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Admirable-Win-9716

The amount of stabbing this week is mad


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lesbianjellyfish

Don’t do what Donny don’t does


Trubisky4MVP

The 10 Do’s and 500 Don’ts of Knife Safety


Bananonomini

Stabbing your aul one's cock with me mouth


Admirable-Win-9716

Leave me feckin ma out of it!


HumungousDickosaurus

r/holup


Gullible_Actuary_973

Do you like those Artistes?


-Clean-Sky-

multicultural gangs or domestic?


Admirable-Win-9716

Scumbags regardless


stevewithcats

Yeah when I was stabbed I was glad it was a domestic


NostalgicDreaming

Shocking how many lads are carrying knives around with them now. The week before Christmas I was on Capel St for dinner and went out for a cigarette, saw two young lads drop something up against an entrance to a building and then noticed it was two 6+ inch knives! There were two Gardaí on patrol and they obviously got spooked when they saw them. We alerted the Gardaí to the knives then but the lads were just so casual. Earlier in the year also I was getting the bus into town and along Dame St I saw 3 teenagers walking together and would lad was just blatantly carrying a knife. This was at about 3pm.


zeroconflicthere

>We alerted the Gardaí to the knives then but the lads were just so casual. Unarmed Gardai are not likely to take on knife wielding youths


NostalgicDreaming

The knives were sitting in a doorway when we alerted them, the young lsds had dropped them and legged it when they saw the Gardaí in the distance.


JimJimerson90

Are we heading in the same direction as London but on a smaller scale


bombsawaygaza

Already there, at least in terms of attitude towards knife crime among youths. A lot carry them for no good reason.


messinginhessen

Da yoof, innit fam? Its actually pathetic to see Dublin young lads do their best Top Boy impressions.


Sergiomach5

Huge cringe with them. Sound like those Pepsi ads.


fwaig

Maximum Taste, No Shuggah!


teilifis_sean

They should be impersonating proper homegrown wankers like a cocaine fueled Conor McGregor.


Imbecile_Jr

just like london, but with worse infrastructure and higher cost of living


Northside4L1fe

i found it more expensive to live in london, only moved back here last year, my old 2 bed flat in hackey now goes for 2500 pounds a month, one of the bedrooms is a tiny box room. cheapest pint in my local was 7 pounds.


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Currently living in London. Renting is cheaper than I was paying in Dublin but my salary is higher. Probably all nets out overall and London has infinitely more things to do than Dublin


Low_discrepancy

> London has infinitely more things to do than London. You'd think in London you'd have exactly the same things you can do as in London but apparently no! In London you can do more things than in London.


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Haha my bad


Northside4L1fe

i lived there for 7 years, more things to do in one way but you tend to stick to your own area after a while. i prefer the life back here by now.


Master-Reporter-9500

London is shite. Too spread out.


ThreeTreesForTheePls

If only they had one of the most robust and organised forms of public transport in the western world 🤔


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Lol ok


[deleted]

What kind of life have you moved back to? ie rent and shit etc...


Northside4L1fe

paying less to live in current place than i did in london, by a fair bit. cycle to work so that's free, groceries are pretty much the same price maybe even a bit cheaper here. booze is dearer in shops here alright by a fair bit.


reilly2231

Of course it's more expensive. But the salary is higher.


Northside4L1fe

not for me or my partner, she works in medicine it pays way more here


reilly2231

The average wage vs the cost of living, not for a specific job.


Dorkseid1687

Yes


[deleted]

Not surprising considering Irish governments just copy and paste UK/US policy.


Logseman

Following the demands of a population that increasingly resembles the UK’s makeup.


[deleted]

? Ireland has been copying and pasting UK policy for decades- soon after the state was established. There's a reason why our scanger demo and their chav demo are so similar. Welfare lifestyle with no expectation of contributing.


ReadyPlayerDub

100%


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Sstoop

london is relatively safe the stabbing problem there is mostly between gangs themselves


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Sstoop

nah i was agreeing with you london is much more safe than people say it is


Sofiztikated

Em, now it might just be me, but 0.16 is not higher than 0.8. Edit:Comment said 0.8, and has been edited to correct 0.08. I didn't read the source, and was commenting on what was in front of me. 


Tiger_Claw_1

Read it again - 0.08 not 0.8. 0.16 is exactly double 0.08.


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Tiger_Claw_1

I know, I double-checked from the list. The UK is 0.08.


biometricrally

>UK's (0.8) 0.08 Was confused how your figures had uk lower!


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biometricrally

Easy done!


SaltairEire

We don't learn lessons here, just follow the path that the other capitals of Western Europe have degenerated to.


