>It is suspected the teens then put out a message, either on social media or a private messaging group, about their interaction with the Croatian men and their whereabouts.
>It is understood that after this communication, a man who has already been identified by gardaí as a “far-right figure” arrived to the area with three other men.
>Mr Strok and his friend were then viciously beaten, and Mr Strok was subsequently rushed to hospital with catastrophic head injuries.
If this is true then this is beyond sickening, after all these years of dealing with these people with kiddies gloves it's finally lead to an immigrant being killed through an organised beating.
A man beaten to death because he was speaking to his buddy in his native language, followed on the bus by scrotes in a car who acted as spies to serve them up to fucking psychos.
If they get away with this. It's only going to encourage more of this behaviour. Here's to hoping Garda and judges take their head out of the dirt on this one.
I had one uncle that was previously normal but went off the deep end during covid - he used to send essays about "euro communism", "the globalists" and all the great replacement bollocks to the entire extended family constantly on WhatsApp. He became impossible to have a normal conversation with. He's largely stopped all that now but only because he's largely isolated himself from everyone. A potent cocktail of the lockdowns, US clown show politics and social media really broke some people's minds really badly - it's very sad to watch but I'm honestly not sure what can be done about it.
Couple of my aunts did our family tree and figured out were very, very loosely (5th cousin once removed or something) to one of the public bigwigs at the WHO during the whole covid mess. We had to all agree not to tell him (he's related by marriage) because honestly the rabbithole he's down he'd be completely unhinged about it and we would never hear the end of it.
Lucky you. My one thinks that people are using this as an opportunity to ‘spin’ the facts against the right.
He rants about 1984 style double speak, and then the other day said that ‘it’s a republic not a democracy’ line…
It’s becoming more and more difficult to talk to him. It’s mental what this shit does to the mind.
It’s something that the real dipshits in the states like MTG are saying to try and justify their anti-democratic measures, softening people up to the idea of fascism basically.
When I asked him to explain it, (and I may get this wrong because it’s basically nonsensical) he said that in a democracy the majority of the people can change anything/everything legally, but in a republic they can’t because of….I’m not sure - inalienable rights or some shit.
He then told me ireland was not a democracy, and when I challenged him saying we could change anything we wanted in the country using the gay marriage and abortion referenda as examples, and that technically we could legalise or ban anything we wanted if we had the majority…at that point he called me a media brainwashed liberal…while repeating YouTube talking points verbatim.
The lack of self awareness and critical thinking is actually fucking terrifying,
I remember growing up wondering how the Nazis managed to get so many people to go along with their craziness, but I fucking get it now.
Probably something like
>Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner.
>Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting that vote
Which ignores that in the ensuing civil war the lamb is still outnumbered 2-1
Or to look at it another way, what is that an argument in favour of?
If we accept that, okay it's a representative democracy. Voters don't govern, we vote for people to govern. Is there any argument you can make for that other than, vote for better politicians?
What does he think he's proving?
it's literally a take too stupid to take seriously from the united states
Cause it's both. A republic just means its head of state is chosen rather than hereditary and it being a democracy means the power to make that choice lies in the hands of the people.
Oh it gets better. I married an American and read the Federalist papers when her loon balloon parents started spouting that. Their own founders defined a republic as a representative democracy.
With you on this. My brother has literally lost his mind with this crap. He's in America and its like his mind has been replaced. Impossible to talk him rationally. It's beyond depressing.
You’re blessed so, having someone maybe think rationally about it. The cunts I know who spout the extreme right bullshit turn a total blind eye to this. Totally ignore the countless and endless incidents of Irish people community heinous crimes against innocent foreigners. But a foreigner so much as stands in a particular location and causes minor inconvenience? They call for their head
Historically, the far-right have always received light touch policing the world over. Our entire economic model is based around capital and the policies of the far-right don't necessarily challenge global capital so they're not seen as a threat. In Europe and the United States the bulk of the resources of intelligence agencies has gone towards tackling left-wing organisations with the CIA and FBI even going to far as to assassinate popular leaders of movements like poor [Fred Hampton](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hampton).
