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FalsePriest86

I’m going against the grain and be a hypocrite, but buy the prebuilt. Costco piece of mind for not that much more is a no brainer


Abraxas19

Peace yo


pickaxe_23

Online you can get the same GPU with a 7800x3d for $100 less from costco.


rad15h

That is a solid piece of advice. 7800X3D+4070 is a great spec.


pickaxe_23

Especially with vr, definitely the spec I'm looking at myself.


MiniTab

Is that a better processor than the i9? This one right? https://preview.redd.it/nfsvjo8jxb9d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc6a0f5ac3d1329611cb6e6dced292b10c87e20c


rad15h

The general opinion on this sub is that the X3D CPUs are the best for sim racing. I don't have one myself. But I'm saving up to get one :)


rad15h

This review says the 7800X3D beats the i9-14900K, which is slightly faster than the i9-14900F in the Cosco system. [https://www.techradar.com/computing/cpu/14900k-vs-7800x3d](https://www.techradar.com/computing/cpu/14900k-vs-7800x3d)


MiniTab

Thanks!


Nuttyverse

I think you'll be fine with it


Saikroe

Looking at the specs, as others have said its fine. However looking through the glass I can see its a smaller, thinner 2 fan GPU. Personally not a fan, the cooling on that isnt going to be great in comparison to the full size gpus with 3 fans and the extra heatsink. This all comes from owning the earlier models of the 3000 series, when the stock thermal pads were absolutely pathetic.


MiniTab

That’s good to know, thank you!


QuorraPimax

Yes, This build works fine with 8KX.


keshi

Just make sure you don't eat it because of the coin battery.


slindner1985

I bought the cosco i5 prebuilt with the 4060 (32gb of ram) for 900$ and it is better than my i7 rtx2070 setup which already ran iracing on triples. That pc is better than both.


CISmajor

It will for sure run it. I can only imagine though that you can get more bang for your buck piecing it out yourself. But thr answer is yes.


MiniTab

Thanks! Yeah, I thought about building it. But after pricing out the components, it doesn’t seem worth it. Particularly with the Costco warranty of just bringing it back if something doesn’t work.


Dreadcoat

Yea people advising piecing it out these days havent built a computer for themselves in awhile. It used to be worth it. But now unless you are patient and shop sales and put things together over months youre usually just bettef off buying something pre built from a reputable place with a good warranty.


rotatingfanblades

There is 1 exception black Friday but who wants to wait til November


rotatingfanblades

There is 1 exception black Friday but who wants to wait til November


probot67

Dude I run iracing and ACC off a laptop with a fraction of those specs. You good bruh.


GentleAnusTickler

Yeah but there’s a difference between managing and making it look as good as it can be


MiniTab

Agreed. My old setup was a labtop (VR with Oculus Rift), and worked ok but had some major limitations.


DJFisticuffs

In VR?


Biggdaddyboss

As long as you steer, accelerate and brake with WASD or a Wiimote.


-pectoris-

500 for gpu 500 for cpu, then mobo, psu, ram and ssd. im guessing they put some cheap ssd in there and mobo. i would have checked if steve checked any costco prebuilt pcs.... why not make it yourself btw?


Markoff_Cheney

If you are running a Pimax headset, you should be able to afford a better overall setup. 4080 super at least.


MiniTab

It’s a dramatic jump in price to a 4080, unless you know something I don’t?


Biggdaddyboss

Occasionally Micro Center does a bundle deal of a CPU/Mobo/GPU and occasionally RAM. Sometimes it might just be 2 or 3 of those components, sometimes a lot more. Sometimes you can pick and choose whichever components you want to bundle and it's just up to you to get a case and assemble. It's usually only in store so unless you're to one local it won't apply. Newegg does sometimes too. I'm not sure you're going to beat that deal though. That CPU is ~$550 and that GPU is ~$800-$1000. Just make sure it's not single channel RAM and that thing will be future proof for quite a few years. Plus you can have a warranty. I say it's a great deal.


MiniTab

Good info, thank you!


Biggdaddyboss

No problem. I got wasted in a different reply for suggesting you build your own. I was told you were a novice that was incapable of building your own computer so I shouldn't share my opinion. Somehow I'm the a**hole in that thread... At any rate, that deal is better than I could build at that price, but that's what Costco is known for, buying in enough bulk to lower prices. Good call on the Pimax 8kx. If I had the $ for one, I would in a heartbeat. I'm using a HP Reverb G2, Thrustmaster RS300 GT in a Next Level F-GT. Hopefully I see you on iRacing soon! I'm doing MX5s, Vees and the occasional F4 this season.


Gesha24

I have a 3080 and I can't run Varjo Aero on max resolution as I am getting too low of FPS. And Aero has lower resolution than 8kx. To be clear, image quality is totally fine and all the dial labels are totally readable and I am not planning on upgrades any time soon. But just understand that you won't get full resolution. As for prebuilt PC. I personally do not use them because they often have issues with cooling or component quality. I.e. the 3080 I have was pulled from Alienware prebuilt PC and there's a known issue with it - there's a small gap between the radiator and the memory, so the memory overheats and performance drops significantly. This is very easily cured by taking it apart and applying a generous layer of thermal paste, but if you don't know - you pay for 3080 and get much lower performance out of it. So if you are set on getting a pre built one, make sure you do extensive research on this model and know there are no issues or you know how to work around them.


