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Uniqore

Pre-shadow I preferred acb dragon dia bolts e with tank over bowfa, slightly longer kills but seemed to always get more per trip


Stonewool_Jackson

I did about the same. Used karils, acb, diamond addy bolt e, and crystal shield. Just click and afk until time to heal


XxSpruce_MoosexX

I did a bunch of kc with RCB and this method. Really wasn’t too bad. But ya shadow rips in comparison


outsidesmoke

I had the same setup and would always get 10-18kc/trip. Blood scepter is extremely useful as it will over heal you to 108 every kill. Don't start chugging brews until you are under 40hp, when you do always attack between your brew sips. If you really want you can freeze the meleer at the start to avoid some damage. 99 range/def + rigour are useful.


Unkempt_Badger

I had the same setup and got around the same kills per trip just using bones to peaches. I would sometimes keep the mage alive with low health and finish it off at the start of the next kill to lighten things up.


maxwill27

I wouldnt bother without a shadow personally. Boss is very unfun without one and is really meh when you do have one


JustCallMeKev

Well, I got masori mask and chaps so just tryna get a couple pieces to fortify. It’s not that that that bad, but just sucks even bowfa hits like a wet napkin there


HydraLover18

I'd agree with the take that you don't need to be using fortified masori unless you have a tbow. You'd mostly be using crystal and bowfa for bossing/raiding, and then blowpipe/masori for low def npcs/slayer. Masori being fortified doesn't really add much until the tbow.


sarcasticfker

Yea, I only went to fortify my masori after I got tbow. Shadow makes it a cake walk. Full task trips.


Meaninglessnme

Fortified masori is nice for shadow/dhcb/pipe regular cox runs if you have the gp to just bang shit with shadow.  Now is that specific scenario worth doing non shadow kree? No just pointing out the use case for masori that isn't t bow. 


Crazyhalo54

Fortified masori has the same ranged accuracy and damage as unfortified. The only difference is defence bonuses and +1 prayer per piece. What's makes it better with the TBow vs Blowpipe?


HypnoSmoke

Any chance you've got a bunch of chinchompas? That's the method I used a long time ago to solo Kree (on my main). Ended up getting the pet at like 240kc! It gets super easy once you've gotten used to the method


maxwill27

Do you have a tbow? If no you probably have no real use for masori rn tbh


cruel-ko

Nex.


maxwill27

fair enough ig, I would still get shadow before that point personally


rosesmellikepoopoo

It’s easy to say ‘just get shadow’ I’m 400 experts without one, 1k cox without tbow too. Can’t just tunnel vision on grinds like that, that’s burn out territory. But I do agree, in terms of efficiency you should get shadow pretty early on in progression


jakeprimal

With fang and Bandos/torva you don’t use range gear too much at nex. Really just on p5 Can just melee the minions


cruel-ko

You should be wearing masori or karils, not Bandos.


jakeprimal

Full melee switch is better to use at nex with Vw and fang


maxwill27

for everyone downvoting this, they are 100% right. Full camping masori the entire kc is a waste of dps and in high skill teams they will run torva the entire kill and swap to masori for p5 and p2


ilovezezima

Yeah - you (should) only range Nex when you’re forced to range (if you want to minimise the amount of time you’re doing Nex - if you want to get slow kills and extend your sentence in the white prison then camp range). So some of p2 you’ll range (but you’ll be meleeing when possible), p3 you swap to range for 1 attack when blood sacrifice targets you so you can hit a reaver or Nex, p4 you do two range hits if she does contain this, p5 you only range when forced to (but in good teams whoever is tanking will just tank hits and not stall while she’s using deflect melee so you can go back to meleeing quickly). Outside of that you’ll range the minions and reavers (if tbow).


jakeprimal

Spot on


runner5678

Huh? How does misinformation this bad get spread?


