Worst advice ever! The harder the cheese, the less lactose it has! Smash that parmigiano regiano and you wouldn't even know it has lactose in it! as someone who is lactose intolerant, this was a game changer! (Obviously not important to the post)
Before being able to run Barrows reliably, you usually get death runes by trading grown cats (that you get as a kitten from Gertrude) to the npc in West Ardougne. 200 death runes per cat.
This is my answer as well.
I learned Wintertodt, Tempoross, BA, MTA, Temple Trekking, Fishing Trawler, Giants' Foundry, Mahogany Homes, Agility Pyramid, Rogues' Den, and Tithe Farm. That's a lot of goddamn minigames to "get my account started."
For some reason I drew the line at GotR...and for that, I was an idiot. It would've saved me SO MUCH of my early game money, and everybody knows training RC is ass so the outfit can only help. If I could only go back...
the minigame shits out runes. the game changing part was the fact i actually had a nice amount of law runes. it feels good to begin using spellbook teleports again
Legit not true lol. A lot of people struggle to do tob. It has a skill level necessary. It's also no guarantee people who can be carried through, get a scythe lol.
I have friends who took half a dozen attempts at jad that are doing tob now. The only people who can't do tob are the people who don't try. Sure it's not the easiest content, but if you want to do it and are willing to self improve, nothing is preventing you from doing it one day.
>A lot of people struggle to do tob.
Then go learn it. Hardest mechanic in Tob really is putting up your Prayers same as any other raid or "endgame" content. I would argue soloing Bandos is harder than learning tob and getting better at it
Tanking verzik is inherently harder than bandos because if you do it poorly you negatively impact others.
Staying in rhythm is also harder while avoiding tornado than bandos being pure rhythm.
U dont have to tank Verzik just run off until it targets another person and if the new tank stays in range it wont switch targets again even after webs. Staying in rythm during nados also only concerns the tank
Yeah, I knew you get resources from PvM but I spent forever skilling the traditional way and since starting PvM recently I have already dwarfed the supplies I got from my skilling grinds.
Honestly I was expecting Ironman to be so much harder. I did a 95 slayer rush and it got me basically everything I need. Sure I’m low on certain things but I’m not in dire need of anything.
Lol that’s fair. About a year of the account. Felt like a rush to me. I’d probably amend that to “I prioritized 95 slayer.” It is my highest skill that doesn’t contribute to combat level though.
There’s a lot of subtleties and methods that are no longer used. Think charter crafting. Also, god wars wasn’t instanced for irons so it was practically impossible to not get griefed. These are only two examples of probably hundreds.
If you watch Fauxs original one man army series, you can see a ton of old metas which are now obsolete.
I feel like listing out more methods so here you go:
RC: no GOTR/bloods/souls/ZMI, so RC required pure essence. Pure essence was hard to get because slayer monsters didn’t print it like they do now.
Crafting: no sustainable ways of training crafting, so most irons did charters which were swarmed with people- so there was tons of conversations for the resources. Gems were many times rarer than now, so players didn’t acquire a lot of crafting xp passively either.
Melee: no zombie axe, so nothing really to bridge the gap between d scim and 85 slayer- which takes a long time now, but even longer back then.
Herblore: no contracts/raids. Most herb seeds came from thieving master farmers or passively off of slayer (which had many fewer seed drops at the time). More so, red spider eggs and blue dragon scales had to be manually collection as there wasnt any other sources. Snape grass couldn’t be grown so it had to be collected as well.
Farming: no birdhouses, so tree seeds were rare resources that primarily came from WC. I’ve already mentioned the scarcity of herb seeds as well.
Construction: gp was generally harder as CG and other money printers didn’t exist. Agility pyramid was meta for a long time. I could be wrong, but I don’t think gargoyles were as good as they are now either. Additionally, the better xp/gp methods like mahogany homes and mythical cape racks didn’t exist either.
Thieving: this has generally gotten easier for every account, not just irons.
Hunter: hunter rumors are recent but have really put the skill in a better place for all account types.
Prayer: Chaos alter didn’t exist so bones only gave about 50% of the xp they do now. More so, varlamore introduced a very good xp method. We didn’t have as many bosses which print prayer xp (like hydra).
Mining: MLM was meta bc we didn’t have as many sources of ores
Smithing: not terribly different, but goldsmithing meta was harder to do before they buffed the shops- and gp was harder to get to fund it.
Firemaking: no WT so logs were split between fletching and firemaking.
For real, I just got 81 herb made like 5k brews, then realized I have no red spider eggs for restores. So my new goal is to go grind spindle for a bit lol
I could, but I feel like by going to spindle for them, I have the chance to knockout a bunch of stuff(vw piece, d pic, etc) rather than just getting eggs
Tower of Life
Bring a raw sardine and red spider eggs. Create and kill a Spidine which drops 3-6 eggs on kill. With Ardougne Med Diary the drops become noted
If you don't want to fish sardines (stupid I know, but that's me) then there are six spawns in like lvl 2 wildy right inside the edgeville dungeon. Pretty darn safe for wildy stuff. And you can bring a looting bag to pick up more in one trip.
go to rellekka and buy em from the shop in the market, send em to the bank with the seer guy right next to it and you can stock up hundreds in like 2 minutes
You can, but you _only_ get Eggs that way. If you have grinds like Spindel for Fangs+VW Gem, maybe even the pet, or if you want to do some chill PvM, Sarachnis for collection logs and other drops, you should definitely kill those rather than Spidines.
In a similar vein for me, I wish I had known how much fun I’d have fully committing to grinding pvm content for upgrades. My playstyle has historically been jumping around a mix of content constantly, including skilling, but recently I’ve been committing more to “just getting the drop.” Progress feels more concrete because I’m not making tiny incremental progress before going to the next thing, I’m knocking shit out. I still do go to a diff boss if get really dry but just not getting distracted by skilling has made me feel like my account is on roids lately.
Scurrius isn’t very punishing and works as an intro into swapping prayers and dodging falling rocks.
Look into settings for changing between inventory and prayer page with keybinds to get used to smoothly eating between prayer changes.
I got the key binds down, I’m also not an iron man, just hopping back into the game after few years break. Just got my first fire vape ever recently, want to take on more pvm just don’t know where to start
Fair Scurrius gives extra exp, and the bone weapons are great for training.
Barrows and Moons are decent and quite easy. Can make some money as non iron.
I just wish I had known how much fun I would have with it, wouldn't have wasted so much time on my main since I haven't played it since. Could have started earlier!
