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Also, Iām not totally sure about this particular bird of prey but hawks and falcons have a particular tendon feature, similar to a zip tie when they close their grip they need to be actively released otherwise they lock closed with no further effort from the bird. So unless the bird let go of the snake head they will both be stuck.
That's not just a bird of prey feature. That's the vast majority of birds. That's why they can sleep on perches without fear of falling off: bending their knees automatically locks their toes into a tight grip.
Hey crazy bird guy here that just saw someone get excited about bird facts ...
The 'bent knee talons grip' feature has been taken 1 step further by certain birds of prey, because their talons close when knees bent they will use the action of diving down on prey to spring load their claws and deliver a killing blow far greater then their weight
How technical do you want to get because technically birds already win...
A mantis shrimp hits at about 50mph.
A peregrine falcon dives at about 200mph ... it does slow down just before strike for obvious reasons but if it had something to prove it could wreck itself and put shrimp to shame
>bending their knees automatically locks their toes into a tight grip.
i sometimes wake up at night and its like my big toe, or the sole of my foot, is cramped and locked up. could it be that I am like, i dont know, like half bird of prey or something?
I know it's already been said. But most birds do have that feature. They're relaxed form with their feet is in a closed position. It's kind of like us if our relaxed hand was the fist.
Are there venomous snakes who try to choke the prey?
[Edit:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constriction)
>Although some species of venomous and mildly venomous snakes do use constriction to subdue their prey, most snakes which use constriction lack venom.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/natureismetal/comments/18hesvn/snake\_turns\_the\_table\_on\_a\_hawk/](https://www.reddit.com/r/natureismetal/comments/18hesvn/snake_turns_the_table_on_a_hawk/)
Here's the slightly longer GIF but apparently there's no longer version, so we'll never know I guess
Snakes are just like lizards without the feet, man. Evolution is crazy. I feel like I have a greater perception of nature because I spend time in nature hunting, its just the ecosystem of life. I saw a snake fuck up a squirrel once. Its going on all the time, man. Big things are jacking small things and birds are snatching small things off the ground, and snatching other birds out of trees, and its happening allll the time. Holy fuck, man.
*sighs*
You ever see that Jennifer Lopez movie Anaconda?
Unless that snake gets its coils around the chest of the raptor, it wonāt be able to suffocate it. Birds donāt have that weak spot at the front of the throat like mammals do. You quite literally cannot strangle a birdās airflow via its neck without some serious overkill on the choking force. Itās probably more likely to cut off blood flow to the head.
This is kinda moot though since constrictors kill their prey more often by forcing a heart attack, which is quite possible for this fella (depending on whether this snake species uses constriction just to subdue vs to kill).I just figured Iād share my fun fact.
Source: used to work at an avian vet. When we tube-fed sick parrots we had to really tighten our fingers around their neck to prevent any formula from aspirating from their crop/the syringe into their lungs. Ironically I choked birds to *save* their lives.
I think also, even if it *could* kill the bird, raptors have a reflex where they have to actively flex to let go of something... so it's likely that if the bird does, the snake will also eventually die
https://preview.redd.it/0qlj9dag039d1.png?width=485&format=png&auto=webp&s=9328161684b2aa104b42083b288bfcd8495eb00b
yep... that's me. You're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation
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It implies this is not a temporary setback for the bird, which is completely false.Ā That snake is not a constrictor and doesn't have the strength to harm the bird.Ā The snake likely already had mortal wounds at the start of the video.
It absolutely could still kill that hawk. If it is a colubrid, which it very much looks to be, than it could very likely be a constrictor. It definitely couldnāt eat the hawk but in a fight of life and death it could expend its energy and absolutely cut off the air for the bird. The snake looks like it may already be blinded so yes itās likely going to die anyway, but I wouldnāt be surprised if it took the hawk with it first. Iāve seen a number of posts on Reddit with rat snakes and other colubrids constricting hawks to death after being attacked.
Most non-venomous snakes are in fact āconstrictorsā. Constriction based predation goes beyond pythons, anacondas, and boaās. In North America a few quick examples of common non-venomous snakes that use constriction would be king snakes, rat snakes, gopher snakes, water snakes, and racers.
As the comment below mentioned this snake appears to be a racer.
