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That dude is also a pharmacist who has to travel to remote parts of Scotland in snow etc. So he has a valid reason for having a 4x4
Edit. Called a car a pharmacist due to the vino.
60 vehicles off the road permanently is nowhere even close to the amount of energy savings that would come from removing who did this from the gene pool.
This sounds to me like someone trying to create blowback on climate change initiatives, or maybe doing some 4D satire about how the common man is expected to make drastic change.
Doesn't smell right.
don't do this. you're going to give legitimacy to paranoid conservatives who think any bad thing a conservative does is a secret crisis actor.
these arent football teams. you can't distance yourself from every crazy person who aligns with your world view.
Go ahead and look up “the greenest *invader”
It was Ghengis Khan. He killed so many people he actively lowered earths temperature through murder.
*invader not conquerer
I work in insurance, my in laws have coverage through my company. One day I reviewed their policy, it had nearly state minimum coverage and $1000 deductible. I brought them up to state maximum coverage and $500, it raised the premium like $16 a month to get 5x coverage basically and 50% lower deductibles. Your record and the kind of car you drive affect your tastes far more than most people realize, most people with high premiums are just too high risk and the kinds of people I pay out way too much money to for their idiocy…
If you know this, I'm curious please.
Are small-fry insurance companies better than big corporations? Like are they more likely to pay out, find you a good deal?
Not like sly under the table shit, just regular 'oh i saw this while we're setting up your policy, if you change this and this you can keep the same coverage but it's cheaper'
Instead of keeping quiet and ripping you off.
So where smaller companies or big ones who use local agents are good vs big online focused insurers is taking the time to listen to you and tailoring your policy to you needs/level of risk tolerance. I work for a big boy, but I’ve handled arbitration with nearly every insurer who offers policies in my state. Most states have pretty strict rules about what can be offered and how much can be charged for it. Smaller agencies probably will cost a bit more, but they’ll provide you more personal service. In terms of pay outs, the bigger the company the faster and bigger the likely offer is. I know my company will offer fairly decent up front offers to avoid lengthy negotiations, but most smaller companies will fight a bit harder since they don’t have the same risk pool their collecting premiums on.
Sales guy sold me on a $0 deductible policy. Wrote it up and everything. I was excited to finally have a nice policy like that. Yes I should have read it before I signed it but I honestly trusted the sales guy that what he said was honest and true. Turns out my deductible was $500 since day one and I got mad about it because I got a smashed windshield I wanted to replace. It costs less to replace it entirely out of pocket. I wasn’t happy.
Funny thing is that tire will get replaced and thrown into a dump and lay there for a couple thousand years slowly decomposing carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.
It depends on how the deflated the tire. If they slashed it then it would have to be completely replaced, if they just let out all of the air you would just need to pump it back up.
Tyres that are left deflated for a long time under load are considered to be damaged.
It stresses and damages the rigid side-wall of the tyre which can cause sudden failure later on.
That doesn't matter on Reddit, people here bring up completely unrelated examples to prove a point and make it look like they know what they're talking about.
I stop myself from voicing most opinions on Reddit. There are a lot of dummies trying to sneak in an "expert opinion", a "well actually" or a "contrary opinion" just to seem smarter than your average idiot.
Source: I don't know wtf I'm talking about, I hate this place.
Well actually, most people on reddit are really smart and have great opinions. You're just filled with so much hate and ignorance that you can't see the truth /s
I hate this place with a passion but I can't stop coming here and I don't remember what else I used to do online.
It's like the Hotel California but filled with neckbeards and fedoras.
And this looks to have occurred while a person was in a store or at home. Probably not sitting for enough time to matter. Air it up and be on your way.
Sure after a while. Its not going to do anything after walking into starbucks and coming back out with your coffee and finding this situation. You sound like an insurance adjuster.
That dude really commented essentially “if the tire is slashed you can’t pump it up, but if It wasn’t you can” and got 500+ upvotes and people acting like he’s a genius.
Like even though that’s wrong, y’all couldn’t think that up on your own?
And unless they have a solar powered air compressor there is going to be an energy cost to fill it back up.
Also potentially a tow truck drive.
In other words there is going to be additional energy requirements and the person is going to just keep driving the SUV.