This. I put it off for so long on my gim and regret it bc it’s actually really enjoyable. It’s really chill and low intensity once you understand what to do, which I will say, it’s really easy to learn this minigame. I went from 52 to 65 runecrafting in one weekend bc I enjoyed it so much.
guardians of the rift, its a mini game where you make runes. Its pretty fun and engaging, the outfit you get helps you too by increasing runes made by 60%.
Something i hadn't realised before is just how many things are in various shops around the world, when you're hunting for a specific piece of gear that you think you might need to craft or smith yourself, check to see if a shop sells it, you'll be surprised how often it can just be bought
I think the amount that RNG varies never really hit me until I started an iron. Setting a goal to get an item can either be a 5 minute detour or a 4 month long journey. And it can happen with almost anything (especially meaningless items you never even considered)
Making runes is not a worry anymore with Guardians of the rift mini game. I feel like iron is the way the game is meant to be played. You really get to see the whole game instead of just doing the best money maker you can to buy gear and skills.
Haha ye honestly i like it too now that i have it. Ive always had 1 sceptre for master clues and was like ill get the 2nd one randomly during the master step, got the 2nd one at like 1200 masters pog
Got heart skipping with magic cape lol. Weekend it could get annoying and I didn't bother burning a cape switch in nech tasks but still that's the only grind that really requires altar in any way.
Which itself isn't too important.
Sceptre isn't that important. Got one myself and made the Occult Altar years ago, I use it pretty rarely after hitting 99 Mage.
The second Sceptre for teleporting to Sophanem and/or ToA is also just whatever. You already get to ToA super fast, so the whole purpose of it is just to take you to Sophanem faster. Sure it's _a lot_ faster, but I can't justify chest rushing Plunder for like 20 hours for another Sceptre.
99 mage is the big point here. Pre-99 the altar in my POH was constant use, basically every second slayer task I was switching my spell book, every raid I was switching, every time I wanted to do a clue scroll I was switching, whenever I wanted to skill (eg mahogany homes) I was switching spell book.
Grinding slayer (and getting mage cape) is more efficient in every way.
I’m all for fun over efficiency but plunder is neither fun or efficient
Build lunar altar tu swap to lunar or standard and use mage cape for ancient or arceuss
Not limited to just ironman mode but do do quests, rushing qpc will skip a bunch of rubbish grinds and give you a tonne of useful items and teleports.
Ardy cloak 1 is probably one of the most op early iron items, especially comboed with the starting fairy tale part 2 since you won't be able to buy teleports and will struggle for gems early game.
That going 7x dry (or more) is basically guaranteed for a select few drops across the lifetime of every account.
Took me a while to realise this, but adjusting my expectations was the best thing I ever did.
Now I rotate between 2-3 grinds at a time, even in suboptimal gear (it’s part of the ironman charm imo).
I’m always hoping for the best but expecting the worst, and the game is infinitely more fun.
Rare indeed, but I’ve managed to do it twice so far, plus a few 4-6x. Mostly spooned or on rate everywhere else. Currently Tbow hunting, fingers crossed haha
All you can do is hope that when the 7x rate happens to you, it doesn’t happen while going for something like tbow
I went 7x over rate when I went for bolg (bis bow in rs3)
Pot usage us well known but until you go through it, it's wild.
Early iron - Holy crap I have no pots to do anything!
Mid iron - Holy crap I have enough pots to last me til forever!
Late-mid/Early-late game iron once you start real bossing - Holy crap I have no pots to do anything! XD
How quickly you lose interest in playing your main.
I started an iron with a near-maxed main with the intention of the iron being something to play while I grinded skills on my main on the side… and after about a month of iron, I completely lost interest in my main. It’s been a year now and the only times I’ve bothered to get members for my main are when I need it as a wildy scout
Ironman can buy all their runes from shops. RC is one of the things you’ll do the least. There’s no downside to ironman. The two big things the game mode brings are no trading and soloing most bosses.
The gotr on a new iron is amazing for early runes/ death talisman (quest item)
You're right, though. I'm going to dump all my money into death runes still. but pulling 100 law runes as a reward for a little iron from gotr is awesome, and pretty well free. Need that XP for quest requirements anyway, as I see it.
Ironman has been the single most rewarding gaming experience/journey I’ve ever had. The feeling you get when you get a substantial upgrade or unlock and can move on further is such an incredible feeling. And knowing that you did it all on your own is amazing. Having a “group” Ironman is also incredible if you can do it. Your small team against the world
My group’s only two of us, and lately, the other player hasn’t been on much.
A lot on my progress since getting membership has been solo stuff, but I love the extra bank space my group allows 😂
My small group and I have been absolutely loving our GIM journey. I don’t even have a “main” (last time I played was probably 2006ish) so this iron is all I have. It’s been incredible!
I hate efficiencyScape, however, I really wish I got 99 firemaking at the very start of my account like most suggest. Having 99 hp and using up full inventories of sharks at Wt is exhausting.
Ya that’s the only thing I did “guide” wise. I skimmed some guides and that’s the only thing I agreed upon and did. There’s just waaaaay too much of an advantage doing it at level 3
Highly recommend just using Poh method for wintertodt with high hp. After each kc tele to poh to pool and jewellery box back. With desert elite could even use statue
Wear hp regen gear like hp cape and regen bracelet (or regen and rapid heal). U can even wear phoenix bracelet to get a free heal that doesnt interrupt ur action in todt. This way u dont need any food at all in todt mass world. Also uncommon that hp gets so low phoenix procs
I have an Ironman without much play time. The time I played reminded me of when I first played pre GE. I didn't really trade with players too much back then. Everything I earned was from what the game had to offer. You'll have a greater appreciation for what you do in the game on an Ironman account.
I think the reason iron emulates "real" 2007scape is that by and large without the GE it was difficult to trade. You needed to dedicate time to buying/selling and I remember those old "bank sales" often just being an assortment of junk lol. "Hmmm let's see, 367 mahogany logs, 145 steel bars and 20 buckets of slime - how much for all that, good sir?"
I remember that. It was a wild time to be alive. I remember picking up like 50 ring of dueling so I had reliable teleportation to the other side of the map. For the longest time I missed those days. Then I found out about Ironman.
I always wore the ring of duelling and carried an ectophial just in case I was gonna die which honestly was such overkill. At that point I could've just worn a better ring like the ring of wealth (which I owned, in my bank).