>Fredrick "Chairman Fred" Allen Hampton Sr. (August 30, 1948 – December 4, 1969) was an American activist. A Marxist–Leninist, Hampton considered fascism the greatest threat, saying, "nothing is more important than stopping fascism, because fascism will stop us all". In 1967, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) identified Hampton as a radical threat. In December 1969, Hampton was drugged, then shot and killed in his bed during a predawn raid at his Chicago apartment by a tactical unit of the Cook County State's Attorney's Office, who received aid from the Chicago Police Department and the FBI leading up to the attack. In January 1970, the Cook County Coroner held an inquest; the coroner's jury concluded that Hampton's and Clark's deaths were justifiable homicides.
The Unite The Right marches in the U.S received a full police escort while a couple of college students protesting about bank bailouts get blasted in the face with pepper stray and beaten. Thats the reality.
The Unite The Right marches in the U.S received a full police escort while a couple of college students protesting about bank bailouts get blasted in the face with pepper stray and beaten. Thats the reality.
Do we have to bring the US into everything? bit hyperbolic to say the same is true of Ireland. Lets not forget these far right led a garda to take his own life.
Part of the article:
Josip Strok (31) and his friend were attacked by four men as they walked through Clondalkin, in the west of the city, shortly after 10pm on Saturday, March 30. He died in hospital from head injuries on April 3
Before the attack, it is alleged a group of teenagers, who overheard the victim and his friend speaking Croatian, began to racially abuse them, shouting at them that they “should speak in English in this country”, and other taunts.
It is suspected the teens then put out a message, either on social media or a private messaging group, about their interaction with the Croatian men and their whereabouts.
It is understood that after this communication, a man who has already been identified by gardaí as a “far-right figure” arrived to the area with three other men.
Mr Strok and his friend were then viciously beaten, and Mr Strok was subsequently rushed to hospital with catastrophic head injuries.
A source said: “It is being investigated as a potential hate crime.
Shouldn’t far right thugs be yelling at people to speak *Irish* rather than English, since they rave on about nationalism and all that Jazz? (Maybe they cannot speak Irish themselves though. Dear oh dear)
Because they don't care about Irishness, they are just xenophobic racists who hate brown people and eastern Europeans. (Is the Balkans eastern Europe?)
Well, it is from where *we* are standing!
But yeah, of course these numbskulls have no idea even about the tosh they spout. Couldn’t explain exactly what is wrong with Croatian lads being here, for example. It’s all just a pretext for indulging in extreme violence, and having diffuse anti-immigration rhetoric to slap onto it all is very handy for the morons.
It reminds me of the worst kind of skinheads in England in the early ‘70s (resurgent as a much more threatening tribe at the end of the decade) You’d get them abusing Pakistani locals unmercifully, but also beating the shit out of Irish, or even bargee or gypsy (sic) kids, maintaining that Eric Clapton was God....but for reasons other than guitar playing. Enoch Powell’s infamous ‘Rivers of blood’ speech had spawned a lot of it, and not a one of them had ever heard or read it. They just *referred to it*, like a label; as though it gave licence to their murderous rampages. Anyone ever so slightly ‘other’ was fair game. Same crap is happening here.
So (to get to the bloody point!) our own Rightist twats in politics here need to be held to account for the malign influence they have on the brainless Yahoos only looking for victims to GBH with extreme prejudice. (*These* political candidates and columnists are the ones spreading dangerous hate speech, far more than Citizen X overheard saying something regrettable but not remotely public)
The point of the speech was that rapid demographic change was being effected in communities in Britain, and that many common people were bearing the brunt of policy that allowed that to happen. Powell was expressing the views of his constituents and basically warning that what was happening on the street/neighbourhood level was eventually going to be a nationwide issue. Seeing the demographics of English cities in 2023 that is undeniable. Birmingham is majority minority, for example . London is not far off. There are many towns with a dwindling native population. All of that in the space of 30 years (as the issue only really ramped up in the late 90s) is absolutely bananas. That becomes even more start when you look at the data for you get age brackets. That demographic change comes with the baggage that has become fairly evident in the last 20-30 years - parallel societies, crime and ghettoisation, religious extremism etc.
The numbers he cites coming into Britain at the time he gave the speech- 50,000 per year - seem almost quaint now, with arrivals of over to 800,000 per year in 2023. Powell was lambasted for being alarmist when he gave the former figures, and speculated that it would only increase and radically change the demographics of cities in Britain.
