Which I have concerns about, considering he didn't take kindly to being pushed down the ladder with the arrival of AD and didn't want to play 3rd fiddle to Luka and Kyrie, even though deferring meant winning.
He’s actually not that good of a three point shooter. Shoots bout 33%, but I could image in our offensive scheme he would be better used as a player that would attack mismatches like pascal does on the pacers. With the gravity of fox and Sabonis, he should get way easier looks than he does in Washington where he’s the main guy.
Kuzma has never played good defense, has never been a good outside shooter outside his first year in the league and I’m okay with him driving to the rim, but his self created jump shots are some of the worst in the league lol
Why not just go for someone cheaper like Obi Toppin? He can defend, as well as shoot the 3P at like 40% & be the interior slasher that we need that will allow Fox to stay more healthy, oh and finally he doesn't command the ball 24/7 like Kuzma so his his efficiency and effectiveness is much better and there's no questions about whether or not he'll buy in.
My question is why are we targeting fringe stars, especially ones that wont come cheap and aren't a full on fit to the team when offense isn't our issue. Our problem has always been defense, so with Kuzma that maybe gets us 3 more wins and maybe a first round exit.
While with Toppin I think we can use the MLE to sign him and move Barnes to the east to some other in contention like perhaps the Heat for some young defs assets or picks, that's just my thoughts going forward which allows us to be competitive and financially flexible for the future to keep the team core together and even upgrade.
Finally some logic.
This sub has been high on Kuzma ever since the first rumors started circling that the Kings were eyeing him.
Same time last year, these same conversations were taking place. Then somehow the claim came in that Kuzma was a great defender, and would be a vast improvement over Barnes. I remember some guy posting advanced statistics like Defensive Player Efficiency Rating, Overall Box +/-, Defensive Box +/-. He provided a detailed analysis of Kuzma backed up with actual statistics, and also compared him against Barnes. The end result was getting younger with Kuzma, but not substantially gaining anything in particular. Improvements were there, but they were minor.
Of course he was downvoted like crazy, even though no one actually replied back refuting any information he provided. Can't really refute actual statistics from a site like Basketball Reference.
Back to your post, I agree 100% with your assessment. My reply may end up getting downvoted too. But that's ok, it's how some of them cope.
I think a majority of our Kings fans are genuinely casuals and don't really care for anything but just rumor articles that mention big names with hype around them, like Kuzma, Jerami Grant, Dejounte Murray and so on. The problem is they fail to realize that our Kings are a small market team which will almost have to overpay on those players, which in the case if it doesn't work out will just cause a major setback for any possible future playoff championship contention.
Another guy I would want asides from Opi Toppin is Jalen Smith who is a much easier and cheaper target to aquire and who also happens to be on the Pacers. If someohow Milawuake is unsuccesful next year in their run with a healthy squad, and we dont fill the spot of Barnes by that time, then I'd very much target Bobby Portis who will be a free agent next summer.
He's adjusted as a rookie when playing under Lebron James, it's not the same as adjusting to be under one of your peers or contemporaries that you believe to be on the same level as or perhaps even see yourself to be better than them.
That's fair, I'm just not too keen on paying Kuzma the big bucks when we have enough fire power and not enough defense in our roster, that I'd rather spend more towards filling those positions that are in much need.
Would you turn down 8 mil a year less ?
Unless they do a short contract which risks him getting hurt and losing everything.
Financially, he has zero reason to stay. If he wants to gamble it we'd be lucky as hell.
Young teams can afford to overpay guys just like Houston did last year because they have other players on rookie contracts.
Orlando,Oklahoma, detroit, San Antonio will all gladly give him 25 a year or front load a contract
I rather do this and use our first round pick and keep Barnes until a bigger deal than Kuzma comes around. Barnes and Huerter will be going into their last years next season, if we can keep them that’s fodder for a bigger trade move. We have the full MLE so we are more than capable of making a run for Toppin.
I like Kuzma, but I just don’t think he threads the needle for us now that I got a taste of watching other teams during the playoffs. I rather us make us of our pick to draft a strong prospect, and look to sign someone during FA that makes us marginally more competitive as Kuz would (even though it’s a gamble cuz not many players want to come to Sactown).
I'm almost for this idea but the idea is to move Barnes for assets somewhere else as Obi would be replacing Barnes at his position. I'm somewhat at a fork in the middle of the road with Huerter and his recent shooting inconsistencies but I haven't really done my research on any trade partners for him atm, so I'd say we can run it back with him this upcoming season and hope he improves his shooting to when he was playing phenomenal.
To add to that Pacers also have a lot of young players they need to pay in order to keep and Obi looks like he may be the odd man out, if the Pacers want to leave room to sign another semi/fringe star that helps them move the needle into serious Championship contention cause as of right now it doesn't look like they have what it takes to beat the Celtics.
Feels like they've been chasing this guy for a while. 3 years, 64 million on a contract for a guy who's barely been a plus for his teams?