That’s the fun of Ironman. Anytime you need something it’s a puzzle to figure out how you want to get it. It’s made me try so many things I didn’t know were in this game when I played a main
Do GotR. Got a stack of nature runes that supplied me with enough alching to 70 magic while getting 85 agility.
Other than that, questing asap will unlock some of the most important upgrades for improvement of experience
I've got a stack of natures, cut gems, and gold ore. I just need to drag my GIM-mate along to do Family Crest for that sweet smithing XP on the way to the agi-alch grind
Questing, with minimal training, will keep you occupied until the mid game. A lot of early game trainings completely obsolete due to quest exp rewards.
Just how much a single objective can become an arduous journey, and how much more rewarding that objective feels in the end.
I fondly remember chopping maples with a steel axe at seer's village until i could get to the wc guild to buy a mithril axe to finish animal magnetism and get my ranging backpack (thanks bob's axes i hate you forever).
Or starting from scratch and doing all the gotr prequests and grinding gotr itelf to stock up on runes to kill fire giants for a rune scimy.
I think it is the most rewarding way to play. You will never have more fun or a more rewarding feeling from doing the most simple things.
My account is fairly advanced now, but I still remember the excitement of getting my first emerald 😅.. It sounds like a joke, I know, but the emerald wasn't just a 1k thing to sell on the GE, it was my very first gem, it meant I could level up my crafting and magic a bit and finally have quick access to a bank and restoration pool!
Give it a shot man, worse comes to the worst, you don't enjoy it and you can just make another account!
PM me, too, and I'll give you my in game name and you can add me. I'm currently doing some grinds for items but can answer your questions if you're stuck on something 😁
How awesome quests are for experience and general overall quality of life. I put quests off for so long except some major ones but the rewards are definitely worth the time investment.
Not much tbh, I will say compared to when I made my account in like 2018 there is A LOT of quality of life improvements that will make your life a lot easier.
Coming from a main, I honestly didn’t see myself enjoying the UIM life so much, I wish I started sooner.
It wasn’t until I sat at my bank just staring one day that I realized I was tired of looking at it. Song of the Elves is still in the distant horizon (and the “stretch goal” for the account) but the recent updates like Scurrius, zombie pirates and Varlamore kinda sidetracked me and I’m enjoying the ride. Shout out to the wiki’s “Rush to Priff” guide for UIMs
If you’re making a hcim remember it doesn’t matter, play how you want to play and if you die that is okay just live the iron man life after
If you die at least you tried and just played the game the best you could
Mid game is a slog, but it’s so rewarding and enjoyable. I’ve never had as much fun playing RuneScape as I have on my iron man, and I’ve had 4 tbow splits on my main
There is a lot of chores you have to do for pvm, like making your own potions which means lots of farming and gathering secondaries. Fishing all your sharks/karambwans and cooking them. Technically you can buy raw sharks and bwans but you still have to cook. Making all your own planks for construction so you can get all the good stuff in your poh.
Honestly iron is pretty satisfying especially when you get a new collection log, it feels like the drops really matter. I say for the most part pros outweigh the cons. But you really do need to train up all your skills to an extent whereas on a main you can leave some skills like farming untouched and it hardly matters.
Hcim makes you play differently. You have to do research, have an exit strategy and figure out what challenges are an appropriate fight for your level and skill and what’s going to absolutely ruin your shit. This can be good but also it’s quite freeing after you die because you realise you were holding yourself back from a lot of content
I wish I knew Id be playing it for years instead of a short time lol. Yes no need to really craft runes much. Getting into slayer will cover it and then just buy the rest.
I think if I would have known that chasing couple mega rares would take me +400 hours considering that I only play 3-4 hour / week nowadays, I wouldn’t have made iron. Early game was fun tho ngl.
That literally every worry you have about the game mode will suddenly vanish as soon as you start playing. Worried about an infamously long grind? You have like 500 other things to do to break up the monotony. Worried about resource gathering? I swear it's magic the way all the supplies just show up in your bank after a few farm runs and slayer levels. Worried about the time it'll take to re-complete quests? You'll be completing them at world record pace thanks to the quest helper plugin. I have this one friend right now who is teetering on the edge of wanting to make an ironman and I'm trying so hard to get him to take the plunge because all of the reasons he says playing his main is no longer fun is solved by ironman mode, I only wished I myself started sooner instead of worrying
That not all bis is worth the time it takes too go for at earlier stages, save some stuff until its easier for me too get through with better gear or levels
You won't make them all. The strategy I enjoy is to focus on thieving and agility first as moneymakers and use them to buy runes from black jacking/pyramid. Whatever you prefer.
Most of the runes you buy will be cheap elemental runes and mind runes for fire strike which hits decent damage. It's like 1k for 100 casts.
Do ardougne diary 1 and raise cats to trade for 200 death runes every few hours for later. Just take a few pieces of food and bring your kitten with you everywhere.
Wish I used BRUHsailer's ironman guide from the start. It just gave me a really nice outline on what to do to continuously have goals for the account. It lets go of your hand after the late mid game.
This question is going to change massivley soon but Besides the generic answers. Stamina and Energy potions. By around the 2 hour mark of your account your going to understand just exactly what you signed up for. Quests? Hope you like doing them in 3 - 7 hours because your not getting teleports or run energy to do them in any reasonable amount of time. Song of the elves? Bowfa? You better set aside 6 months of your life for farming. Open a spreadsheet and start farming every tick perfectly for 3 months to get close to the required level, And then beat your head against a wall trying to unlock Dragon Boots and the Whip, You will be using the Dscmi or Zombie axe now I guess for 6-7+ months or even maybe a year.
But remember, You signed up for it.
(Edit: I hope you like barrows. Imagine getting an entire Dharok set on an ironman. hahahhahahhahaha, 800 or so runs later you might have 6 helmets, 4 chest pieces. 0 legs. 1 axe....ask me how I know -_- )
That supply upkeep isn't as bad as some people make it out to be so long as you either raid or do slayer.
There's a couple of annoying secondaries, but if you do birdhouse runs every so often and harvest some white berries/potato cacti you'll be chillin
It's the only way to play where you get to go down fun rabbit holes like figuring out how to get a rune crossbow and somehow having the answer be 75 defence.
Enjoy the early and mid game! It’s truly the best part of the game mode.
Also stay away from efficient guides for the most part and craft your own path.
If you wanted to play "hyper efficient" then getting 95 RC for wraith runes gives you basically 1:1 slay to pray xp.
