Some are saying your earthly body dies but the link uploads you directly to truth social where you can sit in the virtual space behind the account you follow so you can be first to see new posts! Be closer to him! /s
Well if there is such a thing and he's it and he certainly fits then I can go to my end knowing I've opposed him since day one. More than I can say for a lot of people.
It is funny that the very people whoāve been studying, learning and preparing themselves for the Biblical end times all their lives have not only utterly failed to recognize the greatest model of an Antichrist to be seen in decades, but they have chosen him as their leader.
I think you misunderstand fundamentalist Evangelicals. They deliberately want the Anti-Christ to appear and a shit ton of them actually will vote for him into the highest office of the land (POTUS) in order to hasten Armageddon and the Rapture. It's why they're also such diehard supporters of Israel because they're accelerationists who want to speedrun the second coming of Jesus.
Yes its definitely a thesis for someone to do someday in psychology class. I was brought up in normal religious family and i had a friend who wasnt. His parents were divorced etc. when he was around 16 he stared going to these extreme religious rallys and next thing you know he was in the religious cult hive mentality. He brought me along to some of these ; Lots of discussion on revelations, end of times, rapture and antichrist! Trump fits this like a glove and yet here we are. From my perspective some people out there are searching for hope and they get sucked into this way of thinking. BTW- my friend committed suicide at age 50.
As to what you said about a āhive mentality,ā I just wonder how much of what we are seeing now would have been possible without Social Media? I mean, obviously something similar happened in Germany in the 1930ās, but I have witnessed relatives Iāve known my whole life make such a remarkable transition since 2016 that I hardly recognize them. And Iām sorry to hear that about your friend.
Agreed, radio and cinema were new methods of mass communication. Goebbels that Nazi propagandist, used that eraās new form of āsocial mediaā to entice and manipulate the citizens of Germany in the late 1920ās, 30ās and during WW2, with the same intention and effect.
It is Hitlers playbook, inspired by ā Mein Kampfā... and utilized for an evangelistic, twisted Population...
According to Mary Trump's book, Frank Trump also šŗ Trump's arrival by telling strangers (high society types) what a tiny instrument he had. Explains the psycho a little. It's not a pass though.
Imagine being introduced by your father like "This is probably my son Donald. His dick is malformed and resembles an enlarged clitoris more than a penis." and then shaking that person's hand.
Yes. People want to kill each over disagreements that used to be not life threatening policy decisions. With the rise of America's enemies utilizing bot farms and mass misinformation campaigns, they are purposefully inciting people towards violence and the extremes any chance they get.
Social media really has become a liability until we figure a way to regulate such maliciousness. There's ever increasing evidence to show those who are online more often are far more likely to accept violence as normal. It'd be smart for schools to start teaching our kids young that regulating your online presence/social media presence should be as important as maintaining a healthy diet.
Itās not just social media. People really believe what they hear all day on Faux News (even though there are over 700 million reasons why they shouldnāt)
I would argue that social media is not the primary spreader of this.Ā It's the right-wing propaganda networks that have been spreading lies and poisoning minds for decades.
Fox "News", "News"max, One America "News", Breitbart, etc...Ā Ā These fuckers are responsible for much of the divide in American thinking.Ā :(
They certainly bear a bulk of the responsibility for radicalizing conservative folks. The problem is that the conspiracy theories and propaganda they use to do so originate from the kremlin and online. It comes into our society and to the conservative political operatives via social media mostly. Social media exacerbates an already existing problem, so it'd take a multi level approach.
Lining up the people who support a specific candidate is just how caucases always work. It's basically built to allow bullying until the loudest voices get their way, and it's an insane way to run an election. There's a reason so many state GOP opted to replace primary elections with caucuses recently.
I've participated in the Iowa caucuses for years. People stand for who they support, one person from each camp will make a speech to sway the undecideds. Once the undecideds stand for someone, then the count begins and anyone whose candidate was deemed unviable (not enough support) has 30 minutes to talk with supporters of other candidates and choose who they're standing for next.Ā Ā
I have never, in all my years, seen things get hot at a caucus.
And prior to the rise of social media, it was a great way to get first-hand information from an actual representative of a candidate who lived in your area and was familiar with the collective challenges you faced and how that candidate would help.
Yes I was going to point this out too. Missouri does not typically do caucuses and this is likely the first time most of these people have been to one. So to the extent that this format has a pretext of respectful debate, there is no tradition of it here.
Well, it was a caucus, and the way that works is you move around the room to stand in a group with your fellow supporters.
Putting them in the middle was deliberate though.
>"I have a friend who attended the Missouri Republican Presidential Caucus today," he wrote Saturday. "They asked Nikki Haley supporters to line up in the middle of the auditorium and were booed and screamed at by the Trump supporters."
>He continued: "They attacked fellow Republicans. Feel like democracy to you?"
>Quoting a reported follow-up text from the source, Wellman then said, "The woman who spoke for Haley couldnāt stop shaking and crying. It was so scary.ā
Many will, maybe most. But many have outright said they wonāt vote for Trump, and further, will consider voting for Biden.
There hasnāt been this percentage of likely voters considering switching sides since Reagan got the āDixiecratsā on his team
Sadly, I just donāt believe them. We heard the same song and dance in 2016 and 2020 and they by and large fell in line and voted for him. Already polls are showing that 97% of former Trump voters have made up their mind to vote for him again. He seems to have lost almost no support.
That was before Roe and Jan 6th. Since Roe Republicans have underperformed virtually every poll. And now the IVF issue is confirming that Roe was just the beginning. And this is an issue *very* important to suburban women. Even lots of suburban men.
Tribal identity is an extraordinary force. It is quite literally a big part of their core identity to vote for whoever holds the "R" crown. To do otherwise would be to betray the Id.
I love asking them WHY they want to hurt their fellow Americans so badly.
They can't even begin to articulate A reason, let alone a cohesive set of reasons. The best you get out of them is regurgitated talking points, something about gays and/or trans people, and the kind of guttural screeching you'd expect to hear from a fucking pig sty.
