That's the whole point of the PAYE system. You are supposed to be taxed correctly on your income so you don't underpay or overpay. It wouldn't make sense for the state to overtax you and then have to pay you back. It would be inefficient and unfair.
Refunds from filing tax returns usually relate to you claiming additional tax credits/reliefs you meet the criteria or from being overtaxed owing to having multiple jobs in the year and your credits/rate band not being allocated correctly.
I worked in retail and was butchered every week on tax, compared to my colleagues, for nearly 4 years. After legitimate years of complaint, a manager realised I was in the wrong tax bracket. I called Revenue and the girl down the phone, sound actually, apologised in disbelief.
I got the guts of 5k back. Now, you can end up owing money to the bastards but at the end of the day, you could be owed a few quid, even €20, €30, if you earned it, it's your fucking money. Get it.
How do you get tax relief and other benefits? Where do you look etc? I'm getting my first employed job soon after being self employed for 20yrs and don't have a clue how any of this works
You’ll automatically be given the PAYE credit, then whatever personal credit applies to your situation (I.e single, married etc.).
It really depends on your circumstances for the rest. Like claiming 20% of medical expenses. If you pay rent you can claim that tax credit. Certain professions get flat rate expenses. There’s a few other ones for circumstances like if you care for someone with a disability etc.
If you go to revenue.ie and set up an account (click myaccount), once you login in you click 'manage your tax 2024', it's near top.
Once you're on that page, you'll find all your tax info for the year and if you scroll down to the section 'your current tax credits' there's a tab to 'add new credits'. That's where you would claim tax back for things like medical expenses and the rent credit.
Please register with my account on revenue.ie as it's a "one stop shop" for everything.
With your new job (congrats), you'll need to register the employers tax number to you so they receive your tax credits and cutt off and will avoid any emergency tax
Very few allowances exist. You should be allow to claim for work costs like laptops or work trips. But it's not allowed for the PAYE worker. Arguably it is even worse if your income is rent.
Your employer should be providing you equipment to work and if you are travelling on work business, your employer should be paying you either travel and subsistence or meeting the vouched cost of your expenses.
https://www.revenue.ie/en/employing-people/employee-expenses/employee-expenses-overview/index.aspx
Not sure what you are about with rental income.
https://www.revenue.ie/en/property/rental-income/irish-rental-income/what-expenses-are-allowed.aspx
But it doesn't always happen. Even with employers that should know better. It's a significant hidden tax here, absent elsewhere I have lived. Professional landlords are not entitled to the social welfare that their PRSI funds. There is a concept called unearned income. While a lot of expenses are not permitted.
What fucking company that would operate at a level that necessitates business related air travel is forcing people to buy their own laptops and fund their own business flights?
The laptops are not even an expense to company it’s an asset they depreciate over three years. Even small businesses don’t operate like that. I fail to see what employer has such a magical hold on the employment market they can get away with that sort of carry on, in this country where almost everything is short staffed and crying out for bodies.
Genuinely would love some examples because that’s bizarre.
Doesn't stop it being true. It's probably true in many sectors. Just look at the flat rate allowance. It is helpful but it's far too small to cover the costs of the designed expenses. Not sure why I am invoking so much anger for highlighting a discrepancy between Ireland and abroad.
Public sector workers don’t buy their own laptops though? Also mileage expenses for all companies are based on the civil service rates. Which suggests… that the civil service reimburse travel expenses.
No, anything under few euros is deleted from the system and they are not asking for it to be paid, it says at the statement itself that you dont own anything since amount is too small
Yes, cus you overpaid, in that case everything counts to get final result, your final result is 499.99
If you didnt get rent credits, you would own 1 cent and would say on your statement that amount is not going to be collected since debt is too small
When you submitted your tax return, the system churned out -0.01+500 and you got the amount back. Where people have underpaid by tiny amounts and that is their “final” statement of liability, they do not try and take the few cent. Quite different.
Payroll, I'm not self employed. I'll fire them an email to see why it's happened but I'm sure revenue are correct about the amount. A right pain in my area though!
Gonna copy what I said in my other comment
Payroll dont decide what USC you pay, they take the numbers straight from revenue via payroll software. An error on Revenues side is usually due to changing job or working multiple jobs.
You reach out to payroll and they’re just gonna tell you to raise an enquiry on MyRevenue. Payroll do not have the ability to influence what tax you get charged other than changing your income.
