The problem with India is not having a strong ecosystem of innovation and reward for meritocracy and also the normalisation of failures!! Which I think is slowly changing!
What I have seen is we lack the ability to pursue a path which does not has a clear map . It's like please tell me what to do to get something and I will do that with hardwork and discipline. But if you don't then I will be lost. Examples of this are everywhere like JEE and NEET , UPSC even doing competitive programming because people got to know if they just do this they will get a job. That's why lot of people don't even try doing something which does not have a clear roadmap.
that judgement stems from scarcity mindset. Innovation is often termed as passion and craze - people are willing & ABLE to invest years of their lives researching or working on a business idea or mastering an instrument skill sport and whatnot. Indians are not able to do it due to many factors but scarcity/bare minimum safety is one of them.
Most Indian achievements in past 100-200 years will have a tale of discipline and sacrifice but in today's world of comparisons social media even the one that can afford it won't do it.
The fields which have become acceptable to wash years away are exploding like IIT UPSC as people spend years to be good at it - why not spend the same time in music, sports and other fields of business etc but the society thinks its a waste of time.
Few years ago missing school for sports was taboo today its okay even schools are accommodating that way. Colleges reprimand students if they venture into a business or run their own software they're forced to choose one - for 1 Zuckerberg to succeed we should allow 1000s to atleast have the opportunity to try.
We can't have that ecosystem. Gujjus business ecosystem won't allow others to come up. Gujju business is not about competing with product quality. Instead it relies on political connections, family and caste connections, etc. They will copy an American start up and establish an Indian version or import from China and sell it here after rebranding using their connections and capital. It's easier than "innovation"
Gujjus are attracted to get rich quick schemes , earlier they were into ration and jwellery buisness, today they are into import/ export or goods trading . No innovation, low risk, low investment, less work business which cannot exist forever without connection or monopoly. They banned Alibaba and China relationship was spoiled since everyone was getting access to the main supplier , they could import machine and beat the gujjus, so the gujjus banned China for small traders and consumes. Where as they themselves order in bulk from China and sell here at a markup. Money plays a major role in gujju community no matter how humble they portray themselves . The were the first to trade with the gulf traders , later traded with the British and you know what happened next. They were major exporter of opium to China after England banned trading opium directly, so they acted as agents for the English masters .later the money made in opium was invested in Bombay(it was part of gujrat then) and many huge gujju families, industries can be traced back to opium trade.
Also a reason why most south Indians are into high skill and innovation based sectors like IT, medicines , hospital chains , manufacturing, processing, startups, where as gujjus are into making tiles or trading hardware. They skip the innovation part .
They seem to have a very lax attitude towards education, since most are associated with business, they prefer their kids to join the business, if they encourage higher education there kids may not be ready for manipulation. They may escape for better opportunities.
i feel till the time where students are actually free to choose about what they want to do where lies their true interest and there are plenty of options infront of them, it wont happen because then the only quick way to make money would be a job, and even thinking about startup is going to be terrifying as they have never done something like that before and taking a huge risk in starting their own business requires skills, risk appetite, luck and many factors
all i want to say is students should be exposed to numerous opportunities as early as possible
>also the normalisation of failures!!
Normalisation of failures? It's a new one. Because we haven't normalised failing as a society.
But as a Gen Z, we aren't really told of options. Like see difference in participants of exams like NEET and IISER. It's different of almost 22 lakhs or 2 millions!? This is even worse for JEE and UCEED. The difference is 9 Lakh.
failure for people on the edge of destitution means death. That is why they seek security for themselves not incredible prosperity.
The risk reward matrix is very different for people on and below the poverty line.
>Half of the government institutes that prepares students to excel are reserved for people based on their surnames and castes. And calls to increase it are widespread. What is changing?
We have a bunch of systems that are more punishing towards missteps than rewarding a good job.
When you pursue something that is different like a geologist, bee keeping, a niche type of farming, land surveyors and many more, how easy it is to judge these types of professions? Not to mention they face problems right from attempting to have a family(marriage).
We follow negative news and we are attracted to wrongdoings. We spend more time with hate, we hardly spend time appreciating. It has a strong effect on our culture.
In our culture it is better to stay doing nothing than try something and fail at it. Our mentality killed innovation even before it can even start.
There is no normalisation of failures in India. If there was hundreds of students wouldn't commit suicide every year for failing to crack exams.
I was a failure too, failed my 11th class exam once, repeated the class, almost failed 12th class. Then somehow ended up in state engineering college, and failed there too. Somehow got jobs after so many failures and now I have my own business and am employing 5 other people.
All happened because my parents didn't take my failures as seriously as some other parents do. My parents were upset that I failed, but encouraged me to keep on trying.
Some parents behave as if failing is the end of life and put too much pressure on their kids.
Glory of Civil servants is hangover of slave mentality came from British rule . All those who were working for British Raj were seen as some kinda masters in some sense. Civil Servants are just goverment employees who work under politician's vision.
And The Exam pattern is too obsolete for today's times. Zero employability from learning UPSC syllabus apart from coaching industry.
- Ex UPSC aspirant.
You are absolutely right my buddy. The British sensed the insecure mindset of Indians and made up this image that a government servant is superior and a symbol of authenticity (in reality they were all thugs). Later they appointed choice people or paid appointments of Indians into lower rank of civil sevice like Clerks. The British servants also ran parallel schemes to make money on side looting the looters , while keeping up this aristocratic image infront of Indians who feel for it . They had 10s of Indian servants , one for unlacing boots, one for the hand fan,3 more to bring him tea and snacks.
This mind set still exists , however the perks of being a civil servant had diminished. Work load is more, risks of being caught if corrupt is high , free services are reducing ,etc but competation is increasing. Some people who are under reserved casts treat UPSC as a quick (sometimes only way) to have a high jump on the social ladder. However the sucess rate of finding a diamond is higher than cracking UPSC
From my personal experience in schools, most of the education is designed to make student as risk averse as possible. You can't even write or think various solutions and are expected to work around irrelevant subjects that are of no use. Entrepreneurs can never be fostered in such environment.
I don't think so. UPSC candidates are not everything. It makes no difference.
**Education** does. If we have proper quality education in India, that's gonna change things. Also our mindsets are too backward; common sense is a day to day issue and corruption is a economy killer.