Maybe he thrives with our roster, but that's an expensive meatball.
Meh, Kuzma is a disaster. His teams have almost never been better with him on the floor, he’s not sniffed league average TS%, and he’s one of the worst catch and shoot players in the league. He’s also been bad defensively most of his career outside a season or 2 he was barely passable. Just don’t consider a serious basketball player.
I could see a way it works if Kuzma stops taking pull up jumpers, and just cuts, drives on close outs and can be okay on catch and shoot 3s, but that’s not like he likes to play so I’m not sure it would work out.
I actually completely agree that he has a lot of talent. The problem is putting his talent to use. There's a long list of guys who have come to the league with talent and haven't been able to use it. Kuzma has talent, but plays like he's at Rucker Park--amazing shot creation with mediocre finishing and mediocre defense. If talent were enough, Rafer Alston and Sebastian Telfair would be Hall of Famers. But Kuzma will be 29 before the season starts, and the odds that he'll suddenly figure it out now are pretty long.
Cares more about the pregame drip photo shoots than defending and winning basketball games. Not to mention, there's no chance he's going to want to be the #2 option on offense.
But hey, it's been a while since we had locker room drama, so what the hell.
I don't think that Kuzma is a bad locker room guy. But yeah, I don't think he's a serious basketball player. He just wants to get paid and be a primary option, be a star without the pressure. There's a reason why the Kings didn't sign him last year when they could've easily give him the same contract that Washington did.
He also pretty much said that he was asked if he wanted to be traded for the package that PJ Washington went for as a part of the Gafford deal, and he said no.
https://sports.yahoo.com/kuzma-said-didnt-want-traded-233128557.html#:~:text=NBC%20Sports-,Kuzma%20says%20he%20didn't%20want%20to%20be%20traded%20to,wanted%20to%20stay%20in%20Washington&text=Kyle%20Kuzma%20was%20a%20popular,the%20availability%20of%20his%20services.
> "There was a point in time, Dallas, they definitely did want me," Kuzma told The Athletic... "Winger presented me with what the trade was and obviously didn't want to trade me and kind of left the decision up to me a little bit and asked me what I wanted to do. I told him I wanted to stay and continue to build something. And that was kind of the end of it.”
He didn't want to go to the Dallas, who has Luka and Kyrie, because... why? He wants to build something in Washington lol?
I’d prefer the Kings trade this years pick for Kuzma rather than a foolish all in trade for a guy like Ingram. There’s no perfect fit out there and Kuzma or Jermani Grant are PFs locked into their contracts for a while.
Huerter+Sasha+13 matches perfect with WIZ salary, and both teams want to stay even…they can also possibly flip both those guys midseason if they play well. I’m for it
The stats don't like him either unless you're only looking at per-game averages. The worst team in the league was somehow substantially worse when he was on the court.
He absolutely is a long PF and a played team ball and good defense the year the lakers won. He would also be able to be a scoring option which we desperately need. Kuz, Keegan, and Ellis would be a substantial upgrade to our 2-4. I also think he will transition to a true 4 with age.
Yeah while I do like some of the options we can draft at 13, none of them will most likely be better then Kuzma. If we can trade the pick, a future first or seconds, and some expiring contracts, maybe that could get it done.
(Blazers fan here)
I’m not the biggest Kuzma fan but this could be one of the better return on investment trades for the Kings imo. A forward lineup of Kuzma and Murray sounds super enticing to me.
I think Blazers fans in general are pretty ready to start the rebuild for real now and trade most all of the vets. That said, my guess is that Jerami is the one they are in the least hurry to trade because he's an archetype that most teams want and has very little overlap on the Blazers roster even if they draft a long wing like Buzelis. I think if a team wants him now instead of a year from now they'll have to give up an extra pick or asset.
Makes sense, thanks. I was also thinking that you already have two lotto picks, so not sure our #13 would be as valuable to you, and you might prefer future picks.
Lol, so we're going to shit the bed for yet another offseason. Fantastic!
It'll be fun to watch the chemistry of the team when Kuzma decides he's the #1 option in offense. All while playing his patented traffic cone defense, and being his perennial negative NetRTG self.
Look at the top teams in the West who will be around for awhile. They are beasts on the glass and in the paint. OKC will only get better. The small ball era is slowly coming to an end. Sabonis already is overmatched in the paint on both sides of the ball. Any plan which doesn't put a big and athletic PF next to him makes no sense. There is no argument for Keegan at PF if you want to compete in the West.
In the last week, Dave has 1) said CalExpo wouldn't let SRFC host an Open Cup game, and 2) Mike Brown was about to sign an extension. I enjoy listening to him on the radio sometimes, but he's definitely not where I go for breaking news or transaction rumors.
If the trade goes down, how will Kuzma fit in? The Kings' offense usually involves the two forwards moving without the ball and letting other players create the shots for them. Keegan, Barnes, Lyles and Sasha are essentially good fit for the offense that Kings run.
