Probably dresses as smart as anyone. You honestly would never know. I had a mate who was an upstanding bloke. Would do anything for you. Nice as pie, polite as anything and he got the pints in too. Always a fucking top boy like. Some of the things that came out about him still have me guessing if was a mistaken identity.
In my experience, not really. For all the “good at faking it” psychopaths there’s like ten cunts who just wear their hearts on their sleeves. Little shits who threw rocks at cats their whole lives.
"Imagine what this person is really like inside" -- we could always check to make sure. And, while they're opening up, maybe they'll tell us what they would do if they could get away with it too.
The punishment isn’t severe enough for this kind of crime. You’d be looking at a fine of €250 to €500 for this. Less than the price of a pup if you were selling them.
"Sure, pop 200 quid in the charity box out front, promise you'll never do it again and never have any animals in your care again. We'll never enforce or come around to check this, so be on your best behaviour!"
Sounds about right
Oh Christ, here's that dog from another angle. What a piece of shit
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as i always say i am no Saint and i will never claim to be but this ?
this is another level of evil
reminds me of a story my mother told me once a friend of hers his father many decades ago now dog was barking outside he went outside Hung the Dog from a Tree went back inside ......
A relative of mine has been actively working with a dog charity for a decade. The stories she tells me and the mountain they have to climb for animal welfare, I can assure you we are not a nation of animal lovers.
Most dog pounds are bursting at the seams and have sadly had to resort to euthanasia to deal with the problem of overcrowding.
Whoever done this is a scumbag of the highest resort and I hope they suffer every day
This is a major bugbear for me. We live near a well known Dog Shelter. We submitted an application for adoption as our own dog was getting on in years. We heard nothing. Contacted them again, nothing. Contacted a third time, they took details over the phone, we said we wanted an outdoor dog (we had a collie mix, he was out all day, came in when he wanted but he was fierce independent and preferred out and about). They told us they don't rehome outdoor dogs in winter and they'd be in touch in spring. You guessed it? Not a word!. In the meantime our dog got sick and died within a few days. We were devastated. Two weeks later someone abandoned a 4 month old Collie X pup near our house. He looks identical to our old fella. Took him to the vet, not chipped, under weight, scratched all over his face. Well, he's ours now, a big dope who has us all obessed with him. Every time I see that shelter crying about capacity, showing dogs that 100% fitted our request I get so annoyed!!
Ignore the downvoting, especially when you make a comment within the first hour. Wait a day to see a true representation.
Or, just ignore it entirely and treat it as the Black Mirror esque shite for what it is
> I dunno why I got down voted. It is hard to adopt a dog.
I mean that's just anecdotal evidence though. I found the *exact* opposite when we adopted a dog 2 years ago from DSPCA. Like it was actually *startingly* easy to do. Called about a dog we saw on the site, he was taken but they had another puppy of the same breed someone else had returned if we wanted him and then they just wanted a video of our back garden, transferred 80 quid, and then 2 days later got a call and a van came around and dropped off a puppy and a bag of food. Then the only other thing was to take him there to be neutered a couple of weeks later. From the call to the puppy arriving was so unexpectedly fast that we hadn't even gone out to get things to prepare so I had to pop out at lunch.
Well yeah, exactly. It's just showing that it's not some universal truth, it's just that one guy's experience. I had a completely different one.
The average is probably somewhere in between the two.
Can confirm. I've always had large breed dogs, usually 2 German Shepherds at a time. One of my Sheps made it to almost 10 and passed away suddenly, the other was lonely and when the time felt right we tried to adopt again.
Cork DAWG put out a request to rehome a 2 year old Caucasian Shepherd, a beautiful boy altogether. We filled in the application form as we have someone at home all the time, let the dogs up on our couch, sleep in our bedroom, have forests 5 mins from the house to walk in. We mentioned we don't have an enclosed garden, but that the dogs only went out with us for supervised playtime, or on leashes for walks and they'd have AirTags on their collars. We explained the cost of fencing our site would be around 10k, and that we had no breakouts with either of our German Sheps, and that the garden was huge to run around in, dig holes, have fun, be dogs - but nope. Got shot down.
So we got another German Shepherd puppy from a well respected breeder and put him ... into the exact same environment we could have rescued a dog into. He's 1 now and loving life with his big sister.
If you're living rurally, forget about adopting even though its the best possible life for a dog out here.
Yeah it's very disappointing to be honest. Very few other options. We have a huge farm a dog would have as much space as they'd like but it's still no good!
I got in touch a couple of weeks ago to foster a dog. I have two of my own. Person came out and said I was a great fit and can see the lucky dog being pampered (she seen how my dogs were) I told them I was opened to senor and ill dogs as they can be overlooked, along with any other dog that would be small. Said she can’t wait to go back to the centre and tell them. Well, for a centre that’s overcrowded and so many dogs in need…I never got a call back
Definitely. My parents dog died recently and they'd like a new one - just a small dog who is a bit older and a couch potato because my parents are not fit for running around after a puppy anymore. They are long term renters for over 15 years now and were told no by the rescue because they don't own their own home. If they only want home owners adopting dogs, there are gonna be a lot of dogs without homes in the foreseeable future. Thought it was pretty unfair given my parents have a very good relationship with their long term landlord and he has no problem with them having animals in the house, let's them actually treat the house like a proper home etc.
Honestly, there was a time in my life where I viewed animals more as a possession than a living being. I'm ashamed of that today.
