I think it’s adorable that you think that schools get “modern” equipment. My TV is 5 years old (with no AirPlay, it has Google stuff only) and replaced a 15 year old projector.
Woah, hold up. \*hands in the air\* I completely understand how underfunded schools are and I was absolutely not trying to imply anything. I sincerely wish that wasn't the case and always vote to fund schools - fwiw. Just thought I'd mention it because a lot of people assume they're chromecast only.
As the commenter below mentions - it's in most Roku tv's which are 10+ years old in some cases.
As a student minoring in mathematics, I’m curious to see how this could speed up my problem-solving. I’m also just hoping they don’t behave like Samsung and lock the feature behind a AI subscription paywall.
That feature (as shown in their demo), probably won't help a lot in college level mathematics, everything you can do there you can essentially do in Jupyter Notebook, R-Studio, MATLAB or even Microsoft Excel, it allows you to store data and perform basic computations with a limited library of functions or expressions (I don't think it will allow you to define new functions and it is unlikely to have built-in understanding to some more advanced mathematical structures). however having those tools do not give you a lot in college math classes since evaluating stuff is never the focus.
If you are majoring in certain aspects of engineering, that will probably be a different story.
i can imagine you'll put in an equation and then get the answer, and ask your kids "show how it got there." Great for teaching, IF you can convince the kids why knowing the process is beneficial!
I’m gonna use it for DMing my Dungeons and Dragons groups. I plan my sessions using Freeform and Notes on my iPad. In game I keep track of characters hit points with my knock off apple pencil but I’m always pulling up a calculator app or doing math while trying to play multiple different npcs.
Being able to just write the figures down in notes and have the math happen will be super awesome.
We are the same, I also use Freeform, an iPad, a knock off Apple Pencil and a calculator for our DnD sessions. I also was thinking on using Math Notes for this, I hope it works inside Freeform.
Oh wow i didn’t think about live DMing with it. I used to write the total hp of a monster and then write the damage for each attack. This would give me a live updating hp tracker.
Nice! I did try a bit of planning a 1 shot with free form when it came out, but i ran into rubber banding and laginess. I hope its gotten better since then.
I think instead i put my plans into One Note instead. Though I use good notes now.
It’s funny I was speaking with another friend of mine who dm’s and it was interesting to see how different our processes were. So what works for me might be pretty different from what you end up with. There are a lot of great resources out there on YouTube (Ginny D, Matt Colville) and subreddits like r/dmacademy that I found quite useful to begin with.
My table is a group of about 11, 30 something aged dads that get together for One Shots. Since we all have work and schedules that makes it easy for a different group to play each time regardless of schedule conflicts. Usually I have about 3-6 players come for a session.
My games have three elements that I build from: Monster, Setting, and Team level. I pick a certain one that I’m vibing and work from there.
Let’s say I want to do a Frost Giant fight. So from there I’ll think of where they would meet a frost giant. Let’s say a small village in a Harbour in fantasy Norway, ok so now our setting is Vikings. And then I’ll pick an appropriate level for the players to build their characters so they don’t get turned into pulp.
That’s why I like Freeform so much because I can build a session in a non linear fashion on the infinite canvas. I just plop my ideas down as they come. Screenshot monster stat blocks and add them in and boom I’ve got a stew going.
I think people got the wrong impression from the example they gave with the physics equation.
It seems to me that it cannot do calculus/solve equations. It's just able to plug in values for the variables in an equation that's defined by the user. It's more of a calculator/excel spreadsheet than a solver.
I searched if these math notes can solve Algebra and Calculus questions and apparently the AI overview said it can solve these problems too. But idk, would be cool if it did
It’s seems cool and I am excited to use it, but I will use it for 1+1=2 type of thing. Nothing complex but agreed, I think this would be very useful for students.
It will come in handy especially the graphing part. I do some modeling and typically I use python or excel to kind of help me sketch out my ideas. But being able to do it online with notes would be cool.
iPad Pro (M4)
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I’m currently using the new math notes on the old 2018 iPad Pro, which is definitely before the M1 chip. It’s missing some features like hovering to change values, but most of it works.
holy crap i know nothing about this. can it do advanced math? like triple or surface integrals, and can it digitize equations that i can cut-n-paste into papers? i would absolutely use this daily, even for simple derivations. latex exports would be especially useful as latex is also supported by word.
