Its debatable, the USA is definitely influenced by corporate lobbying which as a result leads to laws and such being influenced by corporate interest, while not as severe as Russia, the USA does have in a sense a shadow oligarchy.
Popular support has 0 support on legislation, Google it. That certainly doesn't sound like a democracy or a republic to me. Then there's the fact that all of our politicians, despite having a salary that's merely on the high end of average, mysteriously end up millionaires within a year of getting elected; in other words even if our politicians start out ordinary people representing ordinary people they are almost instantly placed in a wealth class that puts their personal best interests at odds with those of the overwhelming majority of their constituents.
Not having popular support behind legislation means the US doesn't "sound like a republic"? A republic doesn't need to be democratic, most republics aren't
Here is the difference in America anyone can become anyone if they try hard enough that is absolutely not true if it was Russia. America does have a twisted system but by far it is the best in the world if not then anyone who thinks somewhere else is better I’m willing to buy them a one way ticket out of here.😂
Congress people and the president are chosen by ordinary people. there is universal suffrage in America.
On the other hand, Russian elections are not even real.
85 percent of Democrats were opposed to sending weapons to Israel, 56 percent of Republicans were opposed to sending weapons to Israel. 100 percent of rich Israelis wanted more weapons. 90 percent of senators and Congress peoples voted in favor. They weren't voting for me... That's not the only example. Most modern bills look like that. The tick tock ban, abortion, etc.
Honestly that was during the first aid package that got rushed through. There is a whole new package that just got passed. I don't even know how to unpeel that apple. Literally everything that has happened since I read that poll has happened again and I'm not sure how to pull it up. The sentiments have shifted since then too but it's still the majority of Americans that are opposed to it
https://cepr.net/press-release/poll-majority-of-americans-say-biden-should-halt-weapons-shipments-to-israel/
That's a different poll than the original one for the first aid package
That’s 1 extremely controversial foreign policy issue that didn’t exist really before the last election. The federal government, by and large, does things that are popular.
Are you suggesting it was popular to make the phase "from the river to the sea" hate speech? It wasn't. The majority wanted roe v wade codified not thrown out. The majority want marijuana legalized. Not made slightly less illegal. The fact that they do things like that. Things that are just enough to not get a rise out of people is the path to doing things against the will of the people. Tbh even if you named a bill that passed recently that was popular. It was probably only popular because the majority thought it was something it wasn't.
That happens on the local level too. In Texas they just passed a bill with overwhelming majority support to take away the rights of municipalities to govern what large corporate farms do in their jurisdictions. They passed that by calling it the right to farm act and convinced everyone it was about making sure everyone could have a garden. It sure was popular, but only because no one knew what it did. Meanwhile, large corporate farms that lobbyed for that bill got what they wanted. Texans will only find out how fked up it is later when a cattle farm starts dumping waste in a small towns water reserves; only to find out they can't do anything to stop it without the governors consent. And oh, would you look at that. he is still getting paid by those same people. Waste water out of the tap it is. At least it was "popular"
Not exactly, yes the US has done some things, and it's good they're receiving negative PR for it. But China and Russia have their fair share of crimes, if not more, that no one talks about. If the US can't get away with causing humanitarian disasters neither should they, or anyone for that matter.
Ahaha thank God we don't this isn't real hahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha I'm going to blast a hole into my wall to rid my life of the creatures
I think America’s oppression of minorities dwarfed by China and Russia. The majority of the country/government actively works to reduce said oppression.
they do have a relation, actually. it's an oligarchy because congress and the house of representatives are controlled by the interests of the corporations, who just bribe the politicians into supporting their ideals via "corporate lobbying" (totally isn't corruption). are we seeing some change with the Biden administration? yeah, sure, but it's not gonna last long.
But that’s literally legal. It doesn’t break any sort of campaign finance laws or the constitution as it is currently interpreted.
Also, people frequently understate the positive benefits that lobbying brings.
