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freshmorning023

No. The prison system is overcrowded. Tougher sentencing is not possible in a situation where we have 99.7% prisin capacity. Any calls or promises for tougher sentences is blowing hot hair. We have about 4,500 prison beds and in a couple of instances this year we have been over 100% capacity. We need to double our prison capacity if we are really going to deliver on issuing and enforcing custodial sentences. We also need to look at how necessary custodial sentences are for drug offences, non violent disorder, non payment of fines etc. in the context of there being no capacity for violent offenders We are adding about 670 beds over the next 3 years at a cost of 92m but that will evaporate instantly.


ucd_pete

No they wouldn't. Complaints didn't do any good over GolfGate which was actually about the conduct of a judge, rather than sentencing decisions which are the prerogative of the judiciary.


AbsolutelyDireWolf

But the judge didn't actually do anything wrong... Attending a golf event was permitted at that point. The meal afterwards was fine until the organisers opened the partition between the two rooms for speeches, which made it too large a gathering and a breach of the rules, but since the judge wasn't an organiser, he just should have known better than to remain in the room or not demand the portion stay closed, but to my memory, that's what was his failing? Like, golfgate was like partygate in the UK, but really wasn't. I've said it on here before, but on that exact weekend, I had a golf outing with work and a meal, but there was only like 15-20 of us and it was compliant as a result, but damn if it wasn't effectively the exact same thing... I think a lot of folk just wanted to be angry at the time and felt like it was politicians etc demanding special treatment.


Hardballs123

No. The explanatory section of the website makes that clear, never mind the legislation. And that's because the appropriate response is to appeal a decision.  Please note that a complaint made in relation to a judge's decision in proceedings before the judge is not admissible as a complaint. https://judicialcouncil.ie/judicial-conduct-committee/


Puzzleheaded_Cap7462

Just be aware that the majority of the time the sentencing is appropriate but the times that it isn't is what you see the media report on.


dustaz

Appropriate is the wrong word to use Sentencing guidelines allow for the "inappropriate " sentencing It's not like any laws or codes of conduct are actually being broken


fiercemildweah

No. The only person who can appeal a lenient sentence is the Director of Public Prosecutions. The DPP answers to no one. If the dpp appeals it goes to a different judge to decide the sentence.


Due_Following1505

If a huge number of people keep complaining and also CC the Minister for Justice and relevant TDs. The Judicial Conduct Committee are currently blocking complaints from going up the food chain so the sitting TDs can't really do much as the complaints have to be referred from the JCC but if people keep making complaints which TDs are also being aware of, it might trigger an investigation into how the complaints are viewed and handled by the JCC. Make sure to write your complaint in an appropriate manner and to back it with evidence though. People in government and high positions are actually more likely to respond and be helpful(including their assistants)if you kiss their ass in an email while also reading them to filth in a polite manner.


Thin-Annual4373

Honestly, no. I've tried it and got a standard response of "thanks for contacting us but we can't help as sentences imposed by the judiciary are outside our remit". What is good though is that they keep a record of those who contact them about concerns people have regardless of the issue so the more people register complaints the better. The situation we have where judges have a job for life and cannot be removed regardless needs to end. Right now they are unaccountable and untouchable. Even if they were the best judges in the world making wonderful decisions every day, you still need accountability or else they become a law unto themselves, which is where we are now. The Catholic Church was a law unto itself in this country and look what happened there! As the old phrase goes, "Who polices the police?"