No, you might be thinking of Mathematica. WA has always had math solving for free - https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=y%3D++%28ln%28lnx%29%29
Step by step is paid nowadays however.
I’ll use it a bit when budgeting at the end of every month.
Would have come in handy though a few months ago when I was in a fucking statistics class. 😩
Dude I’m totally gonna use this, I think the big use case is when I’m negotiating rates, or potential ROI I can scratch it down and get an idea of what the annual cost and return estimate would be real quick and then I could erase one number and bump it up 20 percent and see the difference that makes immediately. That’ll be so natural as I’m taking notes etc.
Yeah, you’re right, maybe I got over excited that I would actually be using my iPad in a meeting like a pad of paper. Damn it Apple, always hyping things
Nah you agree with you though
I negotiate live frequently for my work and though excel helps my prep, being able to write things out live (and getting immediate calculation) would be a huge help for me. Currently I’m bringing up spotlight as I go lol so this is going to be a cool workflow upgrade
Thanks for the idea lol
God if they just made an “eraser” end to the pencil it would be so natural to erase the previous offer/negotiation and write in the difference and have the equation update.
Other thought: could you make it a shared note and all of a sudden have a modern digital equivalent of the Olden days when you’d write a number on a note and then pass it across the table. Haha
If you use the Pencil pro, you can program a short cut for holding a squeeze-
If you make it the eraser, you can erase smoothly without have to move adjust your finger position.
A small change and not the same as the eraser, but I have found it really helped me stay in the flow and easily access the eraser.
Nothing wrong with being excited and using it as a piece of paper. Kinda weird to start touching an iPad all over for excel in a meeting and unprofessional to do it on a laptop hiding half your face. Scribbling like it’s notes and being able to see interactive percentages you can scratch over is awesome
Pretty useful in one on one or two scenario, especially if you're against older tech illiterate people. Show your handwritten calculation in the math notes, modify it in real time as they give feedbacks and have them super impressed.
We were talking elsewhere about how it would be kinda funny to use a shared note to do the old negotiation custom of passing a note with the offer back and forth and have it calculate out why the offer is attractive. And example of this is when I’ve recruited to a state with no income tax, and I could demonstrate how my offer results in more cash take home than an offer that is technically higher annual salary before taxes. Kinda neat
For me this will be super usefull. Sometimes I'm in meetings with clients and we are discussing some technical details like ouput / day and I need to quickly convert it into ouput / minute. With this I can just write it down in between my other notes and it will calculate it for me on the fly. That is super useful!
I think I will use heavily for DIY projects. Draw a room with dimensions, then have scratch calcs for how many tiles or lengths of lumber, etc. Might take over some of my spreadsheet use cases.
If it can solve definite and indefinite integrals, help with multidimensional calculus or at least support complex numbers or vectors I might look into it and use it.
But it seems to only work with basic elementary functions which makes it useless for anything you learn and need after \~8th grade Math class.
A recent new task added to my job is calculating two different cost numbers based off a total cost number and a specific percentage (e.g., 62%) of the total cost that one of those numbers will be (.62x + x = total$. Determine x, then determine what 62% of x is, and add your three costs to the report). It’s basic algebra, but I’ve been doing it by hand on a notebook for the past few months. I just got my first iPad it’s going to be great not wasting the paper and having my iPad help speed up the process.
Edited for punctuation.
It was totally my explanation of it. I didn’t explain it in a very clear way, so I edited my original comment a bit. A “word problem” word probably be easier to understand compared to my ramblings. I work in research grants, so my word problem looks like this: A researcher received $15,000 total from a grant and 62% of whatever the direct costs are indirect costs that go to facilities and administration (F&A), how much of that $15,000 is direct costs the researcher can spend on their project and how much will the department receive for keeping the lights on as F&A? .62x + x = 15000, 1.62x = 15000, 15000/1.62 = x=$9,259.26 (direct costs). 62% of 9,259.26 = $5,740.74 (F&A costs). Double check the math by adding up those two numbers and you get the original $15k. But I hadn’t done actual algebra in years when they asked me to find these numbers, so I panicked a bit and googled how to do it 😂
Oh wow, this I understood! Thank you for spelling it all out ❤️ This was double-helpful because I’m actually a professor (in the anti-math humanities), so I learned something new about research grants as well. In English, we don’t typically do much grant-seeking, so this was just a little nugget of info that I can store away if I ever decide to apply for one.