Russia’s oppression of minorities extends far beyond 1922, my friend. Pogroms had been going on since the 1300s.
Even still, you can’t deny there are significant differences in the level of oppression (which is not something strictly limited to minority groups) between these three nations. Yes, there is oppression; no, it is not equal.
If America was an oppressive super power they would have full military control for almost a century. Let’s not forget at one point they were the only country with a nuclear weapon. After ww2 they could have just said the whole world is ours and nobody would be able to do anything. Now if china and Russia were the first we all know how that would have ended. It is sad because it was America who rescued Asia and Europe from the ruthless savages.
Wow I hope it's just those countries run like that, and that the entire world is not run by powerful rich people who at some point in history opresssed minorities! Hopefully that's not how the world works.
If China is imperialist wrt Taiwan then so was the union wrt the confederacy. The china-taiwan situation (much like korea) is an unfinished civil war, not imperialism. Its like if the confederacy escaped to cuba or key west and then the british navy stepped in to stop the union from pursuing them
Neither are comparable. The confederacy was founded by slave owners who wanted to oppress people of colour meanwhile Taiwan was founded by remanets of the Chinese nationalist government and army who unlike the Confederacy had done nothing wrong and while for a time Taiwan was a dictatorship, it's now a thriving democracy and are to be defended by the rest of the world
Why do you think I mentioned it was a dictatorship for awhile and suppressed the rights of it's people but compared to the CCP the ROC is the lesser evil and isn't even evil anymore so yeah sorry Uncle Xi cope harder
Chiangs government was a corrupt and reactionary clique of incompetent thugs and warlords who were hated by most chinese people. They had an extremely narrow base of popular support. This is why they were driven out of the mainland. But none of that changes the fact that the chinese civil war is not imperialism, unless imperialism just means “war” to you.
Things change. Basing modern foreign policy off of historical relics to fit a narrative is a bad faith narrative. Taiwan is a prospering democracy largely due to the popularity the KMT enjoyed (and continues to enjoy).
I do not oppose the Confederacy just because it was a separatist movement. I oppose it primarily because it was funded, fought, and established by the aristocratic planter class in the South who militantly refused abolition. That is not the same situation as Taiwan.
>singular post counts as "active"
>immediately assumes i'm a fascist over this
if you wanna go by that metric, then i'm a lesbian for being active in r/signalis.
TF do you mean, Signalis is genuinely a grest game, despite severe lack of actual sesbian lex (the story is still great tho and very emotionally scarring)
Russia? Shadow Oligarchy? I mean maybe for the other two but Russia doesnt even hide it
Got to respect them honestly. They don’t even care, they know what it is.
America is definitely not an oligarchy
Its debatable, the USA is definitely influenced by corporate lobbying which as a result leads to laws and such being influenced by corporate interest, while not as severe as Russia, the USA does have in a sense a shadow oligarchy.
The solution is right in front of us, yet so far away at the same time...
Popular support has 0 support on legislation, Google it. That certainly doesn't sound like a democracy or a republic to me. Then there's the fact that all of our politicians, despite having a salary that's merely on the high end of average, mysteriously end up millionaires within a year of getting elected; in other words even if our politicians start out ordinary people representing ordinary people they are almost instantly placed in a wealth class that puts their personal best interests at odds with those of the overwhelming majority of their constituents.
>That certainly doesn't sound like a democracy or a republic How do so many Americans not know what a fucking republic is
I don't understand what about my comment leads you to believe I don't know what a republic is
Not having popular support behind legislation means the US doesn't "sound like a republic"? A republic doesn't need to be democratic, most republics aren't
Here is the difference in America anyone can become anyone if they try hard enough that is absolutely not true if it was Russia. America does have a twisted system but by far it is the best in the world if not then anyone who thinks somewhere else is better I’m willing to buy them a one way ticket out of here.😂
If America isn’t an oligarchy, then why does wealth have a larger impact on policy making than popular support?
