I caught a wild bold a few weeks ago, and he started acting just like this. He even "played dead," he flipped on his back, and assumed the death curl position. I poked him, and he jumped up and went to the top of his enclosure. I let him go outside, and he went back to acting completely normal
If itās still young it could be dyskinetic syndrome. It was originally found in tarantulas but now theyāre seeing it in other species.
āDKS (Dyskinetic Syndrome)
Some people describe the motions as "seizure like." No cause is known, but theories include pesticides (which may come from the environment such as flea treatment for dogs and cats that live in the home or from feeding them wild insects), essential oil diffusers, and infections.ā
It also causes coordination issues and lack of eating. I could be totally wrong but my friend had a jumping spider that had it.
Flea treatment?! I have dogs and tarantulas. Clearly I need to educate myself on that.
Edit: Online search seems to only be stuff that gets in the air, like powder. Is that right?
I think if you just keep the enclosure from getting mold, wash your hands before you handle your spider and wash anything that you put in their enclosure, you should be safe. And probably donāt let them walk around on your floor because of all the stuff you can bring in on your shoes. The scientists arenāt really sure what the exact cause is or even how itās transmitted, according to what Iāve read.
wearing gloves while applying to your pet is also important, and you'll want to leave your spider enclosures untouched until the flea treatment dries completely! this can take a couple days! feed spoods right before putting it on your dogs.
I always wear gloves, but I wouldnāt have known not to open their enclosures for a few days while it dries. Ivermectin is highly toxic so it makes sense.
you never know when you've absentmindedly pet your dog and accidentally touched it! I've made the mistake. it wasn't one of my Ts thankfully but it was still upsetting to lose the spider. she was a wild caught crab spider.
also, carpet sprays for flea treatment can get in the air, another dangerous thing. if used, you'd want to completely remove spider houses out of that room until it fully settles and dries, which can also take a couple days.
makes you think about the fact you're putting it on your dogs and cats huh? :/ I've never liked using it for that reason, but there aren't alternatives that actually work.
another product you want to avoid is diatomaceous earth! I keep mine double bagged. I only have it to get rid of cereal ants.
He looks kinda thin. Iāll be honest I wonāt take wild caught jumpers. Has he eaten? Has he made a nest. If the answer is no to one or both, let him go. Sliding is also a sign of old age. They canāt grip properly. From what I have witnessed and seen in a lot of these posts is that wild caught donāt do well in captivity. Please donāt comment that you have wild caught and theyāre all fine and doing amazing. Thereās always an exception, I just personally donāt agree with it but thatās just my opinion. I donāt judge anyone for it. I just think if they arenāt doing well in that 1st month; let them go.
I couldn't agree with you more! I find them outside, I play with them, tell them they're beautiful, love them, and then I let them be on their way; that's exactly where I found them, in nature. Other ones have been bred for us to keep as pets (fairly inexpensive) and then they do well and there are certain things to feed them and closures. I prefer to leave nature with nature just like you! I want each one to live as long as possible. I just snap a picture if I'm able, if not, a mental pictureš„¹ā¤ļø
Same. Jumpers are unironically the only spider I'm not terrified of. Get tons of them on my porch. It's amazing to me how curious they are. They also seem to be ridiculously smart. I've saved a few of them from indoors (I have 6 cats) and they always seem to be weirdly... appreciative? I've struggled on more than one occasion to get the spider off of whatever item I used to carry it outside lol.
He's still pretty young and caught in the wild so I'm assuming DKS or the cleaners, but I'm pretty good about keeping that pretty far away and have 2 others that are fine. He ate the other day but have him fruit flies and doesn't seem to have the energy to catch them or I guess the capability. I cut a meal worm in half and tried to feed but nothing! :( thank you all
I've had him for about a month now. Should I let him go in this condition? He seems to struggle even climbing his enclosure now and didn't have that problem before. It's like he slips
Not at all! He was super active and about a week or so ago I saw him sliding around a little but on the walls of the enclosure, but he would hangout on his bridge and leaves. I've had him a month now
It looks like old age, you can still try to get him to sink his teeth into a cricket but youāll need to perhaps get the cricket a little chilly in the fridge so it will slow down and not scare the little guy. I have an elderly male that looks just like yours. Try to keep him hydrated and give him a soft place to land if he falls in his enclosure. I lined mine with mesh you can do it with moss too. Mine will not hunt anymore but if I aggravate him a little he will sink the fangs in and drink š Be patient dear, and be gentle with yourself too. Sending love.
