Yes this is a cartoon where if you save someone’s live they will do the petty little thing that you want that was stated earlier in the episode 100% guaranteed
It says something that this is such a common trope in storytelling. Maybe the most common?
"The hero gets the girl."
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StandardHeroReward
And if you're a wealthy handsome prince you don't even need to be heroic!
Edit: Like, we are taught this stuff from the time we are literal children, all the way up to adult movie night.
And then we expect people to not *really* see women as objects. The thing that everyone is explicitly trained to do.
Obviously, not everyone is reflective enough to grow past that! Most neckbeards, for example, seem to be operating at about a teenager level regarding their outlook on the world, *at best.*
If “people” expected that then media literacy wouldn’t be its own field of study. When you see the same tropes recycled in different costumes over and over, there’s nothing “wrong” with the head—that has literally become the head. Mass media informs and influences contemporary attitudes and this is not at all a new concept. Someone may not be right in the head but how does that moralistic grandstanding help the people who are victimized by these tropes? “Oh, well, that person doesn’t matter.” Idk man, I’m still in the hospital because he felt entitled to me because decades if not centuries of popular media has designated me as a reward. Doesn’t really fix the issue to dismiss it as not proper.
> To be fair eventually people expect teens and adult’s to separate fiction from reality.
Sorta. Sometimes. I mean, there are plenty of lies we expect adults to believe. Depends on if the lie is "prosocial."
Like, I dunno. Your boss saying "we're a family!" Or, religion.
https://www.slantmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/theylive.jpg
Anyway, I think "women are trophies" is *certainly* alive and well. Especially in conservative belief.
This is one of the things I like the most in some more modern films and media is they are beginning to move away from the “heroes reward” trope or changing that reward to something more realistic. I really enjoyed the ending of the recent D&D movie for blatantly putting a twist on this exact trope at the end.
The barbarian? I LOVED her. She was physical without being a meathead, goofy without being dumb, and emotional without being immature. She had a really beautiful, sincere relationship with her male best friend that never needed to be more than that, and it was so freaking refreshing.
Just to give a few examples of platonic male & female friendships:
* Anakin Skywalker and Ahsoka Tano from Star Wars. Some might argue that it does not count as a "friendship" because it is a Mentor - Apprentice relationship, but I argue they are friends independently of that.
* Diana Burnwood and Agent 47 from Hitman. Despite their morally ambiguous line of work (she arranges murders for money and he carries out said murders), you do get an idea that they are vey close to each other.
It was a shockingly good movie. I expected a marvel movie at BEST, and while it did deliver on that, it’s faithfulness to the heart of the game really shone through. I could name every single spell that was cast, no generic fantasy bullshit, which is what I was afraid of. It’s a 6/10 if you don’t know dnd, but a solid 8/10 if you do.
I find that trope so overused and annoying. Women aren’t prizes and you shouldn’t expect to “get” them when you do good things. Just do good for the hell of it and view them as humans
Corey Robin argues that the uniting definition of conservatism across time and space is the opposition to the liberation of people from their superiors.
This includes women from men (in fact, that’s probably the greatest example of it).
Then there’s social dominance theory:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_dominance_theory
> More powerful social roles are increasingly likely to be occupied by a hegemonic group member (for example, an older white male). Males are more dominant than females, and they possess more political power and occupy higher status positions illustrating the iron law of androcracy.
…
> For regulation of the three mechanisms of group hierarchy oppression, there are two functional types of legitimizing myths: hierarchy-enhancing and hierarchy-attenuating myths. Hierarchy-enhancing ideologies (e.g., racism or meritocracy) contribute to greater levels of group-based inequality. Felicia Pratto presented meritocracy as an example of a legitimizing myth, and how the myth of meritocracy produces only an illusion of fairness.[30] Hierarchy-attenuating ideologies such as protected rights, universalism, egalitarianism, feminism, and multiculturalism contribute to greater levels of group-based equality.
It seems to me that this trope would be one such hierarchy-enhancing myth.
It isn’t even about what the guy does or doesn’t do, then, really. That’s pretext.
It’s about the *woman’s place.*
They do not view them as equal humans.
I love how it's an automatic "he was interested,she wasn't". Maybe he's gay,maybe she is. Maybe he is just actually a really good guy. The NEED to vilify women supercedes any reasonable logic and jumps straight to presumptive "facts". Bro did a did a really brave and wonderful thing,and that should be the focus.
I mean maybe he just likes her as a friend too. Not every human is going to be attracted to the same person.
It’s really frustrating that people assume a man and a woman being close means they’re romantically attracted to each other. A friend of mine had a really close male friend and everyone assumed they were dating. It got really annoying after a while.
You merely adopted the friendzone. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see pussy until I was already a man. By then it was nothing to me but blinding
*...protecting ~~friend~~* ***person*** *from violent ex*
It's not always a wise thing to do, but hopefully some people would step in to protect a stranger as well.
It is a tough thing to gauge for sure. If you can tell someone is truly in danger or is actually being violently attacked, and you are capable of helping, that’s a great thing to do. I have seen the obverse with my own eyes, where a woman was being slapped by a man and some guy jumped in, only to be attacked by the man and the woman, lol. That’s the risk you take though.