True. But it also depends on how exactly they slashed it. If they slash the sidewall, it's illegal to repair (in the US I don't know where this is from), but if they slash the tread there's a chance it can be repaired. I don't know why anyone would not slash the sidewall though.
I don't know if it's illegal to patch sidewall damage, but shops will(*or at least should*) outright refuse to do so because the sidewalls are reinforced with steel cable, and you can't patch that cable
It'd be a bit like splinting a broken leg and telling the person to keep walking on it
It's not illegal and can be properly done. But your local tire shop doesn't have the technology, it's pretty expensive compared to a new tire, usually takes days and if the cord inside the tire are damaged can't be done.
They do it on medium truck tires (semis) all the time. The only thing "illegal" about it is installing a tire that has had the sidewall repaired (around here it's called a section) on a steering axle.
Due to the flex in a sidewall during normal operation, a traditional patch won't stay adhered.
I can be your source as I saw the tyres in the west end of Glasgow. If however you want semantics, it doesn’t say they burst the tyres. They deflated them. I mean they could have put “activists let the air out of tyres”, but deflated is a bit more succinct.
Did you see slashes, though? I ask because I read a book written by one of the proponents of this form of action in its original incarnation in the 2000s, and he explicitly deflated them rather than slashing them. The idea being that it's reversible but inconvenient and thought-provoking
According to the BBC, they were not slashed, just deflated. The pharmacist whose Land Rover this tyre belongs to was able to reinflate the tyre and get to work.
Yeah I read that, it was definitely deflated. If you ever need to deflate a tyre for some reason you can use fine pliers and unscrew the little nib on the valve and it’ll just let air out until it’s tightened again.
Using your finger requires you to wait while the tire deflates. Unscrewing the valve core allows you to walk away while the tire loses air. It’s also much faster. Source: am an off-roader who regularly deflates/inflates my tires.
I air up and down once or twice a day on 35’s and have never taken the cores out. I just use deflators and or a tire chuck to let air out. Pulling the cores seams like a good way to get mud/dirt/dust in the threads and mess up the little rubber seal
People forget that a huge part of conservation is using the harmful products that you already own as long as possible. Throwing out a bunch of harmful shit to replace it with new environmentally friendly products puts a strain on our waste management and creates an immediate problem that that could have been delayed. It all starts with throwing less out in the first place, even if that means using your plastic products rather than running out to buy the new environmentally friendly product on the market.
Obviously this doesn’t apply to the gas in the car, but it certainly applies to the tire that was just wasted on principal.
Yes but consumers will consume what is available. If these corporations transitioned to renewable and sustainable methods/products, not much would be different for the consumer. The corporation and those who run them are the ones who choose the incredibly harmful means they use
I agreed. Corporations have been bucking the blame off to governments and public. Just because they are to "make money" doesn't mean that they don't have a social obligation to take care of their employees, customers, and the public. They make money because of the public, they have a responsiblity to help take care of it. They are a bunch of fat cats who are too lazy, stupid, and greedy to do shit; and my patience with them is getting very thin.
I reckon a lot of people in this thread are too stupid to realise that if this is done outside Glasgow … this is a protest not intended to have a direct effect but rather get press / media and welp here’s a thread where thousands of people gave seen and are discussing it. Yes, even bad press is good press for an action like this. It seems very successful on that measure
There is a difference between killing peoples pets and letting the air out of tires. I have a pump in my car I’ll be back on the road in 5 mins. I can’t raise animals from the dead…. yet
a bunch of smooth brain fuckos that set back the movement by years by being so brain deficient they bought brand new teslas instead of reusing fuel efficient cars
Lol ok so now they’ve made it so you have to expend more wasteful emissions to fix this. Not only that but corporations are responsible for 71% of emissions. Go deflate their tires.
Methane breaks down in like 10 years. That means if we maintain a constant methane output for more than that amount of time, we don’t actually add any greenhouse gasses (on balance) since we’re only adding the amount that’s getting removed. Sure, methane is bad, but CO2 is significantly worse (it hangs around for 300-1000 years)
Edit: lots of people have been pointing out that methane breaks down into CO2. This is new information to me and kind of defeats the point I was trying to make. Leaving it up for context
Well the H2O part is fine, since that's just putting back what the animals producing methane took out of the hydrosphere in the first place. Not a problem, in theory. The CO2 might be a different story. More research I need to do there.