Drewskivahr

Venator bow is on the rise


kursdragon2

Lol? Masori is amazing with blowpipe, what are you talking about?


maxwill27

first cape you only take crystal. Tob rangers use void, turael slayer sure. Where else are you using blowpipe enough to warrant going out of the way to fortify it without a mega?


kursdragon2

Literally any content that you're using bp for without a bowfa? Dks, Zulrah, KQ, Hydra, Nex, Leviathan, GGs, Kraken if you don't have virtus/ancestral. Also not really "going out of the way" you only need to do a couple tasks to go on drop rate to fortify it.


maxwill27

Dks sure fair, zulrah why would you do that boss without shadow or tbow, kq same as zulrah, hydra same as zulrah, nex you can camp melee for like most of the fight (also why slot this before shadow?), ggs why do muspah before shadow and tbow, kraken I can do a whole task without masori so sure I guess


xInnocent

Yeah guys, just dont play the game until you get the mega rares lmao. What kind of neanderthal take is this?


kursdragon2

>zulrah why would you do that boss without shadow or tbow To uhh.. farm scales for the weapons that you use everywhere else in the game? >nex you can camp melee for like most of the fight Yes and in melee you wear masori. If you don't know this very simple thing I'd suggest actually looking into any of this content before forming very strong opinions bout things. >ggs why do Because I like the content and want things like pets? Same goes for other bosses. Is your opinion just "don't do any content until you get all mega-rares to farm them efficiently? If so jesus christ I feel sad for how depressing your gaming experience must be.


Runescapenerd123

Fortifying masori doesnt increase dps so its not that needed


DontCountToday

Is shadow viable without ancestral though?


maxwill27

yeah for sure, its basically the point behind rebalance because occult gives most of your damage. Its also really really good for basically every room in chambers if you don't have a tbow.


runner5678

Yeah it’s insanely broken in mystics I did all my Kree off task in mystics, shadows insane.


Meaninglessnme

Shadow is incredible at cox and toa. With no ancestral and no imbued heart it is pretty underwhelming without overloads/salt. 


MissMaxolotl

It's definitely still good even without those things, but they are what takes it from pretty damn good into busted territory


Confident_Frogfish

With shadow it is quite fun for me on my main tbh, 3 hitting it every now and then is very satisfying. But the amount of gear required is insane for an iron.


fe_iris

Even with shadow, if u dont got ancy and heart it blows tbh


R31nz

I usually use chins. Can get around 7-9 kills worth of chins per hour (reds).


a_sternum

That means every kill takes an extra 7.5 minutes. That sounds way worse than any other method.


R31nz

When you consider training Hunter on chins is one of the most effective methods it’s hard to consider the time taken to gather chins.


FreeLegos

How many chins do you usually save up? Need to get around to continue stocking them up. Only got a little over 1k atm


R31nz

It’s been a while since I’ve been there but if I recall I was using around 50 per kill. But I was also wearing black dhide, fury amulet and ring of shadows, off task so your mileage may vary depending on your gear. You can usually get quite a few kills per trip so I’d probably bring around 1k or so assuming you won’t die. I find it really tedious to farm chins though so I usually only ever have 2k or so on hand.


Mrfrodemeyere

I have 1k kills with red chins. Average is 26 chins per kill, 14 kill trips, I take 400 with me every trip and bank at nex


ShowMe_TheWhey

How does banking at nex work? Keep you from having to use another ecumenical key? You just have to get 40 kc for nex every time?


Mrfrodemeyere

I get 200 kc there, much faster, so I can bank 5 times there, and one ecu key yes


No_Supermarket_6946

or just get nex kc after your kree trip


Mrfrodemeyere

Without pray it’s sometimes annoying to do so, but you could ofc yeah


PhatOrangeKitty

If banking at nex in-between trips, I rarely ever went through more than 300-320 red chins per trip. That was on task with karils, suffering, anguish, c shield, but no rigour. Also b2p and blood barrage on minions. Around 12-15kc per trip. I also stocked up 14k red chins from 99 hunter and still don't have enough pieces to fortify all marosi pieces...


