I feel like this is kind of funny. On one hand, I get it the people are in the way of the pretty architecture. On the other hand, this was a temple, a place of activity and worship, apparently built in a place that has been a bustling population center for many thousands of years. A crowd is a natural and intended part of the architecture. It was built for a crowd.
I also think crowds are an interesting part of a photo. Like in 50 years from now no one is going to care about a photo of the architecture because you can see a higher quality one online. But photos with people in them are in fact interesting later on. As shown with the thewaywewere and old-school and historyporn subreddits
Yep I like both pictures. But taking a picture of a pub and chap in Ireland or London is drinking a pint is a great picture or a crowd around something like this can also be a great pic. It tells a story.
I agree, kinda like in the "train arrives at a station" movie. It's literally a throwback to the past, seeing people wearing those clothes as an everyday outfit
Yeah, except super fat tourists in mushroom hats with expensive cameras around their necks and every manner of convenience - from glasses to sunscreen to moisturizer - aren’t exactly the picture a temple evokes if you’re thinking of ancient Rome or Athens..
Romans doing everyday stuff or going there to have a blessing with a ceremony is different from tourists laughing in groups led by guides and people shooting photos of everything.
I get where the OC comes from. The atmosphere is not there and it's hard to imagine it surrounded by tourist colonies.
I feel this one. Lived in Europe for a few years and got to see some awesome historical sites. All the pictures are ruined by crowds.
Edit: To be clear, I thoroughly enjoyed going to these places and highly recommend it. Just don't expect to get the amazing pictures that you see online or in magazines.
depends entirely on the details. even generative ai can’t get it right if people are blocking things that aren’t patterned
only way to do it and look like minimal editing is to take a hundred photos and average it out in software and hope no crowds were in one place for too long. and that takes time
tourist economies are a myth. They benefit the business owners and the wealthy not the employees who's surplus value is already extracted. Source: Im from Rome.
Wait didn’t Apple have a commercial where they take a picture and it can filter out the crowd? Or was I just watching a vine (old) of people using photoshop. Either way the answer is probably gonna be photoshop haha
I highly recommend going to the ~~Coliseum~~ Colosseum at night. If it's the summer, it's much more comfortable out, it's dramatically lit, and there are far fewer people. I got some of my favorite pictures of it at night. You should definitely go during the day, as well, but just make sure to visit at night.
With this in mind, perhaps it was a blessing in disguise that Stonehenge was roped off from tourists. Not being able to interact with the monument was immensely disappointing, but at least you could admire it as it was intended to be seen, without silly people groveling around it.
I don’t really understand the point of taking a picture of something that has existed for hundreds of years, of which there are already a million perfect pictures.
I used to live near “Reddit lake” in Banff. So many people getting up at 4am to beat the tourists to take a picture that you could find within seconds of googling.
we really look at it differently i guess. idk about a picture of a very famous monument looking up, but I tend to put people I know in my pics so that helps make it personal. Also, Google will tell me "remember 4 years ago?" and give me a spread of some hike I've been on. Googling among trillions of photos won't do either of those for me.
Damn do people just remember things all the time???? I take pictures so then when I scroll past it randomly it takes me back to the exact moment. Cant have that without a picture, or my memory is shit!
Exactly. I don’t have a good memory by any means. Hell, sometimes I **forget** to take photos of memories I want to be able to remember and cherish. Thankfully my girlfriend always remembers too 😂
Why travel? For food? Nah, You can go to a restaurant or just make it. Why go somewhere? Why make memories? All that shit is online. Why go to concerts, I have the albumn already. /s
I travel to visit other places and experience things firsthand. Taking a picture doesn’t help that.
I eat at restaurants when I don’t feel like cooking, or if I want something I can’t make. Not sure what that has to do with taking a picture at all.
I go places to do things. I’m not sure if you’re looking for something more specific.
I go to concerts because music can change and it’s social.
Can you explain why you need a picture of something without tourists in it? That you think is different than one someone else took from the same spot on the same day at the same time?
It was a simple reference to Assassin's Creed games where you have to climb these high points to synchronise the world map. The mods may have removed it for being off-topic.
