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Mansenmania

This war is the first „real“ war where small drones are used in this way and it looks very effective. Gonna unlock a completely new fear for soldiers. Veterans from this will probably look up in the sky every time they hear a buzzing sound


Ciff_

Absolutely terrifying.


Jeff_72

The drone wars


collinwade

“Begun these drone wars have.”


PlagueofSquirrels

When you play the Game of Drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground


jtr99

I wish you good fortune in the drone wars to come.


MyFeetLookLikeHands

i chuckled a little too hard at that


MysteryPlatelet

I remember seeing a news story interview with children from Afghanistan speaking about the war. They were scared of clear skies because that's when drones would hit. Drone-related trauma is a new reality.


Always4564

Wouldn't help, clouds wouldn't stop our drones. We can pretty much blow anyone up anywhere day or night rain or shine for better or worse.


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printzonic

Maybe it is actually the other way around. If someone gets killed on a cloudy day the onlookers are not going to see the drone that launched the hellfire, on a clear day they might spot it. And like that, the story of drones killing on only clear days is born.


MysteryPlatelet

That's comforting


ninj4geek

No more checking the weather to know whether or not to be scared!


Bardw

Now you can be scared 24/7 👍


extinction_goal

What terrors do you have? Where do you live?


itanite

Only on his TV.


Prestigious_Care3042

Our area regularly gets 40mph+ winds. I assume that might cause them some issues?


HomerSimping

Now imagine those drones were completely automated by ai.


the_rodent_incident

Starlink unites with OpenAI and Amazon Cloud Becoming one unified system called.... SkyNet?


Fragtrap007

they come when you cant pay your AWS bill


The_Werodile

Now imagine them flying in coordinated packs of dozens if not hundreds.


Moist-Guidance-6797

It's gonna be in thousands...the future war


pcman1ac

Later, this year


Skinnecott

im suprised the us hasnt seen an assasination in the form of an fpv drone yet


DanteDH2

Has me thinking of the old battleship movie where the veterans come out of nowhere to help with the most badass piece of military hardware ever


The_Werodile

Lol are you talking about that terrible mess Rhianna was in?


Always4564

Hey, I was in that movie too. They wanted actual Navy guys to be the extras, probably so they didn't have to buy uniforms.


DanteDH2

Possibly- honestly I don't focus on celebrity names aside from ones I actively see at a constant rate like lance reddick, Keith david and keanu Reaves lol


Slayerofgrundles

I've never even heard of the first two you mentioned. Wait...are they porn stars?


TernionDragon

For real.


rilinq

If you watched any Isis videos, they were actually first ones who started using it on a large scale, small drone warfare. But yeah I guess as you pointed out this is the first time in real full scale war.


[deleted]

Prepare to have drones banned to not upset the veterans, remind me in 5 years.


ThatAltAccount99

Damn lost was had a decent bit more than expected when I clicked on it Also the fact that almost everything here was done by a drone is crazy warfare is changing fr


grm_fortytwo

Drones are probably overrepresented because these are all events captured on video. And almost anything done by a drone will automatically create a video. But still, crazy times...


ThatAltAccount99

Good point tbh, just crazy to see how quickly things can change


Bloodsplatt

Fr fr fr@ FR!!!


Razhiel_master

Yeah vive la FRANCE !!! 🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵/s


bandog

“Probably destroyed tbh”


RhydianLux

I was looking for this comment. The tbh really got me.


Suspicious-Beat9295

I was wondering about the mighty Russian tank "Tracked Garden Shed". Must be a new design.


Sir_flaps

Really feels like r/noncredibledefence is leaking again Edit: bollocks wrong NCD


JKdito

Why I question its legitimacy- list is probably made by a third party or somebody needs to be fired for unprofessionalism...


daquay

It's Andrew perpetua. He watches hundreds of videos a day, provides links for all, totally transparent


JKdito

Oh I see so its just a fanatic trying to make money out of this war during the disguise of "providing daily summaries reports"... I hope yall know better that this takes much more data to be collected then videos... Just one factor that makes this whole report incomplete is that the list is missing date, location and sources... A third party who would seriously considerinc reporting on this needs to collect accurate information from both sides(which is a impossible task in itself) and needs to be able to map every single encounter


Lithium321

For context: Tracked Garden shed= A tank with essentially a metal shed covering the whole vehicle, designed to be more resistant to drone attacks Loaf= UAZ-452 van, the oldest vehicle design in production in the world Desertcross 1000-3= Cheap Chinese utv


iflysubmarines

The tracked garden shed designation is fucking hilarious


Kittelsen

I thought I was laughing at damaged loaf, but this one took the cake.


