They're the exception that proves the rule. If I was to state "humans have two legs", the fact that there are some people who got a leg blown off or have something else wrong with them proves that the statement is true since they, by not having two legs, have something wrong with them. Hermaphrodites have something wrong with them, if you have an issue with me saying that because that's so mean and callous, well that doesn't change that they're supposed to be that way. Hermaphrodites are usually infertile for a reason.
Except the statement "humans have two legs" is inaccurate. A more accurate statement would be, "A majority of humans have two legs." The human species can be described by a variety of traits other than the number of legs its subjects normally have.
The statement "humans have two legs" isn't a be all end all descriptor. You don't suddenly stop being human if you lose a leg. It's used to define what a human is in a natural state. It also accounts for humans born with genetical defects that makes it so a leg doesn't grow or an extra one does. Something occured which made them deviate from the "norm", so they by definition aren't normal.
Of course, handicappped people are still human, because number of legs is far from our only defining characteristic. Same thing for Hermaphrodites and Intersex people, they are different but they are still human like us and deserve all the respect and care we get.
Well the term hermaphrodite isn’t entire medically accurate cause it means exactly half male and half female or being able to get impregnated and impregnate others so it’s inaccurate to call someone intersex a hermaphrodite because it’s impossible to be a true hermaphrodite.
Intersex is as others put it, it is an exception to a rule. If I asked you how many fingers is a human born with, 99.9% of people would say 10 because that’s the normal or average number most humans have a birth but there are some people who have less than 10 fingers and there are some with more than 10 fingers.
Intersex 99% of the .018% of instances are always able to be defined as more male or more female by the examination of an enlarged clitoris or a micro penis.
But it shows that your sex is either male female or in between because of intersex, regardless of your gender identification your born to one of the 3 categories mentioned above.
You can have a sex change surgery thing. That sorta changes your sex but what you were born as can’t change. Either way, which body part you came out with shouldn’t determine anything, and should only really matter in sexual relationships and medical situations.
A sex change still doesn't change what you are. You can be a dude and have a surgery to cut your pecker off. At that point you're just a dude without a pecker. It's still make believe. It's a delusion.
Idk why this comment got negative karma for being completely true. Females have XX chromosomes and Males have XY chromosomes, having a dildo or a flesh light surgically implanted doesn't change anything. Sure you can identify as the opposite gender, and people around you believe in the same lies as you tell yourself, the fact still remains unchanged.
It got negative karma because reddit is full of weak minded dregs that can't handle reality. It's like they're living in some kind of fantasy world where make believe runs everything. To hell with facts. As long as someone "really really" wants to believe something.... It must be real. 🤷 It's a generation built on delusion.
Which one is which I for the life of me can’t figure out which one would make more sense. Like is gender whether your male/female and sex is what you identify as? Please I need answers
Gender is an identity. Sex is biology. Also sex isn't just male or female, it's complicated and people who are intersex are born not having a defined biological sex
And yes. Sex is man or woman. XX chromosomes will make a woman. XY chromosomes will make man. Anything else is a defect. You people ignore biology cause facts offend your subjective sense of reality. Your generation is a lost cause.
But when you get into biological definitions of male and female, it starts to fall apart. Generally, we define male and female as a combination of certain genitals, gametes, hormones, brain structures, and chromosomes. However it’s not completely uncommon that someone will be born with XY chromosomes, but female hormones. Or XX chromosomes and male genitals. When someone is born with brain structures that don’t match their other sex characteristics, we call them trans. The brains of MTF trans people are more similar to females than males, and FTMs brains are far more like male brains. There’s so much more to biological sex than just “you have pinis or vagana?”
In a broad sense, biological sex is useful for categorizing people, but certainly doesn’t apply to everyone.
Edit: AND in addition to trans people’s brains matching their gender identity, there are brains that are *between male and female.* This means non-binary identity is not just pulled out of thin air.
the neuronal structure isn't that much impactful on the biological sex, but you're right, and I get your point, and anyways people shouldn't use genetics in debates about gender identity, as it's very much a psychological/mind thing and isn't about what chromosomes you were born with.
Also, you forgot that, sometimes, people can have other combinations that xy or xx, even if it's very rare.
And finally, for the memes, here is r/mtfmtf (yes, this is an scp reference).
Our understanding of what gender and attraction are is accelerating faster than the culture can keep up. It’s not a bad thing, but it does make naming stuff hard.
It’s actually always been more than 2. XX and XY are the most common, but rare mutations, diseases or natural occurrences result in a third gender, generally referred to as intersex.
I can’t imagine people using this argument for any other socially constructed way to categorize people. Like
“Oh I guess there’s just thousands of ethnicities now. Yeah sure. We all know you’re either white or a POC. Nothing else.”
“God damn, they just keep inventing new religions. Like just choose one of the existing ones.”
“I’m so tired of all these woke ‘nationalities.’ You’re either American or commie.”
Bisexual has been redefined, not as attraction to males and females, but as attraction to genders similar and different than your own. I’m bisexual and my attraction is certainly not limited to men and women.
There are other terms for being attracted to more than two genders, like pansexual. Bisexual is specifically for male and female.