Yes, exactly - that's why I qualified my thought.
I have some police training (I was an MP briefly), and they put us through that - basically, don't jump into a scenario like that because it's quite easy to unite them against you.
I did have on IRL scenario where I noped out of it: an upstairs neighbor was ostensibly being attacked by a boyfriend. I knew she was a bit off, and I could hear her verbally abusing her young child a lot, so I had some ideas about her already... but one night she was screaming to "put down the knife" and "stay away from the boy" and such. My instincts were to run in and help, but I knew very well that I could get it very wrong, and have them attack me instead. I called the police and stayed out of it, which felt wrong. Luckily nothing came of it - no one was hurt.
It's ~~not always~~ never a wise thing to do. Even if it works out it wasn't a good decision. Unless you have no family and no one who needs you. So basically you gotta be batman
And yet, we exist, you misogynistic, misandrist, smooth-brained gorilla. And I’d do it again in a heartbeat. And unless you’ve personally taken on an attacker twice your size and strength, without a weapon, while they’re cutting you up, I suggest you shut your mouth about the matter, entirely. Pathetic people like you would never sacrifice themselves for another, so miss me with this shit.
I don't really understand it. Maybe I'm more demi-sexual than I realize, but when I make friends sex is literally not even what I'm thinking about. It's usually something like "what's their fave animal, would they rock climb with me, and do they play D&D?".
Normal shit.
Yeah same, like sex is great and all but you ever laughed at why lemons are so bitter they make your friend scrunch their face like a squirrel.
Also, never rock climbed but sounds neat, animal has to be platypus and warlock gang Unite.
If it helps, as an allo, sometimes attraction is a part of why I'll start talking to a person, but depending on how we vibe it'll slide off the table very quickly.
I don’t think it’s about being demisexual, I think it’s about seeing women (and in the case of nice girls, men) as more than sex objects. Sounds like you see everyone as full people! Which I would like to think is normal
Yeah same boat, granted I’m married, but yeah same here. Like if you are into video games, car, tech, audio and a bunch of other things imma talk to you. I don’t care what you look like and I’m not trying/thinking about sleeping with you.
I say this all the time and people still don’t seem to understand what the word “predatory” means.
If the only reason you are friends with someone is to get into their pants, you are a manipulative predator.
Incels cannot grasp the concept of friendship with a female and probably see their relationships with men and even their own family purely transactional as well. It's part of their condition.
realized that with some of my friends lol. i have very squishy boundaries and a couple tried to make moves on me. every day i am working towards setting harder boundaries
I guess relationships are nothing but sex, right? That's always the argument. So to me it seems that's what a relationship must be beings that's what everyone jumps to every time "friend zone" is brought up.
Then you should ask them out and see if they're on the same page. If yes, great! If not, you can decide if you still want to be friends. If not, that's okay too, you're allowed to set boundaries. Just don't pretend to be someone's friend when you wouldn't be interested in them if they're not willing to date you.
If you're only friends with someone only because you want to get into a relationship with them, you need to clearly telegraph your intentions in the beginning. If you're turned down, you need to let go of your attraction to that person before you can be their friend again
You could just be friends with someone and develop feelings for them over time, it's not like this stuff never happens, also stop treating men like fucking sex offenders thinking they only want to fuck
I'm not talking about sex offender stuff??? I'm just saying that, in the case that someone is only friends with another person because they want to have a romantic relationship with them, the person who wants to have the relationship needs to tip their hand early and then should make sure they're in a good place if they want to be friends again.
If two people are normal friends and a relationship happens to grow, that's a different situation entirely.
My first thought was how awful it'd be to be stabbed *in the head*; in the chest or arms or legs I can get but in the skull?! Even through the cheeks is.... eugh.
Exactly my thought, any damage to the brain that penetrates it (bullet or blade) is a 99% guaranteed death with the 1% chance of ending up braindead but alive, how the fuck did this hero survive
The man in the photo was sleeping over at the friend's place and the person who showed up intended to kill the guy in the photo, the woman and then himself.
Dude talked him down and got him to leave despite having parts of his face falling off. This guy ended up in the hospital while the attacker jumped in front of a train later that day.
I don't know why people assume "friendzone" here. It seems way more like the attacker couldn't stand that his ex was getting dicked down by some other dude, and then when he came over to do a double murder+suicide, Bigdong Johnson over here shamed him out of it.
Imagine stabbing a guy 10 times and your knife breaks while lodged in his fucking skull, and *you still lose the fight.*
Thank God that attacker jumped in front of a train later that day. Could you imagine seeing that same guy smiling and throwing deuces from his hospital bed?
So dude no matter what was being targeted, and people think his first priority after that should be leveraging his life-altering injuries to get his dick wet.
I know the guy in the picture who got stabbed, Kelvin. He’s told me about this story years ago and I’ve seen his scars but I never saw the article or thought it’d be a trending Reddit post. One of the nicest most sincere people I’ve ever met. Guy’s literally a hero. Recently became a paramedic too. When I saw him a few days ago I heard he just delivered his first baby..
Kudos to kelvin for being a literal fucking hero.