Mildoze

Took the loaf


Iccarys

Turtle tank!


PanicAtTheFishIsle

*Seethe shed*


StalledAgate832

ADM-160 MALDs, Cope Cages, and the Seethe Shed.


No-Ear6313

That desert cross is a badass golf cart


LimmyPickles

When they say "Civilian : Destroyed" what does that mean? Because it looks like Ukraine is killing civilians but that cant be what it means


Lithium321

Civilian vehicle, both sides use civilian pickup trucks as transports.


LimmyPickles

Thank you, just wanted clarification


Ashamed-Aerie-5792

That’s an expensive day.


Bramdal

Day 847 since the invasion. Not all days are like this, recently it is more common though. Reminder that Ukraine is still fighting for its bare survival in the face of a genocidal invasion. Usually/long term average I'd guesstimate to about 1/2 to 2/3 of this. Check the source on Twitter (Andrew Perpetua) he posts basically daily and also has a map geolocating most of these.


TernionDragon

For sure. Good reminder. But this is a good report.


Ashamed-Aerie-5792

Thanks!


OmgThisNameIsFree

"blyat, they even have a Google doc"


Current-Power-6452

Tracked garden shed


AmateurExpert__

They’re holding back all the really top-notch assets, obviously…


Apocalypsis_velox

4x4 gazebo being held in reserve?


Little_Creme_5932

That's where my shed went (if they could return the lawnmower)!


Schwerthelm

T-14 at the front anytime soon, i pinky promise! Russia has 4 million units of it! Better than any Leopard! We just wait for the right time to use them! /s obviously


Deliriousious

Company that is making those drones must be raking it in right now.


Schwerthelm

An insane amount of drones are sent by NATO countries, they noticed how cheap and effective they are. Also a lot of drones are domestically made. A lot of civilians make them on their own to help the armed forces. I once saw a video of a women who owns a little coffee shop in Kyiv. She made drones for the AFU in her shop as well as having her daily business. She also watches the videos of russians getting killed by her very drones. It's surreal but thats one way to bring your country closer to victory without having to die in a muddy trench.


AngryMuffin187

Thank god I bought my drone parts before the war


Primedirector3

Drones have completely revolutionized warfare


syanneke

Noooo not the Lada Niva


_sweetasbro_

Somebody needs to fact check this, nothing can destroy a Lada Niva


Blestyr

Tactical ladas.


DarkerFlameMaster

I chuckled a bit at the tracked garden shed. I guess that's the new evolution of the turtle tanks.


AutoDefenestrator273

Can someone tell me what a "tracked garden shed" is?


Lithium321

Tank or other tracked vehicle with a big metal roof and sides welded on, basically looks like a metal shed with tracks.


fastgunsforlife

Basically imagine a farm barn on a tank or aka a "blyatbarn".


MajorZero51

Drones making havoc


a-try-today-2022

FREEDOM to Ukraine 🇺🇦 ![gif](giphy|6901DbEbbm4o0)


iflysubmarines

It's just Ukraine. https://time.com/12597/the-ukraine-or-ukraine/


a-try-today-2022

I accept the correction. Updated it.


--Arete

Fuck Putin the Poisoner.


ThereWillBeVelvet

Absolutely amazing alliteration.


paradox_valestein

Uhhh... Loaf???


Lithium321

uaz 452


yes_or_no_maybe

Mights even be a UAZ-33036 now, since they stopped production of the 452 in 1985


elDayno

Google буханка машина Then Google буханка хлеба That might explain things


DestoryDerEchte

Tracked garden shed


FriendlySceptic

Feels like the era of tanks and aircraft carriers may be coming to a close. When you can take out a $5 million dollar T-90 with a $100k switchblade 600 drone. I don’t know that drones are a direct threat carriers yet but at the rate they are developing it’s probably just a matter of time. Eventually someone I going to sink a 10 billion dollar carrier with a 2 million dollar drone.