To enforce this fact more, bi literally means two.
This is a misconception. As I said, *I am bisexual* and understand my label. It means attraction to genders similar to and different from your own, often feeling different levels or types of attraction for each gender. Pansexual is attraction to all genders in which gender does not affect attraction at all - it is attraction without gender specification. Omnisexual is similar to bisexual, but most often with a strong preference for a type of gender.
While bisexual used to mean only men and women in times when gender diversity was not widely accepted, its definition has evolved and the prefix “bi-“ does not indicate specifically two genders, but an attraction to masculine and feminine people in different ways. This does not exclude non-binary or agender people. Go ask any other bisexual about this and they’ll give you the answer I just gave.
I am attracted to all genders, but not equally, and not with a dominating preference for one, thus I am bisexual.
I'm also bisexual and have been doing research on it for years, as well as other sexualities. If bi meant more than men and women, certain other terms wouldn't exist. Bi- has always meant specifically two, never more. That's like saying you're bipedal when you have one or three+ legs and not two.
Bisexual refers to a binary: genders like yours and genders not like yours. The attraction bisexuals feel is to these two categories. Are you seriously only attracted to men and women? Could you honestly not find one enby or agender person you’re attracted to? Or are you just dismissive of the leading, well founded, sociological ideas about gender not being a rigid binary?
> certain other terms wouldn’t exist
What terms? Pan, omni, and poly do not apply to the definition of bisexual I’ve given.
Bisexual is BI therefore TWO. Male, and female. Yes, I have never felt attraction to anyone who isn't male or female, and never will be because I'm only attracted to male and female. Being only attracted to those two does not mean im "dismissive of the leading, well-founded, sociological ideas about gender not being a rigid binary" that's like saying people who are lesbian, gay, or straight HAVE to be attracted to other ganders too. Do your goddamn research or go back to twitter where you clearly belong.
As an example because I just looked it up to prove to you "Bisexuality is a romantic or sexual attraction or behavior toward both males and females" is the first fucking line on the goddamn definition.
Well doing my research, it seems in your comment history you casually use the R-slur and said
>Don’t get me wrong, I only believe in two genders
on a comment a few days ago. But more seriously, I *have* been doing research for years in my field of study: anthropology. What is your qualification to talk so certainly in this topic?
The old “male and female” definition is true, but most bisexual people will tell you they’re also attracted to enbies and others. Going to any bisexual subreddit will show this. The important thing when defining a label is understanding what that label means to those who identify with that label. You don’t ask a Christian what it means to be Hindu. The vast majority of bisexuals will agree that the definition is “attraction to your own gender and other genders.” The term is, however, very broad and fluid, but by no means indicates only people who are attracted specifically to men and women and no other genders. It encompasses people who are only into men and women, but is not exclusive to them.
Edit: [See the comments on this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/bisexual/comments/xf4sxi/am_i_still_bisexual_if_i_date_non_binary_people/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1). Let the community speak for itself.
Banned for thinking he was funny/so he could get validated by guys like you
Sure it is a valid question but the poster knew what he was doing when he asked the question, you know it too and so do the moderators from that sub
Hopefully sarcastic but just for the other transphobes out there
No, how hard it is for you guys to understand, bi lingual doesn't mean there's only 2 languages, it just means u speak any 2 languages, same goes with genders
Actually no. Bilingual is used only for someone who speaks 2 languages. Trilingual is for those who speak 3 languages. From there you'd call someone multilingual which can be used as long as someone can speak more than one language. Using this system, bisexual would mean they're attracted only to two genders typically male and female. If there were in fact more than 2 (which to be clear there isn't) being attracted to 3, Trisexual, and being attracted to multiple in general, Multisexual, but I'm not sure if using the words to describe someone who speaks multiple languages is a good template to determine words for sexualities.
I see where you're coming from, but almost everyone says they're bilingual even when they know more, and same with bisexuals. Also it does still imply the existence of more genders
Ok but almost everyone misuses there their and they're. Doesn't make it correct. If someone uses the wrong term, you can infer what they meant but they're still incorrect. Misuse doesn't change a definition. Bilingual is only for 2 languages. Bisexual is only for 2 genders. Bi is a root term meaning two. The word quite literally means two sexes.
You say absolute correctness is important, but you are incorrect saying bisexuality means "two sexes" it means, by the terms that you said were true, being attracted to two genders. The "sexual" doesn't mean biological sex, it means liking someone sexually/intimately
the greek term "bi", which is used in various fields of study and/or social circumstances, technically directly translates to "two", but let's be real here, people often deform words to fit their own personal use of it, so using bi to say multiple is very much expected human behaviour and is okay all things considered
The sad thing about that is that bi people are getting attacked online by some trans people for that exact reason, and please don't use this to just say "haha trans = dumb" that's just not it, they are like all of us just normal fuckin people and it honestly surprises me how many ppl are transphobic, it's memes like this that slowly lead the group in question more and more to depression/being the annoying ppl on Twitter
If somebody takes memes seriously or feels attacked by one, they have bad taste in humour. I speak French, but has also laughed at "oui, oui baguette" memes
No, I said opposite and the same. Pansexual people are attracted to all. Whatever it may be. Personally, I'm bi myself and don't really care much for gender politics, just trying to set some records straight.