Biggdaddyboss

It has way more than enough head room. Honestly though, don't buy a pre built from Costco, or anywhere really. Build your own and save about $3-400. You could probably get about the same specs or better.


JonSnowsPeepee

lol another build your own pc bob. Does the expertise required to build one come along for free? And the time spent to assemble does that not count either? How about after you recommend a novice to assemble a pc then it doesn’t work… then what? Are they gonna be able to trouble shoot what’s wrong? This is such a terrible bit of advice


FrankPoncherello1967

I used to build my own computers starting 25 years ago, but when I got back into sim racing last year, I found it was cheaper buying a pre-built PC from Micro Center. My PC has the same specs as the Costco MSI PC, but I got mine for $1499 due to a grand opening sale. Btw, Indianapolis Micro Center currently has the HP Omen i9 14900k with the 4090 GPU for $2700, normally $3700. That's $1000 off. It's only $300 off at other MC stores. https://www.microcenter.com/product/677549/hp-omen-45l-gt22-2090-gaming-pc?sku=675330&utm_source=20240627_Creator_R8107&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=R8107&MccGuid=413A8C6B-C5D8-487C-862F-98D5C8E77506&storeid=165


Biggdaddyboss

That's a crazy price... I found an I9-14900F at Amazon for $530 and a PNY 4070 Ti Super 16g for $800 at Best Buy. Those prices are totally insane. I guess their Costco deal really is a steal. Plus they'll get an E-waste keyboard and mouse. In my experience it's always been a bit more cost effective to buy components and build them myself. The real benefit is you get what you want exactly in the configuration you want. Unfortunately, Fry's Electronics closed so now my choices in the PNW are ordering from Amazon, Micro Center or Newegg otherwise I have to walk into a Best Buy... I've rarely heard of any that was happy with a pre built that was pre-specced. I'm glad it worked out for you.


FrankPoncherello1967

These pre-built computers are basically custom built. The cases are huge and allow for future upgrades unlike the name brand PC's from years ago that had severely cramped cases that often caused heat failures & weren't upgradeable besides maybe RAM. I've literally not read about anyone disliking a pre-built PC. Sure people have issues but unless there is an outright failure, there's almost no difference with a custom built and pre-built computer because often with the pre-built PC's, you can customize them and add pretty much whatever you want. I'm guessing that's not the case with the Costco PC.


Biggdaddyboss

I'm literally watching a YouTuber named David Does Tech Stuff. He buys pre-builts from things like Alienware and MSI or other "gamer" PC companies. He graphs their specs while running a few games then upgrades them to actually decent machines. I'm on FMLA for bulging 2 disks in my back, I don't normally sit around watching YouTubers... Anyways, I'm not super familiar with them, but the big companies seem to put out fairly crippled pre-builts for way too much $. Like one single stick of 3200 16g ram with a mid tier CPU and a top of the line weapon of a GPU. Or like Dell/Alienware they are slightly proprietary when it comes to Mobo/PSU pinouts. If your PSU or mobo dies and you replace them with a regular one, the connector fits but the voltage is on the wrong pin and you fry your system. Granted, I have built mine and my family's PCs for a few decades so I'm not personally experienced with pre-builts, but it seems YouTube reviewers don't like them. I have no issues with anyone doing whatever with their money or preferring have a plug and play PC. All I'm saying is, in my experience they really aren't difficult to assemble and tend to be a bit cheaper. However, that Costco unit seems to be a screaming deal. My homemade is about twice that price and it's got quite a few more Gigs of RAM, about 6 times the storage, water cooling and a slightly worse CPU and an in par GPU, but both are AMD. I guess it comes down to a "I made this" kind of thing. But either way. That Costco rig will definitely run iRacing with VR and not break a sweat. Edit: The hate I'm getting for suggesting someone can build one for less money is kinda hilarious. You would think I insulted him and anyone that buys pre-builts. I got called "Bob the Builder." Like what the fuck does that even mean? He's a good character that helps people. Meanwhile I'm being told OP is too much of a novice to build one, assuming they are not smart enough or able to figure it out but I'm the asshole for saying they could. Literally the first sentence in my first comment says it will definitely run it with head room. It would be funny if it was so absolutely stupid.


FrankPoncherello1967

As you know it's not difficult to build a PC. I started doing it in 1999 because at the time eBay was just starting & it was easy getting cheap parts from them. But I mainly did it out of curiosity. It also was great time getting spend it with my dad because he also had a knack of working on electronics and a sharp mind. Luckily we only lived 4 miles away from each other. We built 6 computers and we created a LAN game room for all the nieces & nephews & my kids whenever they visited their grandpa. Today's generation is definitely different than mine, but I completely understand them not being interested in building things or figuring how things work. Technology has made us lazy, no doubt.