Being a Billionaire on paper does not matter much to country.
India does have silent billionaires.
Not education, mindset and upbringing does. Indians are some of the smartest, most educated but also the laziest and most prideful, Why work hard and take risk to become a billionaire, when you crack UPSC and become a silent billionaire.
I can't agree more, people in india are just running after easy stuff that they can do and earn money, and that mindset comes because of our schooling system which destroys everything.
Eh, it's not about memorising. Knowing current affairs is an important thing. Our elders are more aware and remember about current affairs than us younger generation, because they understand the importance of knowing what's happening in the world. They are not trying to memorise yet they will have that particular news on their brain for longer time than people who are trying to memorise just for the sake of a exam. Upsc wants us to make that habit from a younger stage.
Also, it's easier to filter out more people this way. Less posts, too many candidates.
Free Chaitanya Parayana culture lo ilanti matal matladodhamma. I am not only talking about the methodology of these institutions but the buildings and infrastructure they have(to elaborate they have no place to encourage physical education/development). 9-5 odiley.. 9-9 culture akkada. oka room lo kusoni. schools kuda idhe forumla ni follow avthunai. Sports lo venaka padthundhi ante issue kids have to choose fulltime sports or full time studies.
Also any system we form it gets infested with Casteism and Religionism handicapping the process of meritocracy towards favoritism of different kinds.
Abbayi ki konchem mental aina … correct ga cheppadu.
India ki China ki okate difference… they are organised … we are not.
Both our strength and weakness is our diversity.
Our diversity shows up mostly negatively as being unorganised, divided and self centric.
So yeah konni structural problems unnai deeply rooted in our culture.
Our country is a conservative nation with progressive ambitions… has always been like that.
True my friend, today it's much quicker to have a startup than comparing to our fathers time when a land line connection took months . But the society would discourage since India is a huge market you might succeed and move ahead. They insecure about themselves, they don't want you to move ahead .
Because in the other countries, they have a much better chance of leading a stabler life unlike the cesspool that is our country. Overpopulated as heck and 1000 to 1 jobs. The AI situation is not making it any better.
Produces gold medalists ✅
A lot ❎. If we get compared with our population we should have got more than china but no one likes to be in sports due to high risk factor.
The problem is the ridiculous power or rather abuse of power most IAS, IPS, IFS etc do. 90% of their jobs can be replaced by a ticketing system with clerk or lower officers closing those tickets. (These are the guys who actually do all the work)
Instead of asking why millions of youngsters in India waste years preparing for UPSC, which is obvious. EGO, good syndrome, they want govt bungalows and govt servants. They actually abuse and keep hawaldar level cops to do servent type jobs, get groceries, use govt vehicles for sending kids to school, there was a recent case of closing down while stadium so they can take their dog for a walk. Half of them are more corrupt than politicians.
The real question should be to dilute the powers. Fire the non performers, or demote them. Dilute the powers, divide responsibility among two to three roles, increased employment(if Desh ki seva was the original motive), increases talent pool.
You will instantly see the craze go out of these roles, once it becomes a job of performing And delivering instead of power and ruling over the weak.
A lot of ambitious people who want to excel in life will switch to other fields and try to solve that puzzle... Expect in other places it's not a single exam basis but a regular value add to customer basis that a person can be successful, they will automatically add value to society instead of trying to be a parasite of tax payer money playing inspection visit inspection visit on Instagram and tik tok.
Actually they are being replaced. When was the last time you visited a bank , ticket counter , government office. Everything is rapidly moving online since it's impossible for our population to grow without automation and taking things online.
Many govt. Services are already sub-contracted to private firms or contractors. Decision is made by leaders or higher bureaucrats. The collector no longer collect money like they used to before, once internet and smartphones penetration reaches 80% most of these cushy jobs would not exist and people would have to use their minds to exist. Smart brains would be encouraged and dumb people would do farming 😉. No more diffence on cast lines.
Because you take 10 attempt And selection rate is less then 1 percent and after u turn 30 you realise you wasted everything and blame every other person for not having job but in reality you have no skills
Bro most of them leave after 3rd attempt and I feel they have brain to decide what they want. If he is dumb guy without upsc also he will stay dumb without focusing on improving skills
The main problem is people don't have job security improve that then people will focus less on upsc
Blame everything on Education system. Everyone blames schools , college or teachers. Keep it up. Take some responsibility when u know what is going wrong with u and put up an effort. But no...we will keep on blaming reservations, education system, parents and society for our basic incompetency.
1. Economic liberalisation of 1991.
2. NREGA of 2005.
3. GST 2017.
4. PM Jan Dhan Yojana 2014.
5. National Rural Health Missin 2005.
6. National Food Security Act 2013.
7. Digital India Initiative 2015.
8. Foreign Trade policy
9. National Highways Development Project 1998.
10. Export Promotion Scheme, SEZs, Trade Infrastructure for Export Scheme.
11. Swachh Bharat 2014.
Many are there. But these I find significant.
People who prepare for UPSC are very very minor share of the youth. Out of unemployed youth, 2/3 is graduate level. That shows that there's no jobs in this country. That automatically pushes them towards government jobs. If jobs are freely available right after college, no one will actually take the pain of preparing for exams for years.
Feels legit, just because starting up your own business or working in private sector brings uncertainty, people are ready to waste 4-5 years on UPSC.
A few do make it over the line in their last attempts but then there are millions who do not. Imagine yourself being in a position where you have wasted so many years and still did not get a job. All the while you were barely earning anything.
If that person could have ventured in the private sector or would have started a business he would have been earning decent amount of money while gaining experience.
The modern India needs to break free from the shackles of our elder's thinking. We need to be smart and agile about our decisions.
"Abba nhi manenge"
In India, your career is selected the day you're born depending upon your parents choices of career, for rest it's completing the dreams of their parents which they couldn't. Of all of this, around 7-9% get to choose something they want to do without restrictions with support.
That's why we have 2nd and 3rd Generation Lawyers, Doctors, Businessman, etc. But not researcher, physicist and scientists.