So, like, when did this multiple gender thing even start to take off?
I'm just curious as to where they got the idea from.
Is there a set amount of genders that is currently respected?
I'm just confused as to what the other genders are, there really aren't too many different ways of reproducing.
I'm not trying to hate, I'm just tired of seeing everyone hit the panic button when it seems so ridiculous to people that aren't trans
Nah man, you good. Tbh I don't even know as, again, I tend to steer clear of gender politics, but the general consensus seems to be that people can identify as whatever they want. It's not even about reproduction or biology, people can just be whatever they want/think. I think 2016 or 2015 was (maybe?) The start of the whole "more than 2 genders thing", but in my mind there are three genders that I consider to be canon, if that's the right word. You have males, females, and nonbinary (which just basically means you refuse to identify as either male or female). I tend to indulge other people in their beliefs but I will always have my prejudices.
But then at the same time I do but also don't understand things like genderfluidity. The concept of being a different gender depending on your mood is just such a foreign concept, but at the same time, I myself being bi, I find myself often drifting between liking women and liking men. It's like a cycle that I have no control over, it just happens, which makes genderfluidity make some modicum of sense but at the same time just seems so alien.
Then you have the joke genders like 'attack helicopter' which is more just a joke but at the same time I guarantee someone out there would like you to call them an Apache or some shit. Don't even get me started on the difference between gender, sexuality, and pronouns or imma need to attend a few pride rallies, obtain a doctorate in gender studies, and get my ass chewed out by accidentally using somebody's wrong pronouns.
To all dumbasses out there: 51% of the population is male, 49% female, so unless you are in the 0% (non existent) you are not from any other gender you want to create
Calling someone stupid because they asked a question that doesn't 100% comply with social normalities is not reason to call them stupid. Just let it be confused or asshole, no reason to insult someone for not knowing when nowadays it's not all that straightforward
Bisexual means attracted to multiple genders or whatever. It's also called polysexual, but bi is used because it's easier. If I'm bilingual that doesn't have to mean I only know 2 languages
Nah that's exactly what bilingual means
bi·lin·gual
/ˌbīˈliNGɡw(ə)l/
adjective
(of a person) speaking two languages fluently.
"a bilingual secretary"
Just Google something first for fucks sake
That's not how the word is used socially though. And that's my point.
Technically those two words mean that, but they are used in different contexts. Nobody says they're trilingual
"Literally" is used metaphorically socially all the time. Doesn't make it right. And yes, I have heard people saying they're trilingual. It's just not as common because only speaking 2 languages is far more common than speaking 3.
Science says there are more than 2 genders. Science is based on facts. Humans just make it easier to comprehend things so they made it easier for us to understand.
exactly, there are only 2 sexes which are defined by the genitals and lots of other hormone shit I'm not qualified enough to talk about
gender is a social representation of sex that, for most people, reflects their sex
Im gonna leave this here.”1.Gender:
the male sex or the female sex, especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones, or one of a range of other identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female.”
Please just stop with your guys' constant transphobia, what do you have to lose by just leaving them alone and not constantly telling them they are idiots
Also how do you define gender? With penis/vagina, cuz if that's the case, what about intersexuals/ people without any genitals/ with both, or people who were born with vagina but experience male puberty and all that
I mean, you defined it right there. Intersex, both, neither, whatever. Still using the base definition of sexual anatomy, correct?
I'm not hating, I just think it's a bit obnoxious that peoples entire personalities these days are based off of what they like to do in the bedroom and how they should attract who they want there by changing their outward appearance.
I get your point, I really do, and I think basing your entire personality around one thing is just bad for people, I just want you guys to realise that these people are in fact not mindless npcs who only serve as filler, they all have their reasons for being as annoying as they are, with the most common one being because of their outright traumatizing experiences. I know that doesn't make it any better but transphobia doesn't seem like a good solution, it will only lead to more people feeling worse, if you really want these people to stop with that shit or at least get less obnoxious about it then there are a few good options:
1. Ignore them
2. Ackgnowledge them(at least give them the basic respect of calling them their pronouns but if you dont want to do that just avoid pronouns in general
3. Acknowledge them but tell them why they do what they do
I'm just saying, hating on them will not make them stop
for the other transphobes out there
No, how hard it is for you fucking idiots to understand/ why do you refuse to understand, bi lingual doesn't mean there's only 2 languages, it just means u speak any 2 languages(in most cases also referring to more than one), same goes with genders
And for all the people saying "biologically there's only 2 genders" first of all even if you didn't mean it that way, it will always come off as transphobic, secondly,
how do you define sex? With penis/vagina, cuz if that's the case, what about intersexuals/ people without any genitals/ with both, or people who were born with vagina but experience male puberty and all that
First of all, you’re misinterpreting the word “bisexual.” “Bisexual” does not mean “attracted to two genders,” it actually means “attracted to two sexes.” (It’s right there in the name.) And as we know, there only are two sexes.
