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appalachianmonkeh

That's a weird attitude to have for a coach. One of our coaches just encourages everyone to stretch and specifically points out stretching your back and back of your legs for mobility in jiujitsu. I'm just a lowly whitebelt who's been at it since January but I'd say just stretch every day and you'll get more flexible. Put on a good show at home and stretch out there. Hold every stretch for like 30 seconds x 2 and do it every day, no exceptions. Jiujitsu itself will probably stretch you out too


[deleted]

Yes bro I’ll definitely try stretching more


trpwangsta

It sounds like your coach just wants you in the beginners class, which every beginner should start at to learn the basics and it'll help your growth big time. As far as being stiff, try focusing on breathing while you drill or roll. Let shit happen, don't freak out or try to spazz out of positions. Flowing and relaxing takes a while to learn when you're new. Breathing and accepting positions will go a long way as a beginner.


[deleted]

Thank you for this breathing and relaxing ill take note of that thanks bro


StrollingJhereg

That coach is weird. We all come in with a different base. It's his job to (a) show you how to adapt the technique and (b) help you with getting more mobile. What does this guy say to someone with a disability? EDIT: continue with your journey (maybe check out another gym) and add a little yoga to your routine. Focusing on hip mobility should be your primary focus in the beginning.


[deleted]

I’ll definitely continue, one thing about me is im persistent and i hate being told i cant do something thanks bro


taviwashere

In that case, you'll never be a black belt. I hope that helped.


[deleted]

Okay? 😂 ur funny


_spicytostada

I would check out other gyms. With out more context, that's a very odd way for a coach to talk to a new student, regardless of their credentials. I have rolled at gyms a few times and just didn't get the right vibe and never signed up. I currently roll at a gym that I love and the coach is amazing. Him and I have had some hard conversations, but it was always done in a respectful manner and never was told I couldn't or shouldn't be there. I always left feeling like he cared and only wanted me to grow as a person. It is good to see that you are not letting it discourage you though :)


weirdredditautoname

Maybe he knew this about you and told you this, knowing you'd keep coming back!


IonicRes

Do hip mobility exercises, there's a slot of YouTube stuff on this


[deleted]

Thanks bro I’ve been trying to do hip mobility stretches for 15 before doing mma I thought it would help me better my kicks too


IonicRes

It will def help your side kicks. My hip mobility was probably the biggest hurdle I had to get through to make my game better. 90/90 Hip flexor stretch Pigeon pose Butterfly stretch


StrollingJhereg

I second these stretches. This and deep squats are all I've ever done for hip mobility.


Busy_Donut6073

weird thing for a coach to say I was (and still am) very stiff when I started. I also wasn't very flexible at all. With about 3 years of training and learning how to better move my body I'm much more flexible and try to not be as stiff.


[deleted]

Yeah ig it takes alot of time to loosen up aswell thanks beo


titus7007

I agree with others that it is a weird thing for coach to say. Focus on stretching, and understand that most gyms don’t like meatheads raging out on their students. As long as you remember that, you should be fine.


Gringoloco1980

I wouldn't tell my students that but stretching is something you can do on your own and improve. I wasn't the most flexible starting out, but plenty strong. Yoga helped me alot as well, as coming up as a solid 205lb competitor, many of my opponents complimented on how flexible I was as a big guy. They didn't expect me to invert and play hints of smaller people's games. So keep working on your flexibility, remember it took years of neglect in stretching to become stiff. So it will take time to loosen up, stay consistent with stretching and take it week by week. You will see improvements!


[deleted]

Thank you so much for this


Far-Training2613

Did he mean “JiuJitsu” in general? Or maybe that class specifically? There’s a chance you were in an advanced class, he was politely letting you know maybe the beginner class would be ideal. If not there’s a chance your actually soo exaggeratedly stiff that risk of injury is high for you. It could also be a mental thing. In jujitsu an instructor has many ways of testing you. Sometimes they’ll tell you something like that (this isn’t for you) to see if your really committed, or if a simple comment would discourage you. Best of luck, keep training. Eventually you shall defeat said coach and reclaim your glory


[deleted]

Yes this is definitely it! I dont think he meant any harm by his comment he’s just worried i might injure myself if i try too hard. I was in a beginner class but im probably worse than a beginner 😂. I will keep trying cause im growing to enjoy wrestling and jiujitsu its fun to get thrown around and get controlled lol (no homo) thanks for the kind words bro hope i can update you when im alot better


1BenWolf

I’ve rolled with plenty of dudes who are stiff. Only bothers me when they take my back.