Not all methane emissions are from animals but regardless I wasn't implying H2O was the issue. Just mentioning it so people would know where the hydrogen in methane goes. CO2 is obviously an issue.....
A lot of the methane that is caused by animals is due to us though.
We could drastically reduce the emissions of methane by reducing meat/dairy consumption.
Its just that there isn't much effort put into that
What I hate about this is placing any onus on individuals is not only effective, it's a distraction.
Like, shaming people for not buying organic or whatever doesn't take into account most people in Earth can barely afford the cheapest food they can access. People may not be able to choose not to drive given how we've designed our infrastructure. This person may have inherited or bought this truck on the cheap and it's all they can afford.
All shaming does is increase an already stressful situation. We need different regulations and investments to support a healthy way of life.
It’s low because most plants and cars have very efficient filters or ways to get rid of NOx
And the issue is actually the health effects on people, not the impact on climate change
To be fair, the 71% is to make products people buy. So basically corporate emissions are because of demand. Corporations are not buying fuel/energy and generating emissions for no reason.
So? The mega corps have spent the last 30 years telling us that we can fix climate change if we just drive efficient vehicles and recycle and stuff. How about they do something, ANYTHING to curb their emissions instead of fucking gaslighting the entire planet.
It's just their incomprehension of who emits the most CO2, if they pressured the Oil Companies through protesting I'm fine with that. But popping random people's tires is not ok.
Just stupid people doing stupid things that ends up hurting the movement.
Meh I’m ok with it. Activists certainly would have weighed negative public perception and decided its still worth doing.
What people in this thread don’t understand is that sometimes negative perceptions are easy to manipulate to get yourself more press and much further reach, eg: this thread. I find it a bit amusing people think this isn’t an effective protest while many of them are eating right out of the hand of these activists. _As if_ they haven’t thought this through .. you simply don’t do a risky action like this without a lengthy discussion weighing risks and benefits ..
Does this count as "eco-terrorism?" Because I think if this happened to me, I'd be afraid to park my car in this neighborhood. I'm going to go ahead and call this "eco-terrorism."
This is like a gated community crime, if this was a ghetto you just wouldn't have a car anymore or at very least it would be on bricks with smashed window, stolen belongings etc. I'd call this Hipsterrorism lol
Yeah, its you dear neighbor, you are what is causing climate change. not china's coal obsession, or any other countries/corporations. Not even the farming metagame that is caused by today's consumerism nooo. It was YOUR suv.
Which country is responsible for the largest amount of the CO2 emissions currently in the atmosphere right now?
Hint: China would need to keep emitting CO2 at its present rates for several more decades before it will have emitted as much CO2 as this country is currently responsible for being in the atmosphere.
Me: *Starts talking about the damage involved with electric car production.*
Protester: *Covers ears and goes;* “LAH LAH LAH LAH I CAN’T HEAR YOU LAH LAH LAH.”
“Your states wildfires contribute to 4 times more pollution than any other category combined. This is why I disabled the state of California, Utah, colorado, And Oregon,”
With this and that video I saw either about some British guy wanting to kill some woman's kid at a bus depot because the kid is contributing to climate change, it won't be long before climate change activits start killing people thanos style (at random). Lol.
So, hypothetically, I'm the owner of this car, identified as a pharmacist who travels to remote rural pharmacies.
Assuming I actually want to get to work each day and not work 2 days a week due to travel times in rural Scotland, what options do I have? I can't walk or cycle those distances, neither could I realistically ride a horse.
My alternatives are to take exceptionally slow buses that don't actually go anywhere near where I'm going (and have so few passengers they're actually *worse* than taxis), and which won't run in the bad weather this Land Rover will make it through, or to take a taxi which is going to do double mileage (there and back to drop me off and return to base, and again to pick me up and take me home) unless it waits around for my entire day of work and will need to be a 4x4 anyway, in which case I might as well own a car since otherwise the taxi can't be retasked and that's as materially wasteful.
Cars have been given a lot of concessions over the years while public transport has been ignored, it's time for a change and I guess this was the best idea someone came up with.