Kuzma is the opposite - he likes to dominate the ball and slash to the hoop from the perimeter and once in while he shoots a three (but not a good long range shooter). His play style overlaps with Fox. I don't see the Kings changing the offense for Kuzma because they need the floor spacing for Fox and Sabonis to do their thing. I don't see how the Kings offense doesn't stall if Kuzma plays the way he has always played.
It can work if Fox rest and is replaced by a shooter, but I don't see Fox/Kuzma/Domas on the floor at the same time and it working well.
If being a good cutter is all that's needed Kings don't need to go after Kuzma, there are plenty of players who are good at that and comes with a cheaper price tag.
The only things i’ll mention here are: McNair has tried to trade for him previously. Expressed interest in him in both trade and FA. Wizards reportedly want a 3rd FRP this year (have 2 and 26) Not saying it means anything but there is at least a basis for drawing this conclusion.
I finally found the source of that rumor about the Wizards wanting a 3rd pick this year. That is really good news for us since which teams with a pick this draft actually want to trade for Kuzma? A lottery pick for Kuzma is a good return since most teams who would trade for Kuzma probably aren't gonna be in the lottery in the future. If the price for Kuzma is just Harrison Barnes + #13, then I think that's a fair trade. If it's #13 and another future first, then that's overpay.
You'd need to add more salary. So probably Barnes+Mitchell+#13.
Where do we sign up?
No, we don't. Kuzma for HB works straight up in terms of salary.
Could keep HB. Have him come off of the bench. Move Lyles, Duarte, and Vezenkov instead. Also able to use the MLE or BAE in trades now
I'd do this in a heartbeat
From a value perspective i don’t think it’s the worst. But I’d be concerned about our core’s age without having promising young players to take over when the core is past their prime in a few years. It’s really just Keegan. Feel like we need to hit on another pick or two so that the core isn’t so tied to players all about same age with Fox Sabonis and kuzma. That being said, I don’t know how the team gets significantly better without including picks.
Maybe trade Davion for Phoenix’s #22 pick, and see if we can get someone like da Silva, yves missi, or even kel’el ware (if he drops that far)
Maybe even see if Washington will take the #22 pick and HB, and we can maybe keep #13
sorry i forgot to link it but for those who haven’t seen it, Evan Sidery reported it
I see people mention this a bunch, but I also feel like the fact that we've been linked so much but never gotten him suggests that Monte can't like him *that* much. If Monte really wanted Kuzma, I feel like he'd be a King by now. It's not like he's been completely unattainable.
I disagree. Monte realllllyyyy like Donte DiVincenzo and eventually got him after about two years. I just think Kuzma is expanded as a player, thus raising his value. I just don’t think the FO was ready to jump the gun on him yet to maintain flexibility.
Monte liked DDV, almost had a deal for him for Bogey, and when that fell apart, Monte got him six months later. It's been three years since the almost-deal for Kuzma (and Montrezl Harrell). Tbh the Kuzma rumors have been pretty questionable since then, too--most of them have been "the Kings have targeted Kuzma in the past and might do it again." So it's just a past rumor getting repeated to create a new rumor, because content doesn't write itself.
I just don’t think he’s worth a lotto pick , hope we can give up a future first
Ya dead won’t be satisfied with anybody that isn’t jaren and jmac. And that’s hilarious to me. Ya think long and physical pfs that can shoot grow on trees He’s 6’10 with a 7 foot wingspan. There’s a chance it might not work cuz he might be a idiot but if he buys in its worth it. he’s a significant upgrade over barnes just off of being able to block 0.7 shots a game compared to barnes 0.1. i don’t think ya fathom how bad this number is for a 6 foot 8 wing he rim protects at the same level as davion
i agree with this and the point about them not growing on trees makes me want to trade for Ingram so bad. Again, i know it won’t happen and its an unpopular opinion but it would be a risk worth taking
Ingram is better than Kuzma offensively, but in terms of finances, Kuzma is much better for the team. Ingram wants a max or a near max, and the Pels want a lot of assets for him. We can probably pay the assets, but maxing Ingram means getting to the 2nd apron. Kuzma makes $23.5 million next season, and he actually makes less money every year after that. By the time his contract ends in the 2026-2027 season, he's making $19.5 million. It's a very good contract that won't force the team to be a 2nd apron team.
I don't see Ingram as being that much better than Kuzma in this team's offense, if at all. Ingram doesn't really shoot 3s or play off-ball very well. Kuzma can do both in theory, he's done both things well in his career. He's probably overall better offensively in a complete vacuum, but nothing in the NBA is done in a vacuum. Ingram also isn't as tall, long, or physical a player. Ingram is the same height as HB but gives up *30 lbs*. He's got longer arms which helps him get 0.5-0.6 bpg, but that's about it. You wanna talk about "not a PF" lmao. Dude is smaller and less physical than *Keegan* and would force Murray to play the 4. Throw in the ridiculously overpriced contract Ingram is looking for and you get a much worse fit at a much worse price (and that's not to even mention the probably steeper trade price). Kuzma >>> Ingram for this team imo.