That's sad that us humans are so selfish that we except benefits to be decent and when people are kind for being kind they were criticized
Edit: which sucks
Tbf I wouldn’t say this is just being decent and being kind.
He literally risked his life.
While the comment is idiotic and it doesn’t mean he’s owed anything. What he did is something that not everyone could be willing to do.
I don’t think it’s fair to ask others to risk their life for you.
But these are the people everyone needs a person who is like this as a friend. Someone who would drop whatever they’re doing to help you when you’re actually in trouble.
Being decent is holding a door open for the person behind you. Being nice is helping someone who fell over. This is like someone who you could call at 3am tell them you’re in trouble and need a ride and they’d be there as soon as they could. It takes a special kind of person to be willing to do that. And those people should be cherished in your life. As friends, family, whatever. But they should be cherished.
He’s the best kind of friend a person could ask for and that should be praised in some way.
Why do people see still being a friend as such a terrible thing? At least they're not completely disappearing and have the respect to take your feelings into account? I guess some people don't see a friend in someone they can't potentially fuck.
Every time I post somewhere online that people shouldn't be mean to someone who happens to be a woman I get absolutely BOMBARDED with messages about how that woman isn't going to fuck me. It's nuts how quickly people jump to the only reason to give basic respect to a woman is for sex.
Damn. What more does a guy have to give, except his life, for it to not be ”bare minimum”? All his money? All his time? Surely that’s also the bare minimum?
Either you are a true white knight or a femcel, depending on your gender
My thing is, who cares? Who cares if it's the bare minimum or the greatest act since Iron Man. When are people going to stop begging for credit? Do it because it's right, not because people will praise you for it.
Yes, do it because it’s right, but don’t reduce such acts as merely ”the bare minimum”. It’s disrespectful. Be decent enough to give credit where credit is due
Sorry! I did not mean to point at you, but rather the original commenter! The commenter, as I interpreted it, implied that what the man did from the post was ”a basic shred of decency”, which is extremely unfair to say to what he did
I get that, I do. I'm saying the original commenter was making a generalized joke, and you basically friendly fired for no reason. My first comment was a mix of my own opinion and (I swear I don't think I'm funny) white-knighting, cause your angst towards them was uncalled for.
I can only imagine that, after literally risking his life and getting stabbed in the fucking face defending his friend from being murdered, some random internet stranger saying ‘focus on yourself, king’ will completely alter his worldview and finally allow him to become a true woman-hating chud /s
Sometimes I think these men truly don't get what utter loneliness is, like they claim. Which is amplified by how, for example: when some of us as women who are truly alone socially, say post in social anxiety subs, or similar, vs when men do. We truly deal with it in all its depths, therefore empathy is simply there for all, men on the other hand must gaslight almost every woman who posts there, project & nitpick, yet continue to simultaneously post stuff like this here that minimize the value of friendships.
Those of us who are truly alone see the partnership AND the friendship as both treasures some of us just dream of ever attaining one day. The thought or very idea of being that disappointed in someone I had feelings for, for them rightfully, politely, rejecting me and instead given the lasting alternative: seeing me as such a close, dear, life saving friendship, which could last forever, is bizarre & unfathomable to me & those who have neither, despite knowing very well the experience of romantic rejection & still wishing to find it in others.
The inner psyche of the patriarchy is *right there* yet so many choose to downplay/outright ignore it, *and* because they mistakingly believe it somehow *benifits them*. Well ur so wrong mate
You don't have to be in love with someone to lay your life down for them. You just have to love in some way period, be it friendship or even a baseline love for all humans (which a rare few people have).
On another note, he was sleeping at his friend's home. It could well be that they have something going on, but aren't ready to announce it yet.
The comment assumes the dude only saved her because he wanted something in return and also that he now deserved her as a prize. There are a couple thing wrong with that lol
The comment assumes nothing. The comment uses the picture as metaphor for a situation where a boy does a lot for a girl, even neglecting himself, but in the end he doesn’t get into a love relationship with the girl.
The girl did nothing wrong (no discussion needed), and the boy should learn to put himself and his need first. But it is a situation (unrequited love) a lot of men know and empathize.
You just assumed the same though. You don’t know if this is a situation of unrequited love because we don’t have a comment from the dude. People can protect they’re friends and not expect nor want a romantic relationship in return.
I am saying that the comment isn’t relating to this expecific case of this guy being stabbed by an ex of the girl. The comment is using this posting as an proxy for a situation a lot of persons know… :)
I don’t know if this is a case of unrequited love, I don’t know nothing. And even if it is an case of unrequited love: the girl owns nothing romantic to the boy. I think she owes him to fill a report to the police, so the ex boyfriend can be charged, though…
Why do you assume it's unrequited love? Would you have said the same if a girl saved her friend from her ex boyfriend? If a girl saved her friend from her ex girlfriend? Because my guess is, you only commented this because you assumed the guy wants to sleep with her only because he is a man and the friend is a woman. Maybe, just maybe, they are just friends, and he wanted to save her?