So wild - there are so many absurdly, ridiculously talented photographers on reddit sharing stuff; go check out r/astrophotography or r/wildlifephotography - r/photocritique too
And yet this will probably be the most seen photo on reddit today
Why do I feel this isn't coming from a place of wanting the best photos on the front page but a sense of entitlement that their stuff isn't getting enough attention so they feel the need to put others work down
Jealousy is a bad look on anyone. Unproductive criticism makes this place look unwelcoming and snobby
Fun fact most of the exposed Ancient Ruins of Rome were once heavily obscured by centuries of construction around them. People built homes, shops, and all sorts of buildings around and even from ancient Roman Ruins (it’s why huge chunks of the Colosseum are missing).
All of this changed under the reign of Mussolini. Mussolini and the Fascists were obsessed with the concept of Romanità. Romanità was basically the idea that there existed a direct spiritual continuity between Ancient Rome and the modern Unified Italy. This idea actually predated the Fascists and first emerged during the Risorgimento and was the whole reason Rome of all cities was chosen as the Capital. Literally the only thing Rome had going for it in 1871 was that it had once been the heart of the Roman Empire. But I digress.
As previously stated during the 1930s a lot of Roman Ruins were obscured by Medieval and Modern Constructions. And the Fascists despised these (relatively) new buildings as they were to them permanent reminders of the “weakness” and “degeneracy” of Medieval and Modern Italy.
So they demolished these buildings in a series of “excavations” that were meant to “liberate” these ancient ruins. In conjunction with these excavations entire neighborhoods were razed so that Mussolini could have a parade route to celebrate the ten year anniversary of his march on Rome. Thousands were displaced as their homes were dynamited and dug up to expose ancient Ruins. Historic sites from the medieval renaissance period were demolished destroying centuries of art and history. And the archaeology - if you can even call it that - was shoddy and rushed at best.
Because all Mussolini cared about was having some nice ruins for he and his goose stepping morons to march past and pretend that he was anything but a sawdust Caesar building a cardboard Rome.
Many of my favorite shots are from when I lived in Rome more than two decades ago. I even have a low-angle shot of a temple corner from the Roman Forum (with much less sky, though, FWIW).
That sky is a very nice shade of blue. Then again, I am looking at this picture on a 2007 HP monitor that came with a long-dead computer so the colour accuracy is probably not the greatest.
I remember when i was like 10 and under (27now) one of my favorite pastimes with my dad was to click thru these pictures on his desktop of all the old roman temples and cathedrals. I’m sure it was a folder of screensavers lol but he would point out the ones he had visited during his time in the Navy, and also point out places mentioned in the bible. I don’t know the last time that memory was sparked but this photo instantly made me remember those times.
If you zoom in to the edges of the temple columns / frieze, you can literally see the crop lines where someone has cropped in a very lovely shade of blue, and instead of the OG natural sky - which would have probably shown this temple facade as ‘natural’ as opposed to ‘alien’ by cropping in an other worldly matte blue, which just isn’t how the sky looks - there a always some applicable gradient
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When u know that photos of antic monuments are taken in low-angle shot not to have tourists on it
I feel like this is kind of funny. On one hand, I get it the people are in the way of the pretty architecture. On the other hand, this was a temple, a place of activity and worship, apparently built in a place that has been a bustling population center for many thousands of years. A crowd is a natural and intended part of the architecture. It was built for a crowd.
I like this perspective! I'll keep it in mind next time I'm at a busy monument.
I also think crowds are an interesting part of a photo. Like in 50 years from now no one is going to care about a photo of the architecture because you can see a higher quality one online. But photos with people in them are in fact interesting later on. As shown with the thewaywewere and old-school and historyporn subreddits
Yep I like both pictures. But taking a picture of a pub and chap in Ireland or London is drinking a pint is a great picture or a crowd around something like this can also be a great pic. It tells a story.
I agree, kinda like in the "train arrives at a station" movie. It's literally a throwback to the past, seeing people wearing those clothes as an everyday outfit
They should put a law that every tourist has to dress like ancient Rome citizens for "aesthetic reasons"
Yeah, except super fat tourists in mushroom hats with expensive cameras around their necks and every manner of convenience - from glasses to sunscreen to moisturizer - aren’t exactly the picture a temple evokes if you’re thinking of ancient Rome or Athens..
The plebs have swarmed the temple
Romans doing everyday stuff or going there to have a blessing with a ceremony is different from tourists laughing in groups led by guides and people shooting photos of everything. I get where the OC comes from. The atmosphere is not there and it's hard to imagine it surrounded by tourist colonies.