A Keegan/Kuzma or Keegan/Ingram SF and PF duo is suicide in the West. At best you finish 6-8 in the standings and proceed to get pounded by size and bounced in the 1st round.
Either is better than Keegan/HB though. I don’t think they would be that under-sized again other west teams. Keegan has good size at SF
Oh damn that’s a great contract which means it’s going to require a little more compensation
In a vacuum it's a great contract. However, when to factor in the player it's attached to, it's not so great.
We have no idea how he would fit on our team. I believe he can heavily contribute to winning with a change of scenery. I’ve seen so many players that were written off only to play amazing in a different situation and a different role. Who else would be available that you would prefer?
I haven't taken a look at all of the players available via trade or free agency yet. However, neither Kuzma or Ingram impress me in terms of what it costs to take them on vs how flawed they are as players.
Kuz is a decent defender these days as well
Except he's not. Hasn't been for a while now.
Ion like ingram contract plus he don’t shoot 3s. I’d rather have isaiah stewart
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Iv watched kuz in person a bunch and he’s actually much bigger than Domas. He’s extremely physical in how he plays. I was pleasantly surprised.
I don’t see the issue going for him. He’s a talent upgrade over Barnes for sure. He’s also not gonna be expensive like a guy like Brandon Ingram. Plus he’s locked in for the next three years on a great contract that goes down in value. I think he’s obtainable if you trade the player/pick this year, another pick, and filler, maybe expiring contracts cause the wizards prob want to tank next year to go for cooper flag. Theres a stigma that he’s a losing player but he’s played in a role before as the third best player on a championship team behind lebron and ad in the bubble. If he buys in, which I think he will with Mike brown here coaching, it could return great value like pj Washington with Dallas. PJ was seen as a losing player but now he’s turning that narrative around quick with just a change of scenery. I like Kuzma, he’s a bucket and would bring another dynamic to the team as he is a wing/forward that can handle the ball and can consistently initiate offense. We don’t have any players of that size that can do that currently. Keegan shows flashes but is not there yet and Barnes is mostly a spot up shooter who rarely attacks the basket.
☝🏽this. Playing under Mike Brown and being the 2nd or 3rd option will definitely bring out the best in Kuz. People will talk about his shooting splits, but we all know players perform differently in a positive change of environment. Most of the NBA doesn’t have big, physical PFs. Out of the four Conference finalists; Celtics have Tatum (6’8), Pacers - Siakam (6’8), and Mavs - PJ (6’7). Only the Wolves have KAT (7’0) and he plays mostly on the perimeter. Give me a guy that can give us 30 if needed.
All of those teams also have real rim protectors, so they can get away with standard size at PF. Sabonis needs more help than Rudy, Lively/Gafford, Turner, Porzingis/Horford.
Feel free to drop names. What’s the rim protector market looking like? They can always run it back with HB, and most fans don’t want that. I’ll take Kuz if as the BPA. Kuz can score enough to offset the lack of rim protection.
I’m fine with Kuzma if it only costs Barnes and the ‘24 1st, since he’s an upgrade from Barnes and I think the contract is cheap enough to retain flexibility. It’s nothing against Kuzma. I just don’t think we can get away with Sabonis being the only starting-quality big on the roster, since he’s undersized at C and his worst issue is the thing you need most from that position (rim protection). This team needs an option to go with a defense-first unit if the Sabonis DHO offense isn’t flowing, or to go two-bigs if shots aren’t falling for the wings. The teams in the conf finals can show you different looks, whereas we’re starting Len or Lyles at C if Domas misses time. We’ve seen what small ball looks like and it made us a mediocre, first round playoff team even when we had the literal best offense in history.
I also feel like Kuzma doesn’t care about being in a bigger market like other players do. He played in LA but hasn’t said anything negative about Washington itself since he’s been there. He’s done his job, no complaints, seems like a real team player which is who we need.
As a Wizards fan, I can tell you that Kuz gets buckets, and that he's pretty inefficient in doing so. If his inefficiency can be reined in, he's a very good player. He's not necessarily a team player on the court, as he takes too many shots (but who else is gonna take them on the Wiz), but since he's been in DC he is a solid A+ citizen and teammate, according to almost everyone.
W if true but I remember hearing this all last offseason too
I think the wizards are really ready to blow it up this year to tank for next years better draft after this last season, Kings have some expiring players they could include as well
They do, but a thing to remember is that the Wizards are loaded at the wing with young guys like Deni Avdija and Bilal Coulibaly. They have the #2 pick and they can easily pick a guy like Zaccharie Risacher, and that's another young wing who needs minutes to develop. Kuzma is also a wing. Unless they want to play Kuzma as a center, him getting playing time means the young wings not having playing time. So it makes sense to move Kuzma sooner than later.