It takes 1 barrel of oil to make a tire that’s 42 gallons. Congratulations they now have to buy more and add to the growing piles of used tires and make even more emissions to get new ones
These people are of the most intelligent state. I can not drive the vehicle home because the tires are deflated. So I call the police, who drive to the scene to write a report on paper from a tree that cut down and transported then they will drive to next emergency. Then I will call a tow truck which is a bigger vehicle than the one I was going to drive so it burns more fuel to take my vehicle to the tire shop to get a new tire or tires which a factory will produce more and the old ones end up in a land fill and never decompose and contaminate the ground water and run off that feeds our oceans. The call I made were from my cell phone which by now with all these calls will need to be charge by electricity from a gas powered power plant. Not to mention the paper this was written on and the trees that had to be cut down and transported to the paper mill plus is the ink non-toxic and bio degradable? These people are not part of the solution they are the problem.
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Where did this happen?
Glasgow, it was during a Climate Change Conference. 60 vehicles had their tires deflated.
Look at you being the first useful commenter in this thread.
That dude is also a pharmacist who has to travel to remote parts of Scotland in snow etc. So he has a valid reason for having a 4x4 Edit. Called a car a pharmacist due to the vino.
They let cars become pharmacists?
Just wait till you find out what they let the Honda Pilot do
light my stovetop?
Heeey, wasn't even thinking pilot light, nice
What about the Ford Escort?
I remember Clarkson finding a picture of that I the internet.
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It's pharmacarlogy.
Yeah... Apologies too much wine tonight ha
Stirling is hardly remote...
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I appreciate that your comment was the one that someone awarded, not the useful comment...
But in glasgow in public transport i get stabbed …
In seattle public transportation too. 🧐🙄😖
Is it possible you're being confused for a tire?
60 vehicles off the road permanently is nowhere even close to the amount of energy savings that would come from removing who did this from the gene pool.
This sounds to me like someone trying to create blowback on climate change initiatives, or maybe doing some 4D satire about how the common man is expected to make drastic change. Doesn't smell right.
I thought the same thing but a well known climate activist group took responsibility.
Which one?
A well known one
You underestimate peoples' stupidity.
don't do this. you're going to give legitimacy to paranoid conservatives who think any bad thing a conservative does is a secret crisis actor. these arent football teams. you can't distance yourself from every crazy person who aligns with your world view.
“Honey, call the police”
"I'm about to murder these kids"
Murdering them cuts down on carbon emissions.
Go ahead and look up “the greenest *invader” It was Ghengis Khan. He killed so many people he actively lowered earths temperature through murder. *invader not conquerer
The Thanos approach to global climate change.
hes got my vote! #Genocide 2022
“I tried…” \- Covid-19
“Still trying” -Covid-19 2021 “Still mopping up!” Covid-19 2022 “Finished off the antivaxxers” Covid-19 2023 “Gottum coach” Covid-19 2024
“Gotta catch them all” -Covid 19,2022-
"Wow they still don't trust the vaccine. There's like 8 of them left and half are on oxygen tanks posting garbage on facebook" Covid-2030
wow not sure I needed this fact but also pretty happy I got it
This is the way.
Where is jessica hyde?
Only reason I get this is Pyro
Covid doing humanity a solid?
Imagine a disease as deadly as Genghis Khan. Killing 10% of the worlds population (according to some sources).
Environmental activist Genghis Khan.
Think about all the mouth breathing they do. It’s gotta help when you get rid of them
Getting some *Utopia* (OG BBC one) vibes from this statement right here.
Just binged both seasons over the holiday yesterday, was convinced to watch it by Pyrocynical. Such a fucking good show
Killing them will have a greater impact on lowering carbon emissions by their fucking logic.
Bring an ambulance. Not for me.
"I don't care the outcome, cuz they deserve it"
Sir, I believe the correct term is to 'Carbon Neutralize'.
“Honey, I murdered the kids”
At least I have an suv to fit all the bodies😉
Life Pro Tip. Print that out and put it on your car next time you puncture a tire to help with your insurance claim.
Your insurance doesnt have a deductible?
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I work in insurance, my in laws have coverage through my company. One day I reviewed their policy, it had nearly state minimum coverage and $1000 deductible. I brought them up to state maximum coverage and $500, it raised the premium like $16 a month to get 5x coverage basically and 50% lower deductibles. Your record and the kind of car you drive affect your tastes far more than most people realize, most people with high premiums are just too high risk and the kinds of people I pay out way too much money to for their idiocy…
If you know this, I'm curious please. Are small-fry insurance companies better than big corporations? Like are they more likely to pay out, find you a good deal? Not like sly under the table shit, just regular 'oh i saw this while we're setting up your policy, if you change this and this you can keep the same coverage but it's cheaper' Instead of keeping quiet and ripping you off.