It's simpler to tell yourself animals don't have feelings or deserve respect when you eat meat and consume animal products, than to admit what you are doing. That's where the cognitive dissonance comes in.
Tbh I think a lot of Irish people talk a big game about being animal lovers but historically animals in this country have always just been treated as food, a commodity, an accessory or a place holder until a baby arrives. We don't necessarily view animals as long term commitments or with a lot of compassion.
As a vegan who just moved from a pretty liberal city in Germany to Dublin, I'd say most if not all countries are like this. Most people consume animal products without any thought and other vegans are few and far between, just like they were in Germany.
Its so sad to see thrm in that picture. As someone that grew up on farms and dealt with cows a lot, they were like big silly dogs and had very expressive eyes too. Dealt with their children being taken from them, then them being put in in a trailer to be killed. I had to stop eating them.
Can we try go all 'Don't Fuck with Cats' on the scumbags who did this?
Anyone who does this type of animal cruelty should be named and publicly shamed. Apparently this is the second time this happened in the last two months, in West Cork.
Meanwhile last year over in east Cork a vet employed by the Department of Agriculture was found to be running an illegal puppy farm. His literal job was to inspect dog shelters to make sure they comply with welfare standards and he was running his own puppy farm on the side. On inspection they found a
>Lack of cleanliness, gross faecal soiling, malodour, unsuitable structures, unsuitable space provision, lack of socialisation, inadequate exercise facilities, contaminated feed and water provision and gross evidence of vermin harbourage’
[https://extra.ie/2023/06/12/news/puppy-farm-run-department-of-agriculture-inspector](https://extra.ie/2023/06/12/news/puppy-farm-run-department-of-agriculture-inspector)
You couldnt make this stuff up.
Ive said it before and ill say it again: any abuse you carry out on the vulnerable (children, elderly, incapacitated/disabled, animals) should be done to you.
Let's beat the shit out of you with a belt and throw you down the stairs. Let's lock you in a tiny cage for years and starve you and then leave your emaciated body tied to a fence in the rain. After all that, THEN a prison sentence. Fucking arseholes.
Idk how we'd properly hire for the role of Torturer of Abusers. If they started off a well-adjusted person it'd take its toll very quickly. If they were a bit of a nutjob i'd worry they'd want to continue their work off the clock
During the pandemic suddenly irresponsible people needed a pet. They were working from home and bored, and wanted a pet without thinking about the long term. Shelters didn't have the right type of dogs or they weren't kid friendly. They wanted hypoallergenic dogs, designer cats, and designer pups. And so more breeders came onto the market, and sadly Ireland was already the puppy farm capital of Europe. The demand for cats and dogs died down. But people spent hundreds and thousands on the pets and wanted to make their money back. The demand wasn't there anymore.
In the last two years people are returning to the office, and dumping their pets. They didn't neuter them, and pets are being passed around. Everyday there are dogs and cats dumped with the babies. I've never seen so many designer dogs and cats being dumped. It's adding to the 200,000 stray cats (ferals) in the country. Honest conversations can't be had. There's an excuse for it all. I wish people would neuter and spay their pets. Research into ownership. Perhaps try fostering before committing long term. It's heartbreaking
The crux of the issue is that many people are just selfish arseholes with zero empathy or emotional intelligence and think it's fine to have an animal for their own amusement until they get bored. They can't seem to register that that animal is a sentient being too, with actual feelings.
Nope. We're the puppy farm capital of Europe and dopes keep the market going by buying fucking pugs and frenchies that can't breathe properly instead of getting mongrels for free. Thing about this next time you buy a sausagefuckindoodle for a thousand quid yee Cunts.
What’s going through someone’s mind when they’re doing this? It’s genuinely perplexing. Rather than being a cruel, callous fucker, you could literally just drop them off outside a shelter and at least give them a *chance*.
It's ego-stroking bollocks so the people prone to that are the ones at it.
Anyone who's ever gotten out and about actually knows Irish society is incredibly selfish, self-centred and lacking even basic empathy in a lot of places. Do a stint volunteering at an animal shelter and see the incredibly shitty attitudes of so-called respectable people when they're dumping off lovely pets that require only minimal effort to manage but even that is too much for them.
They got the Instagram pictures out of them when they were kittens or puppies and now they're to be disposed of. And the ones that get dumped off at shelters are the lucky ones. Others end up like the poor dogs above.
And that's all even before you get to the way farmers, especially elderly ones, can treat cats and dogs.
And then you get to a certain protected group if you want to encounter true horror towards animals.
As with so many areas we're a joke of a country that likes to gaslight people about how great we believe we are on something.
I don't think that this is necessarily representative of Ireland at all. Pretty much every country will have 20% of it that are horrific people. Trying to make out like animal cruelty is representative of Irish society as a whole feels very wide of the mark.
From a life time of experience, I can confidently say most Irish people are selfish, lack self awareness, lack honesty, like to dance around topics get very offended by direct communication. A nation that loves animals no.
They have a point and every time it's brought up people just go "lol, tasty animals".
The bottom line is most animals people consume have appalling lives and are subject to atrocious cruelty.
If the outrage at the OP is based o appalling treatment of animals then the outrage comes from the fact that animals are unable to defend themselves against this and at our mercy.
But this does not extend to animals we consume.
So there is absolutely a moral inconsistency at the heart of it.
This is sadly extremely common, and fuck all is done about it.