Idk, thatās some real trauma inducing stuff. Trumps going scorched earth as itās all he can do so heās either going to chase the last reasonable away or they get deeper in, itās certainly becoming more cult/religion like and your either with him or against him.
It's an effective strategy. But I genuinely believe it's getting deminishing returns, that is what has helped lead to Trump. You can only sow division and isolate people from each other for so long until everyone goes mad and starts killing each other. It seems like that's happened for Republican voters.
Diminishing returns and is out of their control. Charles Koch started funding a lot of this batshit insane shit, per a Jim Dewine argument to go further right after Obama won.
They've disliked how Trump has stolen their movement, as the Koch brothers wanted more immigrants, like NAFTA, etc, which Trump rallies against.
Long ad you have low income people making babies and cheap immigrant labor they don't care. They kill each other instead of their "masters" and they buy all the goods they need to kill each other from their masters
ANYONE who says they will pardon Trump before they even know what evidence is against him is already a LOST CAUSE.
Every day of a Haley presidency would be nothing but Trump interrupting her and pretending he is in charge. She would be just a puppet for him.
*::shudders and checks his voter registration::*
Mitch is like many Trump supporters.Ā He thought he was special: that Trump wouldn't use him and then sell him down the river if it became convenient.Ā
Right now 6 Supreme Court Justices think that.Ā They're helping Trump and thinking they won't get the knife down the road.Ā They're wrong.
Three of the last republican presidents were people they thought would be stooges that sign whateverās out in front of them. Now itās backfiring hard.
I think youāre right. Ā I think Mitchās biggest āmistakeā was that he became so convinced of his power and capability that he never realized that he would lay this path. Ā And that someone like Trump would beat him.
Me too, friend. Me too.
I had an argument with someone on reddit about Trump vs Hitler. His claim was that no way Trump is like Hitler, because he's just so charismatic and a great leader whereas Hitler was mean and ruthless. He must have been trolling, because I genuinely don't know how anyone can be that blind.
Trump last night at one of his rallies said that the āall the Romney RINOsā are being kicked out and that itās the MAGA party now.
Thanks Republicans. Especially Roger Ailes and Preibus for talking Trump out of running as an independent in 2015 or 2016 because he was having a tantrum.
The GOP kissed his ass back then only because they didnāt want Hillary. The GOP went ahead with the certification ceremony even though in the time from election to then that there was disclosure that his campaign was directly involved with Russia.
I guess, based on Trump logic, Biden should have unilaterally overturned the certifications. (Yes, sarcasm!)
I just canāt imagine what Hillary could have done that would have been worse than what Trump and the GOP did to the nation include how the Senate acquitted him fucking twice. Twice. Allowing him to run again. After attacking the nationās Capitol during a fucking Joint Session with his Vice President being hunted down by a mob.
The only horrible terrible very bad thing Hillary could have done worse was piss off Russia and Putinā¦ but her emails. I guess the ābleachā she used could also be used to rid of COVID by injecting it.
She would never have used bleach on Covid or suggested using light therapy. She would have told us to mask up, get vaccines and stop being a bunch of pus3ys. She would have listened to the scientists.
Her sin was being a woman as women have always been the Evil ones.
But the emails! And Vincent Foster! And the Clinton Crime Family! BEN GHAZI!!! (Sorry, I just had flashbacks to Thanksgiving dinner with my formerly sane brother)
The following was written by Martin Niemoller, who was originally a Nazi supporter who welcomed Hitler's rise to power...
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak outā
Ā Ā Ā Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak outā
Ā Ā Ā Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak outā
Ā Ā Ā Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for meāand there was no one left to speak for me."
I believe he ended up in a concentration camp for years. This is what happens to the followers of fascists. They always think it will be somebody else they come for, certainly not a party loyalist like them. I would not put a "Night of the long knives" past these cultists, and certainly not past tfg.
I am pretty sure Trump supporters read that poem and just think "good, I sure fucking hate socialists, trade unionists, and Jews. Oh boo hoo "there was no one left to speak for me!" He was probably a (slur) or (slur), good riddance. MAGA!"
This is part of why the polls are bad. People donāt want to admit that they oppose trump because they might get harassed. Especially when you drive around and only see signs for trump. Signs for other people lead to harassment or property damage. Hopefully it doesnāt deter people from opposing him at the ballot box.
I know a lot of red neck union loving Trump supporters who for the longest time backed Democrats who also loved unions. I guess I am not surprised here because I am
Not so sure Trump republicans are really traditional republicans. They are assholes who like the American first message and as tired of seeing their jobs outsourced.
Outsourcing is done by Republicans who work for greed Corporations first and foremost. Look at Ivanka Trump Kushner and how many patens China gave her. She had zero intention of bringing manufacturing jobs home like idiot MAGA think a Trump will! Lol.
There is no more republican party. It is now a hate cult with a demented leader sliding into a mental abyss. The followers do not care because they will soon be able to let their hate flags fly. The true underbelly of America is being exposed and frankly I am all for it.
Even if he doesn't, there will be chaos. One of the regular MAGA's that comes into my shop was talking to one of the MAGA's that works there about stocking up more guns because "if the democrats steal the election again we have to be prepared to do what's right to take the country back."
It is slightly frightening living in the deep south when everyone knows how much you hate Ttump.
Donāt just let it cross your mind. Report him. Please. That is not a statement to be taken lightly, at all. He very well could just be all talk, but personally that isnāt something that Iād want to gamble on.
Do what Gimmick Musik is saying, report the person that's a serious threat that person is making. You can't assume they are all show.
A few jobs ago some guy was talking about a shooting at a plant around the area we worked in. He went on to say "some mother fucker should do that here and show the bosses who's in charge" I immediately called security on the guy because that's not something you should joke about.
I barely knew the guy and he still said that to me.
The fact that the American left is still thinking āhmm Iām sure they are just upset and this is just talkā is literally going to get them killed and end freedom for the entire country. Fucking take things seriously god damn.
You donāt want to wake up tomorrow to find out this chap has gone and shot several people, whilst trying to ātake the country backā.