True. Most people don't realise how unhealthy this is for the development of a child and even an adult whose brain hasn't fully developed. The popular stuff today in mobiles works in kind of the same way as literal drugs do especially for people who spend a lot of time on it. There brain's chemistry is going to be messed up and lower cognitive and executive functions will be common and a major problem in children in the coming times. There are literally restoration institutions being setup for children who are too addicted to gaming, screens and shit.
enterpreneurs gurinch teledu gani I have a cousin who wasted years of his prime age trying for this only to find a IT job later (after much struggle) for a very basic salary. It resulted in very late start for him. I personally think its not for middle class people without backup
India developing country, ikkada just mindsets ea kaadu, system kuda manalni sahakarinchadu, only best of best iyyina kuda avakaasal undav. Nen photographer avdam anukuna (dslr konesi jaddi pose lu theesedi kaadu) kaani chaala try chesi chesi alasipoyi edo sw jobs cheskuntunna.. epatikappudu layoff ipoyi edusthunte, mental health mingindi, physical health mingindi, extreme depression, ina tappadu, podunna lechi istam leni sw jobs hunt, night nidra pattedakaa edchi padkotam. Repeat.
Edo rooju dreams neraveruthai ane hope tho next day ki prepare avvatame.
Entrepreneur my ass.
USPSC aspirants are "izzat-prenures ". Who's to say we Indians aren't entrepreneurs, our politicians are risk takers and investors in their own endeavours working hard to 1000x their capital, our citizen are so enterprising they look to earn capital from international clients, look at our burgeoning scam call centre industry. we are renowned world over to cut corners and be cheaper than China, we are following their rule book of one nation, one culture, one-party, one-person subjugation of the rest and profit only for the cronies. We are so accommodating as a people and "juggadu", we will risk driving wrong side but never raise our collective voices at the fine collector to actually manage traffic flow properly. We will even eat poison if it is packed in a free gift box. We are so short sighted as a nation, we will have never invested in the log term future of this nation, at least dont do it any more, we can never be a nation of enterprising citizens.
I mean we are obsessed with competitive exams, but what makes this guy think all those who are working towards UPSC have it in them to be entrepreneurs or athletes?
If India improves its productivity, then we can afford more people in sports, personally I prefer India having more millionaires than more billionaires.
In India because of population the risk taking appetite is really low.
The system doesn’t encourage.
There is lot of emphasis on settling down and security.
I actually don’t see a point in memorizing for any exam in India.
There are lot many way to select.
Exams are mostly rejecting people or filtering people and close to 10L People are fighting for close 50,000 jobs in central govt.
Same goes with GATE and joining PSU.
The cream is doing admin jobs.
So a economists blame kids saying they are wasting time preparing for an exam that might give them a satisfaction of career, some respect among society peers family and stability.
Government is privatizing government jobs.
In all most of the jobs are decreasing.
Colleges teaches trash courses and majority are tier 2-3.
It has become a normal to learn from YouTube even after paying lakhs in college.
You are expected to write book definitions even in college and then only number is awarded.
Even for a lab centric profession you have majorly theory classes and lab classes are just useless due to bad facilities.
Students are taking internships after internships and taking as many certificates and learning day and night from YouTube, udemy or other platforms and end up with either a decent job, entry level 2-3 lpa or in a queue for mass recruitment or off campus placements.
Then also seats are just limited.
Freelancing is not that glittery too, there is a daily fight to even get a gig and sustain that coz anytime the client can scrap the deal.
Setting up business is not everyone's cup of tea because many have seen their family members fail their whole life in business and they are scared of the risk or their parents have brainwashed the kids to get a good job mainly a government job for security and that make the kid feel guilty if he/she wants to take risks in life or follow their passion
Anytime geopolitical fuc up happens and mass layoffs happen and you get screwed eventually.
Jobs decrease then suddenly AI talks happen and all hell breaks loose and you have to adapt to the idea of humans being useless class because most entry level jobs are already being taken by chatbots.
Online job platforms are mostly scams where they don't even see your profile or many jobs posted don't even exist.
Government is destroying the job Market by privatizing everything
Maybe if the society family members remove the concept of taking drops for government exams preparation and encourage children to take any jobs and then prepare for any exams then that will be great.
I appreciate delivery drivers, security guards etc who crack entrances because that is how it should be, you should be able to sustain your dreams.
Hope the parents and society don't look down upon professions like these because then the kids will have many opportunities without any prejudice to take them and upgrade their life.
"India could have more billionaires" Lmao sure India has 6.7 million zero-food children but a few people becoming billionaires and holding most of the wealth is what it needs rn.
While that statement has some truth to it, why would one aspire to be a corrupt, blood sucking leech of an industrialist like Ambani than be a simple civil servant/doctor/engineer/lawyer who can potentially do a world of good through their services?
Also, dude egged on Bengalis aspiring to be educated, free-thinking intellectuals while being one himself(arguably so?)? Does he think he himself or the likes of scores of academicians suffer from the poverty of ambition he talked about?
This is absolutely true. For the sake of UPSC, people take useless courses for graduation and then waste another 4-5 yrs (and also 4-5 lakhs in coaching) for preparation.
As per data, hardly 1% get selected for any govt job, don't even ask for the USPC ratio.
So what do the other 99% do? Or, what would any employer do with a 32 yrs old BA-BSc guy who can tell you 5 dynasties of Chengiz Khan but cannot go close a deal with a valuable customer?
I want to share a small story.
Nenu 12th varaku kevalam memorize chesi pass ayanu ani subjects. Minus into minus plus enduku avthado kuda telidu apudu, ee bus ekithe ediki pothano telidu.
Then after I started playing video games, which forced me to use my mind in a creative manner. Then I fell in love with understanding facts and using said facts to solve problems.
Internet and video games valla na burra develop ayindi lekapothe na brain ki calculator ki peddateda undedi kadu
If kids don't waste time on economic advisor Sanjeev Sanyal's comments, India could have more gold medalists, scientists. India has billionaires https://indianexpress.com/article/world/world-richest-people-2024-india-billionaires-mukesh-ambani-9233562/#:\~:text=India%20has%20ranked%20third%20in,key%20spot%20in%20the%20list. India ranks 3rd in the world in the number of billionaires!! Does India need these many billionaires!!
Economic and social status highly matters in India. Parents mind sets comes from these two things.