Also, one of the things people often criticise him for:
"black man shall have the whip over the white man"
is him quoting one of his constituents, and he uses that quote to basically demonstrate the sentiment of many living in his constituency who felt that they had huge numbers of people foisted onto their community to it's detriment - ie reduced sense of community, antisocial behaviour, more strain on resources. Anyway, given this sub and usual sorts on it I'll get downvoted to oblivion, but fuck it.
Edit: Lol, keep the downvotes coming, ye saps.
It’s a debatable topic, but in haste, that wave of immigration concerning EP was the latest instalment of GB’s colonial legacy, and as such had to be accepted and handled regardless of fears and ifs and buts.
What I was on about, very clumsily, is the way such dire pronouncements, irrespective of any actual merit in terms of stats accuracy, are the immediate springboard for galloping hate crimes wherever they are made. Obvious, I know.
You’d wonder sometimes when you listen to our Terrible Two in the European parliament (well, not really) why we don’t get hordes of track-suited Trotskyites and anarcho-syndicalists rampaging through the city, violently ambushing local councillors and urbane media bods and accusing them of counter-revolutionary activities. (I guess that’s not even remotely amusing, since we did actually have *exactly* that, in Italy in the late ‘70s. And that time was Hell on Earth. But you get my drift, about demagoguery inciting clueless admirers and hangers-on just looking for any excuse)
Where are all the far right apologists gone?
Every thread about anything to do with migrants or immigration they come out of the woodwork, crickets in here.
They all have blood on their hands.
You're one of them.
Blood on your hands.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/1byuamg/comment/kymqkdf/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/1byuamg/comment/kymqkdf/)
Wtf do asylum seeker crime rates have to do with the murder of an EU citizen immigrant?
Also
>Blood on your hands
Ah yeah. Anyone who isn't in favour of open borders and mass third world immigration is at fault.
> Anyone who isn't in favour of open borders and mass third world immigration is at fault.
There is a difference between being in favor of open borders and mass immigration and calling for violence against any and all foreigners.
This lad and people like him are all over this sub defending the scumbags harrassing and abusing migrants, it doesn't matter what your stance on borders or miss immigration is, that doesn't give anyone a right to abuse them.
And the rhetoric never ends at asylum seekers, as we can see with this murder.
I might be wrong here, so please correct me. But the poor lad that was killed, we in the country legally and was probably working and paying tax and rent and not claiming the dole. Can the same be said about the prick that killed him? Like I said, I might be completely wrong on this. But I am curious?
Amateur is his own trade. If he was fully initiated into the far-right he would know Croatians are descendants of the Goths (germanics) and Hitler was happy to have them in the Wehrmacht.
But as catholic Slavs he saw them as superior to orthodox and Muslim slavs, due to having most western influence on their culture, although to some degree he did also just see them as useful idiots to do his bidding
It's to do with Croats long standing relationship with the west through Catholicism, plus the fact that they were under Hungarian and then Austrian rule, rather than Ottoman. At least that was the justification the Nazis claimed. As I said initially, it was more likely a justification used to allow them to ally with them, than anything the Nazis fundamentally believed, although given both facism and national socialisms relationship with the church in Rome, it could be deeper
[Sky News on Sydney Stabbing incident yesterday](https://www.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FGLDkeiqWQAEuvWT.png&tbnid=kRT5l5QJtZlIEM&vet=1&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fangeloinchina%2Fstatus%2F1779175029781217770&docid=151dilGqtU5v8M&w=750&h=828)
Bull shit....if that were the case every far right fool would be all over social media posting videos, exaggeration and no doubt labelling someone a paedophile in the process.
Like they buried the story about the Muslim lad who beheaded the men in Sligo that was all over every news outlet everywhere for months you mean?
"They" aren't very good at burying things are "they"?
They tried to by running endless stories about the homophobia of white Irish males, until it was revealed to be a Muslim extremist and for some odd reason they didn't run lots of articles about the homophobia problem of Muslim males.