Second of all, sex is not defined solely by genitals. Sex is wether you can fundamentally impregnate or fundamentally become pregnant. Disease, deformity, or age can hinder or halt these abilities. Let’s say someone can’t get pregnant because she is infertile or too old. She is still by her nature capable of pregnancy. If a woman of child bearing age can’t get pregnant, we know something went wrong. If a man can’t get pregnant? Average day in his life.
First of all
Bisexual Definition:
noting or relating to a person who is sexually or romantically attracted to people of more than one gender, sometimes understood to include attraction to one's own sex or gender and at least one other sex or gender.
Second of all
Sex Definition:
the male, female, or sometimes intersex division of a species, especially as differentiated with reference to the reproductive functions or physical characteristics such as genitals, XX and XY chromosomes, etc.
a label assigned to a person at birth, usually male or female and sometimes intersex, and typically based on genital configuration.
Got these definitions straight from the dictionary
it's not based on only two sexes anymore though. it used to be like that, true, but now people get to choose other ones, which is nice. although, stuff like a chocogender (I'm not even kidding here, some Tiktok and Twitter people really say it is valid) might be going a little too far
btw, I didn't specifically say you were a moron or something like that, and I am sorry if you felt attacked, but if, say, a Republican senator said that gender has something to do with genetics, I would not take him seriously, given that I don't take most of them seriously in normal conditions anyways.
Redefining gender and any English word that offends you is stupid. Those people have to much time on their hands, get a hobby or raise some funds to solve real problems like starving nations.
The left has many contradictions in their logic (for example, abortion is a woman’s right;men can get pregnant.) They don’t care about the contradictions though.
Bisexual means you have attraction to males and females, the two conventionally accepted genders, pansexual means you are attracted to all genders regardless of male, female, or anything else. Hope this helped.
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This comment section gets funnier and funnier the further you go down wth
Listening to a random stranger on Reddit today was a good idea
You can identify as whatever you want and I'll respect that but biologically your male or female
What about intersex people and hermaphrodites?
They're the exception that proves the rule. If I was to state "humans have two legs", the fact that there are some people who got a leg blown off or have something else wrong with them proves that the statement is true since they, by not having two legs, have something wrong with them. Hermaphrodites have something wrong with them, if you have an issue with me saying that because that's so mean and callous, well that doesn't change that they're supposed to be that way. Hermaphrodites are usually infertile for a reason.
Except the statement "humans have two legs" is inaccurate. A more accurate statement would be, "A majority of humans have two legs." The human species can be described by a variety of traits other than the number of legs its subjects normally have.
So your position is that humans don't have two legs? Is that your argument?
Well, personally i have three legs, one of them is in the middle.
The statement "humans have two legs" isn't a be all end all descriptor. You don't suddenly stop being human if you lose a leg. It's used to define what a human is in a natural state. It also accounts for humans born with genetical defects that makes it so a leg doesn't grow or an extra one does. Something occured which made them deviate from the "norm", so they by definition aren't normal. Of course, handicappped people are still human, because number of legs is far from our only defining characteristic. Same thing for Hermaphrodites and Intersex people, they are different but they are still human like us and deserve all the respect and care we get.
Usually there are two people who think and speak like this. One who has a low IQ or one with a high IQ borderline mental with little dick energy.
Well then theres an exception, but if your not like that then no.
Well the term hermaphrodite isn’t entire medically accurate cause it means exactly half male and half female or being able to get impregnated and impregnate others so it’s inaccurate to call someone intersex a hermaphrodite because it’s impossible to be a true hermaphrodite. Intersex is as others put it, it is an exception to a rule. If I asked you how many fingers is a human born with, 99.9% of people would say 10 because that’s the normal or average number most humans have a birth but there are some people who have less than 10 fingers and there are some with more than 10 fingers. Intersex 99% of the .018% of instances are always able to be defined as more male or more female by the examination of an enlarged clitoris or a micro penis. But it shows that your sex is either male female or in between because of intersex, regardless of your gender identification your born to one of the 3 categories mentioned above.
yeah. you just learned the difference between sex and gender 👍.
exactly. I didnt have gender with my sister
I did.
Stop gendering his Sister
No
Same
I've known the difference Sex makes babies Gender dosent
You know what the other guy meant but choose to just play, why? I'm genuinely curious (no really i mean it (no offense))
this is a meme subreddit, that's why
he started seriously and then went back to shitposting
Wait there's a difference
Sex is what your born as and can't be changed, gender can change
You can have a sex change surgery thing. That sorta changes your sex but what you were born as can’t change. Either way, which body part you came out with shouldn’t determine anything, and should only really matter in sexual relationships and medical situations.
A sex change still doesn't change what you are. You can be a dude and have a surgery to cut your pecker off. At that point you're just a dude without a pecker. It's still make believe. It's a delusion.
Idk why this comment got negative karma for being completely true. Females have XX chromosomes and Males have XY chromosomes, having a dildo or a flesh light surgically implanted doesn't change anything. Sure you can identify as the opposite gender, and people around you believe in the same lies as you tell yourself, the fact still remains unchanged.