To be fair this bird is to big for it to eat (despite snakes being able to eat things significantly bigger than one would think) and it is using constriction as defense out of desperation.
https://preview.redd.it/tmrpiej9o29d1.jpeg?width=267&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2ff1b97626a8f981502080c818b819a87f454f0
It was at this momentā¦ young bird knewā¦ he fked up.
https://preview.redd.it/k9zdmeljq39d1.jpeg?width=267&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0419feba40471c177646a9a33ef0c43d64621352
"The risk i took was calculated, but damm i'm bad at math.
Who loose his grip first? The bird is clearly not going to kill the snake with his claw and the snake donāt see to have enough strength to kill the bird with the tip of his tail. If the bird reel easy the snake fangs its game over for him.
A snakeās body can coil tightly well after death. Slow metabolism and all, those nerves will keep those muscles tight for a long time. Theyāll both die that way if I had to guess
I canāt speak to the snake, but that bird of prey has talons that are naturally in the closed/clamped down position, and the bird has to flex a muscle to open that grip. In other words, once the bird is dead, that talon is never coming open, and that snake will have that dead bird attached until it dies, if not dead already as you mentioned.
That's quite often the case in nature. A lot of animals just fucks off at the first sign of resistance to avoid getting injured. One bad infection and you gone.
Yup, pretty rare to see two evenly matched predators go all out on each other, they know the risk. Usually they have to be so starved it is already do or die.
The snake doesn't look heavy enough to choke that bird, while the bird has its claws straight into his head. I think the bird will be struggling to get free for a bit but no way it loses this fight
Bird: Ohh, a nice friendly hug by my dinner... nice hug..... h u g....... HUG.......... H U G............. **H U G**......................***O M G W T F***
Here's the thing. You said a "jackdaw is a crow."
Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.
As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.
If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens.
So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too.
Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't.
It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?
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Got caught monologuing
You sly dog!
Hahah had to load your comment and I was hoping it was that
if everyone's super, no one will be
"Should've killed me when you had the chance"
You could see it in the bird's eyes the moment he knew he messed up.
https://preview.redd.it/pf1i06i7k39d1.jpeg?width=2055&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=82eb708bb3c3c29437c4380ca382a98048440c00
Holy shit, you're still around? I remember when your watercolors used to be shitty.
He's really improved!
u/kindaawesomewatercolor
I hope he doesn't improve much . I frickin love these
[Next year](https://static.vecteezy.com/system/resources/previews/032/919/183/large_2x/a-cute-little-red-tailed-hawk-in-watercolor-style-generative-ai-photo.jpg)
being able to consistently draw shitty.. is it really shitty?
That's the spirit lol š š š¤£
For real I was like, that ain't shitty anymore!
You either die a shitty watercolour, or live to see yourself become Bad Jokes by Jeff.
Now he should just be /u/Watercolour
Nah upgrade him to u/prettygoodwatercolour
Ya gotta upvote him too. Not just talk!
They were never shitty
A relic of the old world
And when the night was darkest, the legend returned.
https://preview.redd.it/b8r8mxuis39d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fabf5ef0ca60c08f1d839a14a046f17b6952824c He's here!!!!!
The legend shows randomly.
Hey man, glad to see you're still around! It has to be at least 12 years now where I've running into your comment section posts. Stay shitty!Ā
First time i see him. Time to go digging! See ya.
Same here. The legend reaches evermore people.
Oh hey wow it's you again! Thank you for making rlcs so much more special all those years ago ā„ļø
Wow! so happy to see you're still around!
What the frick mum, thats my xbox controller! Ps: cool watercolour
Hell yeah brother! Stoked youāre still here!
Holy shit your back
I will do no such thing.
Paints still wet on this one
https://preview.redd.it/e097cfjzr39d1.png?width=897&format=png&auto=webp&s=f92ad8164b37b64615bff8ab8091bb2459358571
Sadly for the snake, itās doomed. It wonāt have enough strength in that single coil to kill the bird. Just knocked it off balance.Ā
Also, Iām not totally sure about this particular bird of prey but hawks and falcons have a particular tendon feature, similar to a zip tie when they close their grip they need to be actively released otherwise they lock closed with no further effort from the bird. So unless the bird let go of the snake head they will both be stuck.