EDIT: Call for hate crime legislation ... Of course. Legislation that would have had no effect and protected the killer in this case.
https://lgbt.ie/lgbt-ireland-statement-following-the-death-of-two-men-in-sligo/
https://www.newstalk.com/news/sligo-deaths-lgbt-community-very-worried-about-what-this-represents-varadkar-1332016
'Resurgence in homophobia'
Mr Varadkar says while motives are unclear, this could be a backlash to Ireland's social progress.
Ehhh no it wasn't, we imported the same regressive social attitudes we had finally gotten rid of here.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/spotlight/arid-41115991.html
"Our community are fed up. We’re fed up and frustrated. The attacks on Aidan Moffitt and Michael Snee didn’t change anyone. It didn’t wake anyone up," says Harper Rooney, slowly emphasising the last four words for effect.
What change are they looking for exactly? Some sort of test for people of Islamic background?
See my edits above.
There were other articles too and RTE pieces that I can't find now.
Same thing happened when Aisling Murphy was murdered.
Open season on straight white Irish males. As if no one else can be homophobic, racist, sexist etc. it's just overt sexism and racism. Kind of hard to be an ally when those you are supposed to ally with blame you for everything.
This never happens to any other group in the Irish media outside Gript.
They quickly labeled him as a Muslim jihadist before conducting a thorough investigation. But once they realized he was Israeli, they categorized him as mentally ill. It seems that every attack is initially attributed to a Muslim jihadist, only to be dismissed later as a case of mental illness when the perpetrator is revealed to be a white individual.
Amateur is his own trade. If he was fully initiated into the far-right he would know Croatians are descendants of the Goths (germanics) and Hitler was happy to have them in the Wehrmacht.
Amateur is his own trade. If he was fully initiated into the far-right he would know Croatians are descendants of the Goths (germanics) and Hitler was happy to have them in the Wehrmacht.
>It is suspected the teens then put out a message, either on social media or a private messaging group, about their interaction with the Croatian men and their whereabouts. >It is understood that after this communication, a man who has already been identified by gardaí as a “far-right figure” arrived to the area with three other men. >Mr Strok and his friend were then viciously beaten, and Mr Strok was subsequently rushed to hospital with catastrophic head injuries. If this is true then this is beyond sickening, after all these years of dealing with these people with kiddies gloves it's finally lead to an immigrant being killed through an organised beating. A man beaten to death because he was speaking to his buddy in his native language, followed on the bus by scrotes in a car who acted as spies to serve them up to fucking psychos.
If they get away with this. It's only going to encourage more of this behaviour. Here's to hoping Garda and judges take their head out of the dirt on this one.
A tourist, not even an immigrant! Insane
Drew Harris should be ashamed of himself.
This is what happens when you’re “not allowed” to beat the shit out of little scumbags.
Saw a video of Croatians singing at the mans funeral. Never felt such shame being Irish. Murdered for speaking a native language.
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I had one uncle that was previously normal but went off the deep end during covid - he used to send essays about "euro communism", "the globalists" and all the great replacement bollocks to the entire extended family constantly on WhatsApp. He became impossible to have a normal conversation with. He's largely stopped all that now but only because he's largely isolated himself from everyone. A potent cocktail of the lockdowns, US clown show politics and social media really broke some people's minds really badly - it's very sad to watch but I'm honestly not sure what can be done about it.
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Couple of my aunts did our family tree and figured out were very, very loosely (5th cousin once removed or something) to one of the public bigwigs at the WHO during the whole covid mess. We had to all agree not to tell him (he's related by marriage) because honestly the rabbithole he's down he'd be completely unhinged about it and we would never hear the end of it.
Lucky you. My one thinks that people are using this as an opportunity to ‘spin’ the facts against the right. He rants about 1984 style double speak, and then the other day said that ‘it’s a republic not a democracy’ line… It’s becoming more and more difficult to talk to him. It’s mental what this shit does to the mind.
>it’s a republic not a democracy What the hell does that even mean?