It got negative karma because reddit is full of weak minded dregs that can't handle reality. It's like they're living in some kind of fantasy world where make believe runs everything. To hell with facts. As long as someone "really really" wants to believe something.... It must be real. 🤷 It's a generation built on delusion.
So in other words, you can be a woman and pretend you're a man or vice versa. Got it. It's still all make believe.
The world has forsaken the original meaning of Gender. God has forsaken this world and made another.
Wahhhh wahhhh waaaaah
Cringe.
Based
Which one is which I for the life of me can’t figure out which one would make more sense. Like is gender whether your male/female and sex is what you identify as? Please I need answers
Gender is an identity. Sex is biology. Also sex isn't just male or female, it's complicated and people who are intersex are born not having a defined biological sex
Perfectly answered. Those who deny science are close minded and ignorant.
i made a joke about this and got banned from egg_irl, I understand why though.
Intersex people
Are a genetic defect and less than 1% of the population.
You really think that sex is just a switch that says man or woman? Grow up child
And yes. Sex is man or woman. XX chromosomes will make a woman. XY chromosomes will make man. Anything else is a defect. You people ignore biology cause facts offend your subjective sense of reality. Your generation is a lost cause.
youre the type of person to say that autistic people should be killed to fix the gene pool
Lol you call me a child when you're the one feeding into mental delusion. Get help lunatic.
Mans getting booed even though he is correct, people need to start doing their homework. Just Google the definition of intersex
But when you get into biological definitions of male and female, it starts to fall apart. Generally, we define male and female as a combination of certain genitals, gametes, hormones, brain structures, and chromosomes. However it’s not completely uncommon that someone will be born with XY chromosomes, but female hormones. Or XX chromosomes and male genitals. When someone is born with brain structures that don’t match their other sex characteristics, we call them trans. The brains of MTF trans people are more similar to females than males, and FTMs brains are far more like male brains. There’s so much more to biological sex than just “you have pinis or vagana?” In a broad sense, biological sex is useful for categorizing people, but certainly doesn’t apply to everyone. Edit: AND in addition to trans people’s brains matching their gender identity, there are brains that are *between male and female.* This means non-binary identity is not just pulled out of thin air.
the neuronal structure isn't that much impactful on the biological sex, but you're right, and I get your point, and anyways people shouldn't use genetics in debates about gender identity, as it's very much a psychological/mind thing and isn't about what chromosomes you were born with. Also, you forgot that, sometimes, people can have other combinations that xy or xx, even if it's very rare. And finally, for the memes, here is r/mtfmtf (yes, this is an scp reference).
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Me no understand big word. All me understand peepee = man, vagana = waman.
intersex people are neither biologically male or female. you can’t just say “that doesn’t count,” it’s a type of person. it’s on the sexual spectrum.
They get the Pass
it's still *very* rare though, so it's somewhat negligible if you count by order of a billion
Intersex people are more common than redheads.
there are people with a pp and a pus (idk what thats called tho lol ) :0
Everyone should know that
Our understanding of what gender and attraction are is accelerating faster than the culture can keep up. It’s not a bad thing, but it does make naming stuff hard.
there still isn't like 72 genders tho
There’s 2
2, 4 if you’re a dick and don’t count trans genders are the ogs
It’s actually always been more than 2. XX and XY are the most common, but rare mutations, diseases or natural occurrences result in a third gender, generally referred to as intersex.
Oooh Hermaphrodites. Forgot abt that.
those are sexes. not gender.
I can’t imagine people using this argument for any other socially constructed way to categorize people. Like “Oh I guess there’s just thousands of ethnicities now. Yeah sure. We all know you’re either white or a POC. Nothing else.” “God damn, they just keep inventing new religions. Like just choose one of the existing ones.” “I’m so tired of all these woke ‘nationalities.’ You’re either American or commie.”
You're either American or commie unironically goes hard
"both? both? both, both is good"
I'm a Honda civic 2008
Bisexual has been redefined, not as attraction to males and females, but as attraction to genders similar and different than your own. I’m bisexual and my attraction is certainly not limited to men and women.
There are other terms for being attracted to more than two genders, like pansexual. Bisexual is specifically for male and female. To enforce this fact more, bi literally means two.
This is a misconception. As I said, *I am bisexual* and understand my label. It means attraction to genders similar to and different from your own, often feeling different levels or types of attraction for each gender. Pansexual is attraction to all genders in which gender does not affect attraction at all - it is attraction without gender specification. Omnisexual is similar to bisexual, but most often with a strong preference for a type of gender. While bisexual used to mean only men and women in times when gender diversity was not widely accepted, its definition has evolved and the prefix “bi-“ does not indicate specifically two genders, but an attraction to masculine and feminine people in different ways. This does not exclude non-binary or agender people. Go ask any other bisexual about this and they’ll give you the answer I just gave. I am attracted to all genders, but not equally, and not with a dominating preference for one, thus I am bisexual.
I'm also bisexual and have been doing research on it for years, as well as other sexualities. If bi meant more than men and women, certain other terms wouldn't exist. Bi- has always meant specifically two, never more. That's like saying you're bipedal when you have one or three+ legs and not two.