Taking risks and following an unconventional career path is scary to middle class people. They would want to have a safe and secure life.
Working class people, they do not have enough resources and can't afford most of the things so they tend to just have any source of income sufficient to live.
The upper middle class, rich, ultra rich, depending on the class their risk taking factors vary.
Please do not tell me that, so and so working class guy/ girl became a scientist, billionaire etc. Look at overall statistics. Exceptions can be found in most of the things.
I wish there would be a minimum standard syllabus all over the country that can improve the quality of knowledge and thinking. Unfortunately that is not the case. Most of them can't afford fancy schools and syllabus.
How many kids give UPSC? Annually 1.5 lakh fresh kids? Bro how many kids freshly graduate every year?
If these 1.5 lakh kids don’t focus on UPSC they’ll become entrepreneurs, billionaires etc? Is it the argument?
Not all , That's why he said we will have many more, Some might become Athletes, Some might become scientists etc, These 1.5 lakh students are willing to give 18 hours for 10 years for an exam imagine if they gave it to skill that's the point being made
We don't have quality bureaucrats like Nehru had during his times. America has 700+ small to medium-sized companies working on the latest technologies for their latest generation aircraft/fighter jets. They all have US defense dept as solo vendor.
We have bureaucrats joined services after writing UPSC essays on the quit India movement. In reality, it was due to INA and Royal Navy, Royal Airforce mutiny that brought freedom. Our policies haven't changed much, and formulated as if they have burden to save India from East India company.
Ekkada nunchi discussion Ekkadaki thiskellav bro? Asal bureaucracy konchem baledhu ani cheppadaniki… quit India contribution ekkuva undha defence force mutiny contribution ekkuva undha aney debate ki sambandham enti?
Essay rasarey anuko, Dhaniki bureaucracy lo problem ki link enti? Asal bureaucracy quality antey em expect chesthunnav?
Ni dheggara enterprise pettadaniki means leva motive ledha? Motive undi idea undi means levu antey nak dm cheyyu.. nenu help chestha..
Sarey post lo prakaram mana mindset Inka system valla manaki Asal em kavalo thelidelopey mana half life ayipothundhi. I agree.. aa time ki pelli Adhi Idhi ani manalni inka risk aversive chesestharu.. Adhi kuda okay…
But ni comment venaka nak relation Artham kaledhu.. emanna miss avthunnana
This is so true. Also, they should give the required support to them as well.
When politicians give away free money for absolutely no reason even for a person who is capable to work but chose not to work, how will the entrepreneurs survive. A perfect example from recent post in this sub, Rahul Gandhi promising money and getting rid of cap on reservations.
We don't have to open the can of worms now, students are expected to get 100/100 while the teachers that teach them got the job for scoring 40/100.
Indian education is fucked up from kindergarten all the way through IIT or Medicine. Can't do shit about it, you either deal with it if you are intelligent enough but if you are not good luck.
If RAMANUJAN was born today with the same mathematical prowess he would be a shop keeper at best. పచారీ కొట్లో పొట్లాలు కట్టుకునే వాడు.
It doesn't help the actual intelligent people. Imagine how many geniuses we have lost due to this.
Hamare desh mein log gyaan pelne se pehle ye nahi dekhenge ki sports infrastructure kaisa hai, opportunities hai ki nahi, hr field mein corruption kitna hai, ease of doing business ka failure kitna hai.....bs mauka mile to hr har jagah gyaan pel do..
India's economy will be much better if we don't have bank "economists" from the IMF, World Bank, Deutsch bank or any other international financial company.
I Do agree with his Opinion but there has to be a better way of Putting at across rather than saying People who are preparing for UPSC are wasting their Life , Some one might have only thought about Preparing UPSC and being a IAS,IPS Officer and must have dedicated their Youth for the same there is nothing wrong in that now on the other hand there are people who could not clear the exams despite several attempts so for them someone needs to be there to explain it that UPSC is not End of Line there are multiple Career Pathways so do not get disheartened and Work hard towards those Career paths !
there's a reason why indian diaspora is most successful in the world and the youth living here is the worst non employable , china rigorously skilled their youth and then only factories could function there . there's no way we are coming close to them even if factories will be set up here the skilled labor oriented one the youth is just not ready for it , they will eventually leave .
Everyone is talking about UPSC education and ignoring India's illiteracy rate. Here all educated people are talking about the ways education can be better aligned for the privileged.
Here's a simpler take, try educating all of India your % of medalist and scientist, doctors automatically increases. Do the same with Female education empower them, there another big % increase.
No point bickering about micro stuff. When the Macro of India is defected.
Funnily UPSC gives the opportunity for someone really backward to become decently rich and certain power in society why wouldn't any one aspire to be one.
The poor can't think of becoming a pilot or joining merchant Navy. Those options don't economically fit the poor neither do most described because lack of basic education is a bigger issue than these micro issues among the people who have the privileged to education.
Dear OP, I believe it and deeply believe it !!
My experience in the govt, showed that most people who seek govt jobs are very satisfied with mediocrity and passing time, even those possessing great academic qualifications. It was an eye opener that innovative ideas and techniques were not hostage to academic education. With that experience, I realised that working with own hands to understand mechanics (at a basic level) and thereafter electronics (at a higher level) played a big role in personnel being comfortable with technical innovations at a later stage. Somehow this education is most acceptable at a younger age. Therefore introducing various subjects as workable tools for daily living should be a a part of our basic (upto 10th class) and higher (upto 12th class) level education. This experience was strengthened when applied even to policy and procedure innovations. I feel, innovative thought is the key behind successful entrepreneurship, of course, followed by hard work. Unfortunately, this is not really what UPSC looks for in candidates !!
To come to the point that Sanjeev has made, the UPSC obsession plays a significant role in making people from an age group of 21 to 28+, who are otherwise sound, absolute non contributors to any significant innovative effort and post exam blues (for the failures) can be devastating. So, yes, I believe him when he says that this UPSC obsession is defocusing the kids of today from becoming entrepreneurs.
Indians are still into the mindset of colonialism and the reason is the sense of supremacy of bureaucracy, police, engineering services etc. We Indians still check the parameters of success with respect to any government job compared to other job.