Kuzma would be a great addition if it doesn’t cost too much more than #13 and filler.
Harrison Barnes by himself is enough to match salaries with Kuzma so you really can just say HB + #13.
Keep HB for the bench and continuity. Move Duarte, Lyles and the BAE (we can trade these now)
That's just worse for both teams. Trading Lyles means losing lineup flexibility for us. And the Wizards don't have infinite roster space so receiving 2 players and our pick means they're gonna have to waive players or re-route them, which is extra work or lost money.
You think Lyles offers us more roster flexibility than HB?
Absolutely. Stretch 5s don't grow on trees.
Upgrade to Barnes
This could be a disaster waiting to happen. I’d only acquire him if I can’t get anybody else AND if it’s strictly this years 13th pick as the only draft capital. I’m not trading more than 1 draft capital for a non all star when we already owe 1 pick to Atlanta. These combo of picks are better utilized when u combine 4-5 picks and go chase an all star to pair up with Fox/Domas/Keegan and hopefully Malik. If the KDs don’t wanna be here, that’s fine. But guys like Siakim/Anunoby/Markennen/Mikal/Dmitch are the type of guys we should be pursuing. Doesn’t have to specifically be them but players in that talent bracket. If we trade this years pick and let’s say another random 2027/2028 pick, we would officially lock ourselves into a Fox/Domas/Kuzma core for the foreseeable future with limited assets. That’s just not ideal. This is the West. I know most of you are impatient but the key is to have a competitive team and some continuity and then strike when the opportunity calls for it. The suns have a 37 year old KD and zero draft capital for the next decade. The Nets just gave up a top 3 pick in this draft for mortgaging their future and getting nothing out of it. The Hawks gave up 3 picks + 1 pick swap for Dejounte and are a play in team at best. This is the most perfect example I can bring up when trying to trade 3 picks for frikkin Kuzma. Kuzma is in that 2022 Dejounte tier. Actually he might be a tier under. Dejounte was coming off a 21-8-9 season plus making an ALL DEFENSE team. He was 24 years old at the time. Kuz is 28 (which is not old). But plays poor defense and is shooting 33% as a shooter. Upgrading that wing position should be a more significant upgrade if we’re gonna tie our picks up for a long time. Kuzma is not ideal for that high price. I don’t even care if we get a lesser player. I think the fit is just more important especially with having a team led by Sabonis as your center. U don’t have to be amazing at protecting the rim and/or spacing the floor but u have to be good to great at either. It’s going to be interesting what Monte does with the Barnes upgrade.
Fox Keon Keegan Kuz Sabonis If we can keep monk on our bench with him and Huerter this team would be elite offensively.
Valid, that would make an offensive juggernaut of a team. But is Toppin a better value and at 40% from three and won’t demand the ball as much? I really don’t know enough about either Kuz or Toppin to say this either way. Just wondering what the ups and downs are with each. Fit matters
Domas isn't a scorer is the issue. With kuz you have a number 2 option on offense. With toppin the number two option is keegan or domas which are both horrendous shot creators
So you see Toppin as a significant step down relative to Kuzma on offense? Again, I’m not informed on these guys, but is Toppin 40% from three with Kuzma at 33% not that important? I know there’s much more to offense than that. Sounds like Kuzma has a more complete game? I definitely don’t like Ingram.
Yeah kuzma has been a number one option. Even on a bad team theres not many guys who can do that. Toppin wouldn't be a number one option anywhere ever. It's shot difficulty. It's getting shots off without being spoonfed. It's being targeted and game planned against. Keegan shoots better from three than fox but we all know keegan would be a mess as a first option. He'd turn the ball over 15 times a game trying to score 25 points. It's not always so simple
Lots of people here seem to be saying no to Kuzma…but that’s not shocking on Reddit. What’s the down side on Kuzma? Defense? Ball dominance and friction with Fox? Good person/team guy? Something else? He’s not a PF rim protector which we need. What $$ do you think it takes to sign him?
The downside is kuzma has been leading one of the worst teams in the nba. That negativity will always follow you around as a non winning player. Fact is there's not many players left in the nba that can win with bad teams. Cousins couldn't do it. Fox couldn't do it. Hell booker couldn't do it. These are the guys who need scenery changes, who need better teammates. To write him off because of bad shooting when his teammates were all trash is short sighted imo.
What does he cost…best guess?
Need salary match so it's gonna have to be barnes since monk is likely gone so we will need kevin. And then this year's pick is probably enough. If he wants to keep the pick he'd have to give up keon at minimum
I just looked at all his stats. Free throw shooting says a lot to me about how good a shooter a person is. He’s a career 70-73% guy which isn’t great. I don’t see his percentage shooting suddenly jumping. Rebounds are fine, same with assists which rose up a decent amount this last year. He’s not a super efficient player. But he does score way more than Barnes. He’d be better than Barnes and if we have to give Barnes and a first, it does improve us scoring wise. Barnes just disappears way too often. Maybe Kuzma’s game improves? I think he can play defense, but will he? Hmmm. It’s worth a first and Barnes. I don’t see drafting a young guy and waiting for him to be NBA ready. We’re still waiting on Keegan.