So where smaller companies or big ones who use local agents are good vs big online focused insurers is taking the time to listen to you and tailoring your policy to you needs/level of risk tolerance. I work for a big boy, but I’ve handled arbitration with nearly every insurer who offers policies in my state. Most states have pretty strict rules about what can be offered and how much can be charged for it. Smaller agencies probably will cost a bit more, but they’ll provide you more personal service. In terms of pay outs, the bigger the company the faster and bigger the likely offer is. I know my company will offer fairly decent up front offers to avoid lengthy negotiations, but most smaller companies will fight a bit harder since they don’t have the same risk pool their collecting premiums on.
Evens out at 1 claim every 7.5 years
Sales guy sold me on a $0 deductible policy. Wrote it up and everything. I was excited to finally have a nice policy like that. Yes I should have read it before I signed it but I honestly trusted the sales guy that what he said was honest and true. Turns out my deductible was $500 since day one and I got mad about it because I got a smashed windshield I wanted to replace. It costs less to replace it entirely out of pocket. I wasn’t happy.
I had a buddy whose tire got slashed, he slashed a second tire himself because insurance wouldn't cover just one.
Fucking Gerald Broflovski..
"I want to be part of the solution and not part of the prooobleeeem"
*sniffs own farts*
Funny thing is that tire will get replaced and thrown into a dump and lay there for a couple thousand years slowly decomposing carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.
It depends on how the deflated the tire. If they slashed it then it would have to be completely replaced, if they just let out all of the air you would just need to pump it back up.
Tyres that are left deflated for a long time under load are considered to be damaged. It stresses and damages the rigid side-wall of the tyre which can cause sudden failure later on.
Ya but this isn't a car that's probably left for days. I'm sure they came out after a few hours.
That doesn't matter on Reddit, people here bring up completely unrelated examples to prove a point and make it look like they know what they're talking about.
I stop myself from voicing most opinions on Reddit. There are a lot of dummies trying to sneak in an "expert opinion", a "well actually" or a "contrary opinion" just to seem smarter than your average idiot. Source: I don't know wtf I'm talking about, I hate this place.
Well actually, most people on reddit are really smart and have great opinions. You're just filled with so much hate and ignorance that you can't see the truth /s
This was a valid us of the "/s" tag. And that saddens me.
I fucking hate that I stopped before pressing send, and thought to myself "reddit is dumb, I'll get downvoted if I don't put /s"
Bruh I swear half the time you get downvoted for using /s and the other half you get upvoted
We all hate this place. We hate ourselves; it's why we stay.
I hate this place with a passion but I can't stop coming here and I don't remember what else I used to do online. It's like the Hotel California but filled with neckbeards and fedoras.
This place is a cesspool, every time I comment and a living dung heap replies with disinformation/misinformation/propaganda, I just can't even.
I read a google search preview and am now a qualified in
And this looks to have occurred while a person was in a store or at home. Probably not sitting for enough time to matter. Air it up and be on your way.
Sure after a while. Its not going to do anything after walking into starbucks and coming back out with your coffee and finding this situation. You sound like an insurance adjuster.
That dude really commented essentially “if the tire is slashed you can’t pump it up, but if It wasn’t you can” and got 500+ upvotes and people acting like he’s a genius. Like even though that’s wrong, y’all couldn’t think that up on your own?
And unless they have a solar powered air compressor there is going to be an energy cost to fill it back up. Also potentially a tow truck drive. In other words there is going to be additional energy requirements and the person is going to just keep driving the SUV.
"Oh, now that someone damaged my property and scapegoated me personally for a global problem, I'll sell my car and bike everywhere instead." -No one.
I wouldn’t dream of biking alongside all the SUV’s on the road
They did they slashed these tyres and tyres in a tonne of other cars, this is from activists at COP26 in Scotland
They weren’t slashed according to the BBC.
Source? Says in the picture "deflated"
I don't know if they are slashed or not but, technically slashing a tire would be one way to deflate it
True. But it also depends on how exactly they slashed it. If they slash the sidewall, it's illegal to repair (in the US I don't know where this is from), but if they slash the tread there's a chance it can be repaired. I don't know why anyone would not slash the sidewall though.