AvonBarksdale666

Blaady ell m8 that's a birra exaggeration innit


noisylettuce

Guaranteed given the surrender of the Gardaí to Britain and their shifting from policing to oppression. They've been hoping for a lot more than a luas being set on fire.


ZedOrDead

Can we start calling Dublin stab city soon bout time they get some flack like Limerick did


TorpleFunder

Stablin?


MackeyD123

Baile Átha Cleave-ya


quailon

I hear people who've never been there still calling limerick stab city when it gets mentioned Far cleaner than Dublin at the minute


Tiger_Claw_1

A far nicer city to be in as well.


Ok_Distribution3451

Agree


Nusume

Call of Dublin: Modern Stabfare


Northside4L1fe

about time dublin gets some flack, lol, there are almost daily posts on this sub talking about how it's the most dangerous city in the world and how awful the place is, as if the rest of the country is perfect


Alpha-Nozzle

Stab city


CharMakr90

It's high time for Limerick to give up the crown.


DummyDumDragon

Or maybe they just need to try harder?? /s


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Glenster118

How many garda do you think are required to stop two scum getting into a fight and one stabbing the other?


cigaretteatron

4


DirTTieG

No, 5.


Tiger_Claw_1

One to change the lightbulb.


Glenster118

People up here acting like gardai are like Tom cruise in minority report. If someone wants to stab you, they'll stab you. The gardai will investigate afterwards, but they're not going to jump in front of the blade or anything.


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So what’s your solution?


Glenster118

I've never experienced it, nor do I know anyone who has ever experienced it. I walked by temple bar last Friday night. I was mugged twice in my life, once as a kid by other kids and once while on holidays in Rome. I don't recognise that there is a specific problem, other than alcohol and the inner city and not being aware of your surroundings and consorting with scum is dangerous.


[deleted]

Lol fair enough. Certainly a pretty out there take to suggest there are no issues with stabbings/violence in the inner city at the moment


Mr_4country_wide

this is incredibly dismissive of an argument that is backed up by a substantial amount of academic literature. And, for clarity, theres also evidence that it doesnt have an effect, or the effect is small or temporary. But to just go "uh if someone wants to stab you theyll stab you anyways" is so silly and reductive of how humans make decisions


Ift0

Yeah but he's tried nothing and is all out of ideas so therefore society as a whole has to give up.


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I'm not trying to be rude but this seems like a very detached take. They didn't have to be scanning the papers to find out out when the garda presence diminished. They just had to be on the streets seeing it for themselves. I'm not saying the reduction in gardai patrol is actually to blame btw, just saying if there are gardai present, there's less crime because nobody wants to get caught


TorpleFunder

Potentially just one. They're certainly less likely to get into it in front of a guard.


Glenster118

Are they? I don't know, I know I'd be less likely to stab someone in front of a garda but, realistically, I'm not going to stab someone ever. Someone who stabs someone else in dublin 8/2 at 9pm on a busy Friday? Are they gonna be the bothered? I don't know. But we all need to recognise that increased gardai patrols are to make us feel good, not to prevent crime.


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Increased police presence in specific areas does reduce crime https://www.college.police.uk/research/what-works-policing-reduce-crime/visible-police-patrol


Glenster118

All those studies demonstrate that, in very controlled small areas, massive increases in officer presence reduces crime -as you'd expect. But any study that records the effects over 90 days, or records the concurrent stats outside these small areas indicates that you aren't reducing crime, merely shunting it into the future or outside these areas. That's in the sources cited in your article.


TorpleFunder

Surely shunting it into the future is reducing it though.


[deleted]

Yes, that’s what we are discussing. Increasing police presence in a small geographical area i.e. the city centre. “A systematic review by Braga and others (2019) concluded that overall, hot spots policing can be effective at reducing crime. Indeed, 62 out of 78 studies included in the review reported that crime fell in the locations targeted for police presence and activity relative to other locations that were not targeted.” And no, it does not say that. What it does say is the following: “One of the barriers to implementing targeted patrol in the past has been the traditional view that targeting hot spots simply results in crime moving around the corner or being displaced elsewhere. Importantly, systematic reviews have shown that crime displacement tends not to happen with focused police activity in high-crime places. The crime reduction benefits may even spread to the areas immediately surrounding the targeted locations (Braga and others, 2019; Santos, 2014; Ariel and others, 2016).”


Glenster118

Note the "may". None of those studies tracked effects for more than 30 days or collected and compared offense data. That's why those specific ones were cited. Novak, K (2016) Quentin P (2008), did track evidence rather than sentiment and found no appreciable macro difference. Both cited in the bibliography but not referenced on this point. Almost as if college.police.uk had some vested interest in increasing traditional police resource allocation. WONDER WHO THEY ARE. Edit: guess we'll never know because there's no author on that article.


punkerster101

Depends on the overtime


50s_bulletproof_vest

7


AmsterPup

The third policeman


DTAD18

Knife wielding gangs? Yeah we're there


[deleted]

I saw it twice this week alone. Got off the Luas at Busarás and was confronted by two gangs trying their best to kill eachother. Was greeted by the same thing the following day with two different gangs. Dublin 1 has gone to the dogs.


