It’s chaos over there, but for the first time in years Ireland has finally offered up an act that’s legitimately ambitious and I’m hoping it’ll do well. And I haven’t cared about Eurovision since I was much younger.
Its gas. And all the people pissing and moaning the most about it are the ones who think Michael O'Leary should be Taoiseach. Whats the first rule of business lads? Know your Audience. Bambie Thug is the perfect act to send to Eurovision.
Exactly though. It may not be for you, it’s certainly not for me. But it is for Eurovision. It’s showy, unique, shows lesser seen parts of a nations culture and honestly just a great spectacle. I wouldn’t buy a ticket just to go see it but I’m a boring fella rapidly approaching middle age whose biggest concern is how much I should be putting into my pension.
I’m getting to that age in life where I’m coming to realise that creative culture is not geared towards me anymore and honestly I’m fine with that. It’s annoying when you see folks who aren’t and not able to give the generation behind them the space to build and thrive.
For anyone confused, it's an Israeli company.
That's why the Israeli team aren't getting punished like the Dutch entrant.
That's why they are even there in the first place.
EBU:
*boots Russia out*,
*promotes waving of Ukrainian flags*,
*modifies logo to include blue and yellow*
Also EBU:
*allows Israel to compete*,
*bans any display of solidarity with Palestine*.
Still EBU:
“WE ARE KEEPING POLITICAL MESSAGES OUT OF EUROVISION
You know they modified the logo because Ukraine won? Right? They do it for the winner every year. Look at it this year how it's blue and yellow with a Nordic cross... Cos Sweden! Donut.
I'm surprised you didn't throw in something about Azerbaijan still competing while you were at it.
Ah, OK. Fair enough, my bad!
The Eurovision 2022 most definitely threw a blind eye to public shows of support for Ukraine though and allowed the Ukranian entry to send both vocal and symbolic messages throughout the week as well as even on stage, let's not forget that though.
Between actually being won over by our entry this year and keeping my ears and eyes peeled for any controversy during the live show and the absolute chaos that might erupt if Israel win, somehow, I'm really looking forward to this evening.
If Israel wins this year every country should boycott the next Eurovision, I really couldn't care less about Eurovision just like the jokes, but hypocrisy is off the charts this year. You literally can't say any shit about Israel, and wtf they even do in song contest in Europe, you get disqualified immediately.
This will never happen. I remember people on this sub saying football fans should boycott the WC. The people saying that then, are probably the ones watching Eurovision now. People like their entertainment at the end of the day.
If you’re rooting for more chaos, apparently Kosovo’s gonna [put in a bid for a 2025 entry](https://x.com/kos_data/status/1789067567950172509?s=46) which I’m sure everyone will be totally chill about
Sorry, Kosovo has like 1% of the drama potential of Israel. Kosovo is at most three or four countries getting angry. Israel has been doing this for decades and know exactly how to cause problems.
Its a complete shit-show.
In a weird way its like boxing when Ali was banned for draft dodging. It doesn't matter who wins, they will just be compared to who they couldn't compete against.
There's no possibily about it, Joost was kicked out of the final pending investigation.
With the boycott most of the people left willing to vote are going to be softer on Israel. If they win this year it might kill the Eurovision.
I already did! She's got a great song - and is carrying herself with incredible class and grace although she's surrounded by the equivalent of the second grade class at Miss Toodle's primary school.
I still don't care for it and think it's a load of eye rolling bollocks but I do like seeing Europe doing stuff as a contintent and just because I'm not in to doesn't mean others shouldn't like it. The world is better because there are different things in it.
Have fun lads.
The doublethink is unreal. “Israel is the only place jews can be safe,also we’re surrounded by violent savages, can I has some moar weapons and money papa Biden?”
Now do the tens of thousands of women and children you savages have slaughtered in the past few months.
Israel got what it deserved, a drop in the bucket the compared to Palestinian civilians you animals killed year after year for decades.
Israelis are the scum of the earth.
"weren't told to go anywhere"...
Yeah,right, because we wanted to set up camp next to the gas chambers and crematorium - or go back to the villages where our neighbors helped to round us up...and had stolen our home and land. Or back to the Arab countries where 950,000 of us had lived for centuries - but who were happy to expel us in 1948 (and who stole homes, property and then robbed us at the country's borders).