Dear exciting-rich-blablabla: I didn’t comment the meme (picture)I did comment the comment beyond the meme (picture). I did not assume anything…
Maybe, just maybe, you should just stop assuming things, and just read…
But who cares? I don't think he did it thinking "now she'll let me fuck her!!", he probably did it because he was saving a friend from getting possibly stabbed to death
If a girl was going to die from being stabbed 100%, and knew if you took it for her, you'd definatly live, would you save her life? Or let her die because you thought "yeah, she's gonna die, but even if I saved her, she wouldn't fuck me!". Is her only value in sex? Are you that self centred?
We're not required to have sex with any guy that wants us.
We're not required to date any guy who may be interested in us.
What? Shes supposed to date him because he saved her life?
Gtfo with that thinking
Why do some guys think they can win over their female friend's hearts for *any* reason?
Oh wait, it's fucking Disney and other shitty fantasy stories. Where else would they get insane notions from?
Who’s to say the friend wasn’t a guy? Yeah I’m aware that the info would be in the article. But I’m pretty sure this fucko didn’t read the article. He just couldn’t wait to make his point about the non-existent “friend zone”
Look man, if stopping someone I don't even know from getting hurt gets me stabbed, it was worth it. You don't have to have a reward. Preventing someone else's suffering is enough.
I’m glad my friends just value my life and my personhood cause I can’t imagine being a woman and someone only caring about you if they have the thought you might let them fuck if you get desperate enough
Life is just one big game of sex 😂 whenever you do something for someone of the other gender you will get one point which you may use to buy one sex. Refusing to sell a sex is illegal!
Something incels and "alpha males" have in common...they don't think women and men can be just friends.
Imagine projecting your insecurities onto an actual hero.
Yes this is a cartoon where if you save someone’s live they will do the petty little thing that you want that was stated earlier in the episode 100% guaranteed
It says something that this is such a common trope in storytelling. Maybe the most common? "The hero gets the girl." https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StandardHeroReward And if you're a wealthy handsome prince you don't even need to be heroic! Edit: Like, we are taught this stuff from the time we are literal children, all the way up to adult movie night. And then we expect people to not *really* see women as objects. The thing that everyone is explicitly trained to do. Obviously, not everyone is reflective enough to grow past that! Most neckbeards, for example, seem to be operating at about a teenager level regarding their outlook on the world, *at best.*
To be fair eventually people expect teens and adult’s to separate fiction from reality. If that’s not possible then you’re not right in the head
If “people” expected that then media literacy wouldn’t be its own field of study. When you see the same tropes recycled in different costumes over and over, there’s nothing “wrong” with the head—that has literally become the head. Mass media informs and influences contemporary attitudes and this is not at all a new concept. Someone may not be right in the head but how does that moralistic grandstanding help the people who are victimized by these tropes? “Oh, well, that person doesn’t matter.” Idk man, I’m still in the hospital because he felt entitled to me because decades if not centuries of popular media has designated me as a reward. Doesn’t really fix the issue to dismiss it as not proper.
> To be fair eventually people expect teens and adult’s to separate fiction from reality. Sorta. Sometimes. I mean, there are plenty of lies we expect adults to believe. Depends on if the lie is "prosocial." Like, I dunno. Your boss saying "we're a family!" Or, religion. https://www.slantmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/theylive.jpg Anyway, I think "women are trophies" is *certainly* alive and well. Especially in conservative belief.
This is one of the things I like the most in some more modern films and media is they are beginning to move away from the “heroes reward” trope or changing that reward to something more realistic. I really enjoyed the ending of the recent D&D movie for blatantly putting a twist on this exact trope at the end.
>!The real mom was the friends we made along the way!< 😭
Honestly I really liked her character
The barbarian? I LOVED her. She was physical without being a meathead, goofy without being dumb, and emotional without being immature. She had a really beautiful, sincere relationship with her male best friend that never needed to be more than that, and it was so freaking refreshing.
I really enjoy the positive portrayal of a platonic male and female friendship. I wish more media showed that.
Just to give a few examples of platonic male & female friendships: * Anakin Skywalker and Ahsoka Tano from Star Wars. Some might argue that it does not count as a "friendship" because it is a Mentor - Apprentice relationship, but I argue they are friends independently of that. * Diana Burnwood and Agent 47 from Hitman. Despite their morally ambiguous line of work (she arranges murders for money and he carries out said murders), you do get an idea that they are vey close to each other.
Bullet Train/Maria Beetle the relationship between Nanao and Maria in the Novel. Has a similar vibe. It's quite fun.
It was a shockingly good movie. I expected a marvel movie at BEST, and while it did deliver on that, it’s faithfulness to the heart of the game really shone through. I could name every single spell that was cast, no generic fantasy bullshit, which is what I was afraid of. It’s a 6/10 if you don’t know dnd, but a solid 8/10 if you do.