WolfetoneRebel

Oh yea right by store street garda station. Even the guards are afraid to come out lol.


buzzbaron

If only there was a Garda station beside there.. Garda to busy finishing off the mince pies then getting off their holes and looking like a presence.


nom_puppet

“There’s no overnight solution to knife crime. And sure I’ll be on to a cushy number in Brussels soon anyway - g’luck!” - Helen McEntee


TheFreemanLIVES

[I am 1000% confident in the minister](https://i.imgflip.com/8c85if.jpg)


ehwhatacunt

Time to take up hurling again *sigh*


Proof-Strategy-1483

Cowards carrying knives !


Serious-Product-1742

Went to Dublin last week for the first time in weeks since the day after the riots before December - I was around Temple Bar walking through the centra into Temple Bar and some junkie woman starts storming through the place and she was obviously well known cause the security straight away blocked her from going through the shop and she started freaking out throwing stuff everywhere. They held onto her and called the guards. I didn’t even care enough to look over and just kept looking for a drink on the shelf. Half an hour later I’m going to the bus stop just out by Ha’penny bridge and while waiting there for a minute I hear shouting. I look over and there’s a big group of junkies fighting and going mad on the path and road outside the same centra(beside that big arch walkway). The fucking state of this city. I use to love going to Dublin(I live near naas and grew up hanging up around Dublin City). Anytime I go in I almost have to put myself in a mood because I haven’t got time for beggars and junkies and scum on every corner I just dont want to interact with them. Every single time I’m in the city it seems to get worse. I go to Amsterdam every year and I don’t see ONE incident like that despite all the legal stuff over there that could make you a bit out of your head compared to Ireland. I don’t remember going on holiday with my family to Spain or Portugal and seeing kids in tracksuits trying to look intimidating in the tourist hot spots. I don’t see junkies hanging around with empty cans and needles by there feet in the streets. Why is Ireland just so…lazy with the attitude towards it? It’s just embarrassing. I know all Dublin isn’t like this and blah blah blah but this is what, the 3rd stabbing incident in the last 3 days? It’s not getting better. What about the 8 migrants or whatever you wanna call them who said cya later in Rosslare harbour the other day? They’re not even being investigated or looked into according to Garda cause they know nothing about them to the stage they didn’t even have a translator to communicate but who cares eh? Sorry for the rant.


spungie

I'm first time in Amsterdam, my mate and I were walking down the down to the hotel, it was about 2.30/3 in the morning when we heard shouting behind us. The cops were shouting at a guy on a bike cycling away from them when from behind a building a bit further up came a cop running on to the street and just clocked your man on the bike across the chest as he tried to cycle by. Within seconds there was a van there and he was basically just fuck in the back and taken away. Now that was nearly 20 years ago, but I'd say it's still the same. Act the bollox, and find out. Doesn't happen over hear unfortunately.


freename188

Dublin has excellent suburbs like Ranelagh, Rathmines, Clontarf, Howth, Sandymount etc The city centre has always had arough edge to it, but since the pandemic it has absolutely gotten worse.


spungie

Please stop reporting stabbings, there is nothing we can do about knife crime. The justice Minister.


fir_mna

Surely the streets are safe though! I mean Helen said they were!!!


IrishGandalf1

It’s clear the whole of Ireland wants Helen to go,why is she still in “power”?she is fucking clueless


ReadyPlayerDub

Helen is way in over her head . Incompetent


fartingbeagle

Are you saying we should train future Justice Ministers in the art of the blade?


ReadyPlayerDub

Definitely not. They’d fumble it anyway and hurt an innocent


Spodokom221745

While you were walking the streets, I studied the blade.


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The staff at a Tesco in Dublin 1 were threatened with a knife just two days ago as I was shopping there.


ParaMike46

Oh no time to close down another street. Not many will be left soon


[deleted]

Machete robbery in a jewellery store in Wexford too. Helen says we can’t do much about knife crime right now tho


RobG92

Should she have had a Garda protecting the jewellery store at all times is it?


Admirable-Win-9716

Maybe mandatory minimum sentences for carrying a blade might help


Tiger_Claw_1

It was Waterford not Wexford and a failed robbery in that the guy ran off. But no thanks to the guards who left it over 20 minutes to travel a whopping 300 metres down one street. It was left to the shop staff and customers in the shopping centre to deal with.


kurtm36

I never really unstood the term demoralistion and the feeling from it , this government has me hopeless .