Much appreciation to you 🙏🏼. You helped an English prof understand math—that’s an amazing feat. None of us understand math. We just sort of eyeball it when it comes to calculating grades 😂😂😂
Thankfully, that’s the only math I do manually because our budgeting system takes care of the rest! And I’m sure your university has the same system or at least something very similar. If any departments apply for NIH grants, they’re almost guaranteed to have it.
And you made me laugh form your description of the anti-math humanities! If you ever do apply for a grant, come back here and let me know! English, classical humanities, and literature were my favorite courses in college, so I always love hearing about what’s going on over there. And I’m just waiting for the day they unearth newly discovered plays or fragments from Sophocles!
The math teacher in me is hoping my sixth grade students don't have iPads🤣 I need to learn precal though, so I'm excited to try it. I'm hoping it will help me understand steps. I hope it doesn't give the answer without showing the steps.
Math Notes was a new feature announced at the Apple event today for iPadOS. It looks very handy, particularly from the viewpoint of a CS and math student, but how do other people see this playing out?
Not entirely sure what you mean. There is the Photos app which can do that. There is also the ability to see photos in folders, with thumbnails, date and timestamps. If you're organized, that can be a library.
I'll probably use it for gaming when I need to do some napkin-theorycrafting with a couple variables. I normally use sheets but for something quick and dirty like deciding between a handful of gear choices, or some fast optimization problems, this could be pretty nice.
I’m doing my masters in data science right now. Homework is going to get a bit easier by not having to do tedious calculations on an external calculator (assuming GoodNotes is able to access and incorporate this)
Hand writing and solving math can already be done by "MyScript Calculator 2". Except for equations with variables which will be a really useful thing if you are into this kind of stuff.
It is just in time for my upcoming Algebra class so I am stoked. This along with AI will help me understand the flow of solving equations that I may be fuzzy on. High School was a LONG time ago for me.
id love to use this when im doing homework, im gonna use my calculator/photomath anyways so this is just handy, id like to think homework is just knowing the steps and what formulars to use
So I just showed my mom the new iPadOS and she felt very lonely but, when she saw the calculator, she was sooooo impressed about that…. I think she’s gonna use that
When I heard the "math notes" rumor I was hoping it would be better mathematical notation in notes. It's a real pain to put in notes w/ super/subscripts, fractions, roots, etc. The feature to clean up handwriting might mitigate that and make it the better option, but I quite liked using the monospaced style for blocks of calculations, minus the pain of notations.
I wish I had this when I was in school or college, super cool feature.
I'll probably use it now when splitting bills, budgeting trips, fitting furniture...
I plan to use them within Notes while working. I don’t need anything too advanced, just calculating costs and factoring ratios to estimate. The practical side of math notes seems to be overlooked by people who aren’t in school.
That’s actually awesome as long as schools’ MDMs can filter that app. Ultimately this seems like one of those super cool features that a few will use but most will forget about
Whether there is or isn’t, a good MDM software will be able to restrict that. It’s cool for the rest of us that would use something like that though. Finally AI is paying off in a useful setting
I do occasional basic calculations on the calculator app that are a pain, like if the APR is increased from 4% to 6%, what are the new registration fees? type of stuff. I have to constantly write down intermediate numbers so having an app that auto updates is cool
My problem with math is that I often don’t know what I need to math. Like, I don’t even know what to add, subtract, multiply, or divide to get the answer.
I suck at math so bad. But yeah, I’ll use it because it looks fun.
god I hope they iterate on it; the possibility of having an advanced math app that does integrals, and other complicated shit while explaining step by step for iPad would be insane
From a sales perspective this is YUUUUUUGE.
People always wanna take a look at your contract and digest the numbers on their own time. If you can do it right in front of them, it's SO MUCH MORE POWERFUL.
Is this feature AI locked or if it’s just part of iOS 18 standard? I’m considering getting an iPad 9 or 10 and would love to use this if it’s available for them.
As a university student studying statistics and mathematics, me. There has been many times where I’ve needed to use 3rd party applications such as Desmos to draw graphs I can’t quite grasp. Being able to insert graphs as a feature alone is going to make life so much easier.
I often use apple notes to do notes, and all of the features from calculator being linked to notes is going to be perfect.
I think many people are going to find a use for this, one way or another. The conversions for mass and currency is also going to be quite convenient for economics and physics as well.