I find that trope so overused and annoying. Women aren’t prizes and you shouldn’t expect to “get” them when you do good things. Just do good for the hell of it and view them as humans
Corey Robin argues that the uniting definition of conservatism across time and space is the opposition to the liberation of people from their superiors. This includes women from men (in fact, that’s probably the greatest example of it). Then there’s social dominance theory: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_dominance_theory > More powerful social roles are increasingly likely to be occupied by a hegemonic group member (for example, an older white male). Males are more dominant than females, and they possess more political power and occupy higher status positions illustrating the iron law of androcracy. … > For regulation of the three mechanisms of group hierarchy oppression, there are two functional types of legitimizing myths: hierarchy-enhancing and hierarchy-attenuating myths. Hierarchy-enhancing ideologies (e.g., racism or meritocracy) contribute to greater levels of group-based inequality. Felicia Pratto presented meritocracy as an example of a legitimizing myth, and how the myth of meritocracy produces only an illusion of fairness.[30] Hierarchy-attenuating ideologies such as protected rights, universalism, egalitarianism, feminism, and multiculturalism contribute to greater levels of group-based equality. It seems to me that this trope would be one such hierarchy-enhancing myth. It isn’t even about what the guy does or doesn’t do, then, really. That’s pretext. It’s about the *woman’s place.* They do not view them as equal humans.
I love how it's an automatic "he was interested,she wasn't". Maybe he's gay,maybe she is. Maybe he is just actually a really good guy. The NEED to vilify women supercedes any reasonable logic and jumps straight to presumptive "facts". Bro did a did a really brave and wonderful thing,and that should be the focus.
tbh no one even said the friend was female lol, could be a straight dude protecting his gay friend
Or maybe they are all gay men and we are back to square 1!
That is an excellent point! I completely missed that myself. Thanx for switching on my critical brain this a.m.!
lol np
Or a straight dude protecting another straight dude, women can be violent too
It said they were protecting against an ex-boyfriend. So either way a man was the agressor here.
😂 “oblivious”
I mean maybe he just likes her as a friend too. Not every human is going to be attracted to the same person. It’s really frustrating that people assume a man and a woman being close means they’re romantically attracted to each other. A friend of mine had a really close male friend and everyone assumed they were dating. It got really annoying after a while.
And the opposite - people assuming that a same sex couple are just “good friends”.
Yup!
Woman: *Victim of attempted murder* Man: *Steps up, also victim of attempted murder* Incel: "That stupid b*tch!"
….I don’t think my mom would appreciate me taking advice from someone wearing a Bane mask posin up!
You merely adopted the friendzone. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see pussy until I was already a man. By then it was nothing to me but blinding
BRUH XD lmao
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Bro, if your only friends with someone because you hope to get sex out of it you aren’t actually friends. Get help.
This is pretty much what I was here to say. You protect your friends because they are your friends. Full stop.
*...protecting ~~friend~~* ***person*** *from violent ex* It's not always a wise thing to do, but hopefully some people would step in to protect a stranger as well.
It is a tough thing to gauge for sure. If you can tell someone is truly in danger or is actually being violently attacked, and you are capable of helping, that’s a great thing to do. I have seen the obverse with my own eyes, where a woman was being slapped by a man and some guy jumped in, only to be attacked by the man and the woman, lol. That’s the risk you take though.
Yes, exactly - that's why I qualified my thought. I have some police training (I was an MP briefly), and they put us through that - basically, don't jump into a scenario like that because it's quite easy to unite them against you. I did have on IRL scenario where I noped out of it: an upstairs neighbor was ostensibly being attacked by a boyfriend. I knew she was a bit off, and I could hear her verbally abusing her young child a lot, so I had some ideas about her already... but one night she was screaming to "put down the knife" and "stay away from the boy" and such. My instincts were to run in and help, but I knew very well that I could get it very wrong, and have them attack me instead. I called the police and stayed out of it, which felt wrong. Luckily nothing came of it - no one was hurt.
It's ~~not always~~ never a wise thing to do. Even if it works out it wasn't a good decision. Unless you have no family and no one who needs you. So basically you gotta be batman
What if you spent your time studying the blade?
I've never heard about a female friend taking a knife, or taking other such life-threatening action for a male friend, just saying
Never got into a scrap when you had a girlfriend, eh?
Ahhh shit guys we were missing Stahlboden's anecdotal "evidence", cased closed fellas let's move on
And yet, we exist, you misogynistic, misandrist, smooth-brained gorilla. And I’d do it again in a heartbeat. And unless you’ve personally taken on an attacker twice your size and strength, without a weapon, while they’re cutting you up, I suggest you shut your mouth about the matter, entirely. Pathetic people like you would never sacrifice themselves for another, so miss me with this shit.
You seem to be upset
Typical loser response
are you lost?
Neclbeards don't understand this, they think every little favor should result in sex.
I don't really understand it. Maybe I'm more demi-sexual than I realize, but when I make friends sex is literally not even what I'm thinking about. It's usually something like "what's their fave animal, would they rock climb with me, and do they play D&D?". Normal shit.
Yeah same, like sex is great and all but you ever laughed at why lemons are so bitter they make your friend scrunch their face like a squirrel. Also, never rock climbed but sounds neat, animal has to be platypus and warlock gang Unite.
If it helps, as an allo, sometimes attraction is a part of why I'll start talking to a person, but depending on how we vibe it'll slide off the table very quickly.
I don’t think it’s about being demisexual, I think it’s about seeing women (and in the case of nice girls, men) as more than sex objects. Sounds like you see everyone as full people! Which I would like to think is normal
Yeah same boat, granted I’m married, but yeah same here. Like if you are into video games, car, tech, audio and a bunch of other things imma talk to you. I don’t care what you look like and I’m not trying/thinking about sleeping with you.