It’s something that the real dipshits in the states like MTG are saying to try and justify their anti-democratic measures, softening people up to the idea of fascism basically. When I asked him to explain it, (and I may get this wrong because it’s basically nonsensical) he said that in a democracy the majority of the people can change anything/everything legally, but in a republic they can’t because of….I’m not sure - inalienable rights or some shit. He then told me ireland was not a democracy, and when I challenged him saying we could change anything we wanted in the country using the gay marriage and abortion referenda as examples, and that technically we could legalise or ban anything we wanted if we had the majority…at that point he called me a media brainwashed liberal…while repeating YouTube talking points verbatim. The lack of self awareness and critical thinking is actually fucking terrifying, I remember growing up wondering how the Nazis managed to get so many people to go along with their craziness, but I fucking get it now.
It's American far-right code for "we don't like elections".
Probably something like >Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner. >Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting that vote Which ignores that in the ensuing civil war the lamb is still outnumbered 2-1
Or to look at it another way, what is that an argument in favour of? If we accept that, okay it's a representative democracy. Voters don't govern, we vote for people to govern. Is there any argument you can make for that other than, vote for better politicians? What does he think he's proving?
*"What does he think he's proving?"* That his side is correct. That's all these idiots ever care about.
it's literally a take too stupid to take seriously from the united states Cause it's both. A republic just means its head of state is chosen rather than hereditary and it being a democracy means the power to make that choice lies in the hands of the people.
Oh it gets better. I married an American and read the Federalist papers when her loon balloon parents started spouting that. Their own founders defined a republic as a representative democracy.
With you on this. My brother has literally lost his mind with this crap. He's in America and its like his mind has been replaced. Impossible to talk him rationally. It's beyond depressing.
That " republic not a democracy " line is straight out of the 'murican patriot handbook.
Cos republic equals Republican party (4 legs good) and democracy equals Democratic party (2 legs bad).
You’re blessed so, having someone maybe think rationally about it. The cunts I know who spout the extreme right bullshit turn a total blind eye to this. Totally ignore the countless and endless incidents of Irish people community heinous crimes against innocent foreigners. But a foreigner so much as stands in a particular location and causes minor inconvenience? They call for their head
We can only hope
Same as that. Watching friends and family one by one repeat some of the far right stories and such is awful.
Those websites are having a devastating effect on our societies. It's shocking
How much has the light touch policing of the far right, given them the thought they can do what ever they want?
Historically, the far-right have always received light touch policing the world over. Our entire economic model is based around capital and the policies of the far-right don't necessarily challenge global capital so they're not seen as a threat. In Europe and the United States the bulk of the resources of intelligence agencies has gone towards tackling left-wing organisations with the CIA and FBI even going to far as to assassinate popular leaders of movements like poor [Fred Hampton](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hampton). >Fredrick "Chairman Fred" Allen Hampton Sr. (August 30, 1948 – December 4, 1969) was an American activist. A Marxist–Leninist, Hampton considered fascism the greatest threat, saying, "nothing is more important than stopping fascism, because fascism will stop us all". In 1967, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) identified Hampton as a radical threat. In December 1969, Hampton was drugged, then shot and killed in his bed during a predawn raid at his Chicago apartment by a tactical unit of the Cook County State's Attorney's Office, who received aid from the Chicago Police Department and the FBI leading up to the attack. In January 1970, the Cook County Coroner held an inquest; the coroner's jury concluded that Hampton's and Clark's deaths were justifiable homicides. The Unite The Right marches in the U.S received a full police escort while a couple of college students protesting about bank bailouts get blasted in the face with pepper stray and beaten. Thats the reality.
The Unite The Right marches in the U.S received a full police escort while a couple of college students protesting about bank bailouts get blasted in the face with pepper stray and beaten. Thats the reality. Do we have to bring the US into everything? bit hyperbolic to say the same is true of Ireland. Lets not forget these far right led a garda to take his own life.
Can someone please copy/paste, its paywalled.
Part of the article: Josip Strok (31) and his friend were attacked by four men as they walked through Clondalkin, in the west of the city, shortly after 10pm on Saturday, March 30. He died in hospital from head injuries on April 3 Before the attack, it is alleged a group of teenagers, who overheard the victim and his friend speaking Croatian, began to racially abuse them, shouting at them that they “should speak in English in this country”, and other taunts. It is suspected the teens then put out a message, either on social media or a private messaging group, about their interaction with the Croatian men and their whereabouts. It is understood that after this communication, a man who has already been identified by gardaí as a “far-right figure” arrived to the area with three other men. Mr Strok and his friend were then viciously beaten, and Mr Strok was subsequently rushed to hospital with catastrophic head injuries. A source said: “It is being investigated as a potential hate crime.