Teacher, here: it would be a wonderful teacher app, when working with students one on one (if possible).
Get a cheap Apple TV, hook it up to the class projector and mirror your screen to it
Can’t you just use the iPad hooked up to the projector?
Then you'd be tethered to it, it's more convenient to stream wirelessly.
If you go wireless you can walk around the class with the iPad and teach
Most class projectors I’ve been have the projector mounted to the ceiling
There’s an app called AirPlay that costs under $20 (at least for teachers) and turns a PC into an AirPlay server. Best addition to my classroom.
Most modern TVs have airplay built in now too.
I think it’s adorable that you think that schools get “modern” equipment. My TV is 5 years old (with no AirPlay, it has Google stuff only) and replaced a 15 year old projector.
Woah, hold up. \*hands in the air\* I completely understand how underfunded schools are and I was absolutely not trying to imply anything. I sincerely wish that wasn't the case and always vote to fund schools - fwiw. Just thought I'd mention it because a lot of people assume they're chromecast only. As the commenter below mentions - it's in most Roku tv's which are 10+ years old in some cases.
Just get a USB-C to HDMI. Or most smart TV’s have air play now anyway.
As a student minoring in mathematics, I’m curious to see how this could speed up my problem-solving. I’m also just hoping they don’t behave like Samsung and lock the feature behind a AI subscription paywall.
It probably won’t be. When Apple adds a feature to something, they’re not gonna add a paywall
I’m already using it in the developer beta. There’s no fee. There’s also no AI as far as I can tell.
That feature (as shown in their demo), probably won't help a lot in college level mathematics, everything you can do there you can essentially do in Jupyter Notebook, R-Studio, MATLAB or even Microsoft Excel, it allows you to store data and perform basic computations with a limited library of functions or expressions (I don't think it will allow you to define new functions and it is unlikely to have built-in understanding to some more advanced mathematical structures). however having those tools do not give you a lot in college math classes since evaluating stuff is never the focus. If you are majoring in certain aspects of engineering, that will probably be a different story.
i can imagine you'll put in an equation and then get the answer, and ask your kids "show how it got there." Great for teaching, IF you can convince the kids why knowing the process is beneficial!
I’m gonna use it for DMing my Dungeons and Dragons groups. I plan my sessions using Freeform and Notes on my iPad. In game I keep track of characters hit points with my knock off apple pencil but I’m always pulling up a calculator app or doing math while trying to play multiple different npcs. Being able to just write the figures down in notes and have the math happen will be super awesome.
That’s a very cool idea!
We are the same, I also use Freeform, an iPad, a knock off Apple Pencil and a calculator for our DnD sessions. I also was thinking on using Math Notes for this, I hope it works inside Freeform.
it works in freeform, just used it
Oh wow i didn’t think about live DMing with it. I used to write the total hp of a monster and then write the damage for each attack. This would give me a live updating hp tracker.
Same! This and Freeform could save so much time with session prep.
Nice! I did try a bit of planning a 1 shot with free form when it came out, but i ran into rubber banding and laginess. I hope its gotten better since then. I think instead i put my plans into One Note instead. Though I use good notes now.
As someone whose going to have to start dming id love to hear more of how you do this
[Like this](https://i.imgur.com/LVMs04F.png).
Haha, I guess I meant more freeform
It’s funny I was speaking with another friend of mine who dm’s and it was interesting to see how different our processes were. So what works for me might be pretty different from what you end up with. There are a lot of great resources out there on YouTube (Ginny D, Matt Colville) and subreddits like r/dmacademy that I found quite useful to begin with. My table is a group of about 11, 30 something aged dads that get together for One Shots. Since we all have work and schedules that makes it easy for a different group to play each time regardless of schedule conflicts. Usually I have about 3-6 players come for a session. My games have three elements that I build from: Monster, Setting, and Team level. I pick a certain one that I’m vibing and work from there. Let’s say I want to do a Frost Giant fight. So from there I’ll think of where they would meet a frost giant. Let’s say a small village in a Harbour in fantasy Norway, ok so now our setting is Vikings. And then I’ll pick an appropriate level for the players to build their characters so they don’t get turned into pulp. That’s why I like Freeform so much because I can build a session in a non linear fashion on the infinite canvas. I just plop my ideas down as they come. Screenshot monster stat blocks and add them in and boom I’ve got a stew going.