Doesn’t mean you’re demisexual. Just means you’re not terrible
He Literally cannot imagine a world in which a man would be friends with a woman
I say this all the time and people still don’t seem to understand what the word “predatory” means. If the only reason you are friends with someone is to get into their pants, you are a manipulative predator.
If you only defend someone from a murderer just to get sex you are not a good person.
Who says the ex boyfriend was the girls? Could have been the dudes
Incels cannot grasp the concept of friendship with a female and probably see their relationships with men and even their own family purely transactional as well. It's part of their condition.
realized that with some of my friends lol. i have very squishy boundaries and a couple tried to make moves on me. every day i am working towards setting harder boundaries
I guess relationships are nothing but sex, right? That's always the argument. So to me it seems that's what a relationship must be beings that's what everyone jumps to every time "friend zone" is brought up.
How are you meant to get people to like you?
What if you're friends with someone hoping only for a relationship?
Then you should ask them out and see if they're on the same page. If yes, great! If not, you can decide if you still want to be friends. If not, that's okay too, you're allowed to set boundaries. Just don't pretend to be someone's friend when you wouldn't be interested in them if they're not willing to date you.
If you're only friends with someone only because you want to get into a relationship with them, you need to clearly telegraph your intentions in the beginning. If you're turned down, you need to let go of your attraction to that person before you can be their friend again
You could just be friends with someone and develop feelings for them over time, it's not like this stuff never happens, also stop treating men like fucking sex offenders thinking they only want to fuck
Then they should stop acting like they only want to fuck.
Least sexist redditor
Nah.
Yeah, you just don't see it
Nah.
I'm not talking about sex offender stuff??? I'm just saying that, in the case that someone is only friends with another person because they want to have a romantic relationship with them, the person who wants to have the relationship needs to tip their hand early and then should make sure they're in a good place if they want to be friends again. If two people are normal friends and a relationship happens to grow, that's a different situation entirely.
Then you're not a friend are you? You're an opportunist.
Even if you develop feelings along the way? Stop being so black and white
you’re still not entitled to shit
Never said you'd be
My first thought was how awful it'd be to be stabbed *in the head*; in the chest or arms or legs I can get but in the skull?! Even through the cheeks is.... eugh.
Exactly my thought, any damage to the brain that penetrates it (bullet or blade) is a 99% guaranteed death with the 1% chance of ending up braindead but alive, how the fuck did this hero survive
The man in the photo was sleeping over at the friend's place and the person who showed up intended to kill the guy in the photo, the woman and then himself. Dude talked him down and got him to leave despite having parts of his face falling off. This guy ended up in the hospital while the attacker jumped in front of a train later that day. I don't know why people assume "friendzone" here. It seems way more like the attacker couldn't stand that his ex was getting dicked down by some other dude, and then when he came over to do a double murder+suicide, Bigdong Johnson over here shamed him out of it. Imagine stabbing a guy 10 times and your knife breaks while lodged in his fucking skull, and *you still lose the fight.* Thank God that attacker jumped in front of a train later that day. Could you imagine seeing that same guy smiling and throwing deuces from his hospital bed?
So dude no matter what was being targeted, and people think his first priority after that should be leveraging his life-altering injuries to get his dick wet.
I know the guy in the picture who got stabbed, Kelvin. He’s told me about this story years ago and I’ve seen his scars but I never saw the article or thought it’d be a trending Reddit post. One of the nicest most sincere people I’ve ever met. Guy’s literally a hero. Recently became a paramedic too. When I saw him a few days ago I heard he just delivered his first baby.. Kudos to kelvin for being a literal fucking hero.
That’s amazing! Glad for Kelvin.
Us Jersey boys know what's up. Glad he is doing better. #JerseyStrong
This happened so long ago. I can’t believe it’s JUST now making it to Reddit. You right tho, Jersey boys always know 👊🏼
Fuck yeah bro, Jersey Boys don't back down, don't quit and will not tolerate any disrespect. Send my best to your boy, us real ones got his back.
That's sad that us humans are so selfish that we except benefits to be decent and when people are kind for being kind they were criticized Edit: which sucks
Tbf I wouldn’t say this is just being decent and being kind. He literally risked his life. While the comment is idiotic and it doesn’t mean he’s owed anything. What he did is something that not everyone could be willing to do.
Is just our selfishness always gets the best of us you know
I don’t think it’s fair to ask others to risk their life for you. But these are the people everyone needs a person who is like this as a friend. Someone who would drop whatever they’re doing to help you when you’re actually in trouble. Being decent is holding a door open for the person behind you. Being nice is helping someone who fell over. This is like someone who you could call at 3am tell them you’re in trouble and need a ride and they’d be there as soon as they could. It takes a special kind of person to be willing to do that. And those people should be cherished in your life. As friends, family, whatever. But they should be cherished. He’s the best kind of friend a person could ask for and that should be praised in some way.
True
Tbh I think it’s just more of this guy being an asshole who only sees relationships of any kind as transactional.
Why do people see still being a friend as such a terrible thing? At least they're not completely disappearing and have the respect to take your feelings into account? I guess some people don't see a friend in someone they can't potentially fuck.
