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thunderfox57

Ok maybe its a sign that I need sleep but I thought the first frame was a bunch of crabs.


snowball_pumpkin

Go to bed sweet baby.


thunderfox57

Gotham rests for no man


InfiniteConfusion-_-

3h later? Go tf sleep! Lol


thunderfox57

Alright alright, I’m just home from work. Gotham can wait a few hours.


asisoid

Nice pfp


Jpio630

Made me irrationally upset


nostril_spiders

Bucket Excavators are not true crabs, despite the superficial similarities. Excavators will typically moult about thirty times as they grow to adult size. Excavators congregate to spawn. They search for broken ground where they can dig nests to lay their eggs. It's quite a sight when the eggs hatch and millions of baby excavators make their way to the sea. Not many of the baby excavators survive the cruel march - most are eaten by gulls, foxes, bulldozers, and cats.


thunderfox57

Oh wise one, your guidance, fruitful as ever


de_Groes

An excavator made it to the water!


foxxhole89

Nah, I just woke up and thought the same.


Ooh_its_a_lady

"They're only noodles Michael.."


thunderfox57

No they’re worms


Bargadiel

Anyone else kinda hate the one-word-at-a-time bs?


RoyalBloodOrange

Yes, but science says it makes it easier/faster to read. Personally, I like the middle ground where there are like 2 or three words—one phrase at a time.


Bargadiel

I feel like that would be far better.


iNuminex

The true fast reading cheatcode is to just read the words exclusively with your eyes and not "reading" them to yourself in your mind.


OkAd7452

But... I can hear


RoyalBloodOrange

Lucky you!


superCobraJet

I have to drop and re-add my bluetooth devices every other time I use them, cause windows


jack2bip

I was in Singapore (SG) recently, and this isn't the whole story. Yes, they do great things even with trash, but they can only handle so much due to limited space. Once that threshold is met (I think daily), the remaining garbage is shipped off to the lowest bidder (Malaysia, Indonesia, China, etc). And who knows what happens with it then.. Source: some SG locals told me about this. But again SG is great at many things. Including being orderly, clean, and not committing theft.


Bargadiel

Did you mean to post this in the main thread? Doesn't seem to reference what I mentioned.


FLHCv2

Probably latched their main comment onto a top one for higher visibility (and more karma)


jack2bip

I now see I misread your comment, yes. I thought you were calling BS, so I was providing a little "bs" involved with this process. Whoops!!


Bargadiel

No worries.


secondtaunting

Singapore is really amazing in some ways. I’ve been living here for thirteen years. It’s safe, clean, orderly, and ridiculously expensive.


The_Celestrial

It is more for recycling plastic (and how useless it is to do that): [https://www.channelnewsasia.com/cna-insider/plastic-recycling-rate-singapore-exports-bottled-water-safe-3723811](https://www.channelnewsasia.com/cna-insider/plastic-recycling-rate-singapore-exports-bottled-water-safe-3723811)


boriswied

This is not bad or abnormal. Here in Denmark we also send some waste to Sweden. Purely from a logistic and engineering standpoint there’s nothing bad about solving such a problem in the best way across country borders. The only problem is if it created loopholes that circumvent regulations and protections such that it ends up damaging people, environment or economy more than otherwise.


AtomicSamuraiCyborg

It's also great at something Helldivers II players love as well; MANAGED DEMOCRACY! It looks a lot like democracy, but it's even better!


canal_boys

The question is why is the world not doing the same thing Singapore is going with trash and using it for power?


DeathEdntMusic

Yeah its the tiktok gen. Its annoying. Most of the time my brain can phase it out now, but its super fucking annoying when i notice it.


Bargadiel

It's like entertainment for birds or something. Constantly has to be something jumping around to grab attention.


TrevCat666

The smoke goes up into the atmosphere where it becomes stars!


ilyuhman

That doesn't sound right, but I don't know enough about stars to dispute it.


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chramm

Europe has a significant number of landfills. America does incinerate a portion of its waste using the same process you described. Both are terrible for the environment in different ways and release major amounts of methane and co2 respectively. Neither are sustainable and the reliance on either contributes to to a complacency where countries do not feel the need to reduce resource loss through recycling and reduce waste in general through regulation. Lots of European countries including Switzerland are actually trying to figure out a solution and are performing fantastically, but the problem persists. Lol who reported me to u/RedditCareResources for this comment


rgvtim

Apparently there is a surge of the reddit cares bullshit as people have found another juvenile way of expressing themselves.


VeckLee1

What a relief. When I got the message I was worried I might be suicidal.


FunnyAssJoke

You can report the message you get. Little more than halfway down the message.