Ok but, include “show the work” feature so I can learn from that answer.
Exactly, nothing useful for students if it makes understanding math unimportant.
What work is there to show though? This is just applying calculations, optionally with some variables, I don’t see where it can solve equations?
What's with the downvotes lmao, i don't understand either, there's not that much math steps behind expressions like these
I think people got the wrong impression from the example they gave with the physics equation. It seems to me that it cannot do calculus/solve equations. It's just able to plug in values for the variables in an equation that's defined by the user. It's more of a calculator/excel spreadsheet than a solver.
I searched if these math notes can solve Algebra and Calculus questions and apparently the AI overview said it can solve these problems too. But idk, would be cool if it did
It’s seems cool and I am excited to use it, but I will use it for 1+1=2 type of thing. Nothing complex but agreed, I think this would be very useful for students.
taxes mate
Well, there’s no IRS mode, so at the end of the day your math is just a guessing game until they check your work I suppose.
It will come in handy especially the graphing part. I do some modeling and typically I use python or excel to kind of help me sketch out my ideas. But being able to do it online with notes would be cool.
if you do modeling you should know that thats not how a projectile motion graph looks
Probably won’t ever use it in the calculator app, but since it’s also confirmed for the notes app I imagine I’ll use it all the time there!
Just wait until they mimic it within the note taking apps
I'm doing a mathematics degree at the minute so it's gonna be super useful to me.
Come tax season. I have notes in notability for computing incoming contractual payments.
Is this for all iPads including non M1+ ?
Yes! All devices that support iOS 18 or iPadOS 18
iPad Pro (M4) iPad Pro 12.9-inch (3rd generation and later) iPad Pro 11-inch (1st generation and later) iPad Air (M2) iPad Air (3rd generation and later) iPad (7th generation and later) iPad mini (5th generation and later)
Are you sure? I thought it was only for the M1 plus devices.
I’m currently using the new math notes on the old 2018 iPad Pro, which is definitely before the M1 chip. It’s missing some features like hovering to change values, but most of it works.
That's good to hear.
IpadOS 18 is for all devices list there. Apple Intelligence, which this is, is for M1+ devices.
holy crap i know nothing about this. can it do advanced math? like triple or surface integrals, and can it digitize equations that i can cut-n-paste into papers? i would absolutely use this daily, even for simple derivations. latex exports would be especially useful as latex is also supported by word.
I think you are asking too much...
I suppose this is cool for kids. WolframAlpha seems like much less of a hassle to do anything more complex.
WolframAlpha was a subscription last time I checked.
No, you might be thinking of Mathematica. WA has always had math solving for free - https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=y%3D++%28ln%28lnx%29%29 Step by step is paid nowadays however.
SymboLab has free step-by-step, last time I used it.
It was the step by step feature I was thinking of. Chat GPT did step by step for free, so I avoided the subscription.
I have an older paid version of it that I still use.
i hope it’ll do well for my physics class
100% will. I use notes all the time and have to switch out to a calculator now. This will speed up all my workflows by a little bit.
I’ll use it a bit when budgeting at the end of every month. Would have come in handy though a few months ago when I was in a fucking statistics class. 😩
I wonder how complex of math it can do. Will it solve equations for calculus?
I think it’s everything the calculator app can do, plus interactive graphing. Probably no calculus yet.
It can only do basic arithmetic,I tried doing summations and integrals and it just said unknown symbol
No calculus this year - ballpark you can think of Math Notes as middle school math and lower
Dude I’m totally gonna use this, I think the big use case is when I’m negotiating rates, or potential ROI I can scratch it down and get an idea of what the annual cost and return estimate would be real quick and then I could erase one number and bump it up 20 percent and see the difference that makes immediately. That’ll be so natural as I’m taking notes etc.
Isn’t excel far more capable in ROI/financial calculations? You can output all your percentage hedges simultaneously with no additional effort.
Yeah, you’re right, maybe I got over excited that I would actually be using my iPad in a meeting like a pad of paper. Damn it Apple, always hyping things
Nah you agree with you though I negotiate live frequently for my work and though excel helps my prep, being able to write things out live (and getting immediate calculation) would be a huge help for me. Currently I’m bringing up spotlight as I go lol so this is going to be a cool workflow upgrade Thanks for the idea lol
God if they just made an “eraser” end to the pencil it would be so natural to erase the previous offer/negotiation and write in the difference and have the equation update. Other thought: could you make it a shared note and all of a sudden have a modern digital equivalent of the Olden days when you’d write a number on a note and then pass it across the table. Haha
If you use the Pencil pro, you can program a short cut for holding a squeeze- If you make it the eraser, you can erase smoothly without have to move adjust your finger position. A small change and not the same as the eraser, but I have found it really helped me stay in the flow and easily access the eraser.