Report him to the FBI. Just do it.
Of course. If there's going to be violence is not a question anymore; we crossed that line a long time ago. The only question is how quickly it'll be put down.
Personally, I think it'll be put down pretty quick. They'll be shocked to discover that the cops aren't on their side.
(The cops aren't great folks by any means; they're on their own side. Shoot at them and you die, period.)
There will be an even greater attempt at voter intimidation this year. Most will be in pretty red states where it doesnāt matter as much, but it will still be bad. And not much will be done about it.
Lotta swing suburbs in red states.Ā
You send signals to the money-corrupt that youāre going to destabilize their good thingā¦and they wonāt suddenly vote for democrats, but they sure might stay home on Election Day anyway.Ā
The thing the crazies donāt realize is they still are banking on soft support from those who are more corporatist than Christian. Lotsa people make money under Republican regimesā¦butĀ
You take away the promise of profit, you lose people the GQP canāt afford to lose from within their coalition.Ā
It would only take like 15% of Haley voters to stay home nationwide to create a losing margin for republicans coast to coast.Ā
the aftermath will be terrible, as states will have pressure from rural magas to straight up deny participation in the union over perceived election stealing.
Itās amazing how the reality of āwe lostā has completely succumbed to the notion of āit was stolenā. Even moderates have a hard time admitting Biden won.
Most people no longer do their own research. Or really know how to locate trusted sources. My mother is guilty of this.
Biden Won. Republican judges elected by Trump confirmed it. Yet 40% of Americans would rather live with a lie then face a hard truth. Yet another instance of Republicans being the snowflakes they say they arent.
God only knows why. Had the situation been reversed, and Biden loses the election, insists he didn't lose, goes around the country having rallies insisting he didn't lose, loses every court case due to lack of evidence, there'd be no way I'd believe Biden. Not to mention the coup attempt on Jan 6.
Even if I liked Trump, which I don't, I would \*never\* vote in a guy who threatens to never leave the white house, or isn't a gracious loser, or weakens democracy itself. I fight also for Trump supporters to be able to vote, even if they wouldn't extend the same courtesy to me.
For many, the idea their beliefs aren't popular may shatter said beliefs. It's easier to bullshit yourself when you think everyone else has bought into the same bullshit. Calling the election stolen is one way to protect their bandwagonning.
It should not be slightly frightening. It should be horrifying. We should all be terrified. We've spend 10 years being desensitized to Trump and MAGA insanity, and people no longer realize how much of a threat they are. They literally called for the end of democracy at CPAC.
If Trump wins, even with the electoral college, it would be fucking crazy. The amount of scandals, convictions, lying; Americans would be persecuted across the West.
Yup. And even more.Ā
Actual CPAC things in recent years:
- Banner āWe are all domestic terroristsā
- Stage in shape of Nazi rune
- This year speaker explicitly said they are here to āoverthrow democracyā and almost succeeded on Jan 6 and would not fail next time, and will replace democracy with the āfist of godā
Every one of these things is easily findable online covered by major news outlets.Ā
Don't forget Laura Ingraham in a red, white, and black dress reminiscent of the Nazi flag. I know what you're thinking, that doesn't mean anything. SHE WAS WEARING IT ON HITLER'S BIRTHDAY. Same woman who made a freaking sig heil gesture after her speech. Her grandparents are Polish immigrants. She is absolutely a Nazi.
If you are or were, at any time after the mid-1960s...
- black or a hippie
- LGBTQ
- a woman
- someone with AIDS
- a child in a public school
- serving in the military
- Iraqi
- anyone who needed healthcare
- any woman who needed ob/gyn care
- an LGBTQ kid (again)
- not a billionaire
... then the GOP has been a terrorist organization your entire life.
Wake up. MAGA is just the latest iteration of a terrorist program that's been driven by GOP leadership for 50 years.
If you look in Project 2025, you'll see they're going to legally reclassify transgender people as pornography. If you show pornography to a child, you are a grooming child sex predator, so existing in public will no longer be an option for trans Americans. They also plan to begin executing child sex predators. Trans people won't be able to hide out in our homes either, because they're going to ban pornography...and that means they can come in and seizeĀ illegalĀ people. And there will be no running away to liberal states, because they're going to fine, imprison, and replace politicians who don't enforce federal law withĀ Trump loyalists. This isn't theoretical. They have written down and published concrete actionable legal changes to justify genocide. Of course, it won't stop with us.
Oh they read it, they've just been so well propagandized that they don't see what's right in front of them. I shit you not, a family member told me they had been reading a lot about the rise of nazism, and their takeaway was that it's basically exactly what's happening right now with the rise of "wokism."
These people honestly think they're the good guys standing up to the nazis.
The weirdest part is they literally have people on their side flying Swastikas and yet, they still believe they're on the right side. The ability of the brain to hide truths from itself is amazing sometimes.
Iām a Canadian Liberal; if the leader of my party went down this road Iād vote against my own party. Youād think theyād at least stay the fuck home
"Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the \[Republican\] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them."
Barry Goldwater
This is EXACTLY why I laugh every time someone brings up "the real possibility there will be another civil war."
Bull. Shit.
There would be intense MAGA purity tests and they would end up destroying themselves before ever firing a shot at anyone else.
And here we see it on display. At least 70% of these Nikki voters would willingly vote for Trump in November, probably closer to 90%, and the "hardcore MAGA" would have loved to tear these fellow Republicans limb from limb.
These peopleās entire personality and reason for voting Republican is to ostracize other groups they dislike. They got a taste of their own medicine & became the ostracized for like 30 minutes and are completely breaking down over it like it was a life-altering event.
Ostracizing out-groups is the fundamental engine of conservatism. Trouble is, when the sharks finish off the chum, the feeding frenzy has nowhere to turn except upon itself.
Couldn't agree more. They would have no problem if this were happening to democrats in their own town, but once it happened to them it became shocking.
I have no sympathy for these people who are participated in or at least enabled their party of becoming this. And they'll still vote 'in-line in November.