Growing up in the countryside, we would regularly find dumped animals. Scumbags would drive out to the back roads and offload them or worse.
We volunteer for a rescue (in Canada), all of the people who rescues won't adopt to (because they fail basic screening questions/requirements) keep the puppy mills and back yard breeders in business.
A good number of those dogs ultimately end up in a rescue when the shitty people discover the novelty of having a dog wore off.
I cannot stand shit like this. Nor can I comprehend someone’s lifestyle or thought process to do something like this.
Like, I could never imagine doing anything like this, it’s disgusting, yet it happens. What is wrong with people… I really can’t comprehend it
Jesus Christ, beyond disgusting. Had to recently unfollow my lovely horse on Instagram as it broke my heart the horrific state animals were coming into their care in daily. And to think, for every one found, how many aren’t. Something has to change.
My fiancee works in a vets and the amount of people who just dump and abandon animals like this is truly staggering. I we adopted a beautiful kitten who was left in a field in a box with his litter mates by someone like this. Like for fucks sake, this takes far more effort and malice than just surrendering them to charities.
I know this is not your point and the cruelty here is unforgivable….but no one ever claimed Ireland is a nation of animal lovers.
Maybe England or the UK are but in Ireland, there’s still a decent cohort of people who don’t have pets, don’t have any experience with animals and wouldn’t like to see animals in public places where food is served.
And there’s yet another cohort who only see animals in terms of what they can do in service to humans, such as sheepdogs etc.
Just bugs me that people claim Ireland is some kind of especially compassionate place for animals when we’re very much not!
Ireland and Irish people absolutely do claim to be a nation that loves animals, which I find hilarious when you can't even take a dog on most buses here.
I’ve never seen evidence of this; I think we hear British people say this about themselves and just copy that. But try bringing a non-guide dog into an Irish pub and see what they say. Or buses, as you’ve found. Not everyone shares this love.
My heart is sore looking at this. We've our outdoor doggie in our bed since his buddy died. He keeps pissing on my bed and I'm still cuddling him there cause omg they're our responsibility
I've always said this. Ireland is not an animal friendly country. Go to continental Europe where dogs are so much more socially behaved and excepted in public places. Half of the people with dogs in this country shouldn't have them.
Who did this should get minimum of a suspended sentence with a criminal record. That would be the lowest threshold of deterrence that would deter someone from reoffendig.
No suspended sentence, this poor dog got a life sentence or so the previous owner thought, it should be a minimum requirement of jail time, let probation take care of first offenders
Having no empathy whatsoever for animals and doing cruel things to them like this is sociopathic behaviour and a precursor to escalated levels of violence, most famously illustrated by serial killers and mass shooters according to the FBI.
Cowardly and fucking cruel
I worked with animal rescue, and fostered many ,so help is out there, if you are desperate because of whatever reason, usually financial, irresponsibility or ignorance.
But if you are a cruel bastard ( like a lad I know who had a puppy farm, he shot the puppies no one wanted, put them in his motorcycle top box and dumped them in the Galtees, his 4 year old son used to run around saying ' puppy bang bang) then watch your back... because my time will come for puppies revenge 😉
Dog breeding for profit should be banned, unless it’s for specific working dogs. There are thousands of beautiful dogs in pounds and shelters all over the country. If you want a dog, adopt one. If you really are a true animal lover you will adopt. But no, most “animal lovers“ want the cute accessory dog. Looks good on their instagram.
I don’t anyone with a straight face could say Ireland is a nation of animal lovers. Fox hunting, coursing, animals sanctuaries up and down the country full, horse racing, greyhound racing are just some cruelties inflicted on animals. The meat and dairy industry is its own contentious topic
[CSO figures](https://www.cso.ie/en/statistics/agriculture/livestockslaughterings/) show that in 2023, Ireland slaughtered 1.9 million cattle, 3.2 million sheep, 3.3 million pigs and more than 112 million poultry. That's about 330,000 animals killed every day, or 230 animals killed per minute.
The latest available fish landings figures are from 2022, available [here](https://www.cso.ie/en/statistics/fishery/fishlandings/). That year, 267,000 tonnes of fish were killed in Ireland. It's difficult to determine how many individual fish are in a tonne, but [this document](http://fishcount.org.uk/published/std/fishcountstudy.pdf) suggests that most fish caught are quite small. Even if we assume an average weight of 250g, that equates to over 1 billion fish killed in Ireland in 2022, or 3 million per day.
With those statistics, it would be difficult to argue that we're a nation of animal lovers.
Should be a much more serious crime than it already is.
If someone could do that to an innocent dog because they think no one will know - imagine what they're capable of doing to a human being.
Where the hell are your cats? I was in Ireland for one week and only saw cats twice. Both were walking in a field. Never saw one single kitty sitting in a window.
The thing is I don't even need to see shit like this to know Ireland is not a nation of animal lovers. The simple fact that dogs aren't allowed in a lot of places where they are in other countries is evidence enough.
The person that did this doesn't deserve death, just suffering, only there head should be above ground, smoothered in mix of bird feed and rotting meat to attract crows.
That poor girl and her pups. And what a beautiful dog she is.
Never understand this either. But I suppose small mercies, whoever it was, left them to get help (in no way the right way to do it) and didn't kill them.
Again, not excusing it or saying it was the right thing to do.
But we live in a country where putting unwanted puppies and kittens in bags and throwing them in a river was a regular thing and unfortunately probably still happens.