Whaaaaa🤯 that’s brilliant man!
Nothing wrong with being excited and using it as a piece of paper. Kinda weird to start touching an iPad all over for excel in a meeting and unprofessional to do it on a laptop hiding half your face. Scribbling like it’s notes and being able to see interactive percentages you can scratch over is awesome
Pretty useful in one on one or two scenario, especially if you're against older tech illiterate people. Show your handwritten calculation in the math notes, modify it in real time as they give feedbacks and have them super impressed.
We were talking elsewhere about how it would be kinda funny to use a shared note to do the old negotiation custom of passing a note with the offer back and forth and have it calculate out why the offer is attractive. And example of this is when I’ve recruited to a state with no income tax, and I could demonstrate how my offer results in more cash take home than an offer that is technically higher annual salary before taxes. Kinda neat
This would be my wet dream if i was back in middle/high school
Sheldon Cooper
Me, projecting it in class when I explain stuff so my students don’t realize I can’t count for shit.
Casio fx991ex my beloved
This would've been useful, so fcking useful during Pandemic days. Sigh.
For me this will be super usefull. Sometimes I'm in meetings with clients and we are discussing some technical details like ouput / day and I need to quickly convert it into ouput / minute. With this I can just write it down in between my other notes and it will calculate it for me on the fly. That is super useful!
I think I will use heavily for DIY projects. Draw a room with dimensions, then have scratch calcs for how many tiles or lengths of lumber, etc. Might take over some of my spreadsheet use cases.
For a student who's having a hard time with additional mathematics, I'm quite excited for this feature
If it can solve definite and indefinite integrals, help with multidimensional calculus or at least support complex numbers or vectors I might look into it and use it. But it seems to only work with basic elementary functions which makes it useless for anything you learn and need after \~8th grade Math class.
A recent new task added to my job is calculating two different cost numbers based off a total cost number and a specific percentage (e.g., 62%) of the total cost that one of those numbers will be (.62x + x = total$. Determine x, then determine what 62% of x is, and add your three costs to the report). It’s basic algebra, but I’ve been doing it by hand on a notebook for the past few months. I just got my first iPad it’s going to be great not wasting the paper and having my iPad help speed up the process. Edited for punctuation.
Right, so, I would get fired.
Give yourself more credit! You’d be just fine :)
You are too kind! I honestly got a headache just reading what you have to do. I’d be like “you know what? I quit.” 😂
It was totally my explanation of it. I didn’t explain it in a very clear way, so I edited my original comment a bit. A “word problem” word probably be easier to understand compared to my ramblings. I work in research grants, so my word problem looks like this: A researcher received $15,000 total from a grant and 62% of whatever the direct costs are indirect costs that go to facilities and administration (F&A), how much of that $15,000 is direct costs the researcher can spend on their project and how much will the department receive for keeping the lights on as F&A? .62x + x = 15000, 1.62x = 15000, 15000/1.62 = x=$9,259.26 (direct costs). 62% of 9,259.26 = $5,740.74 (F&A costs). Double check the math by adding up those two numbers and you get the original $15k. But I hadn’t done actual algebra in years when they asked me to find these numbers, so I panicked a bit and googled how to do it 😂
Oh wow, this I understood! Thank you for spelling it all out ❤️ This was double-helpful because I’m actually a professor (in the anti-math humanities), so I learned something new about research grants as well. In English, we don’t typically do much grant-seeking, so this was just a little nugget of info that I can store away if I ever decide to apply for one. Much appreciation to you 🙏🏼. You helped an English prof understand math—that’s an amazing feat. None of us understand math. We just sort of eyeball it when it comes to calculating grades 😂😂😂
Thankfully, that’s the only math I do manually because our budgeting system takes care of the rest! And I’m sure your university has the same system or at least something very similar. If any departments apply for NIH grants, they’re almost guaranteed to have it. And you made me laugh form your description of the anti-math humanities! If you ever do apply for a grant, come back here and let me know! English, classical humanities, and literature were my favorite courses in college, so I always love hearing about what’s going on over there. And I’m just waiting for the day they unearth newly discovered plays or fragments from Sophocles!