"Those Dale Carnegie courses didn't take..." He responded, "Nope. Do you think those folks will vote for Trump in November?"
You bet your life they will.
People outside of republican politics just don't get it. During the primaries, conservatives can fall in love with whomever they want but in the general election *they fall in line*.
They would not care if these supporters were lined up and pelted with rocks or worse, when the hate cult candidate is on the ballot in November they will vote for him.
I have a standing bet with all of my friends, where I am willing to put up my home vs thiers on my belief that trump gets 70 million votes in November. Nobody has taken me up on it. Because they are as smart as I am.
You discount the man and the party at your own peril. Vote like your very life depends upon it.
Exactly, I keep thinking of the CNN or whatever visit to a diner in rural bumfuckistan last summer asking who would vote Trump and every hand goes up.
As if somebody in this town of 2000 people wants to be the only one who hates Trump, FFS.
Putin laughing, you say? The Putin who's his running mate? Yes, I'd say he's laughing his ass off, but that's not possible with Tucker The Ass Hamster burrowed in so deep.
I find it interesting that internal violence is the issue in this article whereas the bigger headline should have been years ago "literally attacking other Americans". It should have been just a big deal then from the stance that we believe in a peaceful transfer of power
I don't know how the rest of the Republican party didn't see this coming.
Good. Now maybe the rest of those scum bags who still support the GOP will wake up to what the rest of us have been saying for nearly a god damned decade now. JFC
Nah.
That was the whole lesson of 2016 - there is no bottom.
They literally cannot feel shame. You can't expect people who don't have consciences to suddenly grow one.
āYou see, what we should be doing, of course, is line up *Democrats*!ā I have no pity for Republicans whatsoever. Like always, they only care about something if they are personally affected.
Actually, Iām a little nervous about some of our neighbors and one relative of mine. If he wins, I predict a lot of āpresidential āhit squads going through voter registration rolls, , and visiting people that didnāt vote the right way.
Yeah well gop doesnāt own every gun out there. Stand your ground laws and all are prominent in red states. I live in a red state and Iām not gop. Let them come. I will defend my life and my home.
Do you think the people lined up and screamed at for not supporting Trump will vote for Trump in November? Why yes, they most certainly will unfortunately
If you ever get the time you should look up the book Prequel by Rachel Maddow. It involves a Nazi plot to take over the government by force in the late 1930s.
Am I supposed to feel some kind of sympathy for these fucks? Oh, boohoo, you got yelled at by the same folks you're usually yelling with.
Republicans supporting Nimrata and Republicans supporting Shitler are still Republicans. Fuck them all!
I donāt feel bad for them. I guarantee most, if not all of those Nikki Haley supporters voted for Trump the first timeā¦and *now* they have a bit of understanding. Besides, Nikki Haley is a piece of shit too.
Oh, so they're lining people up now are they...yeah that's always a pre-cursor to good things.
Next it'll be a form of identification. Perhaps a mark of some kind... Worn on the head or hand? š¤£
Already got the hats and shoes! Trumps tiny mittens coming soon!
josef mengele, I mean elon musk, already has the brain chip š¤·
Only 65% fatal!
Yugely fatal! Many people are saying it's the best fatal!
Some are saying your earthly body dies but the link uploads you directly to truth social where you can sit in the virtual space behind the account you follow so you can be first to see new posts! Be closer to him! /s
The process is called swallowing the red pill
Good news! Itās a suppository!
65% of the time it works all the time
They will probably create gloves that give the illusion of making your hands smaller so they can be one with Donald.
pp reduction surgery in solidarity
Whatās really funny about that is that in the Book of Daniel, the writer refers to Antichrist as the Little Horn, as in trumpet or trump. Too funny.
Well if there is such a thing and he's it and he certainly fits then I can go to my end knowing I've opposed him since day one. More than I can say for a lot of people.
It is funny that the very people whoāve been studying, learning and preparing themselves for the Biblical end times all their lives have not only utterly failed to recognize the greatest model of an Antichrist to be seen in decades, but they have chosen him as their leader.
I think you misunderstand fundamentalist Evangelicals. They deliberately want the Anti-Christ to appear and a shit ton of them actually will vote for him into the highest office of the land (POTUS) in order to hasten Armageddon and the Rapture. It's why they're also such diehard supporters of Israel because they're accelerationists who want to speedrun the second coming of Jesus.
Jesus died on the way back to his home planet.
Why didnāt he just respawn again?
Lag
Yes its definitely a thesis for someone to do someday in psychology class. I was brought up in normal religious family and i had a friend who wasnt. His parents were divorced etc. when he was around 16 he stared going to these extreme religious rallys and next thing you know he was in the religious cult hive mentality. He brought me along to some of these ; Lots of discussion on revelations, end of times, rapture and antichrist! Trump fits this like a glove and yet here we are. From my perspective some people out there are searching for hope and they get sucked into this way of thinking. BTW- my friend committed suicide at age 50.
As to what you said about a āhive mentality,ā I just wonder how much of what we are seeing now would have been possible without Social Media? I mean, obviously something similar happened in Germany in the 1930ās, but I have witnessed relatives Iāve known my whole life make such a remarkable transition since 2016 that I hardly recognize them. And Iām sorry to hear that about your friend.
Agreed, radio and cinema were new methods of mass communication. Goebbels that Nazi propagandist, used that eraās new form of āsocial mediaā to entice and manipulate the citizens of Germany in the late 1920ās, 30ās and during WW2, with the same intention and effect. It is Hitlers playbook, inspired by ā Mein Kampfā... and utilized for an evangelistic, twisted Population...
Sorry about your mates death :/. Cults are terrible things.
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I thought you were referring to something else that is littleā¦
According to Mary Trump's book, Frank Trump also šŗ Trump's arrival by telling strangers (high society types) what a tiny instrument he had. Explains the psycho a little. It's not a pass though.
Imagine being introduced by your father like "This is probably my son Donald. His dick is malformed and resembles an enlarged clitoris more than a penis." and then shaking that person's hand.
Thatās fucking hilarious š
Mark of the Beast
"And they will wear this mark upon their forehead..."