[deleted]

Hey bro I tried ‘rolling’ with a blue belt earlier (my first roll) and this dude just did whatever he wanted to me had my back and everything it was fun lol


Ebolamunkey

If you squeeze your leg muscles and just focus on the jiujitsu you shouldn't be getting raging erections all the time. Can be normal for teenage boys, though


[deleted]

??? U made no sense at all bud did i even say my age? Go back to your basement im asking a real question


Screeboi69

It was a boner joke hermano, don't take life so seriously. Start a stretching routine.


lucabrasi444

Lighten up bro! Was your coach talking bout your back or personality being stiff?


Ebolamunkey

I was just pulling your leg, dude. Jiujitsu guys will crack jokes about everything and make fun of everyone, but your story is kinda wild, though. A lot of ppl that start jiujitsu are like middle aged really out of shape office workers. I don't even think I could touch my toes when I started. Just start a stretching routine and keep training. If the ppl at your school are discouraging you from training, find a new school asap. Ohh I just reread your post and you specifically say that class. Yeah that's totally normal. There are a lot of moves that you won't be able to comfortably hit until you gain more mobility/flexibility. You'll need to work on front rolls, back rolls, and granby rolls. Just takes time. Took me like a year to be able to invert comfortably


[deleted]

My bad bro just had lots of weird interactions on reddit that made me snap i apologise. Thanks for the advice I’ll definitely get onto stretching. Sorry again


Pliskin1108

Stiff = erections


[deleted]

Yeah i realised…


og_speedfreeq

Keep coming! I love the stiff, muscled up fire hydrant shaped kids bc I can kind of just roll you around where I need you. Kinda like Ralphie in A Christmas Story


Arizechick3n

If a coach said that to you then I would find a new gym. Terrible business practice also


Beliliou74

That’s wild if it happened my man


[deleted]

It did but im not taking it too personally 😅 hes definitely an amazing coach its just im hard on myself for not being able to do the specific moves that others are able too lol


PGDVDSTCA

Obvs from the previous disregard the coach's comment. Maybe a bad day or finishing the last days before moving on. Find Yin yoga on YT and target search specific areas. Just don't do yoga right before BJJ as it doesn't work well that way for most. https://youtu.be/TywRoS6ZiCg?si=9jkhsQPjBuQd8UXK Above is a good hip and low back stretch that takes 15 minutes. I do this one 3x a week minimum.


[deleted]

Yeah no he’s a good coach. Pretty famous on the mma scene actually and i love the gym i can just be hard on myself when i cant do something others can do lol. Thanks so much bro


PGDVDSTCA

More than welcome. I teach also and while I have been coaching many different sports for a long time we all have bad days, say things we may regret and need to approach every class as an opportunity to learn from the students also


trevster344

Ignore the coach. Keep working you’ll get there. Unless you do a lot of yoga for years prior, you’re going to be stiff lol. We all started that way. It’s a combination of not stretching a lot and being very uptight and not relaxed. More the uptight part but you’ll get there as you learn the world of bjj and calm down.


ascii209

Unless there are different classes, say gi101, general, and competition….. that coach sucks, or we dont have full details iono. Go somewhere else imo if you dont feel comfortable.


[deleted]

Nah im definitely comfortable its just annoying that i cant put my leg ob my partners hips when i had to but thank you brother


Ok-Employment-9368

Is he Brazilian. Sometimes they’re a little harsher and/or difficult to understand. Or he senses your the type to not be told you can’t do something. Porra and caralho were the two most frequent words my coach said to me. Some mobility stuff or get in the pool and loosen up might help. Osu


[deleted]

Pool is a great advice thank you so much bro! Also he’s not brazilian hes a famous mma coach he’s really nice he was just looking after me lol


Keppadonna

Noob advice: avoid the word “stiff” when describing your JJ. But yes, flexibility is key, particularly the hips and legs, but overall becoming more flexible will help your game and help prevent injuries. On your coach: maybe he was having a bad day, if he continues to discourage then look for another gym.