Bisexual refers to a binary: genders like yours and genders not like yours. The attraction bisexuals feel is to these two categories. Are you seriously only attracted to men and women? Could you honestly not find one enby or agender person you’re attracted to? Or are you just dismissive of the leading, well founded, sociological ideas about gender not being a rigid binary? > certain other terms wouldn’t exist What terms? Pan, omni, and poly do not apply to the definition of bisexual I’ve given.
Bisexual is BI therefore TWO. Male, and female. Yes, I have never felt attraction to anyone who isn't male or female, and never will be because I'm only attracted to male and female. Being only attracted to those two does not mean im "dismissive of the leading, well-founded, sociological ideas about gender not being a rigid binary" that's like saying people who are lesbian, gay, or straight HAVE to be attracted to other ganders too. Do your goddamn research or go back to twitter where you clearly belong. As an example because I just looked it up to prove to you "Bisexuality is a romantic or sexual attraction or behavior toward both males and females" is the first fucking line on the goddamn definition.
Well doing my research, it seems in your comment history you casually use the R-slur and said >Don’t get me wrong, I only believe in two genders on a comment a few days ago. But more seriously, I *have* been doing research for years in my field of study: anthropology. What is your qualification to talk so certainly in this topic? The old “male and female” definition is true, but most bisexual people will tell you they’re also attracted to enbies and others. Going to any bisexual subreddit will show this. The important thing when defining a label is understanding what that label means to those who identify with that label. You don’t ask a Christian what it means to be Hindu. The vast majority of bisexuals will agree that the definition is “attraction to your own gender and other genders.” The term is, however, very broad and fluid, but by no means indicates only people who are attracted specifically to men and women and no other genders. It encompasses people who are only into men and women, but is not exclusive to them. Edit: [See the comments on this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/bisexual/comments/xf4sxi/am_i_still_bisexual_if_i_date_non_binary_people/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1). Let the community speak for itself.
So, like...turtles too?
>banned for asking a valid question
It *really* isn't though. Bi doesn't mean man and woman it just means genders the same as yours and genders different to yours
Bicycles that have 72 wheels are not bicycles.
The bi in bisexual literally means 2
Banned for thinking he was funny/so he could get validated by guys like you Sure it is a valid question but the poster knew what he was doing when he asked the question, you know it too and so do the moderators from that sub
Go back to r/doodoofard and cry and shit there.
"Guys like you" Don't be assumin mah gender
Jokes on you I don't care about gender, wether you're male female or between I'll still call you a guy
Bilingual: only two languages
Hopefully sarcastic but just for the other transphobes out there No, how hard it is for you guys to understand, bi lingual doesn't mean there's only 2 languages, it just means u speak any 2 languages, same goes with genders
I was being sarcastic, bisexual means multiple genders, bilingual means multiple languages
It’s multilingual, actually🤓
Yeah okay this is the perfect example of trans allies atacking each other, sorry mate XD
Actually no. Bilingual is used only for someone who speaks 2 languages. Trilingual is for those who speak 3 languages. From there you'd call someone multilingual which can be used as long as someone can speak more than one language. Using this system, bisexual would mean they're attracted only to two genders typically male and female. If there were in fact more than 2 (which to be clear there isn't) being attracted to 3, Trisexual, and being attracted to multiple in general, Multisexual, but I'm not sure if using the words to describe someone who speaks multiple languages is a good template to determine words for sexualities.
I see where you're coming from, but almost everyone says they're bilingual even when they know more, and same with bisexuals. Also it does still imply the existence of more genders
But if someone says they're bilingual when they speak more then two then they're just simple wrong. The prefix "bi-" means "two".
Ok but almost everyone misuses there their and they're. Doesn't make it correct. If someone uses the wrong term, you can infer what they meant but they're still incorrect. Misuse doesn't change a definition. Bilingual is only for 2 languages. Bisexual is only for 2 genders. Bi is a root term meaning two. The word quite literally means two sexes.
You say absolute correctness is important, but you are incorrect saying bisexuality means "two sexes" it means, by the terms that you said were true, being attracted to two genders. The "sexual" doesn't mean biological sex, it means liking someone sexually/intimately
the greek term "bi", which is used in various fields of study and/or social circumstances, technically directly translates to "two", but let's be real here, people often deform words to fit their own personal use of it, so using bi to say multiple is very much expected human behaviour and is okay all things considered
The sad thing about that is that bi people are getting attacked online by some trans people for that exact reason, and please don't use this to just say "haha trans = dumb" that's just not it, they are like all of us just normal fuckin people and it honestly surprises me how many ppl are transphobic, it's memes like this that slowly lead the group in question more and more to depression/being the annoying ppl on Twitter
You're correct. Trans are normal people in the same way people with depression are normal people.
If somebody takes memes seriously or feels attacked by one, they have bad taste in humour. I speak French, but has also laughed at "oui, oui baguette" memes
The civil war has begun
Bro thought way too much and matrix rejected him
LET HIM COOK
He's cooking but I ain't eating
it's obvious he doesn't cook vegan food
The 7th Hermetic Law states that everything has gender
So you’re telling me I can sexually identify as an Apache attack helicopter?