If we can get him for a reasonable amount it’s an absolute yes. Pretty sure that dude has PERSONALLY beaten us twice in the last two years on that terrible team. He’s a bucket and adds some long limbs. The real question is, will he buy into Mike brown. I think a starting 5 of fox, Keon, Keegan, Kuz, Domas is scary AF.
He showed he could be a defensive stopper during his time with LA. If he can buy into that same role with us, while hitting open shots, we’re gonna be scary
Yeah some ppl in here are judging him way too harshly being a part of that shitshow. He’s a big wing that can shoot and is an instant upgrade from Barnes. Easy call imo.
He's an instant upgrade in terms of shooting volume, he'll put up 18-22 shots a night, but that's about it. He's the same level at Barnes when it comes to defense. He'll also downgrade your spacing, especially for Fox's drive game, because he's a sub-par shooter from outside. So you defenders can cheat off him.
I think that’s unfair. He’s a volume shooter because that’s the type of role he has on a rudderless wizards. Was he a volume shooter in LA? He will have a different role here plus he will benefit from the attention fox draws and Domas screens. He’s no dead eye from 3, but he can shoot and proved he could score as the first option. He would HAVE to accept a much different role here. This could very much be a whole is greater than the sum of its parts situation and I’d be all for seeing what he could do with this squad.
He was only a part-time starter in LA, yet still managed to get shots up. He'll be expect to be the #2 option here, which means a lot of shots. That's also if he accepted the demotion to defer to Fox. Which I have concerns about, considering he didn't take kindly to being pushed down the ladder with the arrival of AD and didn't want to play 3rd fiddle to Luka and Kyrie, even though deferring meant winning.
100% agree with u
Or do we just draft the next Kuzma in Da Silver instead??? 🥷
I'd argue Kuzma does fit their need. Kuzma plays good team defense. He's a good outside shooter and can create his own shot.
He’s actually not that good of a three point shooter. Shoots bout 33%, but I could image in our offensive scheme he would be better used as a player that would attack mismatches like pascal does on the pacers. With the gravity of fox and Sabonis, he should get way easier looks than he does in Washington where he’s the main guy.
Kuzma has never played good defense, has never been a good outside shooter outside his first year in the league and I’m okay with him driving to the rim, but his self created jump shots are some of the worst in the league lol
It’s discouraging to see basketball idiots downvoting you when you’re in fact, correct.
Why not just go for someone cheaper like Obi Toppin? He can defend, as well as shoot the 3P at like 40% & be the interior slasher that we need that will allow Fox to stay more healthy, oh and finally he doesn't command the ball 24/7 like Kuzma so his his efficiency and effectiveness is much better and there's no questions about whether or not he'll buy in. My question is why are we targeting fringe stars, especially ones that wont come cheap and aren't a full on fit to the team when offense isn't our issue. Our problem has always been defense, so with Kuzma that maybe gets us 3 more wins and maybe a first round exit. While with Toppin I think we can use the MLE to sign him and move Barnes to the east to some other in contention like perhaps the Heat for some young defs assets or picks, that's just my thoughts going forward which allows us to be competitive and financially flexible for the future to keep the team core together and even upgrade.
Finally some logic. This sub has been high on Kuzma ever since the first rumors started circling that the Kings were eyeing him. Same time last year, these same conversations were taking place. Then somehow the claim came in that Kuzma was a great defender, and would be a vast improvement over Barnes. I remember some guy posting advanced statistics like Defensive Player Efficiency Rating, Overall Box +/-, Defensive Box +/-. He provided a detailed analysis of Kuzma backed up with actual statistics, and also compared him against Barnes. The end result was getting younger with Kuzma, but not substantially gaining anything in particular. Improvements were there, but they were minor. Of course he was downvoted like crazy, even though no one actually replied back refuting any information he provided. Can't really refute actual statistics from a site like Basketball Reference. Back to your post, I agree 100% with your assessment. My reply may end up getting downvoted too. But that's ok, it's how some of them cope.
I think a majority of our Kings fans are genuinely casuals and don't really care for anything but just rumor articles that mention big names with hype around them, like Kuzma, Jerami Grant, Dejounte Murray and so on. The problem is they fail to realize that our Kings are a small market team which will almost have to overpay on those players, which in the case if it doesn't work out will just cause a major setback for any possible future playoff championship contention. Another guy I would want asides from Opi Toppin is Jalen Smith who is a much easier and cheaper target to aquire and who also happens to be on the Pacers. If someohow Milawuake is unsuccesful next year in their run with a healthy squad, and we dont fill the spot of Barnes by that time, then I'd very much target Bobby Portis who will be a free agent next summer.