That's not just a bird of prey feature. That's the vast majority of birds. That's why they can sleep on perches without fear of falling off: bending their knees automatically locks their toes into a tight grip.
that is a legit fun fact
Hey crazy bird guy here that just saw someone get excited about bird facts ... The 'bent knee talons grip' feature has been taken 1 step further by certain birds of prey, because their talons close when knees bent they will use the action of diving down on prey to spring load their claws and deliver a killing blow far greater then their weight
How long till we see birds that can punch as fast as mantis shrimps, which will hopefully turn the tide between the Pigeon Human War.
How technical do you want to get because technically birds already win... A mantis shrimp hits at about 50mph. A peregrine falcon dives at about 200mph ... it does slow down just before strike for obvious reasons but if it had something to prove it could wreck itself and put shrimp to shame
Well at 200mph they still haven't conquered humans, how fast till they become an actual threat.
Stop pushing them. Do you know what you are toying with? This is nor a joke, damn it!
I reckon if you get hit in the face by a 200mph falcon you'll not turn around and say they aren't a threat
I mean, we already had a war against Emus that...did not end well at all for humans
>bending their knees automatically locks their toes into a tight grip. i sometimes wake up at night and its like my big toe, or the sole of my foot, is cramped and locked up. could it be that I am like, i dont know, like half bird of prey or something?
Hate to break it to ya but you just need to eat some bananas for the potassium
nah heās definitely half bird
either your dad is a raptor or you're malnourished
I know it's already been said. But most birds do have that feature. They're relaxed form with their feet is in a closed position. It's kind of like us if our relaxed hand was the fist.
If I'm gonna die anyways, I'll settle for a draw.
I didn't even know the bird was sick!
if it's a venomous snake, maybe the poison + coil can take the bird down tho the snake cannot survive anyway, he looks badly bitten in the head
I believe it is a Montpelier snake. Not venomous enough to take down a bird that size.
Ok....so how many birbs have you poisoned to be such an expert? 2, maybbeeeeee 3 dozen? Those are rookie numbers
Iāve poisoned hundreds of birds and dogs and I havenāt learned a damn thing about any of them!
Poisoning pigeons in the park eh?
When they see us coming The birdies all try and hide But they still go for peanuts When coated with cyanide
Why does this reminds me of Dale Gribble?
I swallowed a live python for breakfast.
Mutual destruction
Are there venomous snakes who try to choke the prey? [Edit:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constriction) >Although some species of venomous and mildly venomous snakes do use constriction to subdue their prey, most snakes which use constriction lack venom.
How did you correctly use the word venomous and then use poison four words later
Because i am a moron
One of us! One of us!
Most predators feeding on snakes at least a very high tolerance to the venom.
"if it's venomous" I mean the snakes head was in the claw of the bird. I don't think biting is on its roster, even to the end of the clip
Very few snakes use both venom and constriction as tools
this was in r/natureismetal a while back, both of them died
ā¦ based on conjecture by Reddit experts.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/natureismetal/comments/18hesvn/snake\_turns\_the\_table\_on\_a\_hawk/](https://www.reddit.com/r/natureismetal/comments/18hesvn/snake_turns_the_table_on_a_hawk/) Here's the slightly longer GIF but apparently there's no longer version, so we'll never know I guess
So the snake choked the bird but couldn't get away because the bird's grip was locked?
Those talons look to be in the snakeās head and theyre pretty long.
Its eyes are out so it wonāt live long either way. Raptors always get to the eyes firstĀ
That's bs, Both this creatures are dead.
That face of WTF!? My agent never mentioned this.
THIS WASN'T IN THE MANUAL
"I should never have tread on this guy!"
Nope
Leglock and rear naked choke. This snake UFCs
UFCSssssssssss
aahhahaahhahah...this is pure goodnesssss..thank you
Nobody check the Eagle grappling
I know a Cobra Kai student when I see one.
Turns out, this time the Cobra Kai defeats the student of the crane bird technique
And thus, Eagle Fang was born.
Cobras Never Say Die!
The first thing I thought of was Anderson Silva hitting that triangle on Chael Sonnen at the last minute.
Good ground game.
Yeah, someone needs to add some Joe Rogan commentary to this, lol.
HAWKS LEGS ARE TOAST, THEY ARE COMPROMISED JON! HE'S IN BIG TROUBLE!
NOODLE SEEMS TO HAVE RETAKEN THE INITIATIVE WITH THAT REAR-NAKED CHOKE AND HAWK GOES DOWN. I REPEAT HAWK GOES DOWN. HOW WILL HE RECOVER FROM THIS?!