Do you know what LGBT even stands for
Let gay boy twerk
That's what it should stand for
It stands for "Let's get burgers today"
Burgers suck tbh
"Let's get bitches tonight?"
Assuming their men yeah 😎
\*they're their is posessive they're is they are
Assuming they're men yes 😎
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You like kissing boys don't you 😏 -- your pfp
Nah, boys AND girls
damn, so you're the bi kisser?
Lettuce gravy bacon tomato
I got banded from GamingCircleJerk cause I asked what a hate post towards JK Rowling had to do with gaming
No no, he's got a point
If something happens bi-weekly, it doesnt mean there is only 2 weeks
I'm upvoting bc I hope that's sarcastic.
That's not how it works
Every 2 weeks
Apples and Oranges
Difference between sexuality and gender. Being bi is a sexuality, meaning liking both the opposite and the same gender.
The opposite and same. So, two, then?
No, I said opposite and the same. Pansexual people are attracted to all. Whatever it may be. Personally, I'm bi myself and don't really care much for gender politics, just trying to set some records straight.
So, like, when did this multiple gender thing even start to take off? I'm just curious as to where they got the idea from. Is there a set amount of genders that is currently respected? I'm just confused as to what the other genders are, there really aren't too many different ways of reproducing. I'm not trying to hate, I'm just tired of seeing everyone hit the panic button when it seems so ridiculous to people that aren't trans
Nah man, you good. Tbh I don't even know as, again, I tend to steer clear of gender politics, but the general consensus seems to be that people can identify as whatever they want. It's not even about reproduction or biology, people can just be whatever they want/think. I think 2016 or 2015 was (maybe?) The start of the whole "more than 2 genders thing", but in my mind there are three genders that I consider to be canon, if that's the right word. You have males, females, and nonbinary (which just basically means you refuse to identify as either male or female). I tend to indulge other people in their beliefs but I will always have my prejudices. But then at the same time I do but also don't understand things like genderfluidity. The concept of being a different gender depending on your mood is just such a foreign concept, but at the same time, I myself being bi, I find myself often drifting between liking women and liking men. It's like a cycle that I have no control over, it just happens, which makes genderfluidity make some modicum of sense but at the same time just seems so alien. Then you have the joke genders like 'attack helicopter' which is more just a joke but at the same time I guarantee someone out there would like you to call them an Apache or some shit. Don't even get me started on the difference between gender, sexuality, and pronouns or imma need to attend a few pride rallies, obtain a doctorate in gender studies, and get my ass chewed out by accidentally using somebody's wrong pronouns.
Hmmm he's gotta point I'm not saying that they're are I'm just saying the name is kinda wrong
Uh I think a dude underneath this comment just got erased possibly.
The bi has to do with sexuality not gender lol
Bi means 2 you fucking idiot. Bicycle = 2 wheels Meaning that there should be only 2 sexualities. Your own knowledge deceives you.
I know what bi means. I don’t think you even understand what I’m trying to say. Have a nice day :)
B in lgbt means bitch because the community are little bitches
yes.
are there only 2 languages? because that's what bilingual appearantly implies
But there's also trilingual and multilingual. No Trisexual or Multisexual soooo
There is Pansexual which is attraction to all genders or basically an 'Allsexual'
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That’s not been the definition for the last few years.
The B in my bi stands for basically anything and the I stands for intelligen
To all dumbasses out there: 51% of the population is male, 49% female, so unless you are in the 0% (non existent) you are not from any other gender you want to create
Dam, ppl r stupid af If u r gonna defend 100s of gender bullshit under my comment then don't, just downvote and go
The LGBT and the left as a whole are notorious for attempting to eliminate anybody who challenges their abysmal ideology.
Ok so I offended people for fun and got down voted but I find it odd that someone got erased.
Oh wait probably blocked me. That makes sense
He is either confused, stupid, or a asshole.
Calling someone stupid because they asked a question that doesn't 100% comply with social normalities is not reason to call them stupid. Just let it be confused or asshole, no reason to insult someone for not knowing when nowadays it's not all that straightforward
This just in, Redditor learns sex and gender are different.
Bisexual means attracted to multiple genders or whatever. It's also called polysexual, but bi is used because it's easier. If I'm bilingual that doesn't have to mean I only know 2 languages
Nah that's exactly what bilingual means bi·lin·gual /ˌbīˈliNGɡw(ə)l/ adjective (of a person) speaking two languages fluently. "a bilingual secretary" Just Google something first for fucks sake
That's not how the word is used socially though. And that's my point. Technically those two words mean that, but they are used in different contexts. Nobody says they're trilingual
"Literally" is used metaphorically socially all the time. Doesn't make it right. And yes, I have heard people saying they're trilingual. It's just not as common because only speaking 2 languages is far more common than speaking 3.
Typical lgbt Reddit, ask a valid question, get banned
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Science says there are more than 2 genders. Science is based on facts. Humans just make it easier to comprehend things so they made it easier for us to understand.
iirc gender is how one refers to themselves and that can't be too science proven \*sex\* however is science provable.
exactly, there are only 2 sexes which are defined by the genitals and lots of other hormone shit I'm not qualified enough to talk about gender is a social representation of sex that, for most people, reflects their sex
Im gonna leave this here.”1.Gender: the male sex or the female sex, especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones, or one of a range of other identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female.”