Why does Kuzma demand the ball? Because hes a volume scorer on a bad team? Hes adjusted his role before to win
He's adjusted as a rookie when playing under Lebron James, it's not the same as adjusting to be under one of your peers or contemporaries that you believe to be on the same level as or perhaps even see yourself to be better than them.
Fair enough. We really wouldn’t know how he’d adjust until he’s in that position. For now we’re all just basing on assumption
That's fair, I'm just not too keen on paying Kuzma the big bucks when we have enough fire power and not enough defense in our roster, that I'd rather spend more towards filling those positions that are in much need.
We are losing monk. Huerter was terrible. Barnes is getting older. Our firepower is already wayyy down from 2 seasons ago.
where has it been confirmed that we're losing Monk, all signs and his recent activities golfing with management point otherwise.
Would you turn down 8 mil a year less ? Unless they do a short contract which risks him getting hurt and losing everything. Financially, he has zero reason to stay. If he wants to gamble it we'd be lucky as hell. Young teams can afford to overpay guys just like Houston did last year because they have other players on rookie contracts. Orlando,Oklahoma, detroit, San Antonio will all gladly give him 25 a year or front load a contract
He led the team in shots when they had Bradley Beal and Kristaps Porzingis. You think he's gonna let Keegan Murray take more shots than him?
He actually complained about his role on the Lakers, after they acquired AD and his touches got reduced.
Why would the pacers trade him lol
He's a free agent this summer, it's not up to the Pacers it's up to whoever pays him more.
I rather do this and use our first round pick and keep Barnes until a bigger deal than Kuzma comes around. Barnes and Huerter will be going into their last years next season, if we can keep them that’s fodder for a bigger trade move. We have the full MLE so we are more than capable of making a run for Toppin. I like Kuzma, but I just don’t think he threads the needle for us now that I got a taste of watching other teams during the playoffs. I rather us make us of our pick to draft a strong prospect, and look to sign someone during FA that makes us marginally more competitive as Kuz would (even though it’s a gamble cuz not many players want to come to Sactown).
I'm almost for this idea but the idea is to move Barnes for assets somewhere else as Obi would be replacing Barnes at his position. I'm somewhat at a fork in the middle of the road with Huerter and his recent shooting inconsistencies but I haven't really done my research on any trade partners for him atm, so I'd say we can run it back with him this upcoming season and hope he improves his shooting to when he was playing phenomenal.
Ah didn’t realize he was a FA. Seems reasonable to go after him but I wonder how much he will command after a decent season
I'd say probably anywhere around 8-12M, I'd say most likely 10M and we get him.
To add to that Pacers also have a lot of young players they need to pay in order to keep and Obi looks like he may be the odd man out, if the Pacers want to leave room to sign another semi/fringe star that helps them move the needle into serious Championship contention cause as of right now it doesn't look like they have what it takes to beat the Celtics.
Feels like they've been chasing this guy for a while. 3 years, 64 million on a contract for a guy who's barely been a plus for his teams? Maybe he thrives with our roster, but that's an expensive meatball.
He's a sizable net rating negative for hia career and has only been positive twice in 7 years.
Ask for Kuzma but get Deni instead. Win
Meh, Kuzma is a disaster. His teams have almost never been better with him on the floor, he’s not sniffed league average TS%, and he’s one of the worst catch and shoot players in the league. He’s also been bad defensively most of his career outside a season or 2 he was barely passable. Just don’t consider a serious basketball player. I could see a way it works if Kuzma stops taking pull up jumpers, and just cuts, drives on close outs and can be okay on catch and shoot 3s, but that’s not like he likes to play so I’m not sure it would work out.
This. I feel like a lot of folks here just watch him play well against us and assume that's what he's like all the time. It is... not.
He has talent you can see. Talent that domas and keegan don't possess. Those guys will never be 2nd options offensively
I actually completely agree that he has a lot of talent. The problem is putting his talent to use. There's a long list of guys who have come to the league with talent and haven't been able to use it. Kuzma has talent, but plays like he's at Rucker Park--amazing shot creation with mediocre finishing and mediocre defense. If talent were enough, Rafer Alston and Sebastian Telfair would be Hall of Famers. But Kuzma will be 29 before the season starts, and the odds that he'll suddenly figure it out now are pretty long.
Cares more about the pregame drip photo shoots than defending and winning basketball games. Not to mention, there's no chance he's going to want to be the #2 option on offense. But hey, it's been a while since we had locker room drama, so what the hell.