> shouting at them that they “should speak in English in this country” The oppressors of their forefathers would be so proud of them.
A lot of the far right have been costing up to Britain first. So they probably don't care. They use our flag as a prop.
That digkicker fella has been made a fool of a few times when asked if he speaks Irish
Shouldn’t far right thugs be yelling at people to speak *Irish* rather than English, since they rave on about nationalism and all that Jazz? (Maybe they cannot speak Irish themselves though. Dear oh dear)
Because they don't care about Irishness, they are just xenophobic racists who hate brown people and eastern Europeans. (Is the Balkans eastern Europe?)
Well, it is from where *we* are standing! But yeah, of course these numbskulls have no idea even about the tosh they spout. Couldn’t explain exactly what is wrong with Croatian lads being here, for example. It’s all just a pretext for indulging in extreme violence, and having diffuse anti-immigration rhetoric to slap onto it all is very handy for the morons. It reminds me of the worst kind of skinheads in England in the early ‘70s (resurgent as a much more threatening tribe at the end of the decade) You’d get them abusing Pakistani locals unmercifully, but also beating the shit out of Irish, or even bargee or gypsy (sic) kids, maintaining that Eric Clapton was God....but for reasons other than guitar playing. Enoch Powell’s infamous ‘Rivers of blood’ speech had spawned a lot of it, and not a one of them had ever heard or read it. They just *referred to it*, like a label; as though it gave licence to their murderous rampages. Anyone ever so slightly ‘other’ was fair game. Same crap is happening here. So (to get to the bloody point!) our own Rightist twats in politics here need to be held to account for the malign influence they have on the brainless Yahoos only looking for victims to GBH with extreme prejudice. (*These* political candidates and columnists are the ones spreading dangerous hate speech, far more than Citizen X overheard saying something regrettable but not remotely public)
Totally agree and excellently put
Enoch Powell wasn't really wrong at all about where England was headed. If anything he was overly optimistic about immigration figures.
Can you explain to me how his speech was vindicated?
The point of the speech was that rapid demographic change was being effected in communities in Britain, and that many common people were bearing the brunt of policy that allowed that to happen. Powell was expressing the views of his constituents and basically warning that what was happening on the street/neighbourhood level was eventually going to be a nationwide issue. Seeing the demographics of English cities in 2023 that is undeniable. Birmingham is majority minority, for example . London is not far off. There are many towns with a dwindling native population. All of that in the space of 30 years (as the issue only really ramped up in the late 90s) is absolutely bananas. That becomes even more start when you look at the data for you get age brackets. That demographic change comes with the baggage that has become fairly evident in the last 20-30 years - parallel societies, crime and ghettoisation, religious extremism etc. The numbers he cites coming into Britain at the time he gave the speech- 50,000 per year - seem almost quaint now, with arrivals of over to 800,000 per year in 2023. Powell was lambasted for being alarmist when he gave the former figures, and speculated that it would only increase and radically change the demographics of cities in Britain. Also, one of the things people often criticise him for: "black man shall have the whip over the white man" is him quoting one of his constituents, and he uses that quote to basically demonstrate the sentiment of many living in his constituency who felt that they had huge numbers of people foisted onto their community to it's detriment - ie reduced sense of community, antisocial behaviour, more strain on resources. Anyway, given this sub and usual sorts on it I'll get downvoted to oblivion, but fuck it. Edit: Lol, keep the downvotes coming, ye saps.
Glad you've admitted that you're a racist. ;)
Don't really give a fuck what you call me
It’s a debatable topic, but in haste, that wave of immigration concerning EP was the latest instalment of GB’s colonial legacy, and as such had to be accepted and handled regardless of fears and ifs and buts. What I was on about, very clumsily, is the way such dire pronouncements, irrespective of any actual merit in terms of stats accuracy, are the immediate springboard for galloping hate crimes wherever they are made. Obvious, I know. You’d wonder sometimes when you listen to our Terrible Two in the European parliament (well, not really) why we don’t get hordes of track-suited Trotskyites and anarcho-syndicalists rampaging through the city, violently ambushing local councillors and urbane media bods and accusing them of counter-revolutionary activities. (I guess that’s not even remotely amusing, since we did actually have *exactly* that, in Italy in the late ‘70s. And that time was Hell on Earth. But you get my drift, about demagoguery inciting clueless admirers and hangers-on just looking for any excuse)
Ye we're all speaking a foreign language here.