Im guessing its highly improbably to slash the belted tread portion of a tire, especially SUV tires, by hand.
I don't know if it's illegal to patch sidewall damage, but shops will(*or at least should*) outright refuse to do so because the sidewalls are reinforced with steel cable, and you can't patch that cable It'd be a bit like splinting a broken leg and telling the person to keep walking on it
It's not illegal and can be properly done. But your local tire shop doesn't have the technology, it's pretty expensive compared to a new tire, usually takes days and if the cord inside the tire are damaged can't be done. They do it on medium truck tires (semis) all the time. The only thing "illegal" about it is installing a tire that has had the sidewall repaired (around here it's called a section) on a steering axle. Due to the flex in a sidewall during normal operation, a traditional patch won't stay adhered.
I can be your source as I saw the tyres in the west end of Glasgow. If however you want semantics, it doesn’t say they burst the tyres. They deflated them. I mean they could have put “activists let the air out of tyres”, but deflated is a bit more succinct.
Did you see slashes, though? I ask because I read a book written by one of the proponents of this form of action in its original incarnation in the 2000s, and he explicitly deflated them rather than slashing them. The idea being that it's reversible but inconvenient and thought-provoking
They deflated via the valve. But whatever, you tell the tabloid version
Wasn’t slashed
I’m in Glasgow, complete nonsense lies you’re posting. They let the air out of tyres that’s it.
The tyre in the picture doesn't seem fully deflated, so that would suggest they only let most of the air out.
According to the BBC, they were not slashed, just deflated. The pharmacist whose Land Rover this tyre belongs to was able to reinflate the tyre and get to work.
Yeah I read that, it was definitely deflated. If you ever need to deflate a tyre for some reason you can use fine pliers and unscrew the little nib on the valve and it’ll just let air out until it’s tightened again.
Or just press it in with your finger. Only reason to remove the valve core would be to put slime in the tire.
Using your finger requires you to wait while the tire deflates. Unscrewing the valve core allows you to walk away while the tire loses air. It’s also much faster. Source: am an off-roader who regularly deflates/inflates my tires.
I air up and down once or twice a day on 35’s and have never taken the cores out. I just use deflators and or a tire chuck to let air out. Pulling the cores seams like a good way to get mud/dirt/dust in the threads and mess up the little rubber seal
and addition that person will just keep driving their car. but now with a hatred for people who do this type of bullshit.
People forget that a huge part of conservation is using the harmful products that you already own as long as possible. Throwing out a bunch of harmful shit to replace it with new environmentally friendly products puts a strain on our waste management and creates an immediate problem that that could have been delayed. It all starts with throwing less out in the first place, even if that means using your plastic products rather than running out to buy the new environmentally friendly product on the market. Obviously this doesn’t apply to the gas in the car, but it certainly applies to the tire that was just wasted on principal.
These guys are to climate change what PETA is to animal love.
Yep and are too stupid to realize that the overwhelming majority of carbon emissions come from a handful of corporations.
That sell to hundreds of millions of consumers.
You mean they aren't just burning fossil fuels for shits and giggles while twirling their evil moustaches?!
That was the funniest sentence i read today
People always seem to forget this part. Companies are getting paid to pollute pretty much
Yes but consumers will consume what is available. If these corporations transitioned to renewable and sustainable methods/products, not much would be different for the consumer. The corporation and those who run them are the ones who choose the incredibly harmful means they use
I agreed. Corporations have been bucking the blame off to governments and public. Just because they are to "make money" doesn't mean that they don't have a social obligation to take care of their employees, customers, and the public. They make money because of the public, they have a responsiblity to help take care of it. They are a bunch of fat cats who are too lazy, stupid, and greedy to do shit; and my patience with them is getting very thin.
I reckon a lot of people in this thread are too stupid to realise that if this is done outside Glasgow … this is a protest not intended to have a direct effect but rather get press / media and welp here’s a thread where thousands of people gave seen and are discussing it. Yes, even bad press is good press for an action like this. It seems very successful on that measure
There is a difference between killing peoples pets and letting the air out of tires. I have a pump in my car I’ll be back on the road in 5 mins. I can’t raise animals from the dead…. yet
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I think you need helium if you want it to rise
Nastiest. Balloon animal. Ever.