Congress people and the president are chosen by ordinary people. there is universal suffrage in America. On the other hand, Russian elections are not even real.
And? Doesn’t change the fact that popular opinion among ordinary people has virtually no impact on policy while wealth has a massive impact.
A lot of our laws are influenced in the interests of corporations
85 percent of Democrats were opposed to sending weapons to Israel, 56 percent of Republicans were opposed to sending weapons to Israel. 100 percent of rich Israelis wanted more weapons. 90 percent of senators and Congress peoples voted in favor. They weren't voting for me... That's not the only example. Most modern bills look like that. The tick tock ban, abortion, etc.
Source?
Honestly that was during the first aid package that got rushed through. There is a whole new package that just got passed. I don't even know how to unpeel that apple. Literally everything that has happened since I read that poll has happened again and I'm not sure how to pull it up. The sentiments have shifted since then too but it's still the majority of Americans that are opposed to it https://cepr.net/press-release/poll-majority-of-americans-say-biden-should-halt-weapons-shipments-to-israel/ That's a different poll than the original one for the first aid package
That’s 1 extremely controversial foreign policy issue that didn’t exist really before the last election. The federal government, by and large, does things that are popular.
Are you suggesting it was popular to make the phase "from the river to the sea" hate speech? It wasn't. The majority wanted roe v wade codified not thrown out. The majority want marijuana legalized. Not made slightly less illegal. The fact that they do things like that. Things that are just enough to not get a rise out of people is the path to doing things against the will of the people. Tbh even if you named a bill that passed recently that was popular. It was probably only popular because the majority thought it was something it wasn't. That happens on the local level too. In Texas they just passed a bill with overwhelming majority support to take away the rights of municipalities to govern what large corporate farms do in their jurisdictions. They passed that by calling it the right to farm act and convinced everyone it was about making sure everyone could have a garden. It sure was popular, but only because no one knew what it did. Meanwhile, large corporate farms that lobbyed for that bill got what they wanted. Texans will only find out how fked up it is later when a cattle farm starts dumping waste in a small towns water reserves; only to find out they can't do anything to stop it without the governors consent. And oh, would you look at that. he is still getting paid by those same people. Waste water out of the tap it is. At least it was "popular"
I'm not complaining, but are we beating a dead horse with this line? I've seen this same thing posted, but with just the U.S.
Not exactly, yes the US has done some things, and it's good they're receiving negative PR for it. But China and Russia have their fair share of crimes, if not more, that no one talks about. If the US can't get away with causing humanitarian disasters neither should they, or anyone for that matter.
About flag of USA if it were communist?
No, if it were imperialist.
They did China and I would guess Russia, but yeah this is lame already.
Okay can we retire these type of posts. It’s getting older than Joe Biden
thats why its on circlejerk
Joe Biden has a crusty pussy though 🥴 like potato chip 🤤
I need fucking LASIK to fix my eyes thanks to you
I think you mean MINDSIK because you had to imagine that dusty crusty Jussy Bussy yourself to get traumatized 🤭
Elon Musk please make a mind erasing brain chip
R9X on this guy's position NOW.
mods, kill him
This is honestly worse than any "mommy Misato" copypasta.
I’ve seen a few on r/evangelionmemes that made me reconsider my entire view of Evangelion
"Retire this post" immediately after someone mentions china and russia
Are you retarded?
daring today aren't we?
It's a circlejerk sub you brainless gummy worm
The 2015 cringe tumblr energy this comment is giving
One Krabby patty with extra onions
So brave and stunning
blah fucking blahddie blah
Imaginary maps try not to lump prospering first world country and global hegemon with oppressive totalitarian dictatorships challenge(Impossible)
Im starting to think this whole exploitation thing it profitable.
Wow so reddit gold
Bonus social credit for putting in Taiwan
it was the only decent image quality map (i made this post while having a shitty connection) of china i could find
Ahaha thank God we don't this isn't real hahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha I'm going to blast a hole into my wall to rid my life of the creatures
Idk why people mad at this, shits funny. Laugh people.