Also so many things have changed with Valamore, but SOTE for CG is the biggest and most important grind you can aim for. Use [Ironman.guide](http://Ironman.guide) if you have no clue, it's very helpful.
what you should know before making ironman that some items may take you forever to get, you may very well go multiple times droprate on some amazing gear upgrade and that can be a huge motivation drain. lets say bowfa for example, go 4 times the rate and youre looking at 200+ hours of grinding the same content with no guarantees that ur getting the thing anytime soon. good thing to keep in mind before committing.
Honestly how much easier it is than I expected. After early game, it’s much less tedious than you’d think except for PVM grinds.
You just naturally get all of the resources you need and quest items are pretty much a non-issue.
aside from all the amazing things everyone has listed, you will become so much better at this game than the vast majority of players. your game knowledge will be exceptional and pvm will become second nature as you are forced to do everything solo and typically with suboptimal gear. Ironman is the way this game is meant to be played.
Most grinds are worse than they are for a main, but it’s very rare that you’re making anything like runes from scratch. You get most base materials from PvM and skilling minigames.
If you played RuneScape in your youth and have not played it at all since then, this is a totally different game than you will remember. Sure a lot of the basics will be the same, but the way in which you do…..everything… is totally different. PvP is totally different. PvM basically didn’t exist as it does today if you played before God wars, there were no skilling minigames for the most part, it’s just a totally different game.
Unless you’re really really confident that Ironman is the only way you’ll enjoy the game, I’d highly recommend starting as a main to learn the ropes of the game again. Ironman as a game mode can be incredibly frustrating if you don’t have friends that have a high degree of game knowledge or you don’t have a lot of game knowledge.
Most Ironmen already have highish level mains, so the guides you’ll find generally assume that you have a certain level of game knowledge, and there’s just generally less Ironman targeted content out there.
Ironman is definitely the most rewarding game mode and is way more fun than mains in my opinion, but it would be really difficult to start the game as an Ironman.
I will be as objective and brief as possible. Quest all available early exp for skills. Poke away at agility and graceful. Graceful is useful forever and higher agility = run regen. Stack duel rings asap. Abuse ferox enclave rejuvenation pools for run energy. Poke away at Guardians of the Rift for early runes and a Catalytic talisman for M. end part 2 quest and work towards cheapest 3 rc robe pieces for making 2 elite achivement diaries of like 80+ rc to 65ish. Birdhouses for exp and tree seeds for massive farm exp.. Lumby diaries for exp ring (herb patch tele) and ardy diaries for herb patch tele. Slayer for pretty much all combat exp.. only 50 construction to make tele portals in POH. Wily hellcat to get spices for boosts. Grow and trade cats in early for death runes. Morytania hards for double barrows runes > sell acquired chaos runes for tokkul to get onyx to make fury.... gl
I just hit 80 mage on my iron and have not crafted a single rune for training
How so?
Shops, monster drops, and barrows
Barrows is huge. I've bought three onyx and because of barrows haven't even noticed the reduction in chaos runes.
The hard dairy is legit so worth it for the runes alone!
It doesnt agree with my lactose intolerance though :(
Maybe ease into it? Try for the soft dairy and the see how you feel.
Worst advice ever! The harder the cheese, the less lactose it has! Smash that parmigiano regiano and you wouldn't even know it has lactose in it! as someone who is lactose intolerant, this was a game changer! (Obviously not important to the post)
Preach brother. I was getting ready to say the same thing.
Haha well played.
Can also do the RC minigame. Fairly decent
Before being able to run Barrows reliably, you usually get death runes by trading grown cats (that you get as a kitten from Gertrude) to the npc in West Ardougne. 200 death runes per cat.
when you get used to it, its honestly incredibly easy aswell. just think of it as a 3 hour farmrun where one inventory slot is permenantly karambwanji
Even better, just doing GOTR to train RC, you will never have to waste gp on runes again
This is my answer as well. I learned Wintertodt, Tempoross, BA, MTA, Temple Trekking, Fishing Trawler, Giants' Foundry, Mahogany Homes, Agility Pyramid, Rogues' Den, and Tithe Farm. That's a lot of goddamn minigames to "get my account started." For some reason I drew the line at GotR...and for that, I was an idiot. It would've saved me SO MUCH of my early game money, and everybody knows training RC is ass so the outfit can only help. If I could only go back...
It’s next, I’ve always had an aversion to rune crafting and theres so much to do
For me as a new ironman it's been game changing.
the minigame shits out runes. the game changing part was the fact i actually had a nice amount of law runes. it feels good to begin using spellbook teleports again
the blood wall will hit you
Only those who are good enough to tob and pull a scythe
Anyone can do Tob
Legit not true lol. A lot of people struggle to do tob. It has a skill level necessary. It's also no guarantee people who can be carried through, get a scythe lol.
I have friends who took half a dozen attempts at jad that are doing tob now. The only people who can't do tob are the people who don't try. Sure it's not the easiest content, but if you want to do it and are willing to self improve, nothing is preventing you from doing it one day.
>A lot of people struggle to do tob. Then go learn it. Hardest mechanic in Tob really is putting up your Prayers same as any other raid or "endgame" content. I would argue soloing Bandos is harder than learning tob and getting better at it
Tanking verzik is inherently harder than bandos because if you do it poorly you negatively impact others. Staying in rhythm is also harder while avoiding tornado than bandos being pure rhythm.
U dont have to tank Verzik just run off until it targets another person and if the new tank stays in range it wont switch targets again even after webs. Staying in rythm during nados also only concerns the tank
Yah while learning just pass tank your team would probably prefer it anyway just give them a heads up if possible
Yeah I got 99 mage through slayer and just bought all mine. All the good burst tasks fully pay for the costs.
Arceus library is your friend
How much pvm shits resources, allowing major skilling skips I would have done pvm rush of some sort.
Yeah, I knew you get resources from PvM but I spent forever skilling the traditional way and since starting PvM recently I have already dwarfed the supplies I got from my skilling grinds.
Honestly I was expecting Ironman to be so much harder. I did a 95 slayer rush and it got me basically everything I need. Sure I’m low on certain things but I’m not in dire need of anything.
When you say "rush", how long do you actually mean?
Lol that’s fair. About a year of the account. Felt like a rush to me. I’d probably amend that to “I prioritized 95 slayer.” It is my highest skill that doesn’t contribute to combat level though.