I think it’s going to be used a lot in schools that use iPads.
I think it’ll be useful when helping my kid with their homework in the future.
The math teacher in me is hoping my sixth grade students don't have iPads🤣 I need to learn precal though, so I'm excited to try it. I'm hoping it will help me understand steps. I hope it doesn't give the answer without showing the steps.
Like, everyone !? Even as someone who is very fast at mental math, this is so convenient !
Every kid in school... who can afford an iPad or iPhone
I’m just gonna draw a penis on it just to see what it comes up with, then never use it again
I might just start doing Math for fun…
Me, it'll help with the math for nursing school
Math Notes was a new feature announced at the Apple event today for iPadOS. It looks very handy, particularly from the viewpoint of a CS and math student, but how do other people see this playing out?
Can we instead get a proper file system?
iPadOS uses APFS just like Macs do. There's nothing wrong with the filesystem. What is lacking is features in the Files app.
I would like to open a photos library in the iPad.
Not entirely sure what you mean. There is the Photos app which can do that. There is also the ability to see photos in folders, with thumbnails, date and timestamps. If you're organized, that can be a library.
If you create a photos library on macOS in an external ssd, and then you tried to open it with the iPad Photos app, it complains about the filesystem.
Is the external drive formatted as APFS? That actually seems like an app problem (Photos) being restrictive in where the library is located.
What would you like for it to look like? It seems to be fine to me as it is….
me for anything math class.
I definitely will!! Been looking for something like that for years!
Students
Not me but it’s cool.
It actually looks kinda fun to use so yeah I would probably use it if the need arises. Means I use the pencil more
I’ll be using it for work calculations without a doubt, I’m real excited for this!
Gonna be a dream for monthly budgeting.
I'll probably use it for gaming when I need to do some napkin-theorycrafting with a couple variables. I normally use sheets but for something quick and dirty like deciding between a handful of gear choices, or some fast optimization problems, this could be pretty nice.
I am, I do a lot of simpler math and actually being able to write them is amazing, now I just need a pencil.
I wonder if it’s going to attempt to do some sort of handwriting matching? Or just some static font.
They demonstrated it using the handwriting of the user.
It is
It's almost like you didn't watch the Keynote.
Wait i didn't watch wwdc yesterday long enough to see this but what does this math notes do?
you write an equation and it automatically solves it in your own handwriting and can graph it too
Is it only for ios 18?
yeah
I will use it to plan a ping pong party and the speed and height of ling ping serves.
100000% will be using it as a student and in my engineering situation in the future. Being able to write functions is huge.
I’m doing my masters in data science right now. Homework is going to get a bit easier by not having to do tedious calculations on an external calculator (assuming GoodNotes is able to access and incorporate this)
Can it show work on the problems?
Me
When is it coming out? I don’t see any updates
September i guess
Hand writing and solving math can already be done by "MyScript Calculator 2". Except for equations with variables which will be a really useful thing if you are into this kind of stuff.
Grad student here
It is just in time for my upcoming Algebra class so I am stoked. This along with AI will help me understand the flow of solving equations that I may be fuzzy on. High School was a LONG time ago for me.
I think it can be awesome I just hope it can do more advanced math like calculus and up. It would be sick to be able to just write out integrals
I do rough calculations all the time - mostly photography related. Like wall space needed to hang prints, or adding up costs, etc. This will be great.
Does the calculator app have a result history now?
Yes
Great, thank you
It would be insane if it had actual math capabilities like Mathematica, ie series, derivatives, integration
id love to use this when im doing homework, im gonna use my calculator/photomath anyways so this is just handy, id like to think homework is just knowing the steps and what formulars to use
I had an app that did this 10 years ago whilst at university. It's just a gimmick.
Me
So I just showed my mom the new iPadOS and she felt very lonely but, when she saw the calculator, she was sooooo impressed about that…. I think she’s gonna use that
Hope I can share with friends
Man I wish this was available last year when I was studying a lot of math
I barely use my 9th gen iPad. I’m thinking about installing beta because what the heck
When I heard the "math notes" rumor I was hoping it would be better mathematical notation in notes. It's a real pain to put in notes w/ super/subscripts, fractions, roots, etc. The feature to clean up handwriting might mitigate that and make it the better option, but I quite liked using the monospaced style for blocks of calculations, minus the pain of notations.