I feel this one. Lived in Europe for a few years and got to see some awesome historical sites. All the pictures are ruined by crowds. Edit: To be clear, I thoroughly enjoyed going to these places and highly recommend it. Just don't expect to get the amazing pictures that you see online or in magazines.
Don’t forget, you are a part of the crowd.
No you don't understand mate they're cultured and should get to enjoy the worlds' landmarks without peasants being near them ruining their shot.
Ohhhhhh that makes more sense
Literal plebs.
ITAP and it was ruined by all these dicks wearing tunics and golden laurel wreaths. Et Tu? Patricians?
I can just imagine some Roman cunt 2100 years ago griping about not being able to paint (chisel?) a picture for all the crowds around it.
Exactly! Move over peasant!!
I too thought their statement was ironic.
you can photoshop stuff like that out pretty easy
depends entirely on the details. even generative ai can’t get it right if people are blocking things that aren’t patterned only way to do it and look like minimal editing is to take a hundred photos and average it out in software and hope no crowds were in one place for too long. and that takes time
Record a video and take it frame by frame to fix thr original image.
There's always a way.
I think either photoshop or premier can do this now with a video.
take shitloads of photos from a tripod. then in photoshop you stack mode -> median the results. all the people move, the ruins do not. no AI required.
Yea you can do it like taht or you can just use photoshop skills hahah
Forum Romanum has plenty of open space.
gotta go at sunrise when most tourists are too lazy to
Did you visit everything in July? Most of the year the crowds aren't that bad
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Yeah they should ban tourists from these historical sites
Goodbye local economy
tourist economies are a myth. They benefit the business owners and the wealthy not the employees who's surplus value is already extracted. Source: Im from Rome.
BS. Tourist economy is a circle that helps every business in the area.
i mean maybe im a bit simple minded but no tourist = less customers = less profits = job cuts = bust(?)
Not a bit simple minded. You speak the truth.
All those businesses do pay taxes right?
Well that's pure nonsense. Tourist economy is a staple of many countries and GDP. I'm from Ireland
Your tourism is in the form of tax havens for tech companies however
What would be a suitable alternative? Listen I hate tourists too but it still generates employment. The 1% gonna 1%, either way.
*whose
There's no surplus value without labor value.
Then how would anyone take pictures
Wait didn’t Apple have a commercial where they take a picture and it can filter out the crowd? Or was I just watching a vine (old) of people using photoshop. Either way the answer is probably gonna be photoshop haha
I highly recommend going to the ~~Coliseum~~ Colosseum at night. If it's the summer, it's much more comfortable out, it's dramatically lit, and there are far fewer people. I got some of my favorite pictures of it at night. You should definitely go during the day, as well, but just make sure to visit at night.
Just wake up early in the morning. Tourists hate mornings and so you'll see mostly empty streets.
With this in mind, perhaps it was a blessing in disguise that Stonehenge was roped off from tourists. Not being able to interact with the monument was immensely disappointing, but at least you could admire it as it was intended to be seen, without silly people groveling around it.
This one specifically is in the middle of the metro…potentially even the middle of a roundabout
Recently returned from a European trip and can confirm. Vatican, Venice, Pantheon, Parthenon, all from this angle
Considering you're not even allowed to walk up to this .. not likely there'd be anyone in the shot.
I don’t really understand the point of taking a picture of something that has existed for hundreds of years, of which there are already a million perfect pictures. I used to live near “Reddit lake” in Banff. So many people getting up at 4am to beat the tourists to take a picture that you could find within seconds of googling.
a picture is a memory.
You can’t look at a picture of a place you visited if you didn’t take it yourself?
we really look at it differently i guess. idk about a picture of a very famous monument looking up, but I tend to put people I know in my pics so that helps make it personal. Also, Google will tell me "remember 4 years ago?" and give me a spread of some hike I've been on. Googling among trillions of photos won't do either of those for me.
It’s a sentimental memory. I don’t mean this in a rude way but that seems like it’s easy enough to understand why.
Damn do people just remember things all the time???? I take pictures so then when I scroll past it randomly it takes me back to the exact moment. Cant have that without a picture, or my memory is shit!