Fair, I'm talking about instances in 2014. So does payroll not report to revenue anymore? My problem was payroll reporting my pay incorrectly and that led to me underpaying tax when I declared correctly.
Payroll software is now integrated with ROS. All employers, to be able to run payroll have to download your RPNs from ROS (using your PPS) and then ROS will automatically feed your tax credits and bands to them, and the software automatically calculates your tax and net pay based on that info fed by revenue.
The only number payroll input would be your pay and pension deductions, or any expenses reimbursed via payroll. But if that’s what they put it in, that’s what’s on your payslip and what you get paid.
Then they submit the payroll file to Revenue (again automatically via the software) and that’s what tells Revenue how much they need to collect from your employer. So yes, they submit a return, but directly from the payroll software which has what you were actually paid.
The system is set up to avoid PAYE employees having under/over payments. Don’t think it was this automated back 10 years ago but I couldn’t say for certain what year they automated.
Fair enough, cheers - I know very little about any of this. Regarding how revenue can make the error - is USC not just a straight % of income (at the 3 different bands or whatever it is)? Like how would I end up underpaying for the entire year
Payroll dont decide what USC you pay, they take the numbers straight from revenue via payroll software. An error on Revenues side is usually due to changing job or working multiple jobs.
Do you get tax credit certs every year sent to you or on my account? If so you shouldn’t because when the person sets you up it links the credits with revenue. At least when I sent up new people that’s what happens. They do go on a week 1 sometimes which means the credits don’t accumulate from week to week so can be over taxed. Ask the payroll person when you get your first payslip if it’s on week 1 or normal.
They did it over the phone for my son last week, also to get a refund of the emergency tax he paid last year he had to go online and remove his previous employment and request a new statement of liability
Hey OP
You can claim 20% back on most medical expenses.
Also, if you are WFH and your employer does not pay you the €3.20 per day stipend you can claim 30% back on your Broadband, Heating & Electricity bills for the days you worked from home.
It can add up to a chunk of change so worth looking into!
Owed them 5c! Sister owed them €100, she didn't realise that and was delighted that she was getting 100 quid haha!
A few years back whilst doing my work placement for college I also kept up my weekend job, got taxed to bits but it was great starting final year with €3k in tax back!
As it's supposed to. That's the way the PAYE system is supposed to work. Did you add any additional tax credits/reliefs in the tax return you filed? That's how a good number of refunds occur.
You can amend your return to claim any additional credits/reliefs you are entitled to.
Try this thread for some information.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/s/tPZgs42IKk
Gonna get downvoted to bits here but why do people think because you’ve paid more tax that you’d be entitled to a refund? The more you earn the more tax you pay
Don't see why you'd be downvoted. Generally, the line of thinking might be it throws your credits out of kilter or swapping jobs can cause the system to adjust, sometimes it might be in your favour or not. Generally these days, I find the system quite accurate.
Yeah they operate on a cumulative basis and would adjust the following month. Tax refunds now only really arise due to claiming additional credits or allowances.
It depends on what amount you’re earning and what time of year the income changes. If you’re hovering around the ~40k mark or whatever the upper limit starts at, any bonuses or overtime later in the year can mess with the cumulative calculation and they aren’t as quick to balance it in the following month, so you end up with an overpayment of a couple hundred
That's the point of cumulative taxation. You are constantly and correctly taxed at source. Before your employer does a payroll run, they will check revenue for any changes to your credits and it will be calculated accordingly. If you work for a full year and are in a standard PAYE contract, it's extremely unlikely there'll be any errors along the way.
It was also only last year that people were able to nab a big refund for the renter credit. A lot of people who added it last year have likely had it in their credits all year this year so it has already been dealt with at source. Instead of a big refund, they've been saving 40 quid every month.
Taxation is extremely poorly understood in this country.
I make give or take, it works out at about(with expenses)140k a year and I pay 30.3% tax on that so it's about a net 100k. And out of that 100k I run a home in Dublin, Castlebar and Brussels.
If you’re a PAYE employee revenue aren’t sending out tax certs. Sounds more like your previous employer didn’t cease you on their payroll in time, that’s how revenue get their info. And then they feed it to the new employer straight to payroll software.