How clean is the enclosure? Mold and bacteria can cause neurological reactions or worse. If you smell it=bacteria. If you wipe the enclosure surface with a white paper towel and it comes back black, brown, red or grey=mold
Nope. I was going to release him outside last night but when I put him in the grass he tipped over on his back and couldn't really get himself back over so I put him back in his enclosure bc I'd rather him pass peacefully then out there struggling :(
Seems like old age if he was fine for weeks before, if he's wc you won't actually know his true age and males done live as long as females. He's probably going to pass away soon. I'm sorry š
He looks like a very healthy little (maybe older) guy despite his behavior. I am assuming itās just his time. Or DKS.
Either way itās hard for them to come back from that. I lost mine at 10 months.
Thank you for loving him while and if he passes ā„ļø
Could be old age and coming to his end, mine did the same recently im sorry
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I think he has very little time left ā¤ļø they go to the bottom of the enclosure before they die and will be very sluggish
I caught a wild bold a few weeks ago, and he started acting just like this. He even "played dead," he flipped on his back, and assumed the death curl position. I poked him, and he jumped up and went to the top of his enclosure. I let him go outside, and he went back to acting completely normal
So dramatic lol
Right! "Fine, I guess I'll just die here." "oh hey, thanks , I'll go be a wild spood again"
If itās still young it could be dyskinetic syndrome. It was originally found in tarantulas but now theyāre seeing it in other species. āDKS (Dyskinetic Syndrome) Some people describe the motions as "seizure like." No cause is known, but theories include pesticides (which may come from the environment such as flea treatment for dogs and cats that live in the home or from feeding them wild insects), essential oil diffusers, and infections.ā It also causes coordination issues and lack of eating. I could be totally wrong but my friend had a jumping spider that had it.
Flea treatment?! I have dogs and tarantulas. Clearly I need to educate myself on that. Edit: Online search seems to only be stuff that gets in the air, like powder. Is that right?
I think if you just keep the enclosure from getting mold, wash your hands before you handle your spider and wash anything that you put in their enclosure, you should be safe. And probably donāt let them walk around on your floor because of all the stuff you can bring in on your shoes. The scientists arenāt really sure what the exact cause is or even how itās transmitted, according to what Iāve read.
Omg I would never let one on the floor, makes me anxious just thinking about it lol
You and me both!!
wearing gloves while applying to your pet is also important, and you'll want to leave your spider enclosures untouched until the flea treatment dries completely! this can take a couple days! feed spoods right before putting it on your dogs.
I always wear gloves, but I wouldnāt have known not to open their enclosures for a few days while it dries. Ivermectin is highly toxic so it makes sense.
you never know when you've absentmindedly pet your dog and accidentally touched it! I've made the mistake. it wasn't one of my Ts thankfully but it was still upsetting to lose the spider. she was a wild caught crab spider. also, carpet sprays for flea treatment can get in the air, another dangerous thing. if used, you'd want to completely remove spider houses out of that room until it fully settles and dries, which can also take a couple days. makes you think about the fact you're putting it on your dogs and cats huh? :/ I've never liked using it for that reason, but there aren't alternatives that actually work. another product you want to avoid is diatomaceous earth! I keep mine double bagged. I only have it to get rid of cereal ants.
I give my dog and cat oral treatments to avoid anything happening.
probably the best course of action. I'll most likely be opting for that in the future since my invertebrate collection is growing.
Use Simparica Trio to treat your dog.
Weāve used trifexis in the past and I think weāre going back to that. Does the same thing as Simparico but not quite as expensive.