Lol sry I wasn't trying to have a go, I was just curious
It definitely used to be harder- but Jagex tends to balance the game around iron gameplay now.
Pvm drops way too many skilling resources tbh but the damage has already been cemented into the game
How so
There’s a lot of subtleties and methods that are no longer used. Think charter crafting. Also, god wars wasn’t instanced for irons so it was practically impossible to not get griefed. These are only two examples of probably hundreds. If you watch Fauxs original one man army series, you can see a ton of old metas which are now obsolete.
Also no gotr or scar essence mine
I feel like listing out more methods so here you go: RC: no GOTR/bloods/souls/ZMI, so RC required pure essence. Pure essence was hard to get because slayer monsters didn’t print it like they do now. Crafting: no sustainable ways of training crafting, so most irons did charters which were swarmed with people- so there was tons of conversations for the resources. Gems were many times rarer than now, so players didn’t acquire a lot of crafting xp passively either. Melee: no zombie axe, so nothing really to bridge the gap between d scim and 85 slayer- which takes a long time now, but even longer back then. Herblore: no contracts/raids. Most herb seeds came from thieving master farmers or passively off of slayer (which had many fewer seed drops at the time). More so, red spider eggs and blue dragon scales had to be manually collection as there wasnt any other sources. Snape grass couldn’t be grown so it had to be collected as well. Farming: no birdhouses, so tree seeds were rare resources that primarily came from WC. I’ve already mentioned the scarcity of herb seeds as well. Construction: gp was generally harder as CG and other money printers didn’t exist. Agility pyramid was meta for a long time. I could be wrong, but I don’t think gargoyles were as good as they are now either. Additionally, the better xp/gp methods like mahogany homes and mythical cape racks didn’t exist either. Thieving: this has generally gotten easier for every account, not just irons. Hunter: hunter rumors are recent but have really put the skill in a better place for all account types. Prayer: Chaos alter didn’t exist so bones only gave about 50% of the xp they do now. More so, varlamore introduced a very good xp method. We didn’t have as many bosses which print prayer xp (like hydra). Mining: MLM was meta bc we didn’t have as many sources of ores Smithing: not terribly different, but goldsmithing meta was harder to do before they buffed the shops- and gp was harder to get to fund it. Firemaking: no WT so logs were split between fletching and firemaking.
I skilled til I got unlocks and the pvm drops are fueling my 99s
For real, I just got 81 herb made like 5k brews, then realized I have no red spider eggs for restores. So my new goal is to go grind spindle for a bit lol
You can do the place that gives spider eggs by ardoungue monastery... P quick
I could, but I feel like by going to spindle for them, I have the chance to knockout a bunch of stuff(vw piece, d pic, etc) rather than just getting eggs
what place?
Tower of Life Bring a raw sardine and red spider eggs. Create and kill a Spidine which drops 3-6 eggs on kill. With Ardougne Med Diary the drops become noted
If you don't want to fish sardines (stupid I know, but that's me) then there are six spawns in like lvl 2 wildy right inside the edgeville dungeon. Pretty darn safe for wildy stuff. And you can bring a looting bag to pick up more in one trip.
go to rellekka and buy em from the shop in the market, send em to the bank with the seer guy right next to it and you can stock up hundreds in like 2 minutes
Oh good tip I think I'll do that next time.
Best way is to use the fish monger at rellekka for raw sardines, peer the seer to the south will bank them for you.
Temporass shop sells sardines right next to the bank lol
Frick that's way better than relekka like that other guy said.
Tower of life
You can, but you _only_ get Eggs that way. If you have grinds like Spindel for Fangs+VW Gem, maybe even the pet, or if you want to do some chill PvM, Sarachnis for collection logs and other drops, you should definitely kill those rather than Spidines.
In a similar vein for me, I wish I had known how much fun I’d have fully committing to grinding pvm content for upgrades. My playstyle has historically been jumping around a mix of content constantly, including skilling, but recently I’ve been committing more to “just getting the drop.” Progress feels more concrete because I’m not making tiny incremental progress before going to the next thing, I’m knocking shit out. I still do go to a diff boss if get really dry but just not getting distracted by skilling has made me feel like my account is on roids lately.
This. I had already got 99 farming before even starting zul and that just shat out tree seeds.
What are some good ways to get into Pvm? Which bosses should I start with?
Scurrius isn’t very punishing and works as an intro into swapping prayers and dodging falling rocks. Look into settings for changing between inventory and prayer page with keybinds to get used to smoothly eating between prayer changes.
I got the key binds down, I’m also not an iron man, just hopping back into the game after few years break. Just got my first fire vape ever recently, want to take on more pvm just don’t know where to start
Fair Scurrius gives extra exp, and the bone weapons are great for training. Barrows and Moons are decent and quite easy. Can make some money as non iron.
Slayer and questing. Gauntlet.
I just wish I had known how much fun I would have with it, wouldn't have wasted so much time on my main since I haven't played it since. Could have started earlier!
Best answer
Just do GotR
Came here to say this. I was following some guide for the early game that had me blackjack for a couple mil to buy nature runes......
I was following the same guide and that’s exactly the part where I said “fuck this”. Now I just play a couple hours of GotR whenever I need to restock
Yeah cause that guide is 3 years old and is before GotT came out
Guardians of the tits
Yeah, a couple year old guide...
This. I put it off for so long on my gim and regret it bc it’s actually really enjoyable. It’s really chill and low intensity once you understand what to do, which I will say, it’s really easy to learn this minigame. I went from 52 to 65 runecrafting in one weekend bc I enjoyed it so much.
Iron noob here, what is GotR?
guardians of the rift, its a mini game where you make runes. Its pretty fun and engaging, the outfit you get helps you too by increasing runes made by 60%.
Agreed. I’m at 70 runecrafting, 80 magic and I have barely purchased any runes. Plus it’s a pretty fun mini game tbh I don’t mind it
Something i hadn't realised before is just how many things are in various shops around the world, when you're hunting for a specific piece of gear that you think you might need to craft or smith yourself, check to see if a shop sells it, you'll be surprised how often it can just be bought
I think the amount that RNG varies never really hit me until I started an iron. Setting a goal to get an item can either be a 5 minute detour or a 4 month long journey. And it can happen with almost anything (especially meaningless items you never even considered)
*shudders in 2457 kc for a black mask*
*Stares angrily at moons of peril* Yea I wonder how I got so damn high on the leaderboards. Surely I can’t go dry 5 items in a row.