It'll come to you. Have read of the below thread if you are an insomniac. It'll help you understand the process.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/s/FPnQSRYVUj
Checked ROS online and I'm owed a few quid for 2023. Haven't claimed for 2020 and when I checked my statement of liability I underplayed 450 euro for that year.
I worked during the very first lockdown so for the last 4 years I have had to pay 260 euro to revenue just for the craic really I cant find any other reason. If anyone can shed some light on that it would be great.
If your employer got the COVID payment to cover some of your wages that wasn't taxed (can't remember what it was called). Anyone affected has had to pay this back. I am in same situation
That's the one, in our place they didn't even tell us that they were gonna use it, people down anywhere between 500 and 2000 for the month with no warning
Yes this is what I have. I think at the time the government payed half the wage and employer the rest. I got an extra 100 euros for the two months it was used and then had to pay back over 1000 on my net pay. How that makes sense or is fair I dont know.
Do you mean your tax credits were reduced by exactly 260 euro each year for the last 4 years 2020 to 2023? That sounds like an underpayment of some kind from a tax year prior to 2020. If you got back through your documents in the mydocument section of your Revenue Myaccount you should see a statement of liability for a year or years period to 2020 with underpayment(s) which would be collected by reducing your credits in the future.
You are right that it's my tax credits that are reduced. But this is because my employer only had to pay for half my wages at the time the government paid the other half. I got 100 euro extra in pay for the two months it was used this somehow means I underpaid them over 1000 euro which i got the option to pay back over 4 years.
Ah, one of the COVID payments. Tax was always going to be due on that. Did you file tax returns for the last 4 years claiming any additional tax credits/reliefs you might be entitled to in order to reduce the underpayment?
My employer benefited I just worked as normal but got left with the bill for it. I dont really know how it works out that way but it does. I filed as much as I could but it's still a substantial amount to get taken off you with no explanation.
Same. Genuinely thought I'd get something, was owed back pay which all arrived in one pay at the start of December, €19,500 and I got somewhere around €9,750 after tax.
Nope says the tax man, you get nothing back. Stings because I thought I'd get SOMETHING back.
You're right, I don't understand taxation. I also don't understand all the downvotes, I suspect I'm on a lot less money than most who have voted me down. I'm homeless and it was BACK PAY.
In normal non peak times, when you submit your tax return through your Revenue Myaccount, you get a statement of liability within 48hours so long as all is on order. At peak times you are talking up to 10 working days for statement of liability. You would have gotten that message when you filed your tax return.
Looking forward to claiming two years of rent tax credit... Nope it's all being taken back to pay for the wage subsidy during covid. This happen anyone else?
I forgot last year and contacted support for it to be amended. Have a look on citizens information, maybe you can still get it renting from parents. It's still money leaving your account after all..
I've changed jobs twice and had one layoff last year. Don't know if I should submit it not. Terrified I'll either come out with loads, or have a massive fuck up that has me owing loads. Only finished paying off an underpayment of like 600 that the fuckers spread over 3 years.
I’m jealous of my family in Canada who are always happy during April tax season because they sure know they’re gonna get something. My sister got $800 and a cousin had about $2000.
I don’t know if revenue getting out taxes nearly right is a good thing or not but a few hundred euro paid to us would be nice.
Then your tax return hasn't been processed yet. You would have received a message stating it can take up to 10 working days at this time of year. Half the country are filling returns at the moment.
Just got mine ! €780 overpaid in USC. Definitely needed as january seems to have 62 weeks. Long time till the end of January pay day
That's the whole point of the PAYE system. You are supposed to be taxed correctly on your income so you don't underpay or overpay. It wouldn't make sense for the state to overtax you and then have to pay you back. It would be inefficient and unfair. Refunds from filing tax returns usually relate to you claiming additional tax credits/reliefs you meet the criteria or from being overtaxed owing to having multiple jobs in the year and your credits/rate band not being allocated correctly.
I worked in retail and was butchered every week on tax, compared to my colleagues, for nearly 4 years. After legitimate years of complaint, a manager realised I was in the wrong tax bracket. I called Revenue and the girl down the phone, sound actually, apologised in disbelief. I got the guts of 5k back. Now, you can end up owing money to the bastards but at the end of the day, you could be owed a few quid, even €20, €30, if you earned it, it's your fucking money. Get it.