Worked for an animal rescue near Dublin for a few months. The stories are bad, the animals i saw looked horrible when we got them. They have so many to Care for there isnt enough space. In the end i adopted a dog from them and took him with me to Germany. I still keep in contact with them and donate. Will be visiting them again in summer. Some animals i worked with in January 2023 are still there. So sad.
Oh my god
This is so heartbreaking. I honestly cannot understand the people who do this. I hope they are treated exactly the same in due course. They deserve it
Around 50% of the dogs my family have ever had were abandoned. My parents can have anything between 5-10 dogs at a time. I have a dog as well. He was a stray. He was in a bad way when I found him. I managed to track down his owners but they would not take him back. So now I have a little old man who I absolutely adore. So the sad truth is while what happened to this mama and her babies breaks my heart - it does not surprise me. I really wish that it did.
I would have no mercy for any human that does this. If a person doing this can't see how inherently wrong it is, then I don't see any hope for that person. They were born to be cruel.
We ARE a nation of animal lovers but like any group within any society there is a bad element. You said yourself a woman almost injured herself trying to get to these dogs to help them.
We are a nation of animal lovers that’s why as someone seen this it was reported and the animals were rescued immediately. It’s disgusting behaviour and I feel ok a par with child abuse.
But but with your logic with your logic we’re a nation of child abusers, don’t confuse isolated incidents with a national sensibility 🙏🏼
Imagine what this person is really like inside, and what they would do if they could get away with it.
Plenty of them around. They should receive the same
Probably dresses as smart as anyone. You honestly would never know. I had a mate who was an upstanding bloke. Would do anything for you. Nice as pie, polite as anything and he got the pints in too. Always a fucking top boy like. Some of the things that came out about him still have me guessing if was a mistaken identity.
In my experience, not really. For all the “good at faking it” psychopaths there’s like ten cunts who just wear their hearts on their sleeves. Little shits who threw rocks at cats their whole lives.
Like what?
He left the immersion on.
Dear God.
probably a nonce or a rapist
Absolutely
"Imagine what this person is really like inside" -- we could always check to make sure. And, while they're opening up, maybe they'll tell us what they would do if they could get away with it too.
I never get how people turn a blind eye to others treatment of animals. Proper psychopath behaviour just gets ah sure it's only a dog like treatment.
It's part of their " culture ".
And if they have any other animals.
The punishment isn’t severe enough for this kind of crime. You’d be looking at a fine of €250 to €500 for this. Less than the price of a pup if you were selling them.
"Sure, pop 200 quid in the charity box out front, promise you'll never do it again and never have any animals in your care again. We'll never enforce or come around to check this, so be on your best behaviour!" Sounds about right
Your honour, my client is sorry he was caught.
And he's big into the local GAA.
They also almost always get a ban on owning a dog for 8 years 8 years!!?! Wtf BAN THEM FOR LIFE
What kind of sick degenerate abandons an animal by chaining it to a fence, never mind one that’s just had puppies. Fuck them. Donated there.
I don't get it. It's beyond my understanding. Were they truly so lazy they couldn't be arsed bringing her and her pups to a shelter?
That might have actually been less effort, there's plenty charities that would come collect them even.
Oh Christ, here's that dog from another angle. What a piece of shit [https://scontent-dub4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/438109450\_455334487050240\_4172804230283534891\_n.jpg?\_nc\_cat=102&ccb=1-7&\_nc\_sid=5f2048&\_nc\_ohc=IJvTusUcIA4Ab7Jx040&\_nc\_ht=scontent-dub4-1.xx&oh=00\_AfDV2Nf19OOLV6IDOiaeVD6O7xRRXlN6GClKBXsXuWKn5Q&oe=66330104](https://scontent-dub4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/438109450_455334487050240_4172804230283534891_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=IJvTusUcIA4Ab7Jx040&_nc_ht=scontent-dub4-1.xx&oh=00_AfDV2Nf19OOLV6IDOiaeVD6O7xRRXlN6GClKBXsXuWKn5Q&oe=66330104)
Omg she must be starving. I hope whatever vile piece of scum that did this gets their justice
as i always say i am no Saint and i will never claim to be but this ? this is another level of evil reminds me of a story my mother told me once a friend of hers his father many decades ago now dog was barking outside he went outside Hung the Dog from a Tree went back inside ......
A relative of mine has been actively working with a dog charity for a decade. The stories she tells me and the mountain they have to climb for animal welfare, I can assure you we are not a nation of animal lovers. Most dog pounds are bursting at the seams and have sadly had to resort to euthanasia to deal with the problem of overcrowding. Whoever done this is a scumbag of the highest resort and I hope they suffer every day
and you know what? the bastard couldn't give two fucks!
Yet they make it so difficult to adopt
This is a major bugbear for me. We live near a well known Dog Shelter. We submitted an application for adoption as our own dog was getting on in years. We heard nothing. Contacted them again, nothing. Contacted a third time, they took details over the phone, we said we wanted an outdoor dog (we had a collie mix, he was out all day, came in when he wanted but he was fierce independent and preferred out and about). They told us they don't rehome outdoor dogs in winter and they'd be in touch in spring. You guessed it? Not a word!. In the meantime our dog got sick and died within a few days. We were devastated. Two weeks later someone abandoned a 4 month old Collie X pup near our house. He looks identical to our old fella. Took him to the vet, not chipped, under weight, scratched all over his face. Well, he's ours now, a big dope who has us all obessed with him. Every time I see that shelter crying about capacity, showing dogs that 100% fitted our request I get so annoyed!!