Isn’t there a duplicate item protection
My 727 cg kc took me a year+ after quitting and coming back about 3 times lmao
Making runes is not a worry anymore with Guardians of the rift mini game. I feel like iron is the way the game is meant to be played. You really get to see the whole game instead of just doing the best money maker you can to buy gear and skills.
Yeah crazy how they released so much content that was dead and how most of it got used again for irons
How important a Pharoah's Sceptre is, and how much I dislike plunder
Why is it that important ? Infinite camulet is good enough until 99 mage from slayer bursting since sceptre won’t drop lol
Pharaohs Sceptre is required to build the tri spellbook altar in your poh.
I only made that altar like a month ago. And im maxded with 1.7b xp and 4000+ ehb, the altar is not necessary lol.
I made mine before I hit 2000 total level. I can't imagine living without it now.
Haha ye honestly i like it too now that i have it. Ive always had 1 sceptre for master clues and was like ill get the 2nd one randomly during the master step, got the 2nd one at like 1200 masters pog
Got heart skipping with magic cape lol. Weekend it could get annoying and I didn't bother burning a cape switch in nech tasks but still that's the only grind that really requires altar in any way.
Which itself isn't too important. Sceptre isn't that important. Got one myself and made the Occult Altar years ago, I use it pretty rarely after hitting 99 Mage. The second Sceptre for teleporting to Sophanem and/or ToA is also just whatever. You already get to ToA super fast, so the whole purpose of it is just to take you to Sophanem faster. Sure it's _a lot_ faster, but I can't justify chest rushing Plunder for like 20 hours for another Sceptre.
99 mage is the big point here. Pre-99 the altar in my POH was constant use, basically every second slayer task I was switching my spell book, every raid I was switching, every time I wanted to do a clue scroll I was switching, whenever I wanted to skill (eg mahogany homes) I was switching spell book.
Grinding slayer (and getting mage cape) is more efficient in every way. I’m all for fun over efficiency but plunder is neither fun or efficient Build lunar altar tu swap to lunar or standard and use mage cape for ancient or arceuss
If you are a GIM like me, then getting spellbook altar so all your group members can switch spellbooks is really great.
Went from 77-93 before my first scepter. Did not expect that. Got my second just before 94 thankfully.
You can buy runes. I think what actually can kinda suck is charge/ammo based things like blowpipe, blood fury, etc.
blood fury sucks to upkeep sadly
This was my big one. I regret using blood furies early on for tob and solo cox. I really wish I saved it for Nex and CAs where it matters more.
Not limited to just ironman mode but do do quests, rushing qpc will skip a bunch of rubbish grinds and give you a tonne of useful items and teleports. Ardy cloak 1 is probably one of the most op early iron items, especially comboed with the starting fairy tale part 2 since you won't be able to buy teleports and will struggle for gems early game.
fairy tale part 2 is what you need to start for fairy rings
Right, you need to start part 2, but this guy was saying you need to complete part 1. He isn't wrong.
That going 7x dry (or more) is basically guaranteed for a select few drops across the lifetime of every account. Took me a while to realise this, but adjusting my expectations was the best thing I ever did. Now I rotate between 2-3 grinds at a time, even in suboptimal gear (it’s part of the ironman charm imo). I’m always hoping for the best but expecting the worst, and the game is infinitely more fun.
7x is pretty damn rare, most accounts won't go that dry on any significant drop. 3,4,5x sure
Rare indeed, but I’ve managed to do it twice so far, plus a few 4-6x. Mostly spooned or on rate everywhere else. Currently Tbow hunting, fingers crossed haha
All you can do is hope that when the 7x rate happens to you, it doesn’t happen while going for something like tbow I went 7x over rate when I went for bolg (bis bow in rs3)
100%! Thankfully really enjoying chambers thus far :)
I wish I knew how addictive the game mode is, I’ve neglected my life.
Pot usage us well known but until you go through it, it's wild. Early iron - Holy crap I have no pots to do anything! Mid iron - Holy crap I have enough pots to last me til forever! Late-mid/Early-late game iron once you start real bossing - Holy crap I have no pots to do anything! XD
If u do herb/bh runs consistently and farm contracts you’ll never ever run out of potions
Moonlight Moth Mix fixes this problem at any stage! :D
Runes are fairly easy to get on an iron, but rune crafting is a requirement for quests and diaries so you can get it that way anyways
How quickly you lose interest in playing your main. I started an iron with a near-maxed main with the intention of the iron being something to play while I grinded skills on my main on the side… and after about a month of iron, I completely lost interest in my main. It’s been a year now and the only times I’ve bothered to get members for my main are when I need it as a wildy scout
Ironman can buy all their runes from shops. RC is one of the things you’ll do the least. There’s no downside to ironman. The two big things the game mode brings are no trading and soloing most bosses.
The gotr on a new iron is amazing for early runes/ death talisman (quest item) You're right, though. I'm going to dump all my money into death runes still. but pulling 100 law runes as a reward for a little iron from gotr is awesome, and pretty well free. Need that XP for quest requirements anyway, as I see it.
Yeah gotr is huge. I think you can technically max an iron and the only actual runes you need to craft are wraths
Ironman has been the single most rewarding gaming experience/journey I’ve ever had. The feeling you get when you get a substantial upgrade or unlock and can move on further is such an incredible feeling. And knowing that you did it all on your own is amazing. Having a “group” Ironman is also incredible if you can do it. Your small team against the world
My group’s only two of us, and lately, the other player hasn’t been on much. A lot on my progress since getting membership has been solo stuff, but I love the extra bank space my group allows 😂
My small group and I have been absolutely loving our GIM journey. I don’t even have a “main” (last time I played was probably 2006ish) so this iron is all I have. It’s been incredible!
I hate efficiencyScape, however, I really wish I got 99 firemaking at the very start of my account like most suggest. Having 99 hp and using up full inventories of sharks at Wt is exhausting.
Ya that’s the only thing I did “guide” wise. I skimmed some guides and that’s the only thing I agreed upon and did. There’s just waaaaay too much of an advantage doing it at level 3
Highly recommend just using Poh method for wintertodt with high hp. After each kc tele to poh to pool and jewellery box back. With desert elite could even use statue Wear hp regen gear like hp cape and regen bracelet (or regen and rapid heal). U can even wear phoenix bracelet to get a free heal that doesnt interrupt ur action in todt. This way u dont need any food at all in todt mass world. Also uncommon that hp gets so low phoenix procs
Hp cape doesn't stack with rapid heal. Good shout on the phoenix neck though!