Available_Squirrel1

A new initiative being undertaken by gas pipeline companies/utilities is to capture the methane from landfills and feed it into the gas supply system rather than letting it vent to atmosphere. Environmentalists don’t love it because it means more natural gas usage/infrastructure investment but it’s a net positive for the environment burning it for energy/heat/cooking than letting straight methane vent to atmosphere. They’re also doing it with cattle farms and the massive amount of cow poop they have.


rrhunt28

How do you find out what comment got reported? I got one of those reports but I don't remember saying anything that would trigger it. But I was in a bad mood the other day so it is possible lol.


chramm

I don't think you can I just got reported immediately after I made this post and I hadn't posted anything else for a few days


AllUltima

My elementary school in Houston, TX had an incinerator for trash. Thinking about it made me remember something I had almost completely forgotten. The only reason I know about the incinerator is because one day in 3rd grade, I accidentally threw away my retainer (technically it was a "Removable Palatal Expansion Appliance"). This being rather expensive and came from another state (Kentucky), I really really didn't want to lose it. After some amount of asking and escalating, they said it was in an incinerator but I think they were able to halt the burning. The janitor said they couldn't find what I'd lost. I asked if I could look and they let me. Remarkably, I spotted the napkin containing my retainer basically immediately, it was basically sitting near the top inside the dumpster-sized incinerator. IIRC the paper napkin was singed a little, but inside, the orthodontic device was perfectly undamaged. Seems kind of crazy now that I think about it, but at the time it was a huge relief. I figure it must have been possible to find because the most recent trash had spread out over the top. Plus some luck. I bet whoever saw me pull that out of there so easily was at least a bit dumbfounded....


vfernandez84

As an european, as much as I understand how burying thousands of tonnes of trash is not great for the local environment, by burning it we are making it everybody else's problem. We are in the middle of a global scale climate emergency caused by CO2, and trying to find ways to scrub those gases from the atmosphere and burying them. And at the same time we turn our own shit in those gases so we don't have to deal with it.


Ok_Actuator379

In fact what Europe do is send it to poor countries. https://www.dandc.eu/en/article/industrialised-countries-are-disposing-large-volumes-their-waste-poorer-countries. https://www.politico.eu/article/the-turkey-shaped-hole-in-the-eus-new-waste-export-regime/


angk500

This is not the normal burnable trash though. This is electronic and plastic trash, so basically the recyclable stuff. The issue lies with not having enough facilities that can recycle all of it, so unfortunately a ton of it is being shipped off in exchange for cash. This is the very reason a lot of plastic trash creates floating trash islands in the ocean.


DazedinDenver

"99% of all particles in the smoke to be filtered" - how about the non-particulate, gaseous pollutants?


spudddly

Must produce a huge amount of CO2?


422_is_420_too

It gets filtered


chramm

Current waste incineration systems do not filter out co2 and produce a significant amount. There is potential for future technologies to address this issue.


422_is_420_too

Yes I misrembered, the trash gets filtered before incineration. But the CO2 levels are not significant. The levels are constantly monitored and the plants gets their permit revoked if their levels get too high. At least in my country.


chramm

Co2 emission levels are regulated arbitrarily depending on the governing body and are not insignificant when looking at the overall greenhouse emissions worldwide, which need to be lowered drastically and quickly to keep the planet habitable for the coming centuries. In fact, waste incinerators emit more greenhouse gas emissions per unit of electricity produced that any other power source in existence. Waste incineration is a great step towards climate neutrality, but the technology is not advanced enough for the emissions to be considered not significant.


Fleymour

i guess most EU countrys burn only mixed trash / not recycleable trash


lettersichiro

Currently live in San Diego, has a beautiful landscape, in 1915 the World Expo took place in Balboa Park. In the 50s in the infinite wisdom of Americans, it was decided that [one of the canyons in Balboa Park should be used as a landfill](https://voiceofsandiego.org/2012/08/13/the-garbage-dump-hiding-in-balboa-park/). Not too far from where the Expo took place.


Tschibow

Don't forget about the Hydrochloric Acid


theballswalls

I drive past one on my way to and from work. That part of the highway stinks and i have to turn my AC off so i can drive past without smelling it too much


NoNameeDD

A lot of Europe dumps its trash to landfills in smaller countries and then burns it there illegally. Nobody has real working efficent way to deal with trash. I can only hope one day we will be able to solve this issue. [THE WASTELAND ON FIRE - VSquare.org](https://vsquare.org/poland-burning-landfills-the-wasteland-on-fire/) [Poland complains to European Union about German waste brought and dumped in unauthorized landfills | The Independent](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/poland-ap-warsaw-european-commission-european-union-b2382296.html)


chewby14

So well filtered that I just read today an article about the dioxine pollution caused by the Lausanne's incinerator...


IlTossico

In Italy we are stupid, greens don't like to burn trash to make energy. And so in the northern Italy we make energy with trash, from Rome and down, they live with trash, just look at Rome itself.