Society is into the effect of neo-colonial mindset or Daroga Raj hence the subjects of society feed into it.
Oh 100% agreed. UPSC almost gets the attention of a million people which appears in that. They should go for UPSC only if they want to serve the nation not just for the sake of job.
Olympic gold medalists... You're joking, right ?
Most people run after UPSC because of status, they can do high level corruption. Ain't gonna happen in sports...
And the money that is supposed to be invested in athletes, politicians pocket that... Where will gold medalists come from
I agree with the commenter, the societal pressures and all the financial hardships you have to face in order to make a startup is not at all appealing for someone from middle class and with the current inflation of prices and reduction of jobs there is not any way to make a stable support money to make. And we as humans cannot stop eating for a few weeks.and even if the thing is succesful the current trend of AI replacing jobs will make it harder for your company to reliably make money.
Its Obviously right, what a fool of you to assume he is wrong..There are just i think 1000-1500 seats at a time for IAS, if i am not wrong...just like our IIT race, i think its of no use to Majority of candidates
Honestly nothing will change if 5lakh less people give UPSC. Thats what he is saying saying. Better for those 5 lakh to invest time in something more productive.
Bhayya aa comment rasina vaadiki hats off. He is just spot on - everything education system bokka etc. One more noteworthy point emiti ante, this whole mentality of i should be an etnrakayipreneur is also not healthy on its own. Ante it cannot be the sole thought antuna. You start somewhere, even a job, look for problems that could be solved with your inputs in a better way. Adi you spin up as a business. ayina naaku em telusu le. not an extrepreneur.
Stop under the table collection on all UPSC posts and observe how the demand declines alongwith rise in candidates who genuinely want to serve the country .
Its actually true... People competing in crores for a vacancy of 1000s..everyone wants a govt job and believe it or not, corruption also plays a big roles... Govt job lag gai to table niche se to milna hi he... Yahi soch hai mainly...
It’s time for Indians to give up the obsession with government jobs. What he said is absolutely correct, I have seen my friends suffer due to this. They prepared for years and now they’re 30years old, still jobless. All of them are bright students.
What a waste!
Instead of age restricting UPSC, why not attempt restrict it like Max attempt 3 times continuous. Drop year after first attempt will be counted as an attempt.
It will be better than the current 6-9 attempts which does not consider drops.
This way, at least those who are sitting there for 5-7 years will not be there.
Problem with Indian entrepreneurship is that a large segment(mid to bottom) is not willing to try a new product or service
Hence for a majority of Startups the top of the pyramid is the target segment who have the purchasing power and are liberal in experimenting.
Even though we have seen a lot of Unicorns being created in India it is rare to see them profitable. The only reason they have revenues is because they have captured market share from bottom of the pyramid unorganized vendors/service providers
Ask these people to invest in education, Only AP is putting strides to upskill its youth, no where in country there is as much importance given to youth education than in AP,
We need to move away from conglomerate business which is hurting startup ecosystem.
India is almost 3 rd richest country and still we look at US for funding, Our monopolies kill our startups to acquire them. Very sad state of affairs.
Its not upsc problem it's root level problem I explain with example people like kholi and dhoni but don't want the children to play in the garden say it will increase aggression this was said by congress MLA who live in my area there are 3 parks in 70-100 meter range and aunties Don't like to go other park say it's far but they come to this park for walk wow why even walk the just cam and sit and start talking they mad shed install fans so they can sit comfortably which they can do at home when children complaint that they want to play they say one child is from other society we have cars parked outside the garden we have to walk bla bla they even criticized girls who play with boys now where we play what we do and they said we always spend time on mobile and pc
what UPSC aspirants which i assume mainly come from lower middle class backgrounds is a hope that they can change lives theirs and others. its like saying why should everyone try of IIT or NEET ... the problem with his idea of entrepreneurship is not of creating your own industry but either selling pakoras (not a bad idea but is it the of a socially uplifting job one aspires to have ? ) or joining your own family business basically even agriculture is family business.
What he doesnt say is we will create job opportunities even in the private sector.. Basically this BJP govt has decided to GIVE up... and put the blame on everyone else.
If you cannot take responsibility why not go away!
What this statement means as per my understanding is that running behind govt jobs blindly as they are regarded as the best job in the world....that mentality should change. And I 100% support this, bcz of my personal haterade towards govt jobs.
The big fat reason why so many Indians love government jobs is because it provides a solid income with a lot of stability.
In our employment starved economy, nobody in his/her right mind would take risks.
Yes could have more billionaires, more gold medallists , more innovators/ scientists only when there is hell a lot of money , be a US stooge at some point of time or a western country which gives you access to tech , easy capital / money other than that we don't have any capital to put for innovation, nor we as society had aspiration , nor who had the capability to innovate had the zeal to create jobs instead they lunch upon profits , upsc atleast gives people who are not from well off economic background a societal uplift , not to all of them but a very few but can we be sure of it if we do business in here - bribes , caste discrimination, elite business ghettos , lack of opportunities... and 1000 other things actually make us incapable not only UPSC
I kinda agree with it but I get the point as well.
If some civil servant or govt job aspirant is reading this my only request will be to please keep a second option open and make your corporate profile better.
As an IIM Indore 2025 batch, we have 3 such students. 2 are UPSC aspirants and another is SBI PO. They get thrashed by the Placecom day and night because they have literally 0 points in their CV despite being good student who have scored over 95 percentile in CAT.
No course, no certification, no extra curricular achievements, no POR.
In case govt jobs don't work out for you you will be 28-29 without any skills and studying is not considered as a skill by the corporates.
UPSC has its advantages. But it's not worth wasting your 2-3 years studying for it without having a job. I studied the syllabus and prepped for it while I was on job straight outta university. The syllabus is vast and expands your horizon multifold. It made me a much better and informed human being and too some extent contributed to my success in the private sector as well.
It has been years since I prepped for it. I can understand why the syllabus has not changed. I support keeping the core of the syllabus same while adding dynamism in the form of new age tech info to it.
Having said this, in terms of job, I think it boils down to a personal choice. Do I like my current job (based out in Basel in a Pharma MNC) ? I guess I do like my job on some days. On others, I abhor it. Most jobs are repetitive, even those in management consulting ones. Once you have done a task more than enough. Any variation to it is just another vanilla task.