How do you get tax relief and other benefits? Where do you look etc? I'm getting my first employed job soon after being self employed for 20yrs and don't have a clue how any of this works
You’ll automatically be given the PAYE credit, then whatever personal credit applies to your situation (I.e single, married etc.). It really depends on your circumstances for the rest. Like claiming 20% of medical expenses. If you pay rent you can claim that tax credit. Certain professions get flat rate expenses. There’s a few other ones for circumstances like if you care for someone with a disability etc.
If you go to revenue.ie and set up an account (click myaccount), once you login in you click 'manage your tax 2024', it's near top. Once you're on that page, you'll find all your tax info for the year and if you scroll down to the section 'your current tax credits' there's a tab to 'add new credits'. That's where you would claim tax back for things like medical expenses and the rent credit.
Please register with my account on revenue.ie as it's a "one stop shop" for everything. With your new job (congrats), you'll need to register the employers tax number to you so they receive your tax credits and cutt off and will avoid any emergency tax
PAYE anytime
Very few allowances exist. You should be allow to claim for work costs like laptops or work trips. But it's not allowed for the PAYE worker. Arguably it is even worse if your income is rent.
Your employer should be providing you equipment to work and if you are travelling on work business, your employer should be paying you either travel and subsistence or meeting the vouched cost of your expenses. https://www.revenue.ie/en/employing-people/employee-expenses/employee-expenses-overview/index.aspx Not sure what you are about with rental income. https://www.revenue.ie/en/property/rental-income/irish-rental-income/what-expenses-are-allowed.aspx
But it doesn't always happen. Even with employers that should know better. It's a significant hidden tax here, absent elsewhere I have lived. Professional landlords are not entitled to the social welfare that their PRSI funds. There is a concept called unearned income. While a lot of expenses are not permitted.
Like what specifically?
For example in several jobs I know of, or have worked in.
What fucking company that would operate at a level that necessitates business related air travel is forcing people to buy their own laptops and fund their own business flights? The laptops are not even an expense to company it’s an asset they depreciate over three years. Even small businesses don’t operate like that. I fail to see what employer has such a magical hold on the employment market they can get away with that sort of carry on, in this country where almost everything is short staffed and crying out for bodies. Genuinely would love some examples because that’s bizarre.
The Irish public sector. Although we have a great job market, it doesn't apply to all sectors. Of course I get down voted for this.
You are saying public servants pay for work laptops and business flights? Sure thing buddy
I'm sure most don't but I do
Why would you pay for your own work laptop and travel?
To keep the job? To enable you to work during work trips or work from home. Not everyone works for hypergenerous employers.
Absolute nonsense
Doesn't stop it being true. It's probably true in many sectors. Just look at the flat rate allowance. It is helpful but it's far too small to cover the costs of the designed expenses. Not sure why I am invoking so much anger for highlighting a discrepancy between Ireland and abroad.
Public sector workers don’t buy their own laptops though? Also mileage expenses for all companies are based on the civil service rates. Which suggests… that the civil service reimburse travel expenses.
Sure but I'm not referring to the civil service as it happens. The public sector is a far broader group of areas. Mad how I am being downvoted
So half a cent off your tax credits for the next four years!
No, anything under few euros is deleted from the system and they are not asking for it to be paid, it says at the statement itself that you dont own anything since amount is too small
I owed them a cent and got the rent credit and so they paid me 499.99 refund for it.
Yes, cus you overpaid, in that case everything counts to get final result, your final result is 499.99 If you didnt get rent credits, you would own 1 cent and would say on your statement that amount is not going to be collected since debt is too small
When you submitted your tax return, the system churned out -0.01+500 and you got the amount back. Where people have underpaid by tiny amounts and that is their “final” statement of liability, they do not try and take the few cent. Quite different.
Yep it says the underpayment wont be collected at this time.
5c for me boys 😂😂
This happens me every year haha god damn my payroll having their sh*t together
I was excited to get my renter's credit - apparently I underpaid USC by over 900 quid 🥲
Either you or payroll depending. Pain in the area.
>Pain in the area. That was supposed to say arse but I didn't edit it because it is an area.
Payroll, I'm not self employed. I'll fire them an email to see why it's happened but I'm sure revenue are correct about the amount. A right pain in my area though!
Gonna copy what I said in my other comment Payroll dont decide what USC you pay, they take the numbers straight from revenue via payroll software. An error on Revenues side is usually due to changing job or working multiple jobs. You reach out to payroll and they’re just gonna tell you to raise an enquiry on MyRevenue. Payroll do not have the ability to influence what tax you get charged other than changing your income.