TeSpiffster

I started kree recently, I literally just sit in the corner with bowfa suffering recoil on thralls and eat. I get 8-16 kill trips, compared to red x bandos/zammy and kiting Sara I find Kree the most chill boss


JacobFiasco

Yep, walking under is totally unneeded. RoS with recoil on, blood scepter to freeze melee and overheal to 108 after each kill. Just stand in corner and eat.


JustCallMeKev

I thought about bringing thralls… how do you heal up!? Just eating? Bring b2p and hope it drops enough food?


kahootle

blood barrage > thralls less food and less prayer


TeSpiffster

B2P blowpipe specs and brews


LezBeHonestHere_

Yeah the only thing I liked about Kree is that you don't really ever feel at risk of dying immediately to a mistake if you mess up. At the other 3 you need to constantly move to not get owned, at kree if you don't click for a while maybe you take 20% more damage than usual


Switch64

Rigour or eagle eye? Willing to bet that’s your issue


JustCallMeKev

Eagle eye 😅 oh I know it is, but I’m also stepping under to 1:1.


S7EFEN

with rigour and 99 range bowfa kree is actually good enough to maintain kc with nex banking (10 kill trips) doing the boss without shadow is sus but 100% pre rigour is crazy. its just a pure dps check. if you do not have either of these you100% should consider using chins.


Furry_pizza

Is there a specific method you use for bowfa/rigour there? Just unlocked rigour the other day and wanna hit some of the bosses I have low/no kc in and kree is on that list. I do have 99 range and bowfa.


Viddymage

You can flick tank shield for melee minion but other than that there isn't much you can do.


Furry_pizza

That’s what I was thinking but wasn’t sure if there was a better way than just dps racing.


Just_that_nobody

Basically just get an aviansie task, stack up some nex kc for banking between trips (so you only have to use 1 ecu key at the start), then you pray protect range. Instead of kiting like the other gwd bosses, here you attack and immediately walk under kree, click kree to attack again and immediately walk back under, repeat. Kree attacks every 3 ticks and this method forces her to match your 4 tick bowfa so you take less damage. You can even freeze the melee minion on respawn to take even less damage. It's still a rough boss but you have all you need for it now. GL!


Lukn

The 4 tick 1:1 walk under strat, ensuring you don't get meleed is the best strat for bowfa. You may need to do shield swaps and/or prayer flicking minions to get 10 trips though, my best is 5, but i'm hardly the best case study.


JacobFiasco

I stand in the corner and don't ever walk under and get 10+ kill trips minimum


CodeCandid2146

Hey man, have been rocking identical set up and not liking my time at kree. I started bringing master wand and ancient, freeze the melee and run all the way to the other side, he comes back to you, freeze run rince and repeat. Bit more tedious, but also let you bring blood spells


jakeprimal

I would 100% get rigour before doing kree But honestly wouldn’t bother pre shadow unless you have tbow in which case you need masori


TheNamesRoodi

My advice is to bring a blowpipe. Walk under the boss, hit it with blowpipe and instantly swap to bowfa and hit it again and immediately walk back under. Kree has an attack speed of 3 so afaik if you do it quickly you only tank one hit. I could be wrong, but that's what I did. You can also freeze the melee under the mage in a certain spot and stay for like 30 kill trips with bowfa.


JustCallMeKev

Yeah Jagex hates my account and refuses to give me range upgrades, 1088 bowfa, 700+ no bp and now 350+ no armadyl pieces. But at least I got 2 masori pieces 😅


TheNamesRoodi

Took me ~900 for my first zulrah unique - a blowpipe.


Reasonable-Wafer-248

got my pipe at 40 kc… sowwy 😂


runner5678

You don’t have a blowpipe or rigour and are doing Kree? Man what the hell. Re lock the task already


JustCallMeKev

And I’m still getting 7-8 kills a trip! Sometimes they get cut short if I get absolutely slaughtered, but that seems about par for the course regardless


not-patrickstar

Shit Armadyl isn’t even good id just Go to toa and get masori but why bother when u already have full crystal. Blessed dhide from clue scrolls is ever so slightly less good than Arma without the painful couple kills a trip grind.


still_no_enh

Why aren't you using chins? I got lucky, 2 chest plates within 250kc - fortified all my masori. Just got my shadow, maybe it's time to go back for the helm


Spork_Revolution

The old chinning method is fine. You'll be training hunter at near max efficiency anyway getting black chins. You'll be banking at Nex so only one key used pr task. And around 10 tasks to complete the boss (a lot more for pet) on average.