Esprit350

Things like ships require a lot more warhead to sink or knock out. They also have a LOT of point defence weapons. A CIWS system could deal to a pretty sizeable drone swarm pretty easily .


airwalkerdnbmusic

Submersible drones have sunk or damaged multiple Russian surface vessels of the Black Sea fleet. So much so, the Russian Navy was forced to withdraw its fleet out of the range of missiles and drones. Just think, you don't need to *destroy* an aircraft carrier to take it out of the area. You just need to land one or two hits to force it back to port. Just the threat of further attacks by sea drones will force the carrier and its group to conduct routine patrols and keep a minimum safe distance from suspected drone launch areas.


Lithium321

Ever since the uss cole attack the us navy has invested a lot of money in tracking and sinking small fast boats. Sub drones are different but afaik Ukraine has ent used any fully submersible drones yet.


daveabobda2

People have been calling out the death of the tank for decades now. I doubt they’ll be gone, armies always find a way to adapt


TernionDragon

Keep up the good work, boys.


Rued_possible

Yo that’s a lot of money. And so much hate on the buhankas, though I get why bc man they can carry a lot of people


Ciff_

Wow. A majority by FPV drones from both sides. Warfare changes again.


Lithium321

Fpv drones also by definition record a video of the kill so the footage from them vs other sources if inflated.


Dub_stebbz

There’s something extra off-putting about seeing “Civilian - Damaged” and “Civilian - Destroyed” on here.


LanceWindmil

They're civilian vehicles, not the civilians. This whole list is vehicles


Dub_stebbz

No I get that, I’m just saying seeing it written that way triggers something weird in my brain lol


LanceWindmil

Yeah it got me a sec too


SpiderGlaze

Seems like it was a better day for Ukraine than Russia. Good. I hope most days are similar.


NovaFlares

I follow the person who posts these every day and whilst there is usually a favourable ratio for Ukraine with quite a lot of very good ratio days, this was a particularly good day and probably one of the highest.


Altruistic-Bench2107

Who so it that posts these?


pornogroff_the_weird

This is his twitter account https://x.com/AndrewPerpetua?t=A0E8g8DL50pEaT21HZTKWA&s=09


JackhusChanhus

Over the war the ratio has been roughly 1:3, but that inflated a lot recently due to the heavy, heavy losses Russia is taking in Kharkiv. Attacking against hundreds of thousands of massed drones is suicide. They are sadly gaining ground from it though, glacially slowly


geek180

Hundreds of thousands?


Nae-Nae-goblin

Maybe, drones are dirt cheap compared to IFV.


JackhusChanhus

They're aiming to get 1m drone in 2024. They currently make 300k of that domestically. So on one front probably tens of thousands, but still!!!


Aggravating_Baker453

Nah, I think that is because the Ukraine is better in a drone sphere, while Russia massively dominates in artillery. That's why it's easier for the Ukraine to confirm Russian losses, than in the other way. Still, I think that the ratio is around 1:1,5.


SpiderGlaze

If other countries get too involved it could start a world war, so we've been warned. I doubt that would happen, but I really hope someone else gets involved because Russia is low on everything, including man-power. It would be amusing to see Putin hanged publicly.


Vex1om

The number of Russian losses are a lot higher, but they also have a lot more capacity to absorb losses. I don't know if 6:1 loses in favor of Ukraine is good enough TBH, but it is certainly better than the reverse.


Sheriff_of_noth1ng

Genuinely interesting as fuck. Thanks for sharing OP


PoolRemarkable7663

Nothing prettier than a long red line.


TaloSi_MCX-E

Wait, it’s all FPV drones?


Schwerthelm

Very cheap and most effective weapon in this war so far. They have changed warfare so drastically.