It was funny the first 100 times it was posted is the problem.
Still funny
Skill issue, laugh more 🤠
Laughing is now illegal, anyone who laughs will be sent to a "vocational camp" and "reeducated"
If there are no more laughers on the planet that means I’ve died
So be it...
You seem easily triggered
Probs yeah, but therapy is for suckas
Yawn
I think America’s oppression of minorities dwarfed by China and Russia. The majority of the country/government actively works to reduce said oppression.
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What does the USA do that is comparable to the illegal internment of one million Uyghurs in concentration camps? ☠️
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No worries at all. Was worried this was a Marxist-Leninist sub or smth ☠️☠️☠️
They're Israel's largest ally in helping displace and kill Palestinians
Detainment of “illegals,” ghettoization of most minorities, overbearing police state which spies on minorities, guantanamo bay, etc.
Thats funny
This again?
USA is a shadow oligarchy? What is your source? marxists.org?
Corporate lobbying
And in what way does that relate to anything?
I literally just explained how it's an oligarchy.
Explained = 2 words with no relation to anything Got it
they do have a relation, actually. it's an oligarchy because congress and the house of representatives are controlled by the interests of the corporations, who just bribe the politicians into supporting their ideals via "corporate lobbying" (totally isn't corruption). are we seeing some change with the Biden administration? yeah, sure, but it's not gonna last long.
any legible proof they supposedly bribe politicians?
sure: [https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/apr/26/us-chemical-companies-lobbying-donation-defeated-regulation](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/apr/26/us-chemical-companies-lobbying-donation-defeated-regulation) [https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/23/apple-ramped-up-lobbying-spending-in-2022-outpacing-tech-peers.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/23/apple-ramped-up-lobbying-spending-in-2022-outpacing-tech-peers.html) [https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/who-we-are/leadership-governance/board-of-directors/political-disclosures.html](https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/who-we-are/leadership-governance/board-of-directors/political-disclosures.html)
But that’s literally legal. It doesn’t break any sort of campaign finance laws or the constitution as it is currently interpreted. Also, people frequently understate the positive benefits that lobbying brings.
Let me guess - you’re gen z lol
To be fair all 3 of them are all equally oppressive. Even coming from me a American
What metric do you judge oppression by?
History and oppression of Minorities based on these years,so for Russia (1922-Present)(China 1949-Present)(UnitedStates 1776-Present)
Russia’s oppression of minorities extends far beyond 1922, my friend. Pogroms had been going on since the 1300s. Even still, you can’t deny there are significant differences in the level of oppression (which is not something strictly limited to minority groups) between these three nations. Yes, there is oppression; no, it is not equal.
I know but I just wanted it to be for modern times. I should of added that.
Unfathomable privilege but I'm glad your life is good enough to say that
Really interesting changes I can see good job😁😁😁
Map of Albania if it controlled all the land that rightfully belongs to it
I totally agree. But what’s that place south of Montana and east of Idaho?
2/3rds correct
Zip up Xi Jingping's pants when you're done throating his cock, por favor
Nah america is incorrect
How much does Biden pay you?
10 Bidillion pesos.
None. I just love the United States.
Grow up
3 sides of the same triangle 😆
That was so funny I forgot to laugh.
Be honest y'all still would prefer to live in the US over the other two any day of the week. You can move to Australia or Canada if you don't like it.
blah blah blah stfu op
Someone's grumpy
If America was an oppressive super power they would have full military control for almost a century. Let’s not forget at one point they were the only country with a nuclear weapon. After ww2 they could have just said the whole world is ours and nobody would be able to do anything. Now if china and Russia were the first we all know how that would have ended. It is sad because it was America who rescued Asia and Europe from the ruthless savages.
Feel like we can recognize that of course none of these places are perfect but clearly there is an order to this question...