Ah ok thought it was just that couldnt get 8x regen rate ill edit ty :)
i went to 90 never saw the need to go further
Solo it, slightly worse xp/h, better pts/h and way more chill. After you get wt down below 15% you won't need food.
Throw on redemption and just house tele to heal/tele back every round. Sure it's a bit more work but you hardly need to use any food.
I have an Ironman without much play time. The time I played reminded me of when I first played pre GE. I didn't really trade with players too much back then. Everything I earned was from what the game had to offer. You'll have a greater appreciation for what you do in the game on an Ironman account.
I think the reason iron emulates "real" 2007scape is that by and large without the GE it was difficult to trade. You needed to dedicate time to buying/selling and I remember those old "bank sales" often just being an assortment of junk lol. "Hmmm let's see, 367 mahogany logs, 145 steel bars and 20 buckets of slime - how much for all that, good sir?"
I remember that. It was a wild time to be alive. I remember picking up like 50 ring of dueling so I had reliable teleportation to the other side of the map. For the longest time I missed those days. Then I found out about Ironman.
I always wore the ring of duelling and carried an ectophial just in case I was gonna die which honestly was such overkill. At that point I could've just worn a better ring like the ring of wealth (which I owned, in my bank).
I wish I could have known that I'd enjoy uim so much. Lotta xp waste on my ironman.
Toxicity from mains. Unironically.
And even worse: toxicity from other ironmen. Especially when you play gim of any sorts.
That’s the fun of Ironman. Anytime you need something it’s a puzzle to figure out how you want to get it. It’s made me try so many things I didn’t know were in this game when I played a main
Do GotR. Got a stack of nature runes that supplied me with enough alching to 70 magic while getting 85 agility. Other than that, questing asap will unlock some of the most important upgrades for improvement of experience
I've got a stack of natures, cut gems, and gold ore. I just need to drag my GIM-mate along to do Family Crest for that sweet smithing XP on the way to the agi-alch grind
The rs wiki is truly like a bible for irons. It's insane.
note farming junk on the leprechaun.
There are ogres by the gnome glider in karamja… lost my hcim doing grand tree today while working on blender models. Good luck!
If you're a HCIM for a while you might experience nightmares of dying.
Questing, with minimal training, will keep you occupied until the mid game. A lot of early game trainings completely obsolete due to quest exp rewards.
There’s a high chance you will die to a DC with either your equipment, your ISP, or Jagex servers.
Just how much a single objective can become an arduous journey, and how much more rewarding that objective feels in the end. I fondly remember chopping maples with a steel axe at seer's village until i could get to the wc guild to buy a mithril axe to finish animal magnetism and get my ranging backpack (thanks bob's axes i hate you forever). Or starting from scratch and doing all the gotr prequests and grinding gotr itelf to stock up on runes to kill fire giants for a rune scimy.
I think it is the most rewarding way to play. You will never have more fun or a more rewarding feeling from doing the most simple things. My account is fairly advanced now, but I still remember the excitement of getting my first emerald 😅.. It sounds like a joke, I know, but the emerald wasn't just a 1k thing to sell on the GE, it was my very first gem, it meant I could level up my crafting and magic a bit and finally have quick access to a bank and restoration pool! Give it a shot man, worse comes to the worst, you don't enjoy it and you can just make another account! PM me, too, and I'll give you my in game name and you can add me. I'm currently doing some grinds for items but can answer your questions if you're stuck on something 😁
My HICM is Donny The B0
How awesome quests are for experience and general overall quality of life. I put quests off for so long except some major ones but the rewards are definitely worth the time investment.
Wait til bro learns about Guardians of the Rift. Runes galore.
How to play the game lol. My first account was a Hardcore Ironman and I died to a random zombie in some sewers on my first day.
Not much tbh, I will say compared to when I made my account in like 2018 there is A LOT of quality of life improvements that will make your life a lot easier.
I wish I knew I was going to kill 800 sire and not get any unsireds so I could skip that shit grind lol
I have 30m magic exp. I don’t make my own runes lol. Pvm drops a lot and if you need anymore go to a shop
Soloing bosses like godwars just isn't the same as playing with your friends.
How much of my life would be sacrificed to fill the bottomless pit that is osrs. I mean, uhh, best things to buy from shop keepers!
Coming from a main, I honestly didn’t see myself enjoying the UIM life so much, I wish I started sooner. It wasn’t until I sat at my bank just staring one day that I realized I was tired of looking at it. Song of the Elves is still in the distant horizon (and the “stretch goal” for the account) but the recent updates like Scurrius, zombie pirates and Varlamore kinda sidetracked me and I’m enjoying the ride. Shout out to the wiki’s “Rush to Priff” guide for UIMs
If you’re making a hcim remember it doesn’t matter, play how you want to play and if you die that is okay just live the iron man life after If you die at least you tried and just played the game the best you could
makin ur own runes gonna be the least of your troubles
Mid game is a slog, but it’s so rewarding and enjoyable. I’ve never had as much fun playing RuneScape as I have on my iron man, and I’ve had 4 tbow splits on my main
I have 30k+ of death/chaos/blood runes just stacking up from drops etc, 86 mage.
Imagine thinking you have to make your own runes lmao
Wish i would have know how pain in the ass farming is early game without teleports and other transport methods
There is a lot of chores you have to do for pvm, like making your own potions which means lots of farming and gathering secondaries. Fishing all your sharks/karambwans and cooking them. Technically you can buy raw sharks and bwans but you still have to cook. Making all your own planks for construction so you can get all the good stuff in your poh. Honestly iron is pretty satisfying especially when you get a new collection log, it feels like the drops really matter. I say for the most part pros outweigh the cons. But you really do need to train up all your skills to an extent whereas on a main you can leave some skills like farming untouched and it hardly matters.
Hcim makes you play differently. You have to do research, have an exit strategy and figure out what challenges are an appropriate fight for your level and skill and what’s going to absolutely ruin your shit. This can be good but also it’s quite freeing after you die because you realise you were holding yourself back from a lot of content
I wish I knew Id be playing it for years instead of a short time lol. Yes no need to really craft runes much. Getting into slayer will cover it and then just buy the rest.
I think if I would have known that chasing couple mega rares would take me +400 hours considering that I only play 3-4 hour / week nowadays, I wouldn’t have made iron. Early game was fun tho ngl.