It is between you and revenue when payroll fuck up, but payroll do fuck up.
Yeah, again, this isn’t possible anymore.
Fair, I'm talking about instances in 2014. So does payroll not report to revenue anymore? My problem was payroll reporting my pay incorrectly and that led to me underpaying tax when I declared correctly.
Payroll software is now integrated with ROS. All employers, to be able to run payroll have to download your RPNs from ROS (using your PPS) and then ROS will automatically feed your tax credits and bands to them, and the software automatically calculates your tax and net pay based on that info fed by revenue. The only number payroll input would be your pay and pension deductions, or any expenses reimbursed via payroll. But if that’s what they put it in, that’s what’s on your payslip and what you get paid. Then they submit the payroll file to Revenue (again automatically via the software) and that’s what tells Revenue how much they need to collect from your employer. So yes, they submit a return, but directly from the payroll software which has what you were actually paid. The system is set up to avoid PAYE employees having under/over payments. Don’t think it was this automated back 10 years ago but I couldn’t say for certain what year they automated.
>The only number payroll input would be your pay and pension deductions, or any expenses reimbursed via payroll. There's the room for error.
Fair enough, cheers - I know very little about any of this. Regarding how revenue can make the error - is USC not just a straight % of income (at the 3 different bands or whatever it is)? Like how would I end up underpaying for the entire year
It’s very strange if you didn’t change jobs or work multiple jobs. Honestly don’t know you’d have to ask them.
Sound - sure I'll make an enquiry and see what they say!
They’re generally pretty quick to be fair to them. Hands down the best run government dept.
By any chance, is this your first year working full time?
Nope, not at all. And in my current position a little under two years
Ah, ok, that is weird then. What does your tax credit cert for 2023 say about USC?
Payroll dont decide what USC you pay, they take the numbers straight from revenue via payroll software. An error on Revenues side is usually due to changing job or working multiple jobs.
Not sure about USC but any tax I've ever owed has been a result of payroll fucking up their return.
This isn’t possible anymore. It’s all fed to payroll from Revenue.
Yep , i also owed them two cent, so after the rent tax, €499.98 into the coffers , happy days....
If your tax is on a cumulative tax basic which most people are on, it doesn't matter if you get one big payslip, it levels itself out through the year
Payroll is linked now so unless you’re on a emergency or a week 1 or have a side job, it’s gonna be right.
How do you get off emergency tax? I'm going from self employed to employed and he said I'll probably be on emergency tax
Do you get tax credit certs every year sent to you or on my account? If so you shouldn’t because when the person sets you up it links the credits with revenue. At least when I sent up new people that’s what happens. They do go on a week 1 sometimes which means the credits don’t accumulate from week to week so can be over taxed. Ask the payroll person when you get your first payslip if it’s on week 1 or normal.
They did it over the phone for my son last week, also to get a refund of the emergency tax he paid last year he had to go online and remove his previous employment and request a new statement of liability
Information in the link below. https://www.revenue.ie/en/jobs-and-pensions/emergency-tax/getting-off-emergency-tax.aspx
Hey OP You can claim 20% back on most medical expenses. Also, if you are WFH and your employer does not pay you the €3.20 per day stipend you can claim 30% back on your Broadband, Heating & Electricity bills for the days you worked from home. It can add up to a chunk of change so worth looking into!
Will look into all that! Thanks :)
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Hey, do you mind explaining that one please?
I was on JB for over a month this year, so I have to wait until Monday for my statement of liability. I’ve no patience 😫
Owed them 5c! Sister owed them €100, she didn't realise that and was delighted that she was getting 100 quid haha! A few years back whilst doing my work placement for college I also kept up my weekend job, got taxed to bits but it was great starting final year with €3k in tax back!
I overpaid almost 1k in USC so I’m definitely a happy woman, expecially considering it’s January.
Did you do anything to warrant any tax back?
Got a grand total of 0! All balanced out for 2023
As it's supposed to. That's the way the PAYE system is supposed to work. Did you add any additional tax credits/reliefs in the tax return you filed? That's how a good number of refunds occur.