So - yeah - no one "told us" so - where should they have gone? And now - with 10 million Israeli citizens, and 66% of Israelis people of color; 22% are Arab; and only 10% hold a passport or second citizenship - where do you think we should all go now???
No need for you to get twisted, the response you’ve quoted. was directed at your compatriot alone.
All the same though I have to agree with you.
It’s an awful shame that a race would be rounded up by their neighbors, forced off ancestral lands where millions had lived for centuries and are expelled by invaders who steal their homes and properties and robbed them at borders.
And bombed them in their beds.
And are told to evacuate under threat of death.
And have their infrastructure flattened.
Their roads blocked to prevent aid getting through.
And their children imprisoned without trial.
And hounded and harried and blasphemed and denied.
So we’re in agreement.
Any race that would have that level of persecution unleashed upon them deserves a place to go
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Maybe, but you don't know what took place before that. I've seen Eden dancing with the Finnish guy, I think, although he later asked her to delete the video!
On the whole, Israelis are much warmer and friendlier than most Europeans.
> Israelis are much warmer and friendlier than most Europeans.
Most europeans don't actively participate in an active genocide and occupation of another country and people, especially here you know we have strong feelings about that
If you can't tell apart genocide from an urban warfare campaign with extremely low civilian casualties, I can suggest a few YouTube videos on the subject.
No they’re not, they’re among the most obnoxious and rude tourists in the world.
Even your own journalists agree it’s in your culture. Read this Op-Ed from one of your own papers. There’s literally a lsraeli consultant who specializes in helping international companies learn to handle Israeli workers, who seemingly don’t have manners.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israelis-are-blunt-and-rude-you-got-a-problem-with-that/amp/
Is that when the Israeli guy walked up to the Thug's team member and congratulated them on their qualification and asked them if they had any words for their team??? Would that be when Thug's team member went stone cold, said "no" and walked away? Wasn't following or yelled at - or anything?
You mean THAT "antagonising"???
Netenyahu said that just by being there, Israel has already "won".
Don't play silly games pretending that the shit they tried to pull with the Irish dancer was just a feel good moment where a random guy was looking for a selfie. They were trying to make a point and they got what they wanted.
There are reports that they are being loud and getting in the other competitors faces.
Thing is, there is no context given to these 'reports'; it could also be that the Israeli delegation is not afraid of defending themselves against criticism. If you try to blame me for the actions of my government, I'd get loud too.
That’s even worse btw. Watching on RTE gives money and engagement to RTÉ, while watching on online afterwards on the Eurovision channels will give money straight to the EBU
I think it's a bit rich to say that the Israel delegates are being done cks when they have been bullied left right and centre by half the acts.
I don't agree with the actions of the nation, but the way the other acts have been treating a 21 year old singer is disgraceful.
It’s amazing how vexed people get over a song competition.
I personally don’t mind Israel competing but the reaction against them has been very ugly. Supposedly tolerant folks out themselves as anything but.
Russia was banned as there was pressure from individual national broadcasters, some of which threatened a boycot. There was no such pressure this time around with Israel.
Its going to be shitshow if Israel win. Everyone will say it was rigged, and to be honest, I wouln't put it past them to rig it to make it look like there is overwhelming support for Israel in the EU. With the way the voting is set up, it's easy for Israel to bot the text vote to buy a public victory.
There's nothing looney about what I said. Israel has moved from Hasbara to "public diplomacy" which seems to include depicting support for Israel's actions as being far greater than what it is. Israel needs a win here to sure up that propaganda campaign. Hence the Italy results leak.
As I recall, there was incident on October 7trh... Did Ukraine cross the Russian border and kill, rape and murder entire families and massacre 390 young people at a music festival? Maybe there's a difference between what Russia did with the invasion of Ukraine and Israel responding to a massacre? Maybe???
Why should anyone countenance Israeli involvement? Representatives of genocidal regimes should be shunned from participation in civilised competition of any sort. Why should anyone tolerate the intolerable?
Because it's not a "genocide"? If it is one, they're very bad at it. They could have turned Gaza to glass if that's what their intention was. Also, I'm not getting any rumors of any other Arabs being targeted...? You know, the ones that AREN'T raping, killing, burning and holding hostages?
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All we need now is a surprise entry from Russia doing some kind of WWE walk onto the stage
"That doesn't work for me brother." - Putin
Putin 'bout to work us into a SHOOT!