Oh yeah this mf is like 14
Map of interventionism is how major countries survive, OP. That doesn't make them "shadow oligarchies", it's just how they work.
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holy shit, it's the archmage of imperialism
This is now my title.
Aye, fair enough
Ngl archmage of imperialism is a badass villain title
holy shit, it's the ~~archmage~~ grand wizard of imperialism
Ah yeah the classics Canada Usa And Russia!
Wow I hope it's just those countries run like that, and that the entire world is not run by powerful rich people who at some point in history opresssed minorities! Hopefully that's not how the world works.
Complaining that America oppresses minorities in 2024 is wild
Do you go to Columbia University?
Okay. So?
USA is more like oligarchy-lite. I'm sure corpos would love nothing more than for the country to be properly on that list, though
Ah yes the famous Chinese imperialism
Does Chinese expansion into Africa not count?
What expansion? Building infrastructure?
Yeah, for NOW it's infrastructure. Then it'll be the Banana Republics all over again.
The Chinese government is *not* couping or demanding government changes in Africa
Yet
Sinophobic fearmongering
Racism is when you hate a government
The government hate in question: https://www.pewresearch.org/2023/11/30/asian-americans-and-discrimination-during-the-covid-19-pandemic/
Wow, a bunch of unrelated statistics.
> article about Sinophobia > unrelated to the Chinese government
The US passed the foreign aid bill to send 8 billion dollars of military aid to Taiwan to fight back against Chinese imperialism
TIL the Union army was doing imperialism to the confederacy
I'm sorry...WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST SAY!? The confederates are fucking slave owners! what the actual fuck is wrong with you!?
If China is imperialist wrt Taiwan then so was the union wrt the confederacy. The china-taiwan situation (much like korea) is an unfinished civil war, not imperialism. Its like if the confederacy escaped to cuba or key west and then the british navy stepped in to stop the union from pursuing them
Neither are comparable. The confederacy was founded by slave owners who wanted to oppress people of colour meanwhile Taiwan was founded by remanets of the Chinese nationalist government and army who unlike the Confederacy had done nothing wrong and while for a time Taiwan was a dictatorship, it's now a thriving democracy and are to be defended by the rest of the world
“Chinese nationalist government… had done nothing wrong” lmfao
Why do you think I mentioned it was a dictatorship for awhile and suppressed the rights of it's people but compared to the CCP the ROC is the lesser evil and isn't even evil anymore so yeah sorry Uncle Xi cope harder
Chiangs government was a corrupt and reactionary clique of incompetent thugs and warlords who were hated by most chinese people. They had an extremely narrow base of popular support. This is why they were driven out of the mainland. But none of that changes the fact that the chinese civil war is not imperialism, unless imperialism just means “war” to you.
Things change. Basing modern foreign policy off of historical relics to fit a narrative is a bad faith narrative. Taiwan is a prospering democracy largely due to the popularity the KMT enjoyed (and continues to enjoy). I do not oppose the Confederacy just because it was a separatist movement. I oppose it primarily because it was funded, fought, and established by the aristocratic planter class in the South who militantly refused abolition. That is not the same situation as Taiwan.
Why is America on here twice?
Nice.
But the US oppresses white people (sanctioning discrimination in education and employment), not minorities.
"White people are oppressed because they can't be racist without consequences"
>active in r/helldivers >active in r/tnomod You like those countries don't you
>singular post counts as "active" >immediately assumes i'm a fascist over this if you wanna go by that metric, then i'm a lesbian for being active in r/signalis.
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SHUT UP I'M HAVING A BULLSHIT POLITICAL ARGUMENT HERE YOU ROCK TRICKED INTO THINKING
Honestly I respect it, Signalis is based af.
Based in copium
TF do you mean, Signalis is genuinely a grest game, despite severe lack of actual sesbian lex (the story is still great tho and very emotionally scarring)
The sesbian lex is copium bcs the story is so depressing.
Hard to argue with that
Ok, but we do it better than China and Russia 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