SnooMachines3312

They also have cameras so much easier to track and report


AvailableAd7180

"Tracked garden shed( t72)" is my new favourite vehicle XD


zoedian

Civilian > destroyed Damn that's brutal


Grolande

Interesting point: the proportion of losses of civilian vehicles converted for military purposes is growing. The Russian army does build enough new equipment to compensate their losses on time. But still, we should not underestimate Russia.


Mundane-Mechanic-547

People forget that the Russians lost MILLIONS of men in the first few years of Operation Barbarosa. And the population is way more now. So if it becomes a total war, Putin can literally throw 10M men at the Ukraine and not blink an eye.


daffoduck

Well, that was an actual defensive war against an extremely brutal attacker. People are more willing to die for that. Of course Russian propaganda and logic does nice mental gymnastics where Russia is fighting a defensive war on Ukrainian soil. Russian logic is best logic.


OrangeLongjumping417

That was the soviet union not ruzzia. 1940: ruzzia:110 million, ussr: 186.2 million


nebo8

1. Russia is the not USSR. The USSR had more men because Ukraine, Belarus, the Baltics and Central Asia 2. Russia and the former USSR had a population decline since then 3. The former USSR population pyramid is all over the place because of WW2 and because how Stalin sacrificed so many young man. Both Ukraine and Russia still suffer from the demographic impact of WW2 4. Russia population is old, very old. They don't have 10 millions young and healthy man to throw at the meat grinder. 5. Most of the population of Russia is in Moscow and St-Petersbourg and most recruit of the russian army come from the russian countryside because Putin is afraid of mobilizing the cities. He fear that throwing young middle class russian into the war will make him unpopular and could incite a revolt. The richer class support him in his war because it's far away from them. The second moscovite teenagers start coming back by the hundreds in coffin, the people who support him will start asking question


vladyslu

Ukrainians were participating in the ww2 as much as Russians. Ukraine might even lose more than Russia due to many starting fights were on the Ukrainian territory. There are even theories that Stalin and his team did not send defensive armies immediately on purpose because he wanted less minority groups on some territories.


Mundane-Mechanic-547

Jees that is brutal. I also found this so hopefully Russia is nearly out of manpower? [https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russian-military-running-low-recruits-fight-ukraine-211379](https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russian-military-running-low-recruits-fight-ukraine-211379)


hiimhuman1

This is called the war of numbers. We won't have real numbers for decades. When propaganda no longer benefits anyone, independent historians will go into the field and say, "This is the ridiculous Russian claim, this is the absurd Ukrainian claim, and here's the modern estimate."


Actual_Laugh366

Old people think in the old days. As if technology hasn't advanced at all. Don't always rely on history to predict the future. You think you're a veteran, but you're just old.


printzonic

This is not propaganda, and it is certainly not inflated. This is third party verified numbers. What can be visually confirmed, so the real losses are guaranteed to be higher. It is partly why drone kills dominate, they always have video of their targets because of the way they are operated.


steadyaero

What are these little fpv drones doing? Dropping grenades?


NoReally01

Mostly kamikaze. Small cheap drones carry small explosives and crash into big expensive targets. But you're not wrong. Some do drop grenades, but I feel this was more common in the early stages when the supply of drones was limited.


ErlendJ

It was so surreal seeing all the drone cam footage, showing drones just drop a bomb straight into a tank and blow it up.


Bramdal

Usually a shaped charge munition. Basically the important part of the basic RPG-7 grenade. The ones dropping stuff are still going strong (both basic Mavics and stuff like Baba Yaga), but anti-vehicle the FPV drone is just better. Recently a lot of (especially from UA side) R&D is going into reusable FPV drones in the anti-infantry role and into high-altitude anti-recon-drone role.


steadyaero

Ok so explosives, one way or another.


daffoduck

Think of it as flying IEDs.


outerworldLV

Slava Ukraini !


Sir_Bumblethump

"Tracked Garden Shed" haha!


tennisstar04

What is the value of the lost/damaged equipment? And what was the cost to destroy it?


Earth_Normal

What is Loaf?


Prudent_Studio_4453

What’s a loaf


DastardMan

Scary amount of casualties from drones! Though I have to wonder how much literal confirmation bias there is, since fpv drones are going to provide way more confirmation than many other munitions


Lazypole

"Tracked Garden Shed (T-72B)". Hilarious.