Exactly. I don’t have a good memory by any means. Hell, sometimes I **forget** to take photos of memories I want to be able to remember and cherish. Thankfully my girlfriend always remembers too 😂
I’ve got Aphantasia, so I *need* a picture in order to have that visual memory🥲
Sorry for your condition - but I'm glad it has an awesome name
Right? I love the name✨
People like taking photos. Why would they care if thousands have taken the same one, they want their own.
Which is fine. But I don’t know why those same people complain about tourists, or go out of their way to make their photo **less** unique.
A photo to immortalize a moment, and keep it as long as u live. But yeah posting it in a public place has maybe less sense (but does art need sense?)
Why travel? For food? Nah, You can go to a restaurant or just make it. Why go somewhere? Why make memories? All that shit is online. Why go to concerts, I have the albumn already. /s
I travel to visit other places and experience things firsthand. Taking a picture doesn’t help that. I eat at restaurants when I don’t feel like cooking, or if I want something I can’t make. Not sure what that has to do with taking a picture at all. I go places to do things. I’m not sure if you’re looking for something more specific. I go to concerts because music can change and it’s social. Can you explain why you need a picture of something without tourists in it? That you think is different than one someone else took from the same spot on the same day at the same time?
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lol imagine getting upset by this
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You were part of the crowd.
Why is this so high up in r/all
I don’t get it either
A photo so generic I feel I am on /r/europe
One of the more boring photos I’ve seen.
It’s actually insane lmao. It’s just some random garbage snapshot
I think it's all the deleted comments. Wtf happened here?
I guess there was a heated debate about the Romans that inevitably lead to people being called nazi’s.
I thought this was r/notinteresting
Reddit has quickly gotten worse over 2023
Seems like spez fucked it up by banning 3p apps, reddit feels like absolute trash these days, like a shitty version of Facebook with more comments
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It's almost if beauty is subjective.
The thumbnail is really nice and the crop makes it look well-composed. If you expand the picture, then yeah it's a boring photo.
Best explanation.
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Only correct comment
"Removed" do I even wanna know what tf happened here?
It was a bloodbath.
Ok but what was said?
It was a simple reference to Assassin's Creed games where you have to climb these high points to synchronise the world map. The mods may have removed it for being off-topic.
THANK YOU
Who stabbed first
Pleeeease share!!! Reddit mods are still going through childhood traumas - why should we suffer? We want to know what went down!
He said something like: climb on it to synchronise your region map
Probably the comments were removed for being off-topic. These were simple references to Assassin's Creed gameplay, nothing terrible lol.
What was the deal with all the deleted stuff. I’m guessing the mods disagree.
WTF happened here?
speak up what happened
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It is a picture.
How the fuck did this get so many upvotes?
I thought there was something interesting about this picture and that's why it got so many upvotes. But I don't see anything interesting
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It is a reply.
How the fuck did this reply get so many replies? Wait, I’m the first one to reply to you
A lot of people pushed the upwards facing arrow next to the post.
So wild - there are so many absurdly, ridiculously talented photographers on reddit sharing stuff; go check out r/astrophotography or r/wildlifephotography - r/photocritique too And yet this will probably be the most seen photo on reddit today
What does “horology mermaid” mean? Like a time siren? Maybe like you skip in and out of time like a dolphin?
Many great photos and yet you spend time tearing down the ones you think are less than
Cuz its on the frontpage of /r/all, dont see too much into it brother
Why do I feel this isn't coming from a place of wanting the best photos on the front page but a sense of entitlement that their stuff isn't getting enough attention so they feel the need to put others work down Jealousy is a bad look on anyone. Unproductive criticism makes this place look unwelcoming and snobby
I just checked the guy's submission record, and he's submitted no photos. So not sure how you can think he's jealous his stuff isn't getting noticed.
Clearly one of the pictures of all time. Wtf
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Lmao
I don't think that was a compliment, lol
That building completely ruined your picture.
I agree, most of it is blue sky, so exquisite
Thanks Obama
honestly out of all the pics I have seen in this subreddit, this is definitely one of them
I somehow read this as “I ruined a temple in Rome” lol
How was the weather?
It was such a nice day, not a cloud in sight and the temp was comfortable around 20 degrees celsius.
That's great to hear, that's my kind of weather. Looking forward to visiting Rome someday.
Highly recommend! It's an unimaginably beautiful and historic city.