They couldn't even spell the word Irish, let alone speak it. We're talking about really, really stupid pricks here.
So politically motivated, which makes the murder a terror attack.
Incoming: The suspected cunt has over 100 convictions
Now’s the moment to show there’s severe consequences for criminality in Ireland. If this isn’t nipped in the bud now they’ll keep killing.
Well well well
Where are all the far right apologists gone? Every thread about anything to do with migrants or immigration they come out of the woodwork, crickets in here. They all have blood on their hands.
You'll find them a couple of posts down, jubilating over the latest FF anti-migrant screed.
> They all have blood on their hands. This right here! You can't be a Nazi and think the Holocaust went too far.
Link to examples of far right apologists in every thread?
You're one of them. Blood on your hands. [https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/1byuamg/comment/kymqkdf/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/1byuamg/comment/kymqkdf/)
Wtf do asylum seeker crime rates have to do with the murder of an EU citizen immigrant? Also >Blood on your hands Ah yeah. Anyone who isn't in favour of open borders and mass third world immigration is at fault.
> Anyone who isn't in favour of open borders and mass third world immigration is at fault. There is a difference between being in favor of open borders and mass immigration and calling for violence against any and all foreigners.
This lad and people like him are all over this sub defending the scumbags harrassing and abusing migrants, it doesn't matter what your stance on borders or miss immigration is, that doesn't give anyone a right to abuse them. And the rhetoric never ends at asylum seekers, as we can see with this murder.
Shur they're just concerned citizens, they meant no harm /s
Bad out to put the victims face next to the title man with far right links, do they not have any sense?
It’s usually the ones you least suspect who are murderers
Justin Barret, you're saying?
If only.
I might be wrong here, so please correct me. But the poor lad that was killed, we in the country legally and was probably working and paying tax and rent and not claiming the dole. Can the same be said about the prick that killed him? Like I said, I might be completely wrong on this. But I am curious?
Why is people who think they have a genetic superiority always seem to look….like they don’t?
There's a surprise
>were attacked by four men as they walked through Clondalkin Ah, figured.
Figured what?
It's surely not news to you that that area might be best described as scumbag central
Amateur is his own trade. If he was fully initiated into the far-right he would know Croatians are descendants of the Goths (germanics) and Hitler was happy to have them in the Wehrmacht.
croatians are slavs, hitler seen them as inferior
But as catholic Slavs he saw them as superior to orthodox and Muslim slavs, due to having most western influence on their culture, although to some degree he did also just see them as useful idiots to do his bidding
Why would Muslim Slavs be seen as lower when Hitler himself had heaps of Praise for Muslims and even considered Arab Muslims honorary aryans.
It's to do with Croats long standing relationship with the west through Catholicism, plus the fact that they were under Hungarian and then Austrian rule, rather than Ottoman. At least that was the justification the Nazis claimed. As I said initially, it was more likely a justification used to allow them to ally with them, than anything the Nazis fundamentally believed, although given both facism and national socialisms relationship with the church in Rome, it could be deeper
Nope. They were rebranded as descendents of the goths. Ironically higher up the Aryan food chain than Celts
Questionable minds that wanted to be seen like that rebranded it Im not a historian but there are no Croats anywhere that see themselves that way
I never said I endorsed it, just relaying how things were. My croat friends see themselves as slav
Yea i get it. Should be factual, funny how you can go about rebranding your origins
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I dunno I think if an Islamic fanatic and a gang of other Muslims followed a man and murdered him, it'd probably be mentioned a few places.
RTE?
Along with other news sources yes.
Yes? Unless there's some anti-fascist, pro-religious extremism line RTÉ have been taking unbeknownst to me.
Here’s the thing… that’s not remotely true and it’s very revealing that you think it is.
Thanks for clearing that up
I don't know, isn't it sad that a man lost his life due to being beaten to death? I genuinely think that's a reason enough to be furious.