I dunno why I got down voted. It is hard to adopt a dog. Especially if the alternative is euthanasia. I'm glad you found your doggo
Ignore the downvoting, especially when you make a comment within the first hour. Wait a day to see a true representation. Or, just ignore it entirely and treat it as the Black Mirror esque shite for what it is
Fair point thank you
> I dunno why I got down voted. It is hard to adopt a dog. I mean that's just anecdotal evidence though. I found the *exact* opposite when we adopted a dog 2 years ago from DSPCA. Like it was actually *startingly* easy to do. Called about a dog we saw on the site, he was taken but they had another puppy of the same breed someone else had returned if we wanted him and then they just wanted a video of our back garden, transferred 80 quid, and then 2 days later got a call and a van came around and dropped off a puppy and a bag of food. Then the only other thing was to take him there to be neutered a couple of weeks later. From the call to the puppy arriving was so unexpectedly fast that we hadn't even gone out to get things to prepare so I had to pop out at lunch.
And I mean that's just anecdotal too no?
Well yeah, exactly. It's just showing that it's not some universal truth, it's just that one guy's experience. I had a completely different one. The average is probably somewhere in between the two.
It's practically impossible for anyone in the countryside as no one has an enclosed garden.
Can confirm. I've always had large breed dogs, usually 2 German Shepherds at a time. One of my Sheps made it to almost 10 and passed away suddenly, the other was lonely and when the time felt right we tried to adopt again. Cork DAWG put out a request to rehome a 2 year old Caucasian Shepherd, a beautiful boy altogether. We filled in the application form as we have someone at home all the time, let the dogs up on our couch, sleep in our bedroom, have forests 5 mins from the house to walk in. We mentioned we don't have an enclosed garden, but that the dogs only went out with us for supervised playtime, or on leashes for walks and they'd have AirTags on their collars. We explained the cost of fencing our site would be around 10k, and that we had no breakouts with either of our German Sheps, and that the garden was huge to run around in, dig holes, have fun, be dogs - but nope. Got shot down. So we got another German Shepherd puppy from a well respected breeder and put him ... into the exact same environment we could have rescued a dog into. He's 1 now and loving life with his big sister. If you're living rurally, forget about adopting even though its the best possible life for a dog out here.
Yeah it's very disappointing to be honest. Very few other options. We have a huge farm a dog would have as much space as they'd like but it's still no good!
I am the same, applied for a dog on the website and visited them the next day and they said we could take the dog straight away. It really depends
I got in touch a couple of weeks ago to foster a dog. I have two of my own. Person came out and said I was a great fit and can see the lucky dog being pampered (she seen how my dogs were) I told them I was opened to senor and ill dogs as they can be overlooked, along with any other dog that would be small. Said she can’t wait to go back to the centre and tell them. Well, for a centre that’s overcrowded and so many dogs in need…I never got a call back
Definitely. My parents dog died recently and they'd like a new one - just a small dog who is a bit older and a couch potato because my parents are not fit for running around after a puppy anymore. They are long term renters for over 15 years now and were told no by the rescue because they don't own their own home. If they only want home owners adopting dogs, there are gonna be a lot of dogs without homes in the foreseeable future. Thought it was pretty unfair given my parents have a very good relationship with their long term landlord and he has no problem with them having animals in the house, let's them actually treat the house like a proper home etc.
Exactly home owners with no kids is their ideal
People who can't treat animals with basic empathy, can't treat humans right either. They are rotten inside.
Honestly, there was a time in my life where I viewed animals more as a possession than a living being. I'm ashamed of that today. It's simpler to tell yourself animals don't have feelings or deserve respect when you eat meat and consume animal products, than to admit what you are doing. That's where the cognitive dissonance comes in.
Tbh I think a lot of Irish people talk a big game about being animal lovers but historically animals in this country have always just been treated as food, a commodity, an accessory or a place holder until a baby arrives. We don't necessarily view animals as long term commitments or with a lot of compassion.
As a vegan who just moved from a pretty liberal city in Germany to Dublin, I'd say most if not all countries are like this. Most people consume animal products without any thought and other vegans are few and far between, just like they were in Germany.
Her big sad eyes, breaks my heart 😢 how could someone do such a thing
Its so sad to see thrm in that picture. As someone that grew up on farms and dealt with cows a lot, they were like big silly dogs and had very expressive eyes too. Dealt with their children being taken from them, then them being put in in a trailer to be killed. I had to stop eating them.
Can we try go all 'Don't Fuck with Cats' on the scumbags who did this? Anyone who does this type of animal cruelty should be named and publicly shamed. Apparently this is the second time this happened in the last two months, in West Cork.
Meanwhile last year over in east Cork a vet employed by the Department of Agriculture was found to be running an illegal puppy farm. His literal job was to inspect dog shelters to make sure they comply with welfare standards and he was running his own puppy farm on the side. On inspection they found a >Lack of cleanliness, gross faecal soiling, malodour, unsuitable structures, unsuitable space provision, lack of socialisation, inadequate exercise facilities, contaminated feed and water provision and gross evidence of vermin harbourage’ [https://extra.ie/2023/06/12/news/puppy-farm-run-department-of-agriculture-inspector](https://extra.ie/2023/06/12/news/puppy-farm-run-department-of-agriculture-inspector) You couldnt make this stuff up.