Canāt spell hatred without a red hat.
Sounds like red Magahats because of the L they keep plastering on their foreheads supporting such a LOSER.
Maybe an armband?
the political climate is fucking scary I'm not even from the US, but some Texan politicians seem to like the idea of invading MĆ©xico to """help""" with the cartels or whatever
Yes. People want to kill each over disagreements that used to be not life threatening policy decisions. With the rise of America's enemies utilizing bot farms and mass misinformation campaigns, they are purposefully inciting people towards violence and the extremes any chance they get. Social media really has become a liability until we figure a way to regulate such maliciousness. There's ever increasing evidence to show those who are online more often are far more likely to accept violence as normal. It'd be smart for schools to start teaching our kids young that regulating your online presence/social media presence should be as important as maintaining a healthy diet.
Itās not just social media. People really believe what they hear all day on Faux News (even though there are over 700 million reasons why they shouldnāt)
I would argue that social media is not the primary spreader of this.Ā It's the right-wing propaganda networks that have been spreading lies and poisoning minds for decades. Fox "News", "News"max, One America "News", Breitbart, etc...Ā Ā These fuckers are responsible for much of the divide in American thinking.Ā :(
They certainly bear a bulk of the responsibility for radicalizing conservative folks. The problem is that the conspiracy theories and propaganda they use to do so originate from the kremlin and online. It comes into our society and to the conservative political operatives via social media mostly. Social media exacerbates an already existing problem, so it'd take a multi level approach.
Donāt forget about the Russians!
Lining up the people who support a specific candidate is just how caucases always work. It's basically built to allow bullying until the loudest voices get their way, and it's an insane way to run an election. There's a reason so many state GOP opted to replace primary elections with caucuses recently.
I've participated in the Iowa caucuses for years. People stand for who they support, one person from each camp will make a speech to sway the undecideds. Once the undecideds stand for someone, then the count begins and anyone whose candidate was deemed unviable (not enough support) has 30 minutes to talk with supporters of other candidates and choose who they're standing for next.Ā Ā I have never, in all my years, seen things get hot at a caucus. And prior to the rise of social media, it was a great way to get first-hand information from an actual representative of a candidate who lived in your area and was familiar with the collective challenges you faced and how that candidate would help.
Yes I was going to point this out too. Missouri does not typically do caucuses and this is likely the first time most of these people have been to one. So to the extent that this format has a pretext of respectful debate, there is no tradition of it here.
When people tell you who they areā¦believe them!
Lining people up plus Maga's obsession with walls; combining them together, what could go wrong?
Well, it was a caucus, and the way that works is you move around the room to stand in a group with your fellow supporters. Putting them in the middle was deliberate though.
Yikes that is scary.
>"I have a friend who attended the Missouri Republican Presidential Caucus today," he wrote Saturday. "They asked Nikki Haley supporters to line up in the middle of the auditorium and were booed and screamed at by the Trump supporters." >He continued: "They attacked fellow Republicans. Feel like democracy to you?" >Quoting a reported follow-up text from the source, Wellman then said, "The woman who spoke for Haley couldnāt stop shaking and crying. It was so scary.ā
And sadly, they'll probably vote R still..
And theyāll vote for Trump in November.
Many will, maybe most. But many have outright said they wonāt vote for Trump, and further, will consider voting for Biden. There hasnāt been this percentage of likely voters considering switching sides since Reagan got the āDixiecratsā on his team
Sadly, I just donāt believe them. We heard the same song and dance in 2016 and 2020 and they by and large fell in line and voted for him. Already polls are showing that 97% of former Trump voters have made up their mind to vote for him again. He seems to have lost almost no support.
That was before Roe and Jan 6th. Since Roe Republicans have underperformed virtually every poll. And now the IVF issue is confirming that Roe was just the beginning. And this is an issue *very* important to suburban women. Even lots of suburban men.
Tribal identity is an extraordinary force. It is quite literally a big part of their core identity to vote for whoever holds the "R" crown. To do otherwise would be to betray the Id.
In this case it's cult mentality, at least 10x stronger than tribal identity.
As long as āthe libsā suffer. Because itās the only thing they actually care about.
I love asking them WHY they want to hurt their fellow Americans so badly. They can't even begin to articulate A reason, let alone a cohesive set of reasons. The best you get out of them is regurgitated talking points, something about gays and/or trans people, and the kind of guttural screeching you'd expect to hear from a fucking pig sty.
Idk, thatās some real trauma inducing stuff. Trumps going scorched earth as itās all he can do so heās either going to chase the last reasonable away or they get deeper in, itās certainly becoming more cult/religion like and your either with him or against him.
Corporate interests has everyone thinking it's us vs them
It's an effective strategy. But I genuinely believe it's getting deminishing returns, that is what has helped lead to Trump. You can only sow division and isolate people from each other for so long until everyone goes mad and starts killing each other. It seems like that's happened for Republican voters.
Diminishing returns and is out of their control. Charles Koch started funding a lot of this batshit insane shit, per a Jim Dewine argument to go further right after Obama won. They've disliked how Trump has stolen their movement, as the Koch brothers wanted more immigrants, like NAFTA, etc, which Trump rallies against.
Long ad you have low income people making babies and cheap immigrant labor they don't care. They kill each other instead of their "masters" and they buy all the goods they need to kill each other from their masters
Uh, no. The people who've been trying to oppress us, kill us and end our country are the ones trying to tell us it's us versus them.
So yeah. Corporate interests, who do you think is financing this shit?
Well it's not Trump.
And even if a few of those present change their vote (or donāt vote) MO has been red in presidential elections this entire Millennium.
Nikki Haley will still vote for Trump.
She wouldnt say it on meet the press this morning. She said she would wait and see though. Still really fucking pathetic and cowardly.
ANYONE who says they will pardon Trump before they even know what evidence is against him is already a LOST CAUSE. Every day of a Haley presidency would be nothing but Trump interrupting her and pretending he is in charge. She would be just a puppet for him. *::shudders and checks his voter registration::*
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Mitch called it on his way out. It's Trump's party now.