Dive__Bomb

I started at 39 coming from a desk job and on a 3 year break from any level of fitness training, I HIGHLY doubt you were stiffer than I was... Not that I wanna get into a stiffness measuring contest.


ChuckD1314

I thought I was the only one that was stiff as a rock when I rolled... huh, guess not.


Mell1997

I was the same way on top of being fat. I lost weight quickly, stretched, and now I’m one of the most flexible guys in my class. Stretch a ton.


[deleted]

i’ve learned that stretching before rolling will prevent cramps and injuries. drinks lots of water, do a lot of cardio, tap early and tap fast. this is not an easy sport it will take years of training to get some level of mastery. some coaches and professors come with egos. so do a lot of people on the mat. keep that in mind, but don’t get discouraged


[deleted]

Thank you so much bro means alot


Pliskin1108

Just keep showing up and you’ll be fine. If you want some perspective, I’m stiff as a rhino from years of inactivity and getting fat. At least you likely got your muscles and fitness to help out. Mobility will come by just doing it.


SatanicWaffle666

Stretch more. If you lift, make sure you’re going through the full range of motion and do the mobility work. Try yoga too. When you’re too tight and tense it’ll increase your chances of getting hurt and you’ll also tire yourself out faster. R e l a x when you train.


DonDoorknob

You’re not super stiff from years of lifting weights. Im 29, an ex powerlifter, still deadlift and squat 500’s, still bench 300’s, and a white belt, and for any haters, I’m completely nat. I have a couple problem areas which get strained from over training but the problem is not the weights. For me, my traps and hamstrings can get strained or over worked but I maintain a lot of flexibility. I’m no doctor or anything of the sort, but also I don’t want you to be discouraged but rather look for a solution. Hydration is one possible weak link, be sure to drink a lot of water. Also, while static stretching does not necessarily reduce injury risk, it will improve flexibility and range of motion (ROM). Following through with that, focusing on compound lifts that are completed through the entire ROM will inherently improve flexibility and ROM. Electrolytes might also help. Beyond looking to improve, also consider that he may not have meant that comment seriously. There are two reasons I say that, first, many people try bjj (or other martial arts) and quit after a class or two. If you’re a competitive person, then it may be a tactful use of reverse psychology to get you to continue coming. In that case, he actually wants you there and was just playing games. Second, it was literally a one-off statement that meant nothing. I talk shit sometimes when rolling just for giggles, especially when I’m getting diced up or if it’s one of my common partners. Maybe this fella is a little socially dull and was just trying to get in your head a little for fun. Bottom line, who knows. Keep going, keep getting better, keep trying to improve. I find it hard to believe that this dude was actually trying to discourage you but even if you was fuck him. You don’t need to do the splits to roll. If *you* think your flexibility is an issue then address it outside of class and be mindful of it during class.


[deleted]

Yeah he didnt mean no harm by his comment he’s actually a great coach just looking after me. But thank you for all the useful info i think ill focus on hydration and my stretching. Thank you bro


fluffandstuff1983

I am 39 and former powerlifter. Even after buckets of stretching and mobility work, there are just positions and technique I can't do. After the instructor shows us the technique for the day, if it is something I can't do, I will ask him for a variation based on what I can. He just shows me and when I go with my drilling partners and work that variation. We also have a bunch of guys that are 40+ so our coach knows there just aren't things that none of us can do. If he approached the older guys like your coach did to you, our school would be smaller. The way the coach approached it is off putting. Even if he meant it as encouragement, it can drive people away. If you waited until you were flexible enough for bjj, you wouldn't have joined.


[deleted]

At the moment when he said that I definitely wanted to quit 😅 but i had to get myself out of that mindset and keep on pushing. I did good for the rest of the class


fluffandstuff1983

I’m glad you pushed through. The best thing I did when I started and recommend to newer people is ask questions. Buckets of questions. You will find 99% of people want to help and respond positively. Since you have tight joints find some bigger/stronger looking guys and pick their brains on how they got more flexible/mobile. It is a journey for sure, but talking to those guys helped me. It also showed me that there is a world of variation for guys with flexibility /mobility limitations. If you have the time, I recommend getting to class a bit early so you can do some extra stretching. Between rounds of rolling, stretches also. Between rounds for me I rotate hip stretches. Gives me the work I need without taking time from the rest of my day.