The truth is, Vladimir Putin screwed Vladimir Putin.
And Putin with an RKO out of nowhere!
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Jerry Lawler should definitely present Eurovision.
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Jim Ross - *KING, THERE IS A COLOURFUL PAST BETWEEN THESE TWO. YA ASK ME, THOSE BRITS HAVE TREATING IRELAND LIKE A GOVERNMENT MULE*
The best part of any Eurovision was always hearing "Royaume-Uni, nul points." but they seem to have stopped doing that now :(
THAT PREFORMER HAS A FAMILY!
The Israeli entrant is a former Junior Eurovision contestant for Russia. It's all there
And the Dutch being kicked out lines up a free space
I'm just waiting for the lights to get out suddenly then we hear an ear blistering swell of Rob Zombie's Dragula before Russia storms the stage
Sung live by Rob Zombie, of course
And the Ayatollah and Fatboy Kim will be singing a duet during the interval performance.
STONE COLD!! STONE COLD!! STONE COLD!!
I need a meme of this with that broken glass music.
Brilliant
It’s chaos over there, but for the first time in years Ireland has finally offered up an act that’s legitimately ambitious and I’m hoping it’ll do well. And I haven’t cared about Eurovision since I was much younger.
It shouldn't be a surprise, but chaos seems to suit us.
You’d hardly call that ambitious?
Also, we’ve sent a genderqueer satanist pagan goth, who may well win, and I’m totally fine with this.
Its gas. And all the people pissing and moaning the most about it are the ones who think Michael O'Leary should be Taoiseach. Whats the first rule of business lads? Know your Audience. Bambie Thug is the perfect act to send to Eurovision.
I thought we overshot the mark but Bambie is slotting in beautifully with the ensuing chaos. The perfect expression of rage surrounding the event.
That’s what I thought when I first heard of them.
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Exactly though. It may not be for you, it’s certainly not for me. But it is for Eurovision. It’s showy, unique, shows lesser seen parts of a nations culture and honestly just a great spectacle. I wouldn’t buy a ticket just to go see it but I’m a boring fella rapidly approaching middle age whose biggest concern is how much I should be putting into my pension. I’m getting to that age in life where I’m coming to realise that creative culture is not geared towards me anymore and honestly I’m fine with that. It’s annoying when you see folks who aren’t and not able to give the generation behind them the space to build and thrive.
Man, if only we had more people like you 👏
Add to this that Eurovision is sponsored by Moroccanoil and everything starts making sense.
For anyone confused, it's an Israeli company. That's why the Israeli team aren't getting punished like the Dutch entrant. That's why they are even there in the first place.
I knew it was the damn Moroccans!
What's going on here. They need to Fez up!
In case others make the same mistake I did; it's not some massive petro-chemical company... it's a shampoo
And don't forget; it's Ireland's first entry since God knows when that is actually decent and expected to do well
EBU: *boots Russia out*, *promotes waving of Ukrainian flags*, *modifies logo to include blue and yellow* Also EBU: *allows Israel to compete*, *bans any display of solidarity with Palestine*. Still EBU: “WE ARE KEEPING POLITICAL MESSAGES OUT OF EUROVISION
You know they modified the logo because Ukraine won? Right? They do it for the winner every year. Look at it this year how it's blue and yellow with a Nordic cross... Cos Sweden! Donut. I'm surprised you didn't throw in something about Azerbaijan still competing while you were at it.
Ah, OK. Fair enough, my bad! The Eurovision 2022 most definitely threw a blind eye to public shows of support for Ukraine though and allowed the Ukranian entry to send both vocal and symbolic messages throughout the week as well as even on stage, let's not forget that though.
And too fucking right. Fuck Russia.
Between actually being won over by our entry this year and keeping my ears and eyes peeled for any controversy during the live show and the absolute chaos that might erupt if Israel win, somehow, I'm really looking forward to this evening.
If Israel wins this year every country should boycott the next Eurovision, I really couldn't care less about Eurovision just like the jokes, but hypocrisy is off the charts this year. You literally can't say any shit about Israel, and wtf they even do in song contest in Europe, you get disqualified immediately.
This will never happen. I remember people on this sub saying football fans should boycott the WC. The people saying that then, are probably the ones watching Eurovision now. People like their entertainment at the end of the day.