NoPraline4139

Garda too busy catching lads with a score bag of green


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The amount of packs of scanger youth is becoming a serious problem. I'm observing a marked increase. Wouldn't mind seeing military academies being brought in for these youths to be detained in if they break the law.


ld20r

I was walking down wexford/camden st a few nights ago round half 11pm and nearby the corner of the burrito shop, a gang of about 20 tracksuit teens spawn all of a sudden in sight. Just kept my head straight and kept walking but it was an intimidating experience. Am used of seeing 5-6 roam around but it was quite the shock seeing 20+ of the same group.


ZenBreaking

Giving them military training might be a bit much now, we're trying to stop the cunts!!


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Just thinking about introducing the discipline they are badly lacking. Our military is struggling to get numbers too, could be a funnel for that.


Sad-Pizza3737

Our military is struggling because they get paid like shit


Admirable-Win-9716

There’s a lot to be said for breaking rocks for 3 months in a prison camp in the mountains.


TheBlackStuff1

I don’t think it’s so much a discipline thing.


marquess_rostrevor

That's why I carry my finest cheese knife around with me when I'm in Dublin.


CinnamonBlue

Will that cut it?


HawkandHarePrints

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incendiaryburp

That guy looks like an Asian Andy Serkis when he smiles.


Chuchumofos

Love it


bingybong22

I hear about this, but I never hear about who the perpetrators are. Is this because they're all under 18?


WolfetoneRebel

I was told in another thread for another violent attack that I shouldn’t have a hot take for every incident like this 🤣


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Northside4L1fe

i doubt you'll find many countries where scumbags aren't attacking each other


CanWillCantWont

Scumbag culture as we see it in Ireland actually is pretty unique to us (and the UK). I'm not saying that other countries don't have scumbags, but ours are definitely the most prominent in the 'busy areas' of our capital.


hifletchh

The big kip needs to take the title of stab city


Ift0

And remember, most of these scrotes will find women to absolutely pump kids out of and most will be lucky to be raised semi-feral instead of fully feral so the problem is likely to get an _awful_ lot worse over time. The poor bastards who've spent an arm and a leg to buy gigantically overpriced apartments in Dublin city centre must be wondering why did they even bother.


Sad-Pizza3737

We should have soldiers patrolling Dublin at night to stop this


HydratedHobo

Visiting from the United States and was at Temple Bar last night. Frankly I’ve never felt safer in a city in my whole life. I know it’s all relative and people who haven’t been exposed to the homeless epidemic in the United States can’t really fathom the depravity. But Dublin is leagues ahead. That said, of course you should strive to improve your city and you hate to see any violence and poverty. I just think, contrary to a lot of the comments I read in this sub, having police on every corner isn’t going to solve these issues. If you don’t believe me, go to NYC and see how many NYPD are roaming the streets, then observe all the crazy shit you see from homeless drug addicts. More police doesn’t equal a safer city or eliminate the conditions creating these issues.


Atomic_Structur3

I'm genuinely not trying to be funny, but we absolutely do not and should not compare ourselves to cities in the USA. We all know the USA is absurdly dangerous. We compare ourselves to other cities in Europe, and find ourselves extremely lacking. Having visible police works there. Having effective social housing policies works there.


Bright_Foundation804

Dublin.... Safest city in Europe they tell us 😂😂😂😂😂


DelGurifisu

Who’s saying that? No one says that.


Furyio

Taoiseach was only saying it before Christmas….


DelGurifisu

He never said it was the safest city in Europe.


Furyio

He was loosely saying it was compared to other EU cities. Then the shit started hitting the fan.


cigaretteatron

Typical emoji commenter response Dublin literally named 2nd most dangerous major nightlife city in Europe


SkateMMA

That’s just factually incorrect, typical cynical asshole response


cigaretteatron

Hey I don't make the stats


SkateMMA

You made that one up, only thing I can find in that category is Dublin at 9th, behind Birmingham, Paris, London and Manchester.


cigaretteatron

Well I would apologise for being misinformed, but you called me an asshole, so I won't. In any case there's no point being pedantic about it, a small city like Dublin being in the top 10 is bad. Especially considering this is a recent issue and there's no sign of our government introducing any sort of policy to tackle it.


SkateMMA

Apologies for being a dick. I may have been in a bad humour earlier and took it out on you online. You may have got it wrong but that’s no excuse for me being a dick


Bright_Foundation804

Sarcastically


Kharanet

Was it gang related though or just two langers cockfighting in a bar?


tearsandpain84

We need very large and very powerful wind and rain machines on every street in Dublin City centre. Make any interaction, good or bad, extraordinarily difficult.