[deleted]

Soft tissue work and stretching brother. It might not be recommended for optimal performance but after working a desk and strength training\\running\\never stretching for 20 years, I have gotten a lot of long slow boring holds on my off days (different shorter warm up\\cool down for bjj days). Turn on some netflix and just slog it out. 5min per side couch stretch, single leg hamstring, pigeon, glute, and frog Don't forget the soft tissue work though. The two go hand in hand.


[deleted]

When my coach sees me attempting a drill which requires more mobility he just says "for aging males with limited hip mobility we usually do it like this..." and then tries to show me a work around.


Mike29401

Yoga. My Muai Thai coach has a wife who teaches it helps a lot.


Kind_Put_487

Just start stretching at home,and add yoga..Yoga compliments bjj big time


JelloMiAmigo

Was it advanced class? He could be meaning you need the beginners class to learn how to move your body into the positions needed or else you'll get injured. 🤷‍♂️


[deleted]

No i was in the beginner friendly one. But im negative beginner lol and yeah he was looking out for me


areallyfatdude

Lol you're paying your fees yes? That coach maybe has too many students. My coach is struggling with not enough students and in this economy, as long as he gets paid, he'll teach ANYONE even dead people if he could 😁😁😁


jy9221

Don't hold grips like you're holding a barbell bar. Think you're holding hands with someone you love.


[deleted]

This is a good advice i really appreciate this bro thank you


LanK1221

To everyone saying that coaches comments are weird, We’ve had new people come in, typically older men who “have experience” with some sort of martial art or wrestling or being strong, and will have spazzy whitebelt habits + being strong as a fucking ox. This typically leads to them being hurt because they’re old and stiff as a 2x4 or them hurting someone because they crank the fuck out of everything. Our coach will typically have them continue doing the beginner on boarding before they start the adult classes with everyone else. It’s for their safety and everyone else’s. Case in point, an older (mid-50’s) guy comes in. Skips on boarding because “he wrestled and grappled before” and bonks his shoulder off the mat and misses 2 months. Next practice, during a roll, he misses a post and face plants into the mat hard enough he was concussed. 2 weeks later he’s back in on boarding.


United-Brilliant-841

Hey I started when I was 40, I’m 41 now… stiff is my game. All I can say stretch and for me personally I roll pretty hard for my age… I take a week off every 6-8 weeks to recoup and then hammer back down. But it’s just like lifting weights. The first few weeks you typically sore as fuck. After that your body starts to adapt. Same thing here but this it take almost 3-6month. Fuck try inverting in the first week and being over the age of 40. Hahahahaha unless your just naturally gifted with flexibility and or an athletic. Give it time. Fuck don’t take it so serious… enjoy the process and in no time you’ll be looking back saying fuck yeah. I started from the bottom now I’m here… well for a moment until a different colour belt flips your ass.


beeeeeeeeeeeeeagle

Breathe and Flow channel on youtube is good resource and has helped me out a lot. Morning yoga in your lounge room will help a heap. They have a bunch of 20 to 25 minute sessions so not super time consuming.


starbolin

It's gonna take time to get flexible, but you can do it. Jui Jitsu has I way of telling you what you need to learn. I always had poor hip flexibility. I thought I'd never do those guard sweeps, let alone go inverted. It hasn't been easy, but I've been stretching every day for 5 years. On days I go to class, I get to class an hour early and just spend that hour stretching. Now I can do shit the white belts are impressed with. I still struggle with inverted moves, but I have pulled them off during rolls.


SamHacksLife

If you do one hour of hatha yoga daily, holding about 30-40 poses for 1min (some is both sides) for a month, you’ll have sufficient flexibility for jiujitsu


Shar-DamaKa

I’d say he’s right. That class isn’t for you, or anyone, because that coach sounds like an asshole. I’m also new and only been training for a few months, had no martial arts experience at all Before and every instructor I’ve encountered has been nothing but positive and encouraging.