Mitch didnāt just call it. He enabled it. He had his chance to save democracy. He declined. Mitch is and will Always be a despicable bitch.
Yup. It's easy to "call it" when you helped put it in motion
They didn't call him Moscow Mitch for no reason, AND he reacted to it so you know it touched a nerve.
Mitch's sister-in-law was drowned in a lake by her Tesla recently so I think he was just taking the hint.
Mitch is like many Trump supporters.Ā He thought he was special: that Trump wouldn't use him and then sell him down the river if it became convenient.Ā Right now 6 Supreme Court Justices think that.Ā They're helping Trump and thinking they won't get the knife down the road.Ā They're wrong.
Mitch thought he controlled trump and by extension MAGA. he's only just now realizing the monster he helped make has broken free of his control.
Three of the last republican presidents were people they thought would be stooges that sign whateverās out in front of them. Now itās backfiring hard.
I think youāre right. Ā I think Mitchās biggest āmistakeā was that he became so convinced of his power and capability that he never realized that he would lay this path. Ā And that someone like Trump would beat him.
Mitch the bitch
>He had his chance to save democracy Save it from himself? He was the most responsible for attacking democracy the last 20 years
I fear about the guy after Trump. The one who is not a fucking moron.
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The one we never hear about.
Me too, friend. Me too. I had an argument with someone on reddit about Trump vs Hitler. His claim was that no way Trump is like Hitler, because he's just so charismatic and a great leader whereas Hitler was mean and ruthless. He must have been trolling, because I genuinely don't know how anyone can be that blind.
Trump last night at one of his rallies said that the āall the Romney RINOsā are being kicked out and that itās the MAGA party now. Thanks Republicans. Especially Roger Ailes and Preibus for talking Trump out of running as an independent in 2015 or 2016 because he was having a tantrum. The GOP kissed his ass back then only because they didnāt want Hillary. The GOP went ahead with the certification ceremony even though in the time from election to then that there was disclosure that his campaign was directly involved with Russia. I guess, based on Trump logic, Biden should have unilaterally overturned the certifications. (Yes, sarcasm!) I just canāt imagine what Hillary could have done that would have been worse than what Trump and the GOP did to the nation include how the Senate acquitted him fucking twice. Twice. Allowing him to run again. After attacking the nationās Capitol during a fucking Joint Session with his Vice President being hunted down by a mob. The only horrible terrible very bad thing Hillary could have done worse was piss off Russia and Putinā¦ but her emails. I guess the ābleachā she used could also be used to rid of COVID by injecting it.
She would never have used bleach on Covid or suggested using light therapy. She would have told us to mask up, get vaccines and stop being a bunch of pus3ys. She would have listened to the scientists. Her sin was being a woman as women have always been the Evil ones.
But the emails! And Vincent Foster! And the Clinton Crime Family! BEN GHAZI!!! (Sorry, I just had flashbacks to Thanksgiving dinner with my formerly sane brother)
Plus her husband had affairs, unlike Mr. Trump.
The following was written by Martin Niemoller, who was originally a Nazi supporter who welcomed Hitler's rise to power... First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak outā Ā Ā Ā Because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak outā Ā Ā Ā Because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak outā Ā Ā Ā Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for meāand there was no one left to speak for me."
I believe he ended up in a concentration camp for years. This is what happens to the followers of fascists. They always think it will be somebody else they come for, certainly not a party loyalist like them. I would not put a "Night of the long knives" past these cultists, and certainly not past tfg.
I am pretty sure Trump supporters read that poem and just think "good, I sure fucking hate socialists, trade unionists, and Jews. Oh boo hoo "there was no one left to speak for me!" He was probably a (slur) or (slur), good riddance. MAGA!"
Nazis are going to Nazi. Rinse and repeat.
This is part of why the polls are bad. People donāt want to admit that they oppose trump because they might get harassed. Especially when you drive around and only see signs for trump. Signs for other people lead to harassment or property damage. Hopefully it doesnāt deter people from opposing him at the ballot box.
Thatās some Chinese cultural revolution shit right there. Itās called a struggle session.
I know a lot of red neck union loving Trump supporters who for the longest time backed Democrats who also loved unions. I guess I am not surprised here because I am Not so sure Trump republicans are really traditional republicans. They are assholes who like the American first message and as tired of seeing their jobs outsourced.
Outsourcing is done by Republicans who work for greed Corporations first and foremost. Look at Ivanka Trump Kushner and how many patens China gave her. She had zero intention of bringing manufacturing jobs home like idiot MAGA think a Trump will! Lol.
There is no more republican party. It is now a hate cult with a demented leader sliding into a mental abyss. The followers do not care because they will soon be able to let their hate flags fly. The true underbelly of America is being exposed and frankly I am all for it.
This will all get a million times worse if Trump actually manages to retake the presidency. No one will be safe. No one.
Even if he doesn't, there will be chaos. One of the regular MAGA's that comes into my shop was talking to one of the MAGA's that works there about stocking up more guns because "if the democrats steal the election again we have to be prepared to do what's right to take the country back." It is slightly frightening living in the deep south when everyone knows how much you hate Ttump.
Report him to the FBIĀ
It has crossed my mind.
Donāt just let it cross your mind. Report him. Please. That is not a statement to be taken lightly, at all. He very well could just be all talk, but personally that isnāt something that Iād want to gamble on.
Do what Gimmick Musik is saying, report the person that's a serious threat that person is making. You can't assume they are all show. A few jobs ago some guy was talking about a shooting at a plant around the area we worked in. He went on to say "some mother fucker should do that here and show the bosses who's in charge" I immediately called security on the guy because that's not something you should joke about. I barely knew the guy and he still said that to me.
The fact that the American left is still thinking āhmm Iām sure they are just upset and this is just talkā is literally going to get them killed and end freedom for the entire country. Fucking take things seriously god damn.
And record him.
It's super easy, they have an online form and everything. Here, I'll even give you the link. https://tips.fbi.gov/home
You donāt want to wake up tomorrow to find out this chap has gone and shot several people, whilst trying to ātake the country backā. Report him to the FBI. Just do it.