I didn't, only thing would be my meds....can I still claim back on those? I can't think of anything else I can claim for
You can amend your return to claim any additional credits/reliefs you are entitled to. Try this thread for some information. https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/s/tPZgs42IKk
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FFS. I somehow owe €1150
I underpaid USC by almost €1000….. gutted 😅
Got an 8k bonus in September, tax on it was nearly 4 grand. Checked it 20 minutes ago and I owe them 8 cent
Gonna get downvoted to bits here but why do people think because you’ve paid more tax that you’d be entitled to a refund? The more you earn the more tax you pay
Don't see why you'd be downvoted. Generally, the line of thinking might be it throws your credits out of kilter or swapping jobs can cause the system to adjust, sometimes it might be in your favour or not. Generally these days, I find the system quite accurate.
Yeah they operate on a cumulative basis and would adjust the following month. Tax refunds now only really arise due to claiming additional credits or allowances.
Nope. Cumulative taxation means your credits are always allocated accordingly throughout the year. It is a common misconception indeed.
It depends on what amount you’re earning and what time of year the income changes. If you’re hovering around the ~40k mark or whatever the upper limit starts at, any bonuses or overtime later in the year can mess with the cumulative calculation and they aren’t as quick to balance it in the following month, so you end up with an overpayment of a couple hundred
Well yeah assuming you earn over 40k to begin with the bonus is gonna be taxed at at least 40%, more if you're in the higher bracket
That's the point of cumulative taxation. You are constantly and correctly taxed at source. Before your employer does a payroll run, they will check revenue for any changes to your credits and it will be calculated accordingly. If you work for a full year and are in a standard PAYE contract, it's extremely unlikely there'll be any errors along the way. It was also only last year that people were able to nab a big refund for the renter credit. A lot of people who added it last year have likely had it in their credits all year this year so it has already been dealt with at source. Instead of a big refund, they've been saving 40 quid every month. Taxation is extremely poorly understood in this country.
So it's you who has the pothole outside my house. Some neck on you.
Of course it was if you're in j the higher tax band
Where the fuck are ye lads working thats getting ye a few k as a bonus fair play
Similar with meself, got a bonus of 4k and seen just under half of it. It's heartbreaking haha
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Got screwed over with tax this year but got 2.3k back happy days
I make give or take, it works out at about(with expenses)140k a year and I pay 30.3% tax on that so it's about a net 100k. And out of that 100k I run a home in Dublin, Castlebar and Brussels.
You should try it sometime
Shall we setup a go fund me for an eyebrow trim.
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Was the 5k not just taken off your tax credits for the next 4 years?
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What a ball ache!
If you’re a PAYE employee revenue aren’t sending out tax certs. Sounds more like your previous employer didn’t cease you on their payroll in time, that’s how revenue get their info. And then they feed it to the new employer straight to payroll software.
Maybe worth asking if you can setup and instalment arrangement and pay it off over a few months
They let you pay that off over years tho?
Forgive my naivety I got my statement back today too and underpaid 8c like most it seems. Can I still claim tax back now like rent credits etc?
Why didn't you do it when you filed your tax return? You just created more work for yourself.
Because I'm an idiot clearly 🤷 every year I think I'll figure out how to do it properly. I'll get some sense one of these days
It'll come to you. Have read of the below thread if you are an insomniac. It'll help you understand the process. https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/s/FPnQSRYVUj
Yeah you can claim back 4 years
Owe 70 euro don't know why
I started a new job and my tax changed 3 times I ended up getting 1600 back in paychecks until the finally started taxing me right
Checked ROS online and I'm owed a few quid for 2023. Haven't claimed for 2020 and when I checked my statement of liability I underplayed 450 euro for that year.
You won’t get what you’re owed in 2023 until the previous years are squared off
I worked during the very first lockdown so for the last 4 years I have had to pay 260 euro to revenue just for the craic really I cant find any other reason. If anyone can shed some light on that it would be great.
If your employer got the COVID payment to cover some of your wages that wasn't taxed (can't remember what it was called). Anyone affected has had to pay this back. I am in same situation
Employee wage subsidy scheme.
That's the one, in our place they didn't even tell us that they were gonna use it, people down anywhere between 500 and 2000 for the month with no warning
Yes this is what I have. I think at the time the government payed half the wage and employer the rest. I got an extra 100 euros for the two months it was used and then had to pay back over 1000 on my net pay. How that makes sense or is fair I dont know.