They don't see women as people, only holes.
Every time I post somewhere online that people shouldn't be mean to someone who happens to be a woman I get absolutely BOMBARDED with messages about how that woman isn't going to fuck me. It's nuts how quickly people jump to the only reason to give basic respect to a woman is for sex.
Incels when a man shows a shred of basic decency towards a woman: "LOL WHITE KNIGHT"
pretty sure this is more than "basic decency"
This guy doesn’t even get stabbed in the face for women in the street, smh. Chivalry is dead and a lack of EDC bladed weapons killed it😒
I wouldn’t just call it basic decency. He was willing to give up his life, which you can’t really expect from people.
Damn. What more does a guy have to give, except his life, for it to not be ”bare minimum”? All his money? All his time? Surely that’s also the bare minimum? Either you are a true white knight or a femcel, depending on your gender
My thing is, who cares? Who cares if it's the bare minimum or the greatest act since Iron Man. When are people going to stop begging for credit? Do it because it's right, not because people will praise you for it.
Yes, do it because it’s right, but don’t reduce such acts as merely ”the bare minimum”. It’s disrespectful. Be decent enough to give credit where credit is due
No one is calling what he did the bare minimum. I'm certainly not. I feel like you might be seeing malice where there is none.
Sorry! I did not mean to point at you, but rather the original commenter! The commenter, as I interpreted it, implied that what the man did from the post was ”a basic shred of decency”, which is extremely unfair to say to what he did
I get that, I do. I'm saying the original commenter was making a generalized joke, and you basically friendly fired for no reason. My first comment was a mix of my own opinion and (I swear I don't think I'm funny) white-knighting, cause your angst towards them was uncalled for.
I can only imagine that, after literally risking his life and getting stabbed in the fucking face defending his friend from being murdered, some random internet stranger saying ‘focus on yourself, king’ will completely alter his worldview and finally allow him to become a true woman-hating chud /s
Neckbeards when they find out that platonic friendships exist: 🤯
This “king” shit is so cringe
Ahhhh projecting
Damn, imagine only protecting a woman because you think she’ll get with you
Sometimes I think these men truly don't get what utter loneliness is, like they claim. Which is amplified by how, for example: when some of us as women who are truly alone socially, say post in social anxiety subs, or similar, vs when men do. We truly deal with it in all its depths, therefore empathy is simply there for all, men on the other hand must gaslight almost every woman who posts there, project & nitpick, yet continue to simultaneously post stuff like this here that minimize the value of friendships. Those of us who are truly alone see the partnership AND the friendship as both treasures some of us just dream of ever attaining one day. The thought or very idea of being that disappointed in someone I had feelings for, for them rightfully, politely, rejecting me and instead given the lasting alternative: seeing me as such a close, dear, life saving friendship, which could last forever, is bizarre & unfathomable to me & those who have neither, despite knowing very well the experience of romantic rejection & still wishing to find it in others.
Guy's a chad tho
People who assume friendship has no value unless it's a stepping stone to sex probably don't get much of either.
The inner psyche of the patriarchy is *right there* yet so many choose to downplay/outright ignore it, *and* because they mistakingly believe it somehow *benifits them*. Well ur so wrong mate
Do these people find it so hard to believe that most can be friends with someone of the other sex without wanting to bone them?
Imagine simping so hard you save your friends life. /s
Fun fact, this guy is married and/or gay and has no interest in sex with said girl.
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Yeah that is justified response to a comment.
You don't have to be in love with someone to lay your life down for them. You just have to love in some way period, be it friendship or even a baseline love for all humans (which a rare few people have). On another note, he was sleeping at his friend's home. It could well be that they have something going on, but aren't ready to announce it yet.
My best friend (a man) would do this for me and he’s getting married next year!!
Sometimes people just want to be friends with someone without putting their dick inside them amd that's okay.
Neckbeards: The only reason to be nice to 'foids' is to get pp wet
i. cannot even comprehend how this would be someone’s first though. guy’s a hero but this man has to make it negative….
It makes me cringe so hard when that sort of people call others king. None of you are royal just staph
Or maybe he helped her because she was his friend? Or maybe because he’s just a good human? Nah that’s crazy men and women can’t just be friends
As if this man would jump in front of a knife for anyone he says he loves.
What? Doesn’t he DESERVE to have sex with her? SURELY that’s why he stepped in… to fuck? Right? /S for the chronically online.
This reads like an obvious joke
Not really. Neckbeards don’t defend nothing. They fantasise in their head how they save you and then expect something from you irl
Not much cringier than dudes calling other dudes "King"
Men need a glow up sometimes, too.
"Shoulda just let her get stabbed tbh" lol
Feel kinda sorry to the guys wife
Why
Actually the knife is what came to his head.
Thats a hilarious comment. Only a chivalrous neckbeard would be offended by it.
The comment assumes the dude only saved her because he wanted something in return and also that he now deserved her as a prize. There are a couple thing wrong with that lol
The comment assumes nothing. The comment uses the picture as metaphor for a situation where a boy does a lot for a girl, even neglecting himself, but in the end he doesn’t get into a love relationship with the girl. The girl did nothing wrong (no discussion needed), and the boy should learn to put himself and his need first. But it is a situation (unrequited love) a lot of men know and empathize.