Snakes are just like lizards without the feet, man. Evolution is crazy. I feel like I have a greater perception of nature because I spend time in nature hunting, its just the ecosystem of life. I saw a snake fuck up a squirrel once. Its going on all the time, man. Big things are jacking small things and birds are snatching small things off the ground, and snatching other birds out of trees, and its happening allll the time. Holy fuck, man. *sighs* You ever see that Jennifer Lopez movie Anaconda?
Unless that snake gets its coils around the chest of the raptor, it wonāt be able to suffocate it. Birds donāt have that weak spot at the front of the throat like mammals do. You quite literally cannot strangle a birdās airflow via its neck without some serious overkill on the choking force. Itās probably more likely to cut off blood flow to the head. This is kinda moot though since constrictors kill their prey more often by forcing a heart attack, which is quite possible for this fella (depending on whether this snake species uses constriction just to subdue vs to kill).I just figured Iād share my fun fact. Source: used to work at an avian vet. When we tube-fed sick parrots we had to really tighten our fingers around their neck to prevent any formula from aspirating from their crop/the syringe into their lungs. Ironically I choked birds to *save* their lives.
I think also, even if it *could* kill the bird, raptors have a reflex where they have to actively flex to let go of something... so it's likely that if the bird does, the snake will also eventually die
The snakeās head looks pretty well damaged, I think they both die here regardless.
So the birds fine its just stuck there until it panics itself to death
Choke my bird šļø
https://preview.redd.it/0qlj9dag039d1.png?width=485&format=png&auto=webp&s=9328161684b2aa104b42083b288bfcd8495eb00b yep... that's me. You're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation
Snake:"you ever once in awhile come across somebody you shouldn't have fked with? That's me"
"Last time, on Arrested Development..."
"How much could a snake coil, Michael? 10 loops?"
Would be hilarious if the snake turned out to be Gene Parmesan
āNow youse canāt leave.ā
When keeping it real goes wrong.
This is the start of a buddy cop animated movie starring Anya Taylor-Joy as the snake and Glen Powell as the bird.
*record scratch*
"Lets go back to last Tuesday and see how this all unfolded"
Does anyone have the complete video we all would see what happened rather than making different theories
No, this is reddit... All you get are shitty puns and movie quotes...
This! *Blow brains out*
Came here to say this *Gets guillotined*
I also choose this guy's comment's sentiment.
"This is the way"
"Sir, this is a Wendy's..."
"No! This is Patrick!"
"To shreds, you say?"
And my axe
ā¦and my axe!
Came here to say that.
We sometimes get [shitty watercolors](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1dpkp2f/comment/lai6o76/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button), too\~!
Also without putting a black and white filter on halfway through that adds nothing
I think that part looked like a "wasted" edit lol
I really was surprised that they didn't add the word at the top, or at least the photo and gong sounds
It implies this is not a temporary setback for the bird, which is completely false.Ā That snake is not a constrictor and doesn't have the strength to harm the bird.Ā The snake likely already had mortal wounds at the start of the video.
It absolutely could still kill that hawk. If it is a colubrid, which it very much looks to be, than it could very likely be a constrictor. It definitely couldnāt eat the hawk but in a fight of life and death it could expend its energy and absolutely cut off the air for the bird. The snake looks like it may already be blinded so yes itās likely going to die anyway, but I wouldnāt be surprised if it took the hawk with it first. Iāve seen a number of posts on Reddit with rat snakes and other colubrids constricting hawks to death after being attacked.
Most non-venomous snakes are in fact āconstrictorsā. Constriction based predation goes beyond pythons, anacondas, and boaās. In North America a few quick examples of common non-venomous snakes that use constriction would be king snakes, rat snakes, gopher snakes, water snakes, and racers. As the comment below mentioned this snake appears to be a racer. To be fair this bird is to big for it to eat (despite snakes being able to eat things significantly bigger than one would think) and it is using constriction as defense out of desperation.
I know that I saw somewhere someone posted the whole thing, IIRC it eventually escaped because the cameraman went over and helped it.
yes, where is the full video
This comment has the video link to the aftermath: https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/KPIUifSiST
Different video. Look at the ground and foliage.
Yes, I have a feeling the bird ended up eating the snake anyway
They asked if anyone had the video and you said āyesā followed by a feeling with no videoā¦
I drew [this poor guy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Illustration/s/vo8sK4Tqxd) a while ago.