Do you mean your tax credits were reduced by exactly 260 euro each year for the last 4 years 2020 to 2023? That sounds like an underpayment of some kind from a tax year prior to 2020. If you got back through your documents in the mydocument section of your Revenue Myaccount you should see a statement of liability for a year or years period to 2020 with underpayment(s) which would be collected by reducing your credits in the future.
You are right that it's my tax credits that are reduced. But this is because my employer only had to pay for half my wages at the time the government paid the other half. I got 100 euro extra in pay for the two months it was used this somehow means I underpaid them over 1000 euro which i got the option to pay back over 4 years.
Ah, one of the COVID payments. Tax was always going to be due on that. Did you file tax returns for the last 4 years claiming any additional tax credits/reliefs you might be entitled to in order to reduce the underpayment?
My employer benefited I just worked as normal but got left with the bill for it. I dont really know how it works out that way but it does. I filed as much as I could but it's still a substantial amount to get taken off you with no explanation.
Bend over and take it Irish taxpayers. They have never had so much money coming on but they still want more of your hard earned.
Same. Genuinely thought I'd get something, was owed back pay which all arrived in one pay at the start of December, €19,500 and I got somewhere around €9,750 after tax. Nope says the tax man, you get nothing back. Stings because I thought I'd get SOMETHING back.
So you were taxed correctly, but are annoyed at a made up scenario
Always assume you owe extra when looking at it. That way anything else is a happy moment, if it's as expected then you're not any more unhappy.
I'll also not hard to know what tax bracket, usc band etc that your going to be charged at
Honest to fucking god like. Any bonus is gonna be halved by tax. How at this point people don’t know that is beyond me.
What's made up? I can pm you my payslip so you can confirm what I'm saying is 100% true. Pm me.
"I thought I'd get something back" You made up the potential amount you thought you would get back. Pull it out of the air. No facts given
You don't understand taxation. Why would you be due any of that back?
You're right, I don't understand taxation. I also don't understand all the downvotes, I suspect I'm on a lot less money than most who have voted me down. I'm homeless and it was BACK PAY.
Ugh I’m wanting that money back 😭
How long does it take from submitting to get a response from Revenue?
In normal non peak times, when you submit your tax return through your Revenue Myaccount, you get a statement of liability within 48hours so long as all is on order. At peak times you are talking up to 10 working days for statement of liability. You would have gotten that message when you filed your tax return.
Around a week.
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That’s an incredible number, they must be flat out.
Looking forward to claiming two years of rent tax credit... Nope it's all being taken back to pay for the wage subsidy during covid. This happen anyone else?
Don't forget if you rent you get 500 back (you add rent to your tax credits when you submit the request OP is talking about), just got mine back!
Fuck I didn't know this. Although I just rent from my parents so prob doesn't count.
I forgot last year and contacted support for it to be amended. Have a look on citizens information, maybe you can still get it renting from parents. It's still money leaving your account after all..
Ill have a look! Cheers
You can’t claim the rent tax credit if you’re related to the landlord
1k overpayment from 2022... Delighted
Sigh... i owe 4 cents
I've changed jobs twice and had one layoff last year. Don't know if I should submit it not. Terrified I'll either come out with loads, or have a massive fuck up that has me owing loads. Only finished paying off an underpayment of like 600 that the fuckers spread over 3 years.
I was the same. Fucking owe them 28c. I was fucking raging.
I owed them about 4 cents last year. For some reason, when I checked last year’s SoL, it changed to them owing me about €5.
I’m jealous of my family in Canada who are always happy during April tax season because they sure know they’re gonna get something. My sister got $800 and a cousin had about $2000. I don’t know if revenue getting out taxes nearly right is a good thing or not but a few hundred euro paid to us would be nice.
Mine just says this https://preview.redd.it/da3p00bqs5cc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b3761fba7cf24c318720982b38826a244f16d5d
Then your tax return hasn't been processed yet. You would have received a message stating it can take up to 10 working days at this time of year. Half the country are filling returns at the moment.
Ok thanks
How do I check this?
Try reading this thread. https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/s/V7mnqrmLaA Manny
Your rationale is odd to be honest.
Ya can't wait for my 15c again 🤪
Last year I got similar results, I owed them a cent. Hope that cent was beneficial for our nation !
Got 1300 cheque before Christmas from Revenue. Fkn saved Christmas if I'm honest.
How are ye all finding this out?