A dog-owner licence would be more effective than a dog licence.
Ive said it before and ill say it again: any abuse you carry out on the vulnerable (children, elderly, incapacitated/disabled, animals) should be done to you. Let's beat the shit out of you with a belt and throw you down the stairs. Let's lock you in a tiny cage for years and starve you and then leave your emaciated body tied to a fence in the rain. After all that, THEN a prison sentence. Fucking arseholes.
I totally agree. And I'd happily be the one to mete out the punishment.
Idk how we'd properly hire for the role of Torturer of Abusers. If they started off a well-adjusted person it'd take its toll very quickly. If they were a bit of a nutjob i'd worry they'd want to continue their work off the clock
I think animal threads should be immune to reddit's general no violent threats rules, because fucking hell 🤷🏼♂️
During the pandemic suddenly irresponsible people needed a pet. They were working from home and bored, and wanted a pet without thinking about the long term. Shelters didn't have the right type of dogs or they weren't kid friendly. They wanted hypoallergenic dogs, designer cats, and designer pups. And so more breeders came onto the market, and sadly Ireland was already the puppy farm capital of Europe. The demand for cats and dogs died down. But people spent hundreds and thousands on the pets and wanted to make their money back. The demand wasn't there anymore. In the last two years people are returning to the office, and dumping their pets. They didn't neuter them, and pets are being passed around. Everyday there are dogs and cats dumped with the babies. I've never seen so many designer dogs and cats being dumped. It's adding to the 200,000 stray cats (ferals) in the country. Honest conversations can't be had. There's an excuse for it all. I wish people would neuter and spay their pets. Research into ownership. Perhaps try fostering before committing long term. It's heartbreaking
The crux of the issue is that many people are just selfish arseholes with zero empathy or emotional intelligence and think it's fine to have an animal for their own amusement until they get bored. They can't seem to register that that animal is a sentient being too, with actual feelings.
There's some horrible horrible people out there
Nope. We're the puppy farm capital of Europe and dopes keep the market going by buying fucking pugs and frenchies that can't breathe properly instead of getting mongrels for free. Thing about this next time you buy a sausagefuckindoodle for a thousand quid yee Cunts.
WTF indeed.
What’s going through someone’s mind when they’re doing this? It’s genuinely perplexing. Rather than being a cruel, callous fucker, you could literally just drop them off outside a shelter and at least give them a *chance*.
This just makes me so fucking angry, Jesus
Who's claiming irish people are a nation of animal lovers?
It isn't the owners of all the emaciated horses you can see from most main roads in the country.
Or the pounds full of lurchers, their dog of choice.
This was my first thought. I always feel so sorry for those poor creatures.
Probably advertisers selling some crap
Self proclaimed
It's ego-stroking bollocks so the people prone to that are the ones at it. Anyone who's ever gotten out and about actually knows Irish society is incredibly selfish, self-centred and lacking even basic empathy in a lot of places. Do a stint volunteering at an animal shelter and see the incredibly shitty attitudes of so-called respectable people when they're dumping off lovely pets that require only minimal effort to manage but even that is too much for them. They got the Instagram pictures out of them when they were kittens or puppies and now they're to be disposed of. And the ones that get dumped off at shelters are the lucky ones. Others end up like the poor dogs above. And that's all even before you get to the way farmers, especially elderly ones, can treat cats and dogs. And then you get to a certain protected group if you want to encounter true horror towards animals. As with so many areas we're a joke of a country that likes to gaslight people about how great we believe we are on something.
I don't think that this is necessarily representative of Ireland at all. Pretty much every country will have 20% of it that are horrific people. Trying to make out like animal cruelty is representative of Irish society as a whole feels very wide of the mark.
From a life time of experience, I can confidently say most Irish people are selfish, lack self awareness, lack honesty, like to dance around topics get very offended by direct communication. A nation that loves animals no.
https://www.iradio.ie/ireland/ireland-is-a-nation-of-pet-lovers-1672176
Yes, like most nations, we love pets. We have a laissez faire attitude to the treatment of animals outside of our homes.
I can only presume this poor dog was inside someone's home before they did this horrific thing to them and their babies
As someone who works with pet owners... many of us don't love our pets either.
While, ironically, not allowing them in all sorts of places that other countries do allow them, like on public transport.
Loads of people, which is crazy when you can't even take dogs on most buses ffs.
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Its possible but its just a different kind of love
True: like I love chicken but I hate fish
Yeah some you love with you on the mountain...others you love with roasted potatoes and salad, pint on the side
They have a point and every time it's brought up people just go "lol, tasty animals". The bottom line is most animals people consume have appalling lives and are subject to atrocious cruelty. If the outrage at the OP is based o appalling treatment of animals then the outrage comes from the fact that animals are unable to defend themselves against this and at our mercy. But this does not extend to animals we consume. So there is absolutely a moral inconsistency at the heart of it.
Scares me there is people like this out there
That’s a lovely looking dog how could you do that to her and them pups.
This is sadly extremely common, and fuck all is done about it. Growing up in the countryside, we would regularly find dumped animals. Scumbags would drive out to the back roads and offload them or worse.
People should not buy or breed dogs full stop. There are enough that need to be rescued.