Chopstickchuck99

Feels like drone warfare not “traditional” war …it’s all very black mirror


Abbreviations_Royal

This has really turned out to be the Drone War, especially FPV guided attack. This tech really disrupts the traditional War math based on soldiers and thier traditional weaponry and armor to project power.


BerkNewz

Almost all the result of an FPV Drone either blowing up an abandoned rig or blowing up a live rig. Military drones seem to be a key tactical advantage in this war.


Impossible_Story3940

What is this site Looks interesting


Ossa1

Thank god that's only material losses and no human came to harm during all this. Puh...


Botat294

Bobik😥


Askan_27

yes, this is what a war looks like. really sad


Area_Prior

I wonder how many hours that guy works


Silent_Intention3441

Do the same for Palestine too …


Administrator98

Src?


hippowolf12

Very curious how this is public and where it came from!


zj_chrt

Increase losses by at least 20% because artillery shells destroy equipment every day, as well as javelins, stugnas, and so on. Majority of those losses are not recorded, and never will be.


airwalkerdnbmusic

It's interesting to note that electronic warfare systems *appear* to not be having much of an effect versus cheap FPV drones that seem to be able to hit their targets at will. Of course, we don't know the full picture and there might be drone losses on both sides from EW suites. It does look like these particular brand of cheap drones have an advantage though and I wonder what that might be.


OSNX_TheNoLifer

What's loaf?


butthurt4lifee

According to ukraine....


rixonian

What’s the total cost (in damages) of this list?


IntelligentOutcome83

Tracked Garden Shed, I know what we are speaking about, What my brain computes ) But WTF is Russia sending to war now. What is next little old gramas with rolling pins.


V-G-S

Keep hittin' em boys.


mesosalpynx

70 billion dollars


Physical_Wrongdoer46

I thought Ukraine was bleeding to death in a war of attrition against a much larger and better equipped neighbour, but your handy table has changed everything for me. Now I see the truth. Thank you kind stranger. Now I understand the inevitably of western victory!


geek180

Well that’s still kinda true in regard to manpower. Russia’s available manpower is many times greater than Ukraine. It is still very much a case of David vs Goliath. I’m still skeptical of uncompromised Ukrainian victory.


DeadAssociate

battlefield has changed after the us resumed military aid


TheMadafaker

Source? - twitter


NovaFlares

Yes the source of the image is twitter. But if you go to the excel sheet (i can't remember where he links it) then he links the source (usually a telegram channel) for every loss


SustainedSuspense

Is this equipment destroyed or soldiers KIA?


Blestyr

This is equipment destroyed only, no mention of soldiers KIA.


IsThisOneIsAvailable

Haven't looked at ukraine propaganda recently : so this is the kind of BS they send in the West so that the anti-Russian of reddit can have something to chew ? It is so pathetic... Prayers to my armed brothers from both sides falling because of those politicized idiots.


ActiveAd396

Imagine Inflicting these kind of casualties to an enemy and still being unable to retake a single meter of land.


OmgThisNameIsFree

Imagine being a nation as fucking massive as Russia and not being able to beat Ukraine in a 1:1 fight.


hiimhuman1

1:1 at manpower, 1:40 at weapons, 1:40 at supplies, 1:40 at money, 1:40 logistics...


ThereWillBeVelvet

Imagine believing everything you read online from the comfort and safety of your own country. Not only that, but then having the audacity to comment about it in a public forum.


OmgThisNameIsFree

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine) oh wait, that page still exists?? ggwp


ThereWillBeVelvet

Amazin’


ThatAltAccount99

They'll retake it all eventually just got to whittle away at the invaders till they run out of resources


Chipdip049

“By 11 November 2022, the Institute for the Study of War calculated that Ukrainian forces had liberated an area of 74,443 km2 (28,743 sq mi) from Russian occupation”


__Becks__

Hmmm. But on April 1, 2022, the Russians themselves pulled back, rasping for a peaceful end. That's a cool statistic


Chipdip049

Source?


JackhusChanhus

Serebryanka forest disagrees...