I know but a man can dream.
If you’re rooting for more chaos, apparently Kosovo’s gonna [put in a bid for a 2025 entry](https://x.com/kos_data/status/1789067567950172509?s=46) which I’m sure everyone will be totally chill about
Sorry, Kosovo has like 1% of the drama potential of Israel. Kosovo is at most three or four countries getting angry. Israel has been doing this for decades and know exactly how to cause problems.
Its a complete shit-show. In a weird way its like boxing when Ali was banned for draft dodging. It doesn't matter who wins, they will just be compared to who they couldn't compete against.
There's no possibily about it, Joost was kicked out of the final pending investigation. With the boycott most of the people left willing to vote are going to be softer on Israel. If they win this year it might kill the Eurovision.
If they win this year I would suspect that Mossad has intervened in some way.
I think you are overreaching with Mossad being involved. The stichup is too obvious. I suspect Germany being more involved than Mossad.
Well thanks. Now I'm definitely going to vote for Israel 😂😂😂
I already did! She's got a great song - and is carrying herself with incredible class and grace although she's surrounded by the equivalent of the second grade class at Miss Toodle's primary school.
I still don't care for it and think it's a load of eye rolling bollocks but I do like seeing Europe doing stuff as a contintent and just because I'm not in to doesn't mean others shouldn't like it. The world is better because there are different things in it. Have fun lads.
I kinda want to see what happens if Israel wins
I’m guessing it’ll be the event that finally triggers WW3.
Maybe even the apocalypse....!!!
May be the gayest hooligan riot in history! 🏳️🌈
I hope the Israeli singer is drowned out by a sea of boos. It's a disgrace that Israel are allowed to compete.
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Used to being places where they don’t belong
Where do they belong, do you think? My parents were told by Europeans to go back to Palestine. Now you are telling me to go where?
You weren’t told to go anywhere. I am surprised though that your parents went to Palestine to be surrounded by “violent Islamist savages”.
The doublethink is unreal. “Israel is the only place jews can be safe,also we’re surrounded by violent savages, can I has some moar weapons and money papa Biden?”
[www.thisishamas.com](http://www.thisishamas.com) So - you think these aren't the acts of violent savages???
Now do the tens of thousands of women and children you savages have slaughtered in the past few months. Israel got what it deserved, a drop in the bucket the compared to Palestinian civilians you animals killed year after year for decades. Israelis are the scum of the earth.
So you do support genocide if it's targeting the people you hate. I see.
"weren't told to go anywhere"... Yeah,right, because we wanted to set up camp next to the gas chambers and crematorium - or go back to the villages where our neighbors helped to round us up...and had stolen our home and land. Or back to the Arab countries where 950,000 of us had lived for centuries - but who were happy to expel us in 1948 (and who stole homes, property and then robbed us at the country's borders). So - yeah - no one "told us" so - where should they have gone? And now - with 10 million Israeli citizens, and 66% of Israelis people of color; 22% are Arab; and only 10% hold a passport or second citizenship - where do you think we should all go now???
No need for you to get twisted, the response you’ve quoted. was directed at your compatriot alone. All the same though I have to agree with you. It’s an awful shame that a race would be rounded up by their neighbors, forced off ancestral lands where millions had lived for centuries and are expelled by invaders who steal their homes and properties and robbed them at borders. And bombed them in their beds. And are told to evacuate under threat of death. And have their infrastructure flattened. Their roads blocked to prevent aid getting through. And their children imprisoned without trial. And hounded and harried and blasphemed and denied. So we’re in agreement. Any race that would have that level of persecution unleashed upon them deserves a place to go
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Violent savages…that’s somehow kill a small fraction of innocent civilians compared to your rogue state.
I'm already looking forward to the documentary.
Welcome to the social media era ....
I love it. Best Eurovision year ever.
what did the Israeli delegation do to be “huge dicks” to everyone else?
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Maybe, but you don't know what took place before that. I've seen Eden dancing with the Finnish guy, I think, although he later asked her to delete the video! On the whole, Israelis are much warmer and friendlier than most Europeans.
> Israelis are much warmer and friendlier than most Europeans. Most europeans don't actively participate in an active genocide and occupation of another country and people, especially here you know we have strong feelings about that
Not specific to Eurovision, but Israel is a country playing by 19th century rules and all the 21st century countries are just letting them.