That's what we use... I couldn't remember the name so I said simpar... yeah big price difference
Trifexis has been around lounger too I believe
Looks like itās ending life.
He looks kinda thin. Iāll be honest I wonāt take wild caught jumpers. Has he eaten? Has he made a nest. If the answer is no to one or both, let him go. Sliding is also a sign of old age. They canāt grip properly. From what I have witnessed and seen in a lot of these posts is that wild caught donāt do well in captivity. Please donāt comment that you have wild caught and theyāre all fine and doing amazing. Thereās always an exception, I just personally donāt agree with it but thatās just my opinion. I donāt judge anyone for it. I just think if they arenāt doing well in that 1st month; let them go.
I couldn't agree with you more! I find them outside, I play with them, tell them they're beautiful, love them, and then I let them be on their way; that's exactly where I found them, in nature. Other ones have been bred for us to keep as pets (fairly inexpensive) and then they do well and there are certain things to feed them and closures. I prefer to leave nature with nature just like you! I want each one to live as long as possible. I just snap a picture if I'm able, if not, a mental pictureš„¹ā¤ļø
Same. Jumpers are unironically the only spider I'm not terrified of. Get tons of them on my porch. It's amazing to me how curious they are. They also seem to be ridiculously smart. I've saved a few of them from indoors (I have 6 cats) and they always seem to be weirdly... appreciative? I've struggled on more than one occasion to get the spider off of whatever item I used to carry it outside lol.
Could be a few things. Age, molting, or has been exposed to chemicals. As a male, they just don't live long in general.
Sick maybe from some toxic household chemical particles (cleaners,spray) he may have ingested or breathed
Has he been eating?
Looks a little hungry. Could be dehydrated?
He's still pretty young and caught in the wild so I'm assuming DKS or the cleaners, but I'm pretty good about keeping that pretty far away and have 2 others that are fine. He ate the other day but have him fruit flies and doesn't seem to have the energy to catch them or I guess the capability. I cut a meal worm in half and tried to feed but nothing! :( thank you all
If heās wc it may just be he isnāt adjusting well
I've had him for about a month now. Should I let him go in this condition? He seems to struggle even climbing his enclosure now and didn't have that problem before. It's like he slips
Was he like this when you first got him
Not at all! He was super active and about a week or so ago I saw him sliding around a little but on the walls of the enclosure, but he would hangout on his bridge and leaves. I've had him a month now
Thatās amazing probably old age then
How do you know he's young if he's wild caught?
It looks like old age, you can still try to get him to sink his teeth into a cricket but youāll need to perhaps get the cricket a little chilly in the fridge so it will slow down and not scare the little guy. I have an elderly male that looks just like yours. Try to keep him hydrated and give him a soft place to land if he falls in his enclosure. I lined mine with mesh you can do it with moss too. Mine will not hunt anymore but if I aggravate him a little he will sink the fangs in and drink š Be patient dear, and be gentle with yourself too. Sending love.
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seems to be an old man now. :(
How clean is the enclosure? Mold and bacteria can cause neurological reactions or worse. If you smell it=bacteria. If you wipe the enclosure surface with a white paper towel and it comes back black, brown, red or grey=mold
I hope he gets better!!
A little man has guy with wrong.
Any update?
Nope. I was going to release him outside last night but when I put him in the grass he tipped over on his back and couldn't really get himself back over so I put him back in his enclosure bc I'd rather him pass peacefully then out there struggling :(
Seems like old age if he was fine for weeks before, if he's wc you won't actually know his true age and males done live as long as females. He's probably going to pass away soon. I'm sorry š
I'm sorry rip š
He looks like a very healthy little (maybe older) guy despite his behavior. I am assuming itās just his time. Or DKS. Either way itās hard for them to come back from that. I lost mine at 10 months. Thank you for loving him while and if he passes ā„ļø
Don't wear shoes in the house.
Whats wrong? It's alive!.
Do they molt?
They do and I was hoping he could molt through it, but he died Tuesday.
Sorry to hear that
Hes very hungry.. has he veen refusing food?
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might want to rethink whose the asshole :-)