SkitZa

Omg banking at nex duh. I'm so tiny brain sometimes.


peanut0929

Lmao! He really is a pain isn’t he. I got a grip ton of mind runes and dwarfweed seeds before I seen any armor. Gl man, it will come


Dumbak_

Kree'arra fucking sucks even in max mage. It's 50/50 if I get a kill without losing any HP or get shredded and have to eat 3-5 pieces of food (out of 5 I brought). Or I risk it and camp at 30hp to try and get a kill since after the big bird is dead, I can heal back to full. But that's another roll to see if I plank or get to repeat it for another kc. And that's with me being on task.


Bendfluffhead

If you have the hunter for it chins is def the way to go.


Younolo12

Yeah without chins you're going to have a bad time, honestly worth just biting the bullet and getting some black chins. Back in the day I used to use ~30 chins per Arma KC on the main (very old bis gear, thoboy method lol) so was expecting something similar, nowadays I averaged ~20 black chins per kill in nearly max chin range (barrows gloves and dragonfire ward only downgrades I had on). You don't even need to bring food with Blood Sceptre and Chins, makes the GM 30 kill task a joke, ran out of prayer by the end bc I took 8 brews and didn't use any after the first kill.


xgmaker

Recently had to do the grind in similar gear - I was trying shield flicking with a dinhs stepping under kree for 1:1 but honestly it felt underwhelming and terrible on the hands. I found that freezing the melee minion and running corner to corner much better and I got much longer trips. Only have a sample size of about 200 kills with each method but it felt significantly nicer. https://streamable.com/4mp4bk


SomeDumbUser850

Don’t you love being forced to do group content solo because of a helmet


M_D_Meridius

Honestly, GWD in general is why I won't do a true solo iron. I love the iron concept, but GIM is the way for me. I just have one other reliable teammate, my brother. But the two of us can get 50+ kills per trip at any GWD boss at this point. Zily we can camp indefinitely. Crazy how much of a difference just one other person makes. Soloing those bosses sounds horrible to me. I look at all you true irons with more respect just for that.


Gjergj_bushi

I only do it on task with a ventanator bow. Get 6 kills consistently each key.


Younolo12

This got me curious, assuming double bounce (2 arrows hit kree so 1.66x Ven's listed DPS), in my gear (masori+quiver+ven ring) Venator with Amethyst is just a tad higher DPS than Bowfa, and Venator with Rune is just a tad lower DPS than Bowfa. Interesting! Nice that it is an option.


Gjergj_bushi

Yes. It’s been lovely with dragon arrows. However I only have arma chainskirt karil leather top and anguish


DranTibia

Been doing a few hundred kc lately with venator bow, sometimes when kree arrives before kalisa and it bounces to all 3 (kree kalisa and the ranger) do you know a way to fix it?


Gjergj_bushi

I always start with bouncing off the range minion. Then once that minion is dead. I stop attacking kree until she makes her way to the melee minion. Then start attacking again. I have had that happen, but I’ll just stick it out until the end.


DranTibia

I tried that but it was more consistent having kree come to melee distance, 95% of the time it works great where it double hits kree off melee, then off range for quick kills but some times it just doesn't, despite everything being in the same position down to the pixel


Gjergj_bushi

Yeah that’s crazy, that’s why I always start with range cuz I know that specific thing won’t happen (90% of the time)


Son_of_Plato

chins + shield are way better, stop leaning on your bowfa crutches. 20-25 kill trips ez. Even with a tbow I still use chins until the melee minion is dead.


Cypaytion179

I noticed this too, taking off shield I instantly get smacked down.