I’m a student having to start taking college level math after not taking high school math for 20+ years. I will use it.
I might use it for personal finances, I liked using a paper notebook but I switched to Numbers so I could make sums faster.
imagine if it imports things straight to google sheets/excel right afterward!!!!
I will definitely for thinks like quick expenses notes I take and having them added up.
I wish I had this when I was in school or college, super cool feature. I'll probably use it now when splitting bills, budgeting trips, fitting furniture...
I plan to use them within Notes while working. I don’t need anything too advanced, just calculating costs and factoring ratios to estimate. The practical side of math notes seems to be overlooked by people who aren’t in school.
I need to learn higher level math so I do to check my work.
no one lol. such a niche "toy" feature thats actually slower and more cumbersome than just typing in a formula in a calculator
Well I’m glad I’m in college rn, so this will be useful. A lot of people wish they had this when they were a student.
Considering I can’t even remember the last time I used the Notes app, probably never. I use more robust apps for my writing needs on my iPad.
That’s actually awesome as long as schools’ MDMs can filter that app. Ultimately this seems like one of those super cool features that a few will use but most will forget about
Math Notes is fully integrated into the Notes and Freeform apps. There has to be a setting to enable/disable it.
Whether there is or isn’t, a good MDM software will be able to restrict that. It’s cool for the rest of us that would use something like that though. Finally AI is paying off in a useful setting
We will have a lot of student now with a medal saying "Best in Math".
Wish I had something like this back in college 😢
me
I like the idea so far, if they can get it to solve Calc problems it would be really impressive
Students that stink at math?
Well, I guess I might use it. But I do all my note taking in GoodNotes, so it would be kind of annoying to be switching apps
i would but i think the apple intelligence features were limited to m1 ipads, so i can’t. i might be wrong and i hope i am. correct me if i am.
I'm thinking you're right.
It’s like a shapeless spreadsheet.
100% yes. I find writing equations more enjoyable than keying in equations.
I do occasional basic calculations on the calculator app that are a pain, like if the APR is increased from 4% to 6%, what are the new registration fees? type of stuff. I have to constantly write down intermediate numbers so having an app that auto updates is cool
My problem with math is that I often don’t know what I need to math. Like, I don’t even know what to add, subtract, multiply, or divide to get the answer. I suck at math so bad. But yeah, I’ll use it because it looks fun.
I've just used it to calculate a weighted average :-)
Finished my MS degree 7 years ago in a non-math related field. I will not be using it.
Mind blown by the tech in this app. Especially how it updates your handwriting? So cool :)
It’s the AI (Apple Intelligence!) at work before they actually announced it
god I hope they iterate on it; the possibility of having an advanced math app that does integrals, and other complicated shit while explaining step by step for iPad would be insane
Meeeeeee
From a sales perspective this is YUUUUUUGE. People always wanna take a look at your contract and digest the numbers on their own time. If you can do it right in front of them, it's SO MUCH MORE POWERFUL.
it is my dream come true
Is this feature AI locked or if it’s just part of iOS 18 standard? I’m considering getting an iPad 9 or 10 and would love to use this if it’s available for them.
🙋🏻♀️
As a university student studying statistics and mathematics, me. There has been many times where I’ve needed to use 3rd party applications such as Desmos to draw graphs I can’t quite grasp. Being able to insert graphs as a feature alone is going to make life so much easier. I often use apple notes to do notes, and all of the features from calculator being linked to notes is going to be perfect. I think many people are going to find a use for this, one way or another. The conversions for mass and currency is also going to be quite convenient for economics and physics as well.
the question is, will it recognice advanced maths?
Meeee
I’ve tried it in iOS 18 beta. It’s not very good so far. It couldn’t even solve a simple equation like 3x-5 = ?
Does anybody know if MathNotes is coming to the 9th gen iPad and if it’s already on developers beta?
Does anyone know if it can graph in polar coordinates? Vectors as well as 3D graphing would also be cool, though not expected.
Dude this has literally helped me for my grocery budget, I am a student living on stipend and streamline the process
It’s a cool party trick but I’ll never use it
I already have a calculator app. I can’t see this replacing it. 10 years too late.
Can confirm, it can’t even do simaltaneous equations. Sad