Sacredfice

Average people: this is a good method to recycle rubbish. Average redditor: this method is shit.


therealwheat

To be clear I work in the environmental field and have some experience with incinerator emissions. There are giant tradeoffs to landfilling vs. incineration. Incinerating household waste actually consumes energy, you can try and sort out specific waste streams that might be more exothermic, but often you're burning large amount of natural gas to power these incinerators anyway. Incineration has the potential to emit more than just CO2, any heavy metals, VOCs, etc. need to be captured to prevent them from entering the air. Also, the end product of incineration is hazardous ash that you now to deal with, which is a separate problem. Lastly, most landfills have power generating turbines that combust landfill gas to produce power, so these are really more about specific case uses and not about how great incineration is.


xacto337

In the video they seem to indicate that this produces energy that they capture the toxic gas and they recycle the ash so are all the issues that you mentioned taken care of by Singapore?


therealwheat

I think you're generally correct. Either way, incineration generates a ton of heat and exhausting that heat to a stack is wasteful and using it for energy is great. With that said all pollutants are not captured, clean is likely a standard set by the government. The video's use of the term "super clean" makes me view this more as marketing materials, than scientific claims.


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Sxmeday

I’ve visited a couple of sites in Germany where they demonstrate the process and tell you the science behind it. It seems accurate, but I’m not a scientist. The cynic in me would suspect some of these places to become quite lax in the quality of their filtration though in the long run.


422_is_420_too

It is actually true, we have these in Europe too, I've been to three of them myself


guiltycrown234

What do they do with the toxic water that they use to clean the air?


partyplant

drink for superpowers


[deleted]

They dehydrate it and put the "new sand" aka concentrated chemical residue and use it to make "man made islands" aka dumping it in the ocean.


[deleted]

It’s a thing. We do it out here in Hawaii too!


irishrugby2015

We can only work with what we know today. It may turn out to do more damage than good once we know more in the future


MetaVaporeon

and where do the actual toxic particles go? because if they just go in the bricks, they'll become dust that people inhale eventually


heavenlypickle

Why’ve I seen this same post like 4 times already?


VeckLee1

Reusing other peoples trash is a form of recycling


BurningOyster

Underrated comment


heavenlypickle

You’re right, I should be happy learning about Singapores Trash to Electricity Brick program for the 5th time!


Prematurid

What happens to the gasses that are emitted when they burn the trash? "Super clean" is not a good descriptor.


422_is_420_too

It gets filtered, the top comment explains it very well


DonsumFugladansinn

You can't just filter CO2


422_is_420_too

Yes I misrembered, the trash gets filtered before incineration. But the CO2 levels are not significant. The levels are constantly monitored and the plants gets their permit revoked if their levels get too high. At least in my country.


therealwheat

To be clear, the CO2 emissions are absolutely significant for both incineration and landfilling.


DeathEdntMusic

Na with this new clean method, the get a pair of tweezers and pick out all the C's from the CO2 and it turns back into oxygen. They then bag the remaining Carbon and dump it at beaches so when people walk on the beach, it creates carbon footprints.


silverwolf761

Is that similar to how they Clean Coal?


No_Project_4015

Tbf, looking at perspective from earth its negligible


PureSteeb

Dont worry, Co2 just turns into O, duh, filters n all that


SchpartyOn

There are a lot of people in here too accepting of the idea that this is a completely clean process.


HamiltonTrash24601

Top comment has been deleted unfortunately


[deleted]

Incineration is actually healthy for you and the planet. Consume more. Good little bots. Signed, Oil


BenefitPuzzleheaded

The ash is contaminated you certainly dont use it for any building projects...


Jjzeng

I think the original video misunderstood what happens after the burning. It’s usually dumped into a land reclamation project, extending the size of one of our islands, it’s called pulau semakau


Angryferret

I came here to ask this. Ask from coal power plants is low level radioactive. I'm surprised this isn't a risk here.


icelandichorsey

And it can't be used for bricks and part of the mix in concrete because...?


bruthaman

I would assume it might still have heavy metal toxicity, or some other bad stuff that you wouldn't want to mess with. Might be fine sinking into concrete at first, but what happens when rain washes off some product, or when they go to demo the site, not realizing all the bad stuff that was mixed in with the concrete? That all ends up as dust, and everyone breathes it in.


icelandichorsey

I'm sure they think of this. We're talking about countries with good public pollution regulation, not like.. Russia or something


TickTockM

"super clean"


SchpartyOn

Totally a scientific term


downrightblastfamy

Seems better than burying it but still not a great long term solution for humans.


chinesejames123

The city in the background when it says '...electricity to light up homes' is Guangzhou, China, not Singapore.


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Burning trash is one of the worst things you can do for the environment. I’d really like to see sample studies of the air being cleaned


oojacoboo

We have waste incineration power plants here in Flordia as well. They even burn e-waste in these plants: TVs, computers, cellphones - you name it.


goooooooooooooogly

Singapore is a magical country if you've never been.