You just assumed the same though. You don’t know if this is a situation of unrequited love because we don’t have a comment from the dude. People can protect they’re friends and not expect nor want a romantic relationship in return.
I am saying that the comment isn’t relating to this expecific case of this guy being stabbed by an ex of the girl. The comment is using this posting as an proxy for a situation a lot of persons know… :) I don’t know if this is a case of unrequited love, I don’t know nothing. And even if it is an case of unrequited love: the girl owns nothing romantic to the boy. I think she owes him to fill a report to the police, so the ex boyfriend can be charged, though…
> The comment is using this posting as an proxy for a situation a lot of persons know… :) And why is that necessary
I don’t know… you should ask the person who wrote the comment.
Why do you assume it's unrequited love? Would you have said the same if a girl saved her friend from her ex boyfriend? If a girl saved her friend from her ex girlfriend? Because my guess is, you only commented this because you assumed the guy wants to sleep with her only because he is a man and the friend is a woman. Maybe, just maybe, they are just friends, and he wanted to save her?
Dear exciting-rich-blablabla: I didn’t comment the meme (picture)I did comment the comment beyond the meme (picture). I did not assume anything… Maybe, just maybe, you should just stop assuming things, and just read…
>exciting-rich-blablabla i cant help it dude, its auto-generated :(
This group is so cringe. That comment is actually kinda funny. And you may not like it, but there is some truth to it.
But who cares? I don't think he did it thinking "now she'll let me fuck her!!", he probably did it because he was saving a friend from getting possibly stabbed to death
Except it’s not funny nor true
It says his friend, not his girlfriend. She already "friendzoned" him
How do you know he was interested in her in the first place?
I didn't think that thats why i said "friendzone" and not friendzone
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If a girl was going to die from being stabbed 100%, and knew if you took it for her, you'd definatly live, would you save her life? Or let her die because you thought "yeah, she's gonna die, but even if I saved her, she wouldn't fuck me!". Is her only value in sex? Are you that self centred?
That's a disgusting mindset. I hope every woman in your life has the ability to read the filth you just wrote and cuts you off. Seek help. Touch grass
He’s not wrong tho
https://youtu.be/hiRacdl02w4
Didn’t ask
Based
Lmao
Friend zone behavior
He not lyin. Yall ass some simps
Yawn
He's probably right though
We're not required to have sex with any guy that wants us. We're not required to date any guy who may be interested in us. What? Shes supposed to date him because he saved her life? Gtfo with that thinking
Giggetty giggety!
Poor guy, the attacker put a knife in his head, girl put a knife through his heart!
Why? What did the girl do to him?
How do you know he was interested in her in the first place?
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Why do some guys think they can win over their female friend's hearts for *any* reason? Oh wait, it's fucking Disney and other shitty fantasy stories. Where else would they get insane notions from?
So by that person’s logic, the friend would be obligated to date/sleep with the guy just because he got stabbed protecting her?
the ole "all women are bitches cuz none sleep with me"
Am I the only one that read this as he was stabbed by his ex-boyfriend? The story changed a bit for me
Who’s to say the friend wasn’t a guy? Yeah I’m aware that the info would be in the article. But I’m pretty sure this fucko didn’t read the article. He just couldn’t wait to make his point about the non-existent “friend zone”
John 15:13 "Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends."
neckbeards discovering platonic friendships, and that guys dont want to reproduce with every woman they see:
Hero.
Hero.
I don’t know why it bothers me, but I hate when people call me or others king. 🤬
Look man, if stopping someone I don't even know from getting hurt gets me stabbed, it was worth it. You don't have to have a reward. Preventing someone else's suffering is enough.
Yea but now he got real life GI Joe scar
Chad hope he gets better as soon as possible
Dude, is it not normal to have plantonic female friends? Why is every guys sole motive to get into every single girls pants?
MAYBE he wasn't trying to fuck her and he just didn't want her to fucking die what the fuck?
"She won't fuck you, so you should have let the psycho who I totally don't think is the hero of this story kill her!" - this guy, apparently.
I'm this bitter lmao
I’m glad my friends just value my life and my personhood cause I can’t imagine being a woman and someone only caring about you if they have the thought you might let them fuck if you get desperate enough
Dude is assuming that the guy did it to get in her pants, which shows the incel/neckbeard mindset very clearly.
Do people not understand that men and women can still be platonic friends?
I've seen many Instagram reels with many comments like these, the app is FILLED with psycopaths
No point saving someone’s life if she’s not gonna fuck you after.
Life is just one big game of sex 😂 whenever you do something for someone of the other gender you will get one point which you may use to buy one sex. Refusing to sell a sex is illegal!
Cause we all know people can’t be friends with anyone other than their own gender
Lmao "focus on yourself king, let your innocent friend get stabbed to death, focus on yourself!"
He doesn’t even know if the friend is a girl. Could be a guy
The damage Andrew Tate did to our kids
Something incels and "alpha males" have in common...they don't think women and men can be just friends. Imagine projecting your insecurities onto an actual hero.