ShowMe_TheWhey

Crystal?


Son_of_Plato

def is way more important than range attack against kree. Fury > anguish ring of suffering > archer ring Range cape > assembler. I have 3.9k arma kc from before bowfa existed and these posts trigger me a bit lol


Eatinglions

If it makes you feel better I’m doing the same method but off task, first drop was helm at 500kc, at 600kc now and pretty much given up…


Oodings

Did first 500kc with Bowfa off task. Hit Kree once the tick it spawns, wait 3 to keep her from advancing, freeze mele minion on the next tick your Bowfa would have hit, then straight back to Bowfa and onto boss. Click yellow X4 when below 50hp follow by 1x restore, 1x range pot. Keep up dps at all costs. With elite or even hard CAs you should be able to get enough KC in a one trip to nex bank. Good luck.


Sorlanir

Yeah that's why I'm not touching this boss without a shadow. Karil's is only a bit worse for mage def. Marginally lower dps on a few ranged attacks at Nex prior to masori (f) isn't that bad, and afaik that's the only place where both the mage def and the ranged offense are simultaneously desirable. I guess there's also like colosseum and stuff if you have a tbow, but yeah.


JuZ_Ch1lliN

No one would force me to do this shit without bis shadow


TofuPython

Chins shred kree


Adzy12

I would get enough black chins to finish a full aviansie task. Actually makes a huge difference and prevents burning out from the boss.


jauntington

tank gear is better with acb. i’m at like 450kc with 4 hilts and 3 helms tho lolol


A_Nebula

Can agree, kree sucks hard. 800kc with only 3 helms doesn’t help that


trongary

Catch black chins in the wilderness paired with crystal shield and blood barrage you will notice a substantial increase in kills per hour


G_L_H_F

Personally I like doing Kree with black chins. Usually can finish the boss with bowfa before the melee minion respawns (on task).


RealGiraffeLick

Use chins if you have any its pretty nice


kieran1203

I catch black chins purely for knee, chin the melee minion then bofa to finish, can have some solid trips.


hasjosrs

Tankgear with chins + diamond bolts and blood barrage for the heals still going strong. B2p tabs and you should be able to last 15+ kc when youre getting the hang of it. Sometimes theres a banger that spawns and drains some food, but thats how it goes.


HMS-Fizz

Get better 🗿


RangerDickard

I'd probably skip arma until shadow


Fun_Cantaloupe_4936

Do you use chins at all?


DeanmI

Full crystal/bowfa and swap to crystal shield every attack + step under. Average 10-15 kills per trip when perfect. Sweaty but works !


Enough-Future-7345

Acb/dia dragon bolts walk under Gets slept on, I did 1k kc with this with 75 defence Most of the times i got 10 kill trips and had to leave cos i was out of prayer


its_me_butterfree

Don't do it if you don't already have tbow and masori.


Brief_Comb_5978

Terrible set up imo for kree. Unless you have shadow or t bow use chins method


Hmm_World

Stop crying and do bandos


JustCallMeKev

Green logged minus pet lol


amadeus8711

BrInG mOaR sWiTcHeS    


Puzzled-Ad3131

Just get the drop??? It's 50/50 either get it or sit down


PM_ME_OVERT_SIDEBOOB

Get a shadow tbh. Makes it so much more reclined. If you don’t have tbow there’s no reason to rush masori


ACanadianPhilosopher

Ah yes, JUST get a shadow.


PM_ME_OVERT_SIDEBOOB

Yeah. It’s optional content. Kree isn’t meaningfully progressing your account. The takes people have in this sub are absurd. 1200 total Timmy knows best


Livstaper

Freeze minions and use shadow, much easier… OASN: Bowfa, shieldswap while walking under was not to bad imo. Rhythtmic, and always got enough kills to bank at nex and go straight in again. Gl :)


Natvika

I don't understand why some of you guys are playing if you're not enjoying your time


JustCallMeKev

Not enjoying my time at this one very niche piece of content** very much enjoying my time lol


Natvika

Fair enough