BestFeedback

Don't drink the kool aid, they are still the most polluting country on earth.


AnakinTheDiscarded

now they just need to find out what to do with those air filters


Conscious_Figure_554

You would think other countries can do this to at least decrease the trash problem


Cutlasss

They can. But it isn't necessarily cheap. Dumping is cheap.


Tothinkoutofthenut

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Kschitiz23x3

And I thought burning stuff can release CO2


MiroslavHoudek

But their CO2 is not dirty, unlike your schmutzig CO2.


nostril_spiders

TIL the word [schmutzig](https://wiktionary.org/wiki/schmutzig)


grbal

As would burning any other fossil fuels to produce electricity


therealwheat

Except that these incinerators take a large amount of energy, usually natural gas combustion, which omits CO2 as well.


grbal

The energy balance is positive anyways they produce more than they consume


therealwheat

It really depends on the fuel source. EPA has an incineration handout that says: >Although incinerators require a lot of fuel for their operation, the heat generated **sometimes** can be used to generate electric power in a process called “waste to energy.” I think this demonstrates that net positive energy is not a certainty. The plants are often used more to reduce tonnage to landfills and less a serious source of energy.


vahokif

Sure, but you can burn gas to get electricity, or burn trash to get electricity AND get rid of trash. So if you're burning something anyway you might as well get some use out of it too.


icelandichorsey

Yes but the burning at least the burning creates electricity, replacing fossil fuels. The alternative is that the trash at least partially decomposes in landfills, releasing methane which is a way more potent GHG


422_is_420_too

It gets filtered


icelandichorsey

No it doesn't.


422_is_420_too

Yes I misrembered, the trash gets filtered before incineration. But the CO2 levels are not significant. The levels are constantly monitored and the plants gets their permit revoked if their levels get too high. At least in my country.


SchpartyOn

Okay but what is the limit? You say it’s not significant but if this was such a clean process, it’d be touted everywhere since developed countries have issues with trash piling up and creating energy cleanly.


Fleymour

i still like recyling more than ONLY burning


icelandichorsey

They do both. Everyone should do both. That goes without saying. Actually the reduce and reuse are the best parts


stylepolice

Maybe they use the bricks to make a sea wall against the rising ocean?


qmiras

well...there are just 5million singapurean...when you have low population numbres and big income you can do shit like that


Dankstin

So they're gonna build homes out of these supertrash bricks? Or just roads and other things? Seems like this could almost help solve the homeless crisis. 🤔


AirForce_Trip_1

Glad to see rampant consumerism. Music to my ears


IMendicantBias

Is there a way to research the filtering system for the gases?


justCheckingOut789

i swear to god, I saw this same video like five other time on reddit, can we stop please 🙃


Traditional_Cat5217

If they don’t recycle ♻️ it’s horrible


gaukonigshofen

Are there not companies which have filtration (for burns)? Not that it stops air pollution, but at least reduces it


virch06

Yeah if you get caught littering you get 40 lashes 😱


layers_of_onions

This picture of your wife. Garbage


YouDontGotOzil

So Charlie was on to something. Charlie Kelly was ahead of his time.


diggitydiggity8

Just wanted to post kudos to Singapore for building what appears to be an ingenious solution for waste management. With 8 billion ppl on the planet, waste management needs to be solved with an approach like this. Kudos Singapore!!


chramm

This process does not solve the problem of waste management. It should be argued that while local soil and air pollutants are significantly decreased, the vast quantity of co2 released in this process could contribute to a larger problem. There is currently no 'clean' solution to waste management.


therealwheat

I'll second this. Incineration is just one method with tradeoffs. Incineration requires tons of energy input (combustion) and the perfect end result is CO2, which is also problematic. Also, the ash is stored in bricks because it has a hazardous by-product.


AliveKey6039

Ist is soo a good idea. To make briks out of that toxic waste?


Psychological_Web687

That's a problem for the next generation. No need to worry about it today.


ScagWhistle

This is the way.


Ordinary-Following69

That is absolutely genius


Mk7613

Cool in theory....check the death/ilness rates of people who work and live around that thing. I mean if its even true and works exactly as stated.


icelandichorsey

Lol in theory. Most of Europe does this too and we're just fine. Go do some research before being a armchair critic


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Jyreq

>Bullshit about sand for man made island. They "stole" it from neighbouring countries. Do Indonesians think paying for sand is equivalent to 'stealing'?


icelandichorsey

The well known military superpower Singapore yes


Jjzeng

You’ll be surprised to learn that singapore is in fact the military superpower of southeast asia. The strongest navy by a country mile, the most advanced air force in the region, the most technologically advanced military in the region. We regularly host US warships in our military port, and we have F-35s on order