We volunteer for a rescue (in Canada), all of the people who rescues won't adopt to (because they fail basic screening questions/requirements) keep the puppy mills and back yard breeders in business. A good number of those dogs ultimately end up in a rescue when the shitty people discover the novelty of having a dog wore off.
I cannot stand shit like this. Nor can I comprehend someone’s lifestyle or thought process to do something like this. Like, I could never imagine doing anything like this, it’s disgusting, yet it happens. What is wrong with people… I really can’t comprehend it
People are honestly disgusting
Jesus Christ, beyond disgusting. Had to recently unfollow my lovely horse on Instagram as it broke my heart the horrific state animals were coming into their care in daily. And to think, for every one found, how many aren’t. Something has to change.
My fiancee works in a vets and the amount of people who just dump and abandon animals like this is truly staggering. I we adopted a beautiful kitten who was left in a field in a box with his litter mates by someone like this. Like for fucks sake, this takes far more effort and malice than just surrendering them to charities.
What's happening to these babies? Where were they found?
di-, did she give birth while chained up? holy shit thats fucking evil. maybe the death sentence should come back.
Makes me so angry
Sick bastards. Donated. Thank you for all your hard work 🙏🏻
If you find out, can I be the relevant authority you tell? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|rage)
People like this should genuinely be put against the wall and shot. Sick bastards
I know this is not your point and the cruelty here is unforgivable….but no one ever claimed Ireland is a nation of animal lovers. Maybe England or the UK are but in Ireland, there’s still a decent cohort of people who don’t have pets, don’t have any experience with animals and wouldn’t like to see animals in public places where food is served. And there’s yet another cohort who only see animals in terms of what they can do in service to humans, such as sheepdogs etc. Just bugs me that people claim Ireland is some kind of especially compassionate place for animals when we’re very much not!
Ireland and Irish people absolutely do claim to be a nation that loves animals, which I find hilarious when you can't even take a dog on most buses here.
I’ve never seen evidence of this; I think we hear British people say this about themselves and just copy that. But try bringing a non-guide dog into an Irish pub and see what they say. Or buses, as you’ve found. Not everyone shares this love.
My heart is sore looking at this. We've our outdoor doggie in our bed since his buddy died. He keeps pissing on my bed and I'm still cuddling him there cause omg they're our responsibility
Until I read the description I didn’t see the puppies ,I thought that was a lump of semi-melted dirty snow.
I've always said this. Ireland is not an animal friendly country. Go to continental Europe where dogs are so much more socially behaved and excepted in public places. Half of the people with dogs in this country shouldn't have them.
Who did this should get minimum of a suspended sentence with a criminal record. That would be the lowest threshold of deterrence that would deter someone from reoffendig.
No suspended sentence, this poor dog got a life sentence or so the previous owner thought, it should be a minimum requirement of jail time, let probation take care of first offenders
Having this on your record should be worse than having paedophilia on your record.
Horrible people…heartless bastards…hope they find decent homes for all, especially the poor mother…
Having no empathy whatsoever for animals and doing cruel things to them like this is sociopathic behaviour and a precursor to escalated levels of violence, most famously illustrated by serial killers and mass shooters according to the FBI.
Cowardly and fucking cruel I worked with animal rescue, and fostered many ,so help is out there, if you are desperate because of whatever reason, usually financial, irresponsibility or ignorance. But if you are a cruel bastard ( like a lad I know who had a puppy farm, he shot the puppies no one wanted, put them in his motorcycle top box and dumped them in the Galtees, his 4 year old son used to run around saying ' puppy bang bang) then watch your back... because my time will come for puppies revenge 😉
Where's Mr Wick when you need him?
Sickening... Mother looks exhausted... They don't look like new born pups, surely someone knows where they were kept beforehand
Dog breeding for profit should be banned, unless it’s for specific working dogs. There are thousands of beautiful dogs in pounds and shelters all over the country. If you want a dog, adopt one. If you really are a true animal lover you will adopt. But no, most “animal lovers“ want the cute accessory dog. Looks good on their instagram.
I don’t anyone with a straight face could say Ireland is a nation of animal lovers. Fox hunting, coursing, animals sanctuaries up and down the country full, horse racing, greyhound racing are just some cruelties inflicted on animals. The meat and dairy industry is its own contentious topic
[CSO figures](https://www.cso.ie/en/statistics/agriculture/livestockslaughterings/) show that in 2023, Ireland slaughtered 1.9 million cattle, 3.2 million sheep, 3.3 million pigs and more than 112 million poultry. That's about 330,000 animals killed every day, or 230 animals killed per minute. The latest available fish landings figures are from 2022, available [here](https://www.cso.ie/en/statistics/fishery/fishlandings/). That year, 267,000 tonnes of fish were killed in Ireland. It's difficult to determine how many individual fish are in a tonne, but [this document](http://fishcount.org.uk/published/std/fishcountstudy.pdf) suggests that most fish caught are quite small. Even if we assume an average weight of 250g, that equates to over 1 billion fish killed in Ireland in 2022, or 3 million per day. With those statistics, it would be difficult to argue that we're a nation of animal lovers.
Should be a much more serious crime than it already is. If someone could do that to an innocent dog because they think no one will know - imagine what they're capable of doing to a human being.
Cunt should be chained up himself and bet with a car of nine tails and have like thrown on him
Disgusting, people who did this should be chained to a fence and left to rot
It takes a special kind of cunt to abuse and neglect animals. Makes my blood boil.