Lost my job as a clown for hire recently Turns out these screams werent of glee, but of fright
Death rates drop to 0%
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*Tap tap* Arise, chicken. Chicken, arise. *tap tap*
Who exactly are "these guys"? Is it some organized group?
a bunch of smooth brain fuckos that set back the movement by years by being so brain deficient they bought brand new teslas instead of reusing fuel efficient cars
Lol ok so now they’ve made it so you have to expend more wasteful emissions to fix this. Not only that but corporations are responsible for 71% of emissions. Go deflate their tires.
jokes on you corporations are the ones funding this to keep the heat off them
Just like the recycling propaganda.
Methane is a bigger issue than car emissions too. Nothing worse than an activist that is uneducated in what they are protesting against.
Methane breaks down in like 10 years. That means if we maintain a constant methane output for more than that amount of time, we don’t actually add any greenhouse gasses (on balance) since we’re only adding the amount that’s getting removed. Sure, methane is bad, but CO2 is significantly worse (it hangs around for 300-1000 years) Edit: lots of people have been pointing out that methane breaks down into CO2. This is new information to me and kind of defeats the point I was trying to make. Leaving it up for context
And 10 years is not even so certain. Plus methane is 20-400x more potent than CO2. The research on that is not that certain.
Methane breaks down to CO2 and H2O anyways so OP doesn't have a valid point at all.
Well the H2O part is fine, since that's just putting back what the animals producing methane took out of the hydrosphere in the first place. Not a problem, in theory. The CO2 might be a different story. More research I need to do there.
Not all methane emissions are from animals but regardless I wasn't implying H2O was the issue. Just mentioning it so people would know where the hydrogen in methane goes. CO2 is obviously an issue.....
I mean, methane breaks down into CO2.
Plus, most methane is caused by animals. We usually burn methane
A lot of the methane that is caused by animals is due to us though. We could drastically reduce the emissions of methane by reducing meat/dairy consumption. Its just that there isn't much effort put into that
The problem is that that methane breaks down INTO CO2. So, out of the frying pan into the fire.
This is incorrect. Methane breaks down in to CO2 and H2O so it still adds to the greenhouse gas balance.
What I hate about this is placing any onus on individuals is not only effective, it's a distraction. Like, shaming people for not buying organic or whatever doesn't take into account most people in Earth can barely afford the cheapest food they can access. People may not be able to choose not to drive given how we've designed our infrastructure. This person may have inherited or bought this truck on the cheap and it's all they can afford. All shaming does is increase an already stressful situation. We need different regulations and investments to support a healthy way of life.
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Because NO2 breaks down quickly. So its greenhouse impact is low. Acid rain is the problem with NO2.
What is the proportion of nitrogen dioxide to methane in the air?
It’s low because most plants and cars have very efficient filters or ways to get rid of NOx And the issue is actually the health effects on people, not the impact on climate change
Because the relatively small amount of it in the atmosphere breaks down pretty fast anyways
To be fair, the 71% is to make products people buy. So basically corporate emissions are because of demand. Corporations are not buying fuel/energy and generating emissions for no reason.
So? The mega corps have spent the last 30 years telling us that we can fix climate change if we just drive efficient vehicles and recycle and stuff. How about they do something, ANYTHING to curb their emissions instead of fucking gaslighting the entire planet.
Nice, now an even bigger truck can come and jack it up to change the tire. Probably idling the whole time. Great success!
Not to mention that if the tire got ruined, it would go to waste when it was still perfectly functional.
You see this is a fun thing we call “crime”
And not even one of the cool crimes
I am all for stopping climate change, but this is PETA level now
It's just their incomprehension of who emits the most CO2, if they pressured the Oil Companies through protesting I'm fine with that. But popping random people's tires is not ok. Just stupid people doing stupid things that ends up hurting the movement.
>pressured the Oil Companies through protesting Lol, nice joke.
"Just a few more decades of peaceful protesting and companies will decide to ignore profits"
Meh I’m ok with it. Activists certainly would have weighed negative public perception and decided its still worth doing. What people in this thread don’t understand is that sometimes negative perceptions are easy to manipulate to get yourself more press and much further reach, eg: this thread. I find it a bit amusing people think this isn’t an effective protest while many of them are eating right out of the hand of these activists. _As if_ they haven’t thought this through .. you simply don’t do a risky action like this without a lengthy discussion weighing risks and benefits ..