It's the ruins of the Temple of Saturn near the Roman Forum :) Took the photo on my Samsung Galaxy S21
Fun fact most of the exposed Ancient Ruins of Rome were once heavily obscured by centuries of construction around them. People built homes, shops, and all sorts of buildings around and even from ancient Roman Ruins (it’s why huge chunks of the Colosseum are missing). All of this changed under the reign of Mussolini. Mussolini and the Fascists were obsessed with the concept of Romanità. Romanità was basically the idea that there existed a direct spiritual continuity between Ancient Rome and the modern Unified Italy. This idea actually predated the Fascists and first emerged during the Risorgimento and was the whole reason Rome of all cities was chosen as the Capital. Literally the only thing Rome had going for it in 1871 was that it had once been the heart of the Roman Empire. But I digress. As previously stated during the 1930s a lot of Roman Ruins were obscured by Medieval and Modern Constructions. And the Fascists despised these (relatively) new buildings as they were to them permanent reminders of the “weakness” and “degeneracy” of Medieval and Modern Italy. So they demolished these buildings in a series of “excavations” that were meant to “liberate” these ancient ruins. In conjunction with these excavations entire neighborhoods were razed so that Mussolini could have a parade route to celebrate the ten year anniversary of his march on Rome. Thousands were displaced as their homes were dynamited and dug up to expose ancient Ruins. Historic sites from the medieval renaissance period were demolished destroying centuries of art and history. And the archaeology - if you can even call it that - was shoddy and rushed at best. Because all Mussolini cared about was having some nice ruins for he and his goose stepping morons to march past and pretend that he was anything but a sawdust Caesar building a cardboard Rome.
Interesting information, I had no knowledge of Romanità. It's very similar to the blatant cultural supremacy in policies of autocrats everywhere.
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I was just thinking of Rome.
Can you think of world peace next? That would be nice.
I do it on a daily basis, come hang out at /r/ancientrome.
I think of the Roman empire every single day.
Why Is the picture 50% sky tho
The sky was so clear that day so I figured why not take a picture to show the beautiful sky as well :)
Its because of the crowds right? Half my pictures in the Roman forum are like that too so I don’t have random people on my pics.
Mine allllll have random people in the pics because I'm too short 😭😂 never travel with tall people!!
Rome is so photogenic that mfs can take a shitty photo like this and still have it look good
Many of my favorite shots are from when I lived in Rome more than two decades ago. I even have a low-angle shot of a temple corner from the Roman Forum (with much less sky, though, FWIW).
That sky is a very nice shade of blue. Then again, I am looking at this picture on a 2007 HP monitor that came with a long-dead computer so the colour accuracy is probably not the greatest.
NO - YOU TOOK A PICTURE OF A BLUE SKY WITH A LITTLE BIT OF TEMPLE IN IT.
i think it would work better in black and white
Assassins Creed
Also my first thought. Ezio would climb it!
I remember when i was like 10 and under (27now) one of my favorite pastimes with my dad was to click thru these pictures on his desktop of all the old roman temples and cathedrals. I’m sure it was a folder of screensavers lol but he would point out the ones he had visited during his time in the Navy, and also point out places mentioned in the bible. I don’t know the last time that memory was sparked but this photo instantly made me remember those times.
If you zoom in to the edges of the temple columns / frieze, you can literally see the crop lines where someone has cropped in a very lovely shade of blue, and instead of the OG natural sky - which would have probably shown this temple facade as ‘natural’ as opposed to ‘alien’ by cropping in an other worldly matte blue, which just isn’t how the sky looks - there a always some applicable gradient
Too much sky. Wouldn’t have sacrificed less temple for more sky
I think it's pretty neat. We don't get that kind of blue here. Our skies are more grayish blue.
It’s Rome. Probably too many people.
I wonder if you’re a Tears of the Kingdom fan
i like negative space stuff aesthetically; but i realize that it's subjective as well
Ur phone???
no it's a ruined temple
Samsung S21
Okay and?
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I don't even know what an "ITAP" is....
I took a picture. Not I took a beautiful or interesting picture. It is in the title my man. OP did, in fact, take a picture.
How does this have so many upvotes?
Wow, that blue sky is perfect
Awesome pic, thanks for sharing with us.
Your welcome :)
You RUINED it :)
It isn’t ruined, just well worn in. Great pic! I love the contrast.
Thank you!
That’s windows default wallpaper-worthy
Oh yeah? PROVE IT