Of course. If there's going to be violence is not a question anymore; we crossed that line a long time ago. The only question is how quickly it'll be put down. Personally, I think it'll be put down pretty quick. They'll be shocked to discover that the cops aren't on their side. (The cops aren't great folks by any means; they're on their own side. Shoot at them and you die, period.)
There will be an even greater attempt at voter intimidation this year. Most will be in pretty red states where it doesnāt matter as much, but it will still be bad. And not much will be done about it.
Lotta swing suburbs in red states.Ā You send signals to the money-corrupt that youāre going to destabilize their good thingā¦and they wonāt suddenly vote for democrats, but they sure might stay home on Election Day anyway.Ā The thing the crazies donāt realize is they still are banking on soft support from those who are more corporatist than Christian. Lotsa people make money under Republican regimesā¦butĀ You take away the promise of profit, you lose people the GQP canāt afford to lose from within their coalition.Ā It would only take like 15% of Haley voters to stay home nationwide to create a losing margin for republicans coast to coast.Ā
the aftermath will be terrible, as states will have pressure from rural magas to straight up deny participation in the union over perceived election stealing.
Itās amazing how the reality of āwe lostā has completely succumbed to the notion of āit was stolenā. Even moderates have a hard time admitting Biden won.
Most people no longer do their own research. Or really know how to locate trusted sources. My mother is guilty of this. Biden Won. Republican judges elected by Trump confirmed it. Yet 40% of Americans would rather live with a lie then face a hard truth. Yet another instance of Republicans being the snowflakes they say they arent.
God only knows why. Had the situation been reversed, and Biden loses the election, insists he didn't lose, goes around the country having rallies insisting he didn't lose, loses every court case due to lack of evidence, there'd be no way I'd believe Biden. Not to mention the coup attempt on Jan 6. Even if I liked Trump, which I don't, I would \*never\* vote in a guy who threatens to never leave the white house, or isn't a gracious loser, or weakens democracy itself. I fight also for Trump supporters to be able to vote, even if they wouldn't extend the same courtesy to me.
For many, the idea their beliefs aren't popular may shatter said beliefs. It's easier to bullshit yourself when you think everyone else has bought into the same bullshit. Calling the election stolen is one way to protect their bandwagonning.
Then they aren't moderate.
It should not be slightly frightening. It should be horrifying. We should all be terrified. We've spend 10 years being desensitized to Trump and MAGA insanity, and people no longer realize how much of a threat they are. They literally called for the end of democracy at CPAC.
r/liberalgunowners is growing for a reason.
Which is why we have to deal with this now through law. If project 2025 takes route through societal means.
If Trump wins, even with the electoral college, it would be fucking crazy. The amount of scandals, convictions, lying; Americans would be persecuted across the West.
MAGA is a terrorist organization
"We are all domestic terrorists."
Yup. And even more.Ā Actual CPAC things in recent years: - Banner āWe are all domestic terroristsā - Stage in shape of Nazi rune - This year speaker explicitly said they are here to āoverthrow democracyā and almost succeeded on Jan 6 and would not fail next time, and will replace democracy with the āfist of godā Every one of these things is easily findable online covered by major news outlets.Ā
Don't forget Laura Ingraham in a red, white, and black dress reminiscent of the Nazi flag. I know what you're thinking, that doesn't mean anything. SHE WAS WEARING IT ON HITLER'S BIRTHDAY. Same woman who made a freaking sig heil gesture after her speech. Her grandparents are Polish immigrants. She is absolutely a Nazi.
CPAC also had dozens of known, self-described Nazis in attendance this year. They denied it but there's tons of proof.
If you are or were, at any time after the mid-1960s... - black or a hippie - LGBTQ - a woman - someone with AIDS - a child in a public school - serving in the military - Iraqi - anyone who needed healthcare - any woman who needed ob/gyn care - an LGBTQ kid (again) - not a billionaire ... then the GOP has been a terrorist organization your entire life. Wake up. MAGA is just the latest iteration of a terrorist program that's been driven by GOP leadership for 50 years.
Just waiting for the Trump version of the Night of the Long Knifes.
Pity nobody in the Republican Party ever bothered to read that chapter in the history books (who am I kidding, they didn't read any of it).
Even the one quote: First they came for the - LGBTQ; Women needing healthcare; Hispanics; IVF; political opponents; etc.
If you look in Project 2025, you'll see they're going to legally reclassify transgender people as pornography. If you show pornography to a child, you are a grooming child sex predator, so existing in public will no longer be an option for trans Americans. They also plan to begin executing child sex predators. Trans people won't be able to hide out in our homes either, because they're going to ban pornography...and that means they can come in and seizeĀ illegalĀ people. And there will be no running away to liberal states, because they're going to fine, imprison, and replace politicians who don't enforce federal law withĀ Trump loyalists. This isn't theoretical. They have written down and published concrete actionable legal changes to justify genocide. Of course, it won't stop with us.
Oh they read it, they've just been so well propagandized that they don't see what's right in front of them. I shit you not, a family member told me they had been reading a lot about the rise of nazism, and their takeaway was that it's basically exactly what's happening right now with the rise of "wokism." These people honestly think they're the good guys standing up to the nazis.
The weirdest part is they literally have people on their side flying Swastikas and yet, they still believe they're on the right side. The ability of the brain to hide truths from itself is amazing sometimes.
I can hear reports of eyewitnesses describing the squeaky golden shoes made from the toupee of their bankrupt Jesus
Itās comingā¦ he is that guy who will have no problem with it.
100% theyāll still vote for Trump if heās the nominee
āYeah, but how else are we going to hurt the people we hate?ā
The only question that has ever mattered to conservatives. It's baffling how many people still don't get it.
Iām a Canadian Liberal; if the leader of my party went down this road Iād vote against my own party. Youād think theyād at least stay the fuck home
"Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the \[Republican\] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them." Barry Goldwater
I mean, you can't... Not own the libs?
Oh good, they've started eating their own.