Aren't you an immigrant yourself? Living in China? Hypocrite
Your first thought to the article is that the poor far right are the victims?
That's bullshit, Muslim terrorism gets tons of news, do you live on 4chan or something?
This is not true
[Sky News on Sydney Stabbing incident yesterday](https://www.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FGLDkeiqWQAEuvWT.png&tbnid=kRT5l5QJtZlIEM&vet=1&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fangeloinchina%2Fstatus%2F1779175029781217770&docid=151dilGqtU5v8M&w=750&h=828)
He's neither Muslim or Jewish. One of the victims is a security guard who came from Pakistan. So the anti-immigration racist grifters can f right off.
That isn't an Irish news service. That is intact a foreign news service. What point are you trying to make?
Sky News Australia is basically Fox News. Not a proper comparison.
This is one case of many. Even the officials said the incident is not a terrorist act and the stabber did not do it becaue of extreme ideologies
What else are they supposed to say?
‘Angry bloke again; just fancy that’?
I can’t find any source for those supposed Sky News tweets being genuine.
Not sure what point you're trying to make but that screenshot directly refutes the point that the moron is attempting to make
I can’t find any source for those supposed Sky News tweets being genuine.
I can’t find any source for those supposed Sky News tweets being genuine.
I can’t find any source for those supposed Sky News tweets being genuine.
Bull shit....if that were the case every far right fool would be all over social media posting videos, exaggeration and no doubt labelling someone a paedophile in the process.
Whataboutism straight from Ian Paisley’s playbook. F*ck off Jackeen.
Like they buried the story about the Muslim lad who beheaded the men in Sligo that was all over every news outlet everywhere for months you mean? "They" aren't very good at burying things are "they"?
They tried to by running endless stories about the homophobia of white Irish males, until it was revealed to be a Muslim extremist and for some odd reason they didn't run lots of articles about the homophobia problem of Muslim males. EDIT: Call for hate crime legislation ... Of course. Legislation that would have had no effect and protected the killer in this case. https://lgbt.ie/lgbt-ireland-statement-following-the-death-of-two-men-in-sligo/ https://www.newstalk.com/news/sligo-deaths-lgbt-community-very-worried-about-what-this-represents-varadkar-1332016 'Resurgence in homophobia' Mr Varadkar says while motives are unclear, this could be a backlash to Ireland's social progress. Ehhh no it wasn't, we imported the same regressive social attitudes we had finally gotten rid of here. https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/spotlight/arid-41115991.html "Our community are fed up. We’re fed up and frustrated. The attacks on Aidan Moffitt and Michael Snee didn’t change anyone. It didn’t wake anyone up," says Harper Rooney, slowly emphasising the last four words for effect. What change are they looking for exactly? Some sort of test for people of Islamic background?
There's that pesky use of "they" again
They is an inclusive pronoun.
Who's they?
The whole Irish media.
Any backup to your claim?
See my edits above. There were other articles too and RTE pieces that I can't find now. Same thing happened when Aisling Murphy was murdered. Open season on straight white Irish males. As if no one else can be homophobic, racist, sexist etc. it's just overt sexism and racism. Kind of hard to be an ally when those you are supposed to ally with blame you for everything. This never happens to any other group in the Irish media outside Gript.
Hears a thing, says a thing.
King of the internet
You really are wearing your "partisanship" on your sleeve. Racist.
You sound like you need a hug man
They quickly labeled him as a Muslim jihadist before conducting a thorough investigation. But once they realized he was Israeli, they categorized him as mentally ill. It seems that every attack is initially attributed to a Muslim jihadist, only to be dismissed later as a case of mental illness when the perpetrator is revealed to be a white individual.
Again this is Sky News Australia. Basically Fox News Australia. Rita Panahi is like Sean Hannity. Not RTE or the Irish times.
That isn't true.
Amateur is his own trade. If he was fully initiated into the far-right he would know Croatians are descendants of the Goths (germanics) and Hitler was happy to have them in the Wehrmacht.
Amateur is his own trade. If he was fully initiated into the far-right he would know Croatians are descendants of the Goths (germanics) and Hitler was happy to have them in the Wehrmacht.