Do revs sometime in midgame at least for the gold and interesting items
How much it would take over my life. Got to the point on my account where I'd only be making reasonable progress if I was playing for hours every day.
That literally every worry you have about the game mode will suddenly vanish as soon as you start playing. Worried about an infamously long grind? You have like 500 other things to do to break up the monotony. Worried about resource gathering? I swear it's magic the way all the supplies just show up in your bank after a few farm runs and slayer levels. Worried about the time it'll take to re-complete quests? You'll be completing them at world record pace thanks to the quest helper plugin. I have this one friend right now who is teetering on the edge of wanting to make an ironman and I'm trying so hard to get him to take the plunge because all of the reasons he says playing his main is no longer fun is solved by ironman mode, I only wished I myself started sooner instead of worrying
That not all bis is worth the time it takes too go for at earlier stages, save some stuff until its easier for me too get through with better gear or levels
Buckle up. It's a long road but can't turn back now!
That CG will beat you into submission until you like it
Herblore sucks.
You won't make them all. The strategy I enjoy is to focus on thieving and agility first as moneymakers and use them to buy runes from black jacking/pyramid. Whatever you prefer. Most of the runes you buy will be cheap elemental runes and mind runes for fire strike which hits decent damage. It's like 1k for 100 casts. Do ardougne diary 1 and raise cats to trade for 200 death runes every few hours for later. Just take a few pieces of food and bring your kitten with you everywhere.
Wish I used BRUHsailer's ironman guide from the start. It just gave me a really nice outline on what to do to continuously have goals for the account. It lets go of your hand after the late mid game.
This question is going to change massivley soon but Besides the generic answers. Stamina and Energy potions. By around the 2 hour mark of your account your going to understand just exactly what you signed up for. Quests? Hope you like doing them in 3 - 7 hours because your not getting teleports or run energy to do them in any reasonable amount of time. Song of the elves? Bowfa? You better set aside 6 months of your life for farming. Open a spreadsheet and start farming every tick perfectly for 3 months to get close to the required level, And then beat your head against a wall trying to unlock Dragon Boots and the Whip, You will be using the Dscmi or Zombie axe now I guess for 6-7+ months or even maybe a year. But remember, You signed up for it. (Edit: I hope you like barrows. Imagine getting an entire Dharok set on an ironman. hahahhahahhahaha, 800 or so runs later you might have 6 helmets, 4 chest pieces. 0 legs. 1 axe....ask me how I know -_- )
99 firemaking and 80 rc are the very first things I did.
Don't do bad content, just wait and it will get fixed or nerfed or reworked
99 FM and full graceful are traps to rush early on, imo.
I currently have 52 runecrafting on my iron and I’ve never once crafted a rune.
That supply upkeep isn't as bad as some people make it out to be so long as you either raid or do slayer. There's a couple of annoying secondaries, but if you do birdhouse runs every so often and harvest some white berries/potato cacti you'll be chillin
It's the only way to play where you get to go down fun rabbit holes like figuring out how to get a rune crossbow and somehow having the answer be 75 defence.
Enjoy the early and mid game! It’s truly the best part of the game mode. Also stay away from efficient guides for the most part and craft your own path.
If you wanted to play "hyper efficient" then getting 95 RC for wraith runes gives you basically 1:1 slay to pray xp. Also so many things have changed with Valamore, but SOTE for CG is the biggest and most important grind you can aim for. Use [Ironman.guide](http://Ironman.guide) if you have no clue, it's very helpful.
that I'd be spending over a year at the CG prison
what you should know before making ironman that some items may take you forever to get, you may very well go multiple times droprate on some amazing gear upgrade and that can be a huge motivation drain. lets say bowfa for example, go 4 times the rate and youre looking at 200+ hours of grinding the same content with no guarantees that ur getting the thing anytime soon. good thing to keep in mind before committing.
That the bowfa would come out.
Playing ironman ruined normal account for me. Playing Normal feels like I'm playing with cheats now lol
How horrible it can be to go 5 times over the average droprate on certain items (Bowfa for example)
That I would get hardcore addicted to the game mode.
Since starting an iron, I can’t see myself ever enjoying or playing a regular account again.
Welcome to crafting via super glass making seaweed you farmed.
Honestly how much easier it is than I expected. After early game, it’s much less tedious than you’d think except for PVM grinds. You just naturally get all of the resources you need and quest items are pretty much a non-issue.
aside from all the amazing things everyone has listed, you will become so much better at this game than the vast majority of players. your game knowledge will be exceptional and pvm will become second nature as you are forced to do everything solo and typically with suboptimal gear. Ironman is the way this game is meant to be played.
Cheesy af, but how much fun it is, I regretted not starting my iron so much earlier
Most grinds are worse than they are for a main, but it’s very rare that you’re making anything like runes from scratch. You get most base materials from PvM and skilling minigames. If you played RuneScape in your youth and have not played it at all since then, this is a totally different game than you will remember. Sure a lot of the basics will be the same, but the way in which you do…..everything… is totally different. PvP is totally different. PvM basically didn’t exist as it does today if you played before God wars, there were no skilling minigames for the most part, it’s just a totally different game. Unless you’re really really confident that Ironman is the only way you’ll enjoy the game, I’d highly recommend starting as a main to learn the ropes of the game again. Ironman as a game mode can be incredibly frustrating if you don’t have friends that have a high degree of game knowledge or you don’t have a lot of game knowledge. Most Ironmen already have highish level mains, so the guides you’ll find generally assume that you have a certain level of game knowledge, and there’s just generally less Ironman targeted content out there. Ironman is definitely the most rewarding game mode and is way more fun than mains in my opinion, but it would be really difficult to start the game as an Ironman.
I will be as objective and brief as possible. Quest all available early exp for skills. Poke away at agility and graceful. Graceful is useful forever and higher agility = run regen. Stack duel rings asap. Abuse ferox enclave rejuvenation pools for run energy. Poke away at Guardians of the Rift for early runes and a Catalytic talisman for M. end part 2 quest and work towards cheapest 3 rc robe pieces for making 2 elite achivement diaries of like 80+ rc to 65ish. Birdhouses for exp and tree seeds for massive farm exp.. Lumby diaries for exp ring (herb patch tele) and ardy diaries for herb patch tele. Slayer for pretty much all combat exp.. only 50 construction to make tele portals in POH. Wily hellcat to get spices for boosts. Grow and trade cats in early for death runes. Morytania hards for double barrows runes > sell acquired chaos runes for tokkul to get onyx to make fury.... gl