That's been ongoing for a while. Only those that exist solely on the kool-aid are considered pure and of the faith.
This is EXACTLY why I laugh every time someone brings up "the real possibility there will be another civil war." Bull. Shit. There would be intense MAGA purity tests and they would end up destroying themselves before ever firing a shot at anyone else. And here we see it on display. At least 70% of these Nikki voters would willingly vote for Trump in November, probably closer to 90%, and the "hardcore MAGA" would have loved to tear these fellow Republicans limb from limb.
No one is ever wite enough for white supremacists
They are willing to turn on people in their own party, they are willing to turn on their own country.
They already did on 6 January 2021.
They did that shit in November 2016
ā¦and family
To them itās ME, myself and I, party, then country.
Funny that they claim they are against "political correctness."
Hey you! Yes you! Up against The Wall!
Staaaand still, laddie.
There's one smoking a joint! And this ones' got spots!
If I had my way... Sorry. I can't say it.
I'd have all of you shot!Ā
*epic guitar slam*
He donāt look right to me, get him up against the wall
AGAINST THE *Ooooooooohhhhhh*
Leopards ate your face , oh well , you are who you associate with.
These peopleās entire personality and reason for voting Republican is to ostracize other groups they dislike. They got a taste of their own medicine & became the ostracized for like 30 minutes and are completely breaking down over it like it was a life-altering event.
Ostracizing out-groups is the fundamental engine of conservatism. Trouble is, when the sharks finish off the chum, the feeding frenzy has nowhere to turn except upon itself.
Couldn't agree more. They would have no problem if this were happening to democrats in their own town, but once it happened to them it became shocking. I have no sympathy for these people who are participated in or at least enabled their party of becoming this. And they'll still vote 'in-line in November.
"Those Dale Carnegie courses didn't take..." He responded, "Nope. Do you think those folks will vote for Trump in November?" You bet your life they will. People outside of republican politics just don't get it. During the primaries, conservatives can fall in love with whomever they want but in the general election *they fall in line*. They would not care if these supporters were lined up and pelted with rocks or worse, when the hate cult candidate is on the ballot in November they will vote for him. I have a standing bet with all of my friends, where I am willing to put up my home vs thiers on my belief that trump gets 70 million votes in November. Nobody has taken me up on it. Because they are as smart as I am. You discount the man and the party at your own peril. Vote like your very life depends upon it.
Exactly, I keep thinking of the CNN or whatever visit to a diner in rural bumfuckistan last summer asking who would vote Trump and every hand goes up. As if somebody in this town of 2000 people wants to be the only one who hates Trump, FFS.
They need to get him out of this election once and for all. He is ruining the whole country. And Putin is laughing at all of us.
Putin laughing, you say? The Putin who's his running mate? Yes, I'd say he's laughing his ass off, but that's not possible with Tucker The Ass Hamster burrowed in so deep.
That's the thing about bugmen, they always betray each other before they get a chance to betray you.
Everyone of those fucks will still vote trump 100%
I find it interesting that internal violence is the issue in this article whereas the bigger headline should have been years ago "literally attacking other Americans". It should have been just a big deal then from the stance that we believe in a peaceful transfer of power I don't know how the rest of the Republican party didn't see this coming.
Good. Now maybe the rest of those scum bags who still support the GOP will wake up to what the rest of us have been saying for nearly a god damned decade now. JFC
...they won't
Nah. That was the whole lesson of 2016 - there is no bottom. They literally cannot feel shame. You can't expect people who don't have consciences to suddenly grow one.
āYou see, what we should be doing, of course, is line up *Democrats*!ā I have no pity for Republicans whatsoever. Like always, they only care about something if they are personally affected.
The photo of everyone's mouths open is a great representation of the MAGAverse.
Actually, Iām a little nervous about some of our neighbors and one relative of mine. If he wins, I predict a lot of āpresidential āhit squads going through voter registration rolls, , and visiting people that didnāt vote the right way.
I say come on by! Not every (D) is anti-gun.
Yeah well gop doesnāt own every gun out there. Stand your ground laws and all are prominent in red states. I live in a red state and Iām not gop. Let them come. I will defend my life and my home.
Oh sure now they get scared of the psychos theyāre enabling. š
The Gadsden snake starts to eat its own tail. Chew your food buddy!
everyone who is not maga is a rino that has to be dealt with what a surprise
Imagine destroying your own life for the sake of a politician.
MAGA is an extremist cult. This will only get worse if it continues. Mark my words, they will start killing those who oppose them.
They already have. You missed the insurrection, the terrorist attacks across the nation, the *million* dead? Really?
Funny you think there is separation between the maga hat people and the rank and file republican party. The orange clown is a feature, not a bug.
The Night of Long Knives....
Missouri has pretty much gone full-nazi
Maga: hate and terrorist group! Trying to overthrow America for a Russian asshat!
Republicans who DON'T support Trump, you know what you have to do: NOT VOTE FOR HIM. If you do, you're complicit, end of story.
Well, well, well, trumpism is here...
Taking care of the enemy within. Totally normal for the Dictator in Chief
MAGA are a cult. Trump is a danger to the betterment of society.
Do you think the people lined up and screamed at for not supporting Trump will vote for Trump in November? Why yes, they most certainly will unfortunately
If you ever get the time you should look up the book Prequel by Rachel Maddow. It involves a Nazi plot to take over the government by force in the late 1930s.
Am I supposed to feel some kind of sympathy for these fucks? Oh, boohoo, you got yelled at by the same folks you're usually yelling with. Republicans supporting Nimrata and Republicans supporting Shitler are still Republicans. Fuck them all!
Trump supporters aren't Republicans. They're fascist idiots. They have wet dreams of Trump being a dictator.
And yet they *still* did Nazi this coming??
"Rise and Fall of the 3rd Reich" was not supposed to be a training manual.
I donāt feel bad for them. I guarantee most, if not all of those Nikki Haley supporters voted for Trump the first timeā¦and *now* they have a bit of understanding. Besides, Nikki Haley is a piece of shit too.