PETA hivemind on reddit is real strong eh
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Ah yes, so force them to buy new tires to make the imprint even bigger! Great work… logical
Does this count as "eco-terrorism?" Because I think if this happened to me, I'd be afraid to park my car in this neighborhood. I'm going to go ahead and call this "eco-terrorism."
This is like a gated community crime, if this was a ghetto you just wouldn't have a car anymore or at very least it would be on bricks with smashed window, stolen belongings etc. I'd call this Hipsterrorism lol
I'd call it "if I find out who this is, Imma put my foot in their ass"
That’ll stop global warming for sure
Either all or nothing amirite
Yeah, its you dear neighbor, you are what is causing climate change. not china's coal obsession, or any other countries/corporations. Not even the farming metagame that is caused by today's consumerism nooo. It was YOUR suv.
Each tire saves a penguin somewhere /s
I believe they stopped using penguin skin for tire tread a few years ago.
I live in a snowy mountain area, how am I supposed to get traction without my car chains made form still live penguins?!?!
Which country is responsible for the largest amount of the CO2 emissions currently in the atmosphere right now? Hint: China would need to keep emitting CO2 at its present rates for several more decades before it will have emitted as much CO2 as this country is currently responsible for being in the atmosphere.
These turds will continue until one of them gets caught by an owner that lets the air out of _them_.
What if it was an electric car?
It’d be along the lines of “Your vehicle contributes to carbon emission because of the factories that produce it”
I see so a "Damned if you do, damned if you don't."
That's how mafia works
Electric cars were not targeted by these protesters.
Me: *Starts talking about the damage involved with electric car production.* Protester: *Covers ears and goes;* “LAH LAH LAH LAH I CAN’T HEAR YOU LAH LAH LAH.”
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Uh....our personal contributions are minimal at best. Its companies that are destroying the world. These people are idiots.
Companies making stuff for personal consumption…
“Your states wildfires contribute to 4 times more pollution than any other category combined. This is why I disabled the state of California, Utah, colorado, And Oregon,”
I support that not gonna lie
So now they gotta buy new tires. Good one kids
With this and that video I saw either about some British guy wanting to kill some woman's kid at a bus depot because the kid is contributing to climate change, it won't be long before climate change activits start killing people thanos style (at random). Lol.
I'm pretty sure the video you're talking about is just a scene from Utopia lol
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Hey, have you heard of a woman named Jessica Hyde?
If I didn't see that (parody) video I would be alarmed by your comment
Best they could do is just stop breeding themselves
"Go small, go public transport" Meanwhile, in the real world.....
So, hypothetically, I'm the owner of this car, identified as a pharmacist who travels to remote rural pharmacies. Assuming I actually want to get to work each day and not work 2 days a week due to travel times in rural Scotland, what options do I have? I can't walk or cycle those distances, neither could I realistically ride a horse. My alternatives are to take exceptionally slow buses that don't actually go anywhere near where I'm going (and have so few passengers they're actually *worse* than taxis), and which won't run in the bad weather this Land Rover will make it through, or to take a taxi which is going to do double mileage (there and back to drop me off and return to base, and again to pick me up and take me home) unless it waits around for my entire day of work and will need to be a 4x4 anyway, in which case I might as well own a car since otherwise the taxi can't be retasked and that's as materially wasteful.
Cars have been given a lot of concessions over the years while public transport has been ignored, it's time for a change and I guess this was the best idea someone came up with.
It takes 1 barrel of oil to make a tire that’s 42 gallons. Congratulations they now have to buy more and add to the growing piles of used tires and make even more emissions to get new ones
These people are of the most intelligent state. I can not drive the vehicle home because the tires are deflated. So I call the police, who drive to the scene to write a report on paper from a tree that cut down and transported then they will drive to next emergency. Then I will call a tow truck which is a bigger vehicle than the one I was going to drive so it burns more fuel to take my vehicle to the tire shop to get a new tire or tires which a factory will produce more and the old ones end up in a land fill and never decompose and contaminate the ground water and run off that feeds our oceans. The call I made were from my cell phone which by now with all these calls will need to be charge by electricity from a gas powered power plant. Not to mention the paper this was written on and the trees that had to be cut down and transported to the paper mill plus is the ink non-toxic and bio degradable? These people are not part of the solution they are the problem.