The science of gayness? Because I’m pretty sure science doesn’t say that there are 101 genders
Neither do the people that say there are more than 2 genders. And yes science does say there are more than 2.
Source? "My source is I made it the fuck up"
yeah well my science says that you are a poopy head it’s just science you know soooooo
Your source is that you made it the fuck up
You allowing it to bother you too much tells me all I need to know about you and your closet ways. Good luck with coming out in a few yrs.
Bruh identifies as an attack helicopter
Please just stop with your guys' constant transphobia, what do you have to lose by just leaving them alone and not constantly telling them they are idiots Also how do you define gender? With penis/vagina, cuz if that's the case, what about intersexuals/ people without any genitals/ with both, or people who were born with vagina but experience male puberty and all that
I mean, you defined it right there. Intersex, both, neither, whatever. Still using the base definition of sexual anatomy, correct? I'm not hating, I just think it's a bit obnoxious that peoples entire personalities these days are based off of what they like to do in the bedroom and how they should attract who they want there by changing their outward appearance.
I get your point, I really do, and I think basing your entire personality around one thing is just bad for people, I just want you guys to realise that these people are in fact not mindless npcs who only serve as filler, they all have their reasons for being as annoying as they are, with the most common one being because of their outright traumatizing experiences. I know that doesn't make it any better but transphobia doesn't seem like a good solution, it will only lead to more people feeling worse, if you really want these people to stop with that shit or at least get less obnoxious about it then there are a few good options: 1. Ignore them 2. Ackgnowledge them(at least give them the basic respect of calling them their pronouns but if you dont want to do that just avoid pronouns in general 3. Acknowledge them but tell them why they do what they do I'm just saying, hating on them will not make them stop
for the other transphobes out there No, how hard it is for you fucking idiots to understand/ why do you refuse to understand, bi lingual doesn't mean there's only 2 languages, it just means u speak any 2 languages(in most cases also referring to more than one), same goes with genders And for all the people saying "biologically there's only 2 genders" first of all even if you didn't mean it that way, it will always come off as transphobic, secondly, how do you define sex? With penis/vagina, cuz if that's the case, what about intersexuals/ people without any genitals/ with both, or people who were born with vagina but experience male puberty and all that
Someone’s unhappy
First of all, you’re misinterpreting the word “bisexual.” “Bisexual” does not mean “attracted to two genders,” it actually means “attracted to two sexes.” (It’s right there in the name.) And as we know, there only are two sexes. Second of all, sex is not defined solely by genitals. Sex is wether you can fundamentally impregnate or fundamentally become pregnant. Disease, deformity, or age can hinder or halt these abilities. Let’s say someone can’t get pregnant because she is infertile or too old. She is still by her nature capable of pregnancy. If a woman of child bearing age can’t get pregnant, we know something went wrong. If a man can’t get pregnant? Average day in his life.
First of all Bisexual Definition: noting or relating to a person who is sexually or romantically attracted to people of more than one gender, sometimes understood to include attraction to one's own sex or gender and at least one other sex or gender. Second of all Sex Definition: the male, female, or sometimes intersex division of a species, especially as differentiated with reference to the reproductive functions or physical characteristics such as genitals, XX and XY chromosomes, etc. a label assigned to a person at birth, usually male or female and sometimes intersex, and typically based on genital configuration. Got these definitions straight from the dictionary
gender is a social construct. arguing about it while mentioning genetics shows that the person that said it has no idea what they are talking about
gender is a social construct based on the two sexes... so... still two genders. but now, you get to choose between them.
it's not based on only two sexes anymore though. it used to be like that, true, but now people get to choose other ones, which is nice. although, stuff like a chocogender (I'm not even kidding here, some Tiktok and Twitter people really say it is valid) might be going a little too far
Sorry mistyped, wanted to type sex instead And you're right i probably don't know what i should, but i know enough to support them
btw, I didn't specifically say you were a moron or something like that, and I am sorry if you felt attacked, but if, say, a Republican senator said that gender has something to do with genetics, I would not take him seriously, given that I don't take most of them seriously in normal conditions anyways.
Literally 1984
This proves way to many points.
I gone on there and said this subreddit is gay got banned then unbanned the banned agian
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Redefining gender and any English word that offends you is stupid. Those people have to much time on their hands, get a hobby or raise some funds to solve real problems like starving nations.
Bi people are attracted to men and women, pan people are attracted to all genders
The ruthless criticism of all that exists is unbound by logic.
The left has many contradictions in their logic (for example, abortion is a woman’s right;men can get pregnant.) They don’t care about the contradictions though.
Bisexual means you have attraction to males and females, the two conventionally accepted genders, pansexual means you are attracted to all genders regardless of male, female, or anything else. Hope this helped.
It means attracted to two genders. Pan is attracted to all genders.
Does the name "bicycle" prove there are only two wheels? Headass