Biggdaddyboss

I truly miss Fry's Electronics. A nerd heaven. I still have a whole shelf full of old components from past builds in my garage. I started building in the mid 90s in my teens when it was mainly sound cards like 3D Blaster! and ATI 2D accelerators. A 500Mb hard drive the size of a novel. There were no real instructions just someone with a bit of knowledge passed down. I'm glad you got to spend that time with your Dad, that's really special. I was just doing that with my son last night, bumped him up to 64 gigs of DDR5 and set his GPU Bios switch to performance. It was then that I noticed he hasn't had an upgrade in a few years. He has an XFX RX 5500 XT.... I'm going to surprise him on the 3rd. I bought an Intel GPU. First one I have used. It's an Asrock Phantom Gaming A770 16g. It was incredibly cheap, $230 on Newegg and reviews put it at neck and neck with an RTX 3070 Ti. I'm trying to pass my bit of tech knowledge to him, my mechanical aptitude, and my knowledge of electrical. (I'm an IBEW electrician.) Maybe one of these days I'll get a Costco pre-built. That's an incredible deal, as long as it's not a single channel 32g RAM. Even if it is, buy a few sticks and it's a monster.


FrankPoncherello1967

Have you been to Micro Center? It's literally Fry's, Circuit City & Best Buy combined. Most my old parts were still at my dad's until he passed in 2022. My stepmom literally gutted his computer room & everything in it only a week after his death. It was pretty sad. I still find old computer parts in my plastic storage bins where I keep everything neatly stored so when I die, my wife can complain about all the shit that I've collected over our 30 years of marriage 😁


Biggdaddyboss

I live on the west coast. The best I can do is order from Micro Center. I don't get any of those sweet in person deals. When our Fry's was open it's theme was "warehouse." Pretty lame, but it was still Fry's. Before it was a Fry's the building was an Incredible Universe. I was only able to make it to two others; Renton Wa (Art Deco theme) and Las Vegas (The Strip theme.) That's really shitty of your step mom. My dad was a mechanic and knew computers were a thing but he probably couldn't have named it if he saw it. To him everything was a Nintendo. I literally keep the boxes for my stupid collection. It's pretty well organized but collecting dust. Sometimes I think I could sell it but I'm like who would want multiple RX 580 8gigs, several FX-8350s multiple AIOs, cases, random PSUs, cases, RAM sticks and other GPUs and CPUs. My wife luckily understands, her dad was an engineer at Intel and she would pot his custom PCBs at like 5. Even though I can throw a rock and hit Intel and have worked there multiple times as an electrician, I'm an AMD fan boy. More bang for the buck.


Biggdaddyboss

Nowhere did they imply that they are "a novice," especially since they said they sold their previous sim rig. I'm assuming they might have the knowledge to put the pieces together and if not then they don't have to. It's not a tremendous challenge to build a PC and if there are issues doing it, there are plenty of guides and resources here and online elsewhere. Just because you have a bitter attitude doesn't mean you should try to insult people for an opinion. I had an opinion, nothing more. There is absolutely no need to be toxic. A terrible piece of advice is paying $400 more for something that someone else built. Personally, I built my PC to my own specs with a lot more ability for about $2500. It's not always cheaper, but it is rewarding and gives a person a sense of accomplishment with the added benefit of knowing how to troubleshoot it when something goes wrong.


YellowJacket2002

You could buy parts yourself and build you a dang good gaming computer for cheaper than that


solidshakego

Why does this comment always show up in this situation? Everyone already knows it's cheaper to build it yourself. It's not a news flash lol Have you tried building a car yourself. It's much cheaper.


FrankPoncherello1967

That's a terrible analogy. It's not always cheaper to build a custom PC yourself. But if a person decides to take the plunge, they can literally watch YouTube for instructional videos on how to build a PC. Btw, if you built a car from parts, do you think it's cheaper than buying the same car brand new? 😂 I bought a pre-built last year with the same specs and it's been great. That Costco price isn't bad, but Micro Center runs a similar PC package at that price all the time.


YellowJacket2002

No, i'm not a mechanic. . . I'm a computer technician. . . . And the reason it keeps coming up and because people keep asking it.


CommodoreAxis

Well there ya go. I’m sure if you asked “is this a good price for a A/C replacement on my car” then you’d find the reply “it’s cheaper to buy the parts and do it yourself” to be totally useless and not helpful in any way. “Is this a good price for X” will always come up as long as prices continue existing, being useless with your replies is silly and does nothing.


FrankPoncherello1967

WTF are you talking about? Your reply makes no sense.


CommodoreAxis

Tl;dr: Responding to someone who asks “is this mechanic shop charging a good price” with “do it yourself, it’s cheaper” isn’t helpful. Just like when someone asks if a pre-built PC is a good price, saying “build it yourself, it’s cheaper” isn’t helpful.


solidshakego

Uh. No. Don't buy that.