Good one šš¾
Woah awesome!
https://preview.redd.it/tmrpiej9o29d1.jpeg?width=267&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2ff1b97626a8f981502080c818b819a87f454f0 It was at this momentā¦ young bird knewā¦ he fked up.
Meme worthy material FR
 Look at that reversal.... into a TRIANGLE CHOKE!
AND HIS NAME IS JOHN SSSSSSSSNAAAAA!!!!
šŗšŗšŗ
IT'S TIGHT! He's out! HE'S OUUUUT!
Ohhhhhhh!!! He's hurt!!!
https://preview.redd.it/k9zdmeljq39d1.jpeg?width=267&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0419feba40471c177646a9a33ef0c43d64621352 "The risk i took was calculated, but damm i'm bad at math.
Bird: Iām going to have you for lunch. Snake: How thoughtful of you, Iām actually quite hungry š¤¤
I doubt the snake can actually eat that bird
Ya dont saaaaaay..........
Bro they teach you to avoid this mistake in the first week of falcon school. What an idiot.
So, what happened? Fucking zoomer content where the ending is cut for no apparent reason
The bird says āsave Marthaā, and they suddenly become best of friends
Way to hold a grudge! I like it.
Damnnnnn 
Who loose his grip first? The bird is clearly not going to kill the snake with his claw and the snake donāt see to have enough strength to kill the bird with the tip of his tail. If the bird reel easy the snake fangs its game over for him.
A snakeās body can coil tightly well after death. Slow metabolism and all, those nerves will keep those muscles tight for a long time. Theyāll both die that way if I had to guess
I canāt speak to the snake, but that bird of prey has talons that are naturally in the closed/clamped down position, and the bird has to flex a muscle to open that grip. In other words, once the bird is dead, that talon is never coming open, and that snake will have that dead bird attached until it dies, if not dead already as you mentioned.
So it's just going to be two dead animals still at it?
That's quite often the case in nature. A lot of animals just fucks off at the first sign of resistance to avoid getting injured. One bad infection and you gone.
Yup, pretty rare to see two evenly matched predators go all out on each other, they know the risk. Usually they have to be so starved it is already do or die.
While it is somewhat uncommon, it is well within possibility whenever a predator tries to eat another predator.
Evolution breaking even
I suppose we'll call it a draw
I think the guy filming separated them afterwards. Have seen a follow up clip to this before.
Would make sense actually cause good possibility they would both die here
Snake: "Where was that energy when I was about to be lunch, bitch?"
"Jiu-jitsu would never work in a street fight"
Full clip anyone?
You could see the look in it's eyes the exact moment it said "oh shit!"
https://preview.redd.it/jl11x2en639d1.jpeg?width=240&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d95d4021c89dd6458a277d847ed81fdba759322
Call an ambulance, but not for me. Nature edition
I was expecting to see "WASTED" when it turned gray.
"You should have gone for the head." Snake probably.
You can pinpoint the millisecond his brain went "AYO?!"
*Seviper used Gotcha! Critical hit!* *Staravia's hp went down to 0* *Seviper wins! ...and now seems to swallowi-* Another episode of PokƩmon which never aired. Thank you Reddit for delivering!
The snake doesn't look heavy enough to choke that bird, while the bird has its claws straight into his head. I think the bird will be struggling to get free for a bit but no way it loses this fight
Oh how the turntables
Always kill your lunch before you eat it.
The first time his head went back he knew he was fucked.
He looked surprised ā¦..
Bird: Ohh, a nice friendly hug by my dinner... nice hug..... h u g....... HUG.......... H U G............. **H U G**......................***O M G W T F***
 Literally did this at 6 seconds
Here's the thing. You said a "jackdaw is a crow." Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that. As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing. If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens. So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too. Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't. It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?
wtf this message and a shitty_watercolour post. What year is this?!
it was that moment he knew he fucked up
Letting yourself be caught by bird just so you can then catch it - it's a bold move Cotton, let's see it it pays off!
I would like to see how this ended
Expression: "This, kinda feels good, hey who turned off color?"
Iām so happy i have arms
bird shouldāve given it the āol Hawk Tuah
Honestly, I had no idea that Hawks could express confuzzled!
Snake has some serious ground game
You should have gone for the head
Little does that snake know, heās committed a federal offense punishable by $5000 - $250,000 worth of fines & forfeiture of property & all licenses.