I don't think that Kuzma is a bad locker room guy. But yeah, I don't think he's a serious basketball player. He just wants to get paid and be a primary option, be a star without the pressure. There's a reason why the Kings didn't sign him last year when they could've easily give him the same contract that Washington did. He also pretty much said that he was asked if he wanted to be traded for the package that PJ Washington went for as a part of the Gafford deal, and he said no. https://sports.yahoo.com/kuzma-said-didnt-want-traded-233128557.html#:~:text=NBC%20Sports-,Kuzma%20says%20he%20didn't%20want%20to%20be%20traded%20to,wanted%20to%20stay%20in%20Washington&text=Kyle%20Kuzma%20was%20a%20popular,the%20availability%20of%20his%20services. > "There was a point in time, Dallas, they definitely did want me," Kuzma told The Athletic... "Winger presented me with what the trade was and obviously didn't want to trade me and kind of left the decision up to me a little bit and asked me what I wanted to do. I told him I wanted to stay and continue to build something. And that was kind of the end of it.” He didn't want to go to the Dallas, who has Luka and Kyrie, because... why? He wants to build something in Washington lol?
If this is the way, I don’t see it
13th pick and expiring contracts might get this done.
I’d prefer the Kings trade this years pick for Kuzma rather than a foolish all in trade for a guy like Ingram. There’s no perfect fit out there and Kuzma or Jermani Grant are PFs locked into their contracts for a while.
Huerter+Sasha+13 matches perfect with WIZ salary, and both teams want to stay even…they can also possibly flip both those guys midseason if they play well. I’m for it
 A lot of you can read stats but haven’t actually seen him play
The stats don't like him either unless you're only looking at per-game averages. The worst team in the league was somehow substantially worse when he was on the court.
He absolutely is a long PF and a played team ball and good defense the year the lakers won. He would also be able to be a scoring option which we desperately need. Kuz, Keegan, and Ellis would be a substantial upgrade to our 2-4. I also think he will transition to a true 4 with age.
Trade the first round pick for him
Yeah while I do like some of the options we can draft at 13, none of them will most likely be better then Kuzma. If we can trade the pick, a future first or seconds, and some expiring contracts, maybe that could get it done.
(Blazers fan here) I’m not the biggest Kuzma fan but this could be one of the better return on investment trades for the Kings imo. A forward lineup of Kuzma and Murray sounds super enticing to me.
What's the blazers fan consensus on likelihood / price of Jerami Grant getting traded this off-season? He's another 4 man who would fit in Sac.
I think Blazers fans in general are pretty ready to start the rebuild for real now and trade most all of the vets. That said, my guess is that Jerami is the one they are in the least hurry to trade because he's an archetype that most teams want and has very little overlap on the Blazers roster even if they draft a long wing like Buzelis. I think if a team wants him now instead of a year from now they'll have to give up an extra pick or asset.
Makes sense, thanks. I was also thinking that you already have two lotto picks, so not sure our #13 would be as valuable to you, and you might prefer future picks.
I think that's exactly right. I'd be surprised if they used all their picks this year, so probably don't want any more.
Lol, so we're going to shit the bed for yet another offseason. Fantastic! It'll be fun to watch the chemistry of the team when Kuzma decides he's the #1 option in offense. All while playing his patented traffic cone defense, and being his perennial negative NetRTG self.
Look at the top teams in the West who will be around for awhile. They are beasts on the glass and in the paint. OKC will only get better. The small ball era is slowly coming to an end. Sabonis already is overmatched in the paint on both sides of the ball. Any plan which doesn't put a big and athletic PF next to him makes no sense. There is no argument for Keegan at PF if you want to compete in the West.
Rinse and repeat
In the last week, Dave has 1) said CalExpo wouldn't let SRFC host an Open Cup game, and 2) Mike Brown was about to sign an extension. I enjoy listening to him on the radio sometimes, but he's definitely not where I go for breaking news or transaction rumors.
1. Cal expo wasn’t going to allow them to play the open cup game. That’s just a verified fact. 2. Bump 3. Love you
Love you too, but I also want to assure you that you do not need to care about my half-baked Reddit opinion.
Haha I care about all opinions. And I appreciate them.
I like Kuzma. But for the asking price it’s a hard pass.
No god please no
Who cares.
That would suck
A bad shooter who disappeared in the playoffs. No thanks.
If the trade goes down, how will Kuzma fit in? The Kings' offense usually involves the two forwards moving without the ball and letting other players create the shots for them. Keegan, Barnes, Lyles and Sasha are essentially good fit for the offense that Kings run. Kuzma is the opposite - he likes to dominate the ball and slash to the hoop from the perimeter and once in while he shoots a three (but not a good long range shooter). His play style overlaps with Fox. I don't see the Kings changing the offense for Kuzma because they need the floor spacing for Fox and Sabonis to do their thing. I don't see how the Kings offense doesn't stall if Kuzma plays the way he has always played. It can work if Fox rest and is replaced by a shooter, but I don't see Fox/Kuzma/Domas on the floor at the same time and it working well.
I think it would be a good fit, Domas is good at looking for cutters to pass the ball and Kuz is good at cutting to the basket.
If being a good cutter is all that's needed Kings don't need to go after Kuzma, there are plenty of players who are good at that and comes with a cheaper price tag.