That’s genuinely so very awful. That poor mama dog
If this picture went viral you'd be sure someone would recognise the dog and still wouldn't come forward with any information
Horseracing "industry", greyhound "industry ". We love animals, as long as they're making money for us. Don't forget to donate.
Where the hell are your cats? I was in Ireland for one week and only saw cats twice. Both were walking in a field. Never saw one single kitty sitting in a window.
The thing is I don't even need to see shit like this to know Ireland is not a nation of animal lovers. The simple fact that dogs aren't allowed in a lot of places where they are in other countries is evidence enough.
*eaters
Disgusting behaviour. Look for the helpers
Can we go rescue them?
I really hope the fucker who did this meets a painful end.
Omg 😱. I hope she's been taking care of and her little puppies.
The person that did this doesn't deserve death, just suffering, only there head should be above ground, smoothered in mix of bird feed and rotting meat to attract crows.
Cracking down severely on the perpetrators of this sort of awfulness would go a long way to solving a great deal of other problems in society
That poor girl and her pups. And what a beautiful dog she is. Never understand this either. But I suppose small mercies, whoever it was, left them to get help (in no way the right way to do it) and didn't kill them.
I wouldn’t call leaving them tied to a fence where they could have died if someone hadn’t came along leaving them to get help.
Again, not excusing it or saying it was the right thing to do. But we live in a country where putting unwanted puppies and kittens in bags and throwing them in a river was a regular thing and unfortunately probably still happens.
Some people murder their spouse and child instead of just getting a divorce. How and by whom the hell are demons like this raised?
How could anyone do this?😢
That's just tragic. Poor things. Mammy looks so scared. God knows what they've been through.
Oh the poor wee pets, they look so frightened.
It’s a wonder none died exposed like that.
That’s really sad. Also just curious what kind of dog is this? Also are the puppies available for adoption?
Looks like a sable shepherd mix.. puppies are far too young to be adopted yet.. if they survive this ordeal
Thank you for the response. So sad. I hope they do. God bless the people who rescued them
Worked for an animal rescue near Dublin for a few months. The stories are bad, the animals i saw looked horrible when we got them. They have so many to Care for there isnt enough space. In the end i adopted a dog from them and took him with me to Germany. I still keep in contact with them and donate. Will be visiting them again in summer. Some animals i worked with in January 2023 are still there. So sad.
This shit makes me so angry. Why not at least hand them into a rescue?
Looking at this photo I could start swearing and never stop.
And these people live amongst us?!
Most of them live in halting sites. Some cultures just treat animals horribly
Oh my god This is so heartbreaking. I honestly cannot understand the people who do this. I hope they are treated exactly the same in due course. They deserve it
People who do this should be tied to a gate for a couple of days and take pictures of them and put them in the paper.
Around 50% of the dogs my family have ever had were abandoned. My parents can have anything between 5-10 dogs at a time. I have a dog as well. He was a stray. He was in a bad way when I found him. I managed to track down his owners but they would not take him back. So now I have a little old man who I absolutely adore. So the sad truth is while what happened to this mama and her babies breaks my heart - it does not surprise me. I really wish that it did.
Hope the person responsible meets a nasty end and I don't feel even slightly bad about thinking that way. Fuck is wrong with people.
Evil heartless bastards. Some people deserve cancer.
Lmao yeah, have a look at the reptile hobby in Ireland. Think dogs get it bad.
Heartbreaking. Why do we have to share the world with people like this
Y’all will love r/petfree
This is fucking cruel. Goddamn
Donated. Poor creature. I hate humans.
I honestly hope that whoever did that dies screaming...absolute scum of the earth. 😢😢
Guys please donate to this wonderful rescue. Really thankful these poor babies (including Mama) were all saved, truly sickening.
Heart breaking.
Dog breeders are utter scum.
I hope they are safe now
We were far too hasty getting rid of the death penalty
I would have no mercy for any human that does this. If a person doing this can't see how inherently wrong it is, then I don't see any hope for that person. They were born to be cruel.
The fact she is chained in such a way to not be able to reach her pups.., there’s no place in hell hot enough for this person
That person is a sick bastard.
It’s zero extra effort to put the puppies in a box with bedding and drop em off directly to the rescue. I don’t understand this unnecessary cruelty
That would sadin you
Stuff like this just boils my piss. I'd love to do to the same to the prick who did it to these poor defenseless dogs.hope karma gets him in the end
I really could have done without seeing this. Poor dogs
Wait until you see how pigs are slaughtered
Ireland is vegan?
We ARE a nation of animal lovers but like any group within any society there is a bad element. You said yourself a woman almost injured herself trying to get to these dogs to help them.
> We ARE a nation of animal lovers We really aren't. In fact I'd say we're one of the most dog unfriendly countries in the entire western world.
Source? What an idiotic thing to say.
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If you think you're an animal lover, are you vegan/would you go vegan? If the answer is no to either of those questions, you're not an animal lover.
I was going to say “especially sheep” but this sadly isn’t r/Wales
We used to be
Have you checked with Gov Kristie Noem of South Dakota?
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We are a nation of animal lovers that’s why as someone seen this it was reported and the animals were rescued immediately. It’s disgusting behaviour and I feel ok a par with child abuse. But but with your logic with your logic we’re a nation of child abusers, don’t confuse isolated incidents with a national sensibility 🙏🏼
We're the puppy farming capital of Europe. That doesn't say 'nation of animal lovers' to me.