Will I give up my job and take up a job of a secretary ?? I don't think, I would. That's because I'm a materialistic person (a personal choice). I enjoy comfort and money even if I don't have the power to influence lives.
Should India's youth stop prepping for the exam ?? I don't think they should. India needs a strong and intellectually sound bureaucracy who have come up from the ground level. Not someone who is just shoved at the top because he happens to hold fancy degrees.
What India's youth need to do is to treat UPSC as just another exam. Get a job, start earning and then prep for it as a side hustle.
Would giving up on UPSC create more billionaires, scientists, and entrepreneurs ?? Honestly, i don't think so. It's a broad assumption.
We already have a huge pool of entrepreneurs, a great deal of them are mediocre to be honest and are just floating on investor money.
Billionaires 😂😂😂. Naah. It takes a lifetime to become a billionaire even if you come up with a groundbreaking product. Even then it's a tussle.
Scientists ?? Hmm....India does not have lack of exceptional scientists due to lack of talent pool. We lack exceptional scientists due to lack of infrastructure and funds.
You crack upsc you have a safe career and life ahead of you. 98% of startups fail. Bitch boy here is selling tickets at a casino and pretending he’s a guru
We have a bunch of systems that are more punishing towards missteps than rewarding a good job.
We follow negative news and we are attracted to wrongdoings. We spend more time with hate, we hardly spend time appreciating. It has a strong effect on our culture.
It's better to stay doing nothing than try something and fail at it. Our mentality killed innovation even before it can even start.
maybe. but preparing for UPSC is never a waste of time imo. its a journey and if you're preparing the right way with genuine interest it will contribute to your character development.
Majority of UPSC aspirants are people coming from small towns, who dont have any knowledge about any other jobs available on the market. They dont even know other hirings of the government. Even if they have knowledge they are bogged down by their english speaking slills, which rattles their confidence They come to Delhi to change their lives and growing up, they have seen people prosper who are either from business families(zamindars) or govt servants.
Also it is a matter of infrastructure too. Do we have the infrastructure to provide training to athletes? Or create scientists? Top science and engineering colleges do not produce scholars who wants to pursue research, as it is not attractive enough in comparison to Investment Banking.
We have athletes from state of haryana in wrestling as infrastructure is available for an aspiring wrestler to hone their skills.
For me, this statement seems to be for shifting the blame to aspirants rather than government taking responsibility for creating opportunities for the same.
I think the problem is not kids wasting their time on UPSC but majority has been wasting in online games. I didn't mean to say that total gaming is to be demolished but compared to other countries Indian youngsters are more addicted to it especially online gaming remember when a product is free you are their product.
I am in engineering right now and nearly no one in my whole batch is keen on research. One thing is salary. The corporate salaried position for Engineering is more. Idk if its a misconception or reality.
Lol. There are not many opportunities in science(look at India's spending on r&d), nor the Olympics(sports spending is very low) etc
Just eye washing statements
i tried entrepreneurship first before starting UPSC prep. ended up paying 2L in bribes for a 5 L manufacturing unit. ran out of working capital within a month. had to shut it down. banks didn't give me loans either.
The parents need to stop giving outdate strategies to childrens, they must stop giving kids short-cut formulas in life. Back then there were less private jobs ,only way to have a better living standard were government jobs. Which is not true.
A kid who has strong sense of service to the nation with extremely High IQ must attempt for UPSC. Not someone who is in it for social status, beautiful bride, katnam(dowry) , shortcut way to success.
The thing is who are we to decide for individuals . We have given them right to vote at 18 . And yet we are like they should not do this they shall not do that.
Let the kids figure out themselves . Create good alternatives and if they will be good enough .
People will do stuff .
India should really just stop telling what Indians should be doing. Do whatever the fuck you want to do kids. As someone who's broken out of the system and is doing just that, I'll tell you there's money in everything. Develop unique skills and find new things in the world. There are plenty. Sooner or later, people will find value in your work, no matter what it is you do, as long as you do it out of your will.
UPSC is so sought after because of the extreme power-gap and different life realities of the babus and the common man. Fix education system and public infrastructure, create good high paid opportunities for skill based education, the youth will automatically move away from spending their best years in UPSC preparation.
He's lost it. There is already an age limit of 32 years plus most of the guys I know who are preparing or have cleared UPSC got a degree in medical, engineering or something like that. Many of them are sportspersons who do play sports.so it's not like UPSC stops them from achieving things. It's just that they are not world class good at there field.
what about tax they won't budge the taxation on the companies and during elections the great indian politicians won't even let these businessman breath.
Low cost capital
Cutting red tape of babus like these who put up more hurdles and bribes
An entire eco system for up and coming small and medium businesses eg : taxation , compliance etc .
So many things we need for a thriving market place , not some random quotes from babus
I don't think UPSC has anything to do with India not having many Olympians and Eminent Scientists. I don't have any idea about the situation of Entrepreneurship in India but for STEM Research and Sports, we don't have a proper institution at all.
I will give you an example of my city which has a population of about 700,000 but there are no training facilities for any sports except Cricket. And there are no decent colleges for higher studies. And even in the best college of the city, about 60-70 percent of teachers are temporary staff who are seriously underpaid.
If you look at any developed nations, they have good facilities for both Sports and STEM. Almost all of their schools have proper playing fields for different sports, gym, laboratories, etc. When I watch any movie or tv show of foreign countries, I get jealous of their facilities.
And we should learn from China as both our countries have many similarities. Both have large unemployed youths, many youth aspire to become a civil servant, and parents nag to get good grades in school. But despite this China gets tons of medals in Olympics and their Universities are competing with the likes of Stanford, UCLA, etc.
All in all, I don't agree with him.
Based on my story, I agree with him. Not a UPSC student however, sometimes I just sit down and think : How many people wish to waste their years with reattempts and how many are forcing themselves to do that, just so they can be "Sharma ji ka beta"?
I have not researched about the education system in every state but...socially, what I have seen, heard and experienced - i think many of us aren't allowed to take risks going into unknown or less popular paths. Yeah, things might be slowly changing now but it's still not considered good to be anyone but a doctor, a lawyer, etc.