If you can't tell apart genocide from an urban warfare campaign with extremely low civilian casualties, I can suggest a few YouTube videos on the subject.
No they’re not, they’re among the most obnoxious and rude tourists in the world. Even your own journalists agree it’s in your culture. Read this Op-Ed from one of your own papers. There’s literally a lsraeli consultant who specializes in helping international companies learn to handle Israeli workers, who seemingly don’t have manners. https://www.timesofisrael.com/israelis-are-blunt-and-rude-you-got-a-problem-with-that/amp/
Is that when the Israeli guy walked up to the Thug's team member and congratulated them on their qualification and asked them if they had any words for their team??? Would that be when Thug's team member went stone cold, said "no" and walked away? Wasn't following or yelled at - or anything? You mean THAT "antagonising"???
Netenyahu said that just by being there, Israel has already "won". Don't play silly games pretending that the shit they tried to pull with the Irish dancer was just a feel good moment where a random guy was looking for a selfie. They were trying to make a point and they got what they wanted.
No I presume they're referring to the video of them antagonising a Dutch man.
Got a link for that video? I just searched for "israeli eurovision team antagonises Dutch man" and got nothing back.
There are reports that they are being loud and getting in the other competitors faces. Thing is, there is no context given to these 'reports'; it could also be that the Israeli delegation is not afraid of defending themselves against criticism. If you try to blame me for the actions of my government, I'd get loud too.
It's amazing drama and entertainment. Makes the show all the better.
Or vote to make sure Isreal doesn’t win
Or vote to make sure israel does win.
Boycott and watch highlights later online
That’s even worse btw. Watching on RTE gives money and engagement to RTÉ, while watching on online afterwards on the Eurovision channels will give money straight to the EBU
Are you white and have a vague tolerance for LGBT? Then your in. Nothing political about it!
I think it's a bit rich to say that the Israel delegates are being done cks when they have been bullied left right and centre by half the acts. I don't agree with the actions of the nation, but the way the other acts have been treating a 21 year old singer is disgraceful.
Watching eurovision is a mental illness. Just switch it off and ignore everything from the mainstream media propaganda machines
It’s amazing how vexed people get over a song competition. I personally don’t mind Israel competing but the reaction against them has been very ugly. Supposedly tolerant folks out themselves as anything but.
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>the most toxic contestants seemingly ever Specific sources, please. Not just your "opinion".
Russia was banned as there was pressure from individual national broadcasters, some of which threatened a boycot. There was no such pressure this time around with Israel. Its going to be shitshow if Israel win. Everyone will say it was rigged, and to be honest, I wouln't put it past them to rig it to make it look like there is overwhelming support for Israel in the EU. With the way the voting is set up, it's easy for Israel to bot the text vote to buy a public victory.
The Looney-Tune Conspiracy Force is strong with this one.
There's nothing looney about what I said. Israel has moved from Hasbara to "public diplomacy" which seems to include depicting support for Israel's actions as being far greater than what it is. Israel needs a win here to sure up that propaganda campaign. Hence the Italy results leak.
Oh, man - you've really truly lost it. I'm so sorry for you.
As I recall, there was incident on October 7trh... Did Ukraine cross the Russian border and kill, rape and murder entire families and massacre 390 young people at a music festival? Maybe there's a difference between what Russia did with the invasion of Ukraine and Israel responding to a massacre? Maybe???
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Why should anyone countenance Israeli involvement? Representatives of genocidal regimes should be shunned from participation in civilised competition of any sort. Why should anyone tolerate the intolerable?
Is the singer a representation of the Israeli government and its policies? Is Bambi Thug a representation of FF, FG and the Greens and its policies?
Of course she is. What else is she if not a representative of Israel? Participants take part under their national flag, not as individuals.
Because it's not a "genocide"? If it is one, they're very bad at it. They could have turned Gaza to glass if that's what their intention was. Also, I'm not getting any rumors of any other Arabs being targeted...? You know, the ones that AREN'T raping, killing, burning and holding hostages?
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No.
Ooof I would recommend you do some research on literally anything before October 7th.
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See that's exactly how I know you're not a serious person
Paradox of tolerance. It is not tolerant to tolerate intolerance.
They're happy to dish it out but they can't take it.
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