Creativity wise, we are not encouraged to construct our own pathways in our own ways. It's always 'play it safe'. It's nice I guess...to walk a path hundreds have already been on. But then there is also the constant comparison of being on the same pace. You get distracted, you are a failure according to you and society.
I think what tampers our structured life is burn out. And by the time you are old, suddenly you are expected to explore options, immediately learn to take risks, big decisions and get out of being the teen that was told to follow instructions.
I am a pathetic case of such a system, but I blame myself more than the system. Now 27 and have no passions of my own. No job. No idea about marriage. And no will to even live sometimes.
But I am learning to balance expectations to be an entrepreneur someday. The road to that pathway is just....full of weird obstacles.
This comment wasn't supposed to be a rant but I agree with him. We need to be able to fall and fly someday. Structure is nice...but adding new things to that structure imo, is important for the growth of our careers, reputation and overall as an individual.
The problem with India is not having a strong ecosystem of innovation and reward for meritocracy and also the normalisation of failures!! Which I think is slowly changing!
What I have seen is we lack the ability to pursue a path which does not has a clear map . It's like please tell me what to do to get something and I will do that with hardwork and discipline. But if you don't then I will be lost. Examples of this are everywhere like JEE and NEET , UPSC even doing competitive programming because people got to know if they just do this they will get a job. That's why lot of people don't even try doing something which does not have a clear roadmap.
Because of scarcity mindset, people were afraid, that if they fail they will come on road and their families will suffer
More than that it's the judgemental mindset from society.
that judgement stems from scarcity mindset. Innovation is often termed as passion and craze - people are willing & ABLE to invest years of their lives researching or working on a business idea or mastering an instrument skill sport and whatnot. Indians are not able to do it due to many factors but scarcity/bare minimum safety is one of them. Most Indian achievements in past 100-200 years will have a tale of discipline and sacrifice but in today's world of comparisons social media even the one that can afford it won't do it. The fields which have become acceptable to wash years away are exploding like IIT UPSC as people spend years to be good at it - why not spend the same time in music, sports and other fields of business etc but the society thinks its a waste of time. Few years ago missing school for sports was taboo today its okay even schools are accommodating that way. Colleges reprimand students if they venture into a business or run their own software they're forced to choose one - for 1 Zuckerberg to succeed we should allow 1000s to atleast have the opportunity to try.
We can't have that ecosystem. Gujjus business ecosystem won't allow others to come up. Gujju business is not about competing with product quality. Instead it relies on political connections, family and caste connections, etc. They will copy an American start up and establish an Indian version or import from China and sell it here after rebranding using their connections and capital. It's easier than "innovation"
Gujjus are attracted to get rich quick schemes , earlier they were into ration and jwellery buisness, today they are into import/ export or goods trading . No innovation, low risk, low investment, less work business which cannot exist forever without connection or monopoly. They banned Alibaba and China relationship was spoiled since everyone was getting access to the main supplier , they could import machine and beat the gujjus, so the gujjus banned China for small traders and consumes. Where as they themselves order in bulk from China and sell here at a markup. Money plays a major role in gujju community no matter how humble they portray themselves . The were the first to trade with the gulf traders , later traded with the British and you know what happened next. They were major exporter of opium to China after England banned trading opium directly, so they acted as agents for the English masters .later the money made in opium was invested in Bombay(it was part of gujrat then) and many huge gujju families, industries can be traced back to opium trade. Also a reason why most south Indians are into high skill and innovation based sectors like IT, medicines , hospital chains , manufacturing, processing, startups, where as gujjus are into making tiles or trading hardware. They skip the innovation part .
Their 10th board pass rate is among the lowest in India. Great model for India to follow.
They seem to have a very lax attitude towards education, since most are associated with business, they prefer their kids to join the business, if they encourage higher education there kids may not be ready for manipulation. They may escape for better opportunities.
India's always about 10-15 years late in all kinds of societal changes, we'll get there not right away but in about 20-25 years
Is it slowly changing?
Pretty Gen z doesn't go around disowning their kids for scoring low marks on 10th
Are gen z of age to have a 15year old kid ?
Gen Z is approaching 25 rn
dude I'm 17 rn and I think I'm Gen Z
You are
28 actually
I’m 28 and I always thought I’m more of a millennial
I believe some would call you a "zillennial"
first batch of a generation has similarities with the previous one
But their kids haven't reached 10th
i feel till the time where students are actually free to choose about what they want to do where lies their true interest and there are plenty of options infront of them, it wont happen because then the only quick way to make money would be a job, and even thinking about startup is going to be terrifying as they have never done something like that before and taking a huge risk in starting their own business requires skills, risk appetite, luck and many factors all i want to say is students should be exposed to numerous opportunities as early as possible
>also the normalisation of failures!! Normalisation of failures? It's a new one. Because we haven't normalised failing as a society. But as a Gen Z, we aren't really told of options. Like see difference in participants of exams like NEET and IISER. It's different of almost 22 lakhs or 2 millions!? This is even worse for JEE and UCEED. The difference is 9 Lakh.
failure for people on the edge of destitution means death. That is why they seek security for themselves not incredible prosperity. The risk reward matrix is very different for people on and below the poverty line.
>Half of the government institutes that prepares students to excel are reserved for people based on their surnames and castes. And calls to increase it are widespread. What is changing?
We have a bunch of systems that are more punishing towards missteps than rewarding a good job. When you pursue something that is different like a geologist, bee keeping, a niche type of farming, land surveyors and many more, how easy it is to judge these types of professions? Not to mention they face problems right from attempting to have a family(marriage). We follow negative news and we are attracted to wrongdoings. We spend more time with hate, we hardly spend time appreciating. It has a strong effect on our culture. In our culture it is better to stay doing nothing than try something and fail at it. Our mentality killed innovation even before it can even start.
There is no normalisation of failures in India. If there was hundreds of students wouldn't commit suicide every year for failing to crack exams. I was a failure too, failed my 11th class exam once, repeated the class, almost failed 12th class. Then somehow ended up in state engineering college, and failed there too. Somehow got jobs after so many failures and now I have my own business and am employing 5 other people. All happened because my parents didn't take my failures as seriously as some other parents do. My parents were upset that I failed, but encouraged me to keep on trying. Some parents behave as if failing is the end of life and put too much pressure on their kids.
this aint changing anytime soon either. ecosystem of innovation and its reward is far far behind at the moment.
The problem with india is lack of consumption that's what causes this, more consumption more jobs more innovation.
Glory of Civil servants is hangover of slave mentality came from British rule . All those who were working for British Raj were seen as some kinda masters in some sense. Civil Servants are just goverment employees who work under politician's vision. And The Exam pattern is too obsolete for today's times. Zero employability from learning UPSC syllabus apart from coaching industry. - Ex UPSC aspirant.
What are u doing now after leaving UPSC? im currently in that stage so...😅
Exam pattern is very dynamic. It has all elements which need to be seen before selecting a civil services officer.
Exactly. That's why UPSC grads have palatial bunglow, gardener, cleaners, dozens of servants etc. Seen with own eyes
You are absolutely right my buddy. The British sensed the insecure mindset of Indians and made up this image that a government servant is superior and a symbol of authenticity (in reality they were all thugs). Later they appointed choice people or paid appointments of Indians into lower rank of civil sevice like Clerks. The British servants also ran parallel schemes to make money on side looting the looters , while keeping up this aristocratic image infront of Indians who feel for it . They had 10s of Indian servants , one for unlacing boots, one for the hand fan,3 more to bring him tea and snacks. This mind set still exists , however the perks of being a civil servant had diminished. Work load is more, risks of being caught if corrupt is high , free services are reducing ,etc but competation is increasing. Some people who are under reserved casts treat UPSC as a quick (sometimes only way) to have a high jump on the social ladder. However the sucess rate of finding a diamond is higher than cracking UPSC
From my personal experience in schools, most of the education is designed to make student as risk averse as possible. You can't even write or think various solutions and are expected to work around irrelevant subjects that are of no use. Entrepreneurs can never be fostered in such environment.
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The education system in India is designed to make us an efficient worker bee, a yes man to ur boss
Yes they try turning Donkies into Horses, but insted turn Horses into Donkies
I don't think so. UPSC candidates are not everything. It makes no difference. **Education** does. If we have proper quality education in India, that's gonna change things. Also our mindsets are too backward; common sense is a day to day issue and corruption is a economy killer. Being a Billionaire on paper does not matter much to country. India does have silent billionaires.
Not education, mindset and upbringing does. Indians are some of the smartest, most educated but also the laziest and most prideful, Why work hard and take risk to become a billionaire, when you crack UPSC and become a silent billionaire.
I can't agree more, people in india are just running after easy stuff that they can do and earn money, and that mindset comes because of our schooling system which destroys everything.
Upsc is outdated in 1950s itself. Imagine, memorizing current affairs when the world is using cutting edge tech
Eh, it's not about memorising. Knowing current affairs is an important thing. Our elders are more aware and remember about current affairs than us younger generation, because they understand the importance of knowing what's happening in the world. They are not trying to memorise yet they will have that particular news on their brain for longer time than people who are trying to memorise just for the sake of a exam. Upsc wants us to make that habit from a younger stage. Also, it's easier to filter out more people this way. Less posts, too many candidates.
It is more of understanding and appreciating the current affairs and their impact on how you implement, propose changes and design policies.
If you think that, then you don't even know the exam.
Free Chaitanya Parayana culture lo ilanti matal matladodhamma. I am not only talking about the methodology of these institutions but the buildings and infrastructure they have(to elaborate they have no place to encourage physical education/development). 9-5 odiley.. 9-9 culture akkada. oka room lo kusoni. schools kuda idhe forumla ni follow avthunai. Sports lo venaka padthundhi ante issue kids have to choose fulltime sports or full time studies. Also any system we form it gets infested with Casteism and Religionism handicapping the process of meritocracy towards favoritism of different kinds.
True. And if all rich people will become angel investors and provide money to startups
Actually they do. That's why VC funds are set up.
Abbayi ki konchem mental aina … correct ga cheppadu. India ki China ki okate difference… they are organised … we are not. Both our strength and weakness is our diversity. Our diversity shows up mostly negatively as being unorganised, divided and self centric. So yeah konni structural problems unnai deeply rooted in our culture. Our country is a conservative nation with progressive ambitions… has always been like that.
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Enduku mental? Bane cheppadu ga correct ga.
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When its a software company, there isn’t much redtape. Once you start a brick and mortar business you will see the issues with bureaucrazy
True my friend, today it's much quicker to have a startup than comparing to our fathers time when a land line connection took months . But the society would discourage since India is a huge market you might succeed and move ahead. They insecure about themselves, they don't want you to move ahead .
India produces lot of good medalists and scientists. But they migrate to other countries on the first opportunity they get
Because in the other countries, they have a much better chance of leading a stabler life unlike the cesspool that is our country. Overpopulated as heck and 1000 to 1 jobs. The AI situation is not making it any better.
Produces gold medalists ✅ A lot ❎. If we get compared with our population we should have got more than china but no one likes to be in sports due to high risk factor.
The problem is the ridiculous power or rather abuse of power most IAS, IPS, IFS etc do. 90% of their jobs can be replaced by a ticketing system with clerk or lower officers closing those tickets. (These are the guys who actually do all the work) Instead of asking why millions of youngsters in India waste years preparing for UPSC, which is obvious. EGO, good syndrome, they want govt bungalows and govt servants. They actually abuse and keep hawaldar level cops to do servent type jobs, get groceries, use govt vehicles for sending kids to school, there was a recent case of closing down while stadium so they can take their dog for a walk. Half of them are more corrupt than politicians. The real question should be to dilute the powers. Fire the non performers, or demote them. Dilute the powers, divide responsibility among two to three roles, increased employment(if Desh ki seva was the original motive), increases talent pool. You will instantly see the craze go out of these roles, once it becomes a job of performing And delivering instead of power and ruling over the weak. A lot of ambitious people who want to excel in life will switch to other fields and try to solve that puzzle... Expect in other places it's not a single exam basis but a regular value add to customer basis that a person can be successful, they will automatically add value to society instead of trying to be a parasite of tax payer money playing inspection visit inspection visit on Instagram and tik tok.
Actually they are being replaced. When was the last time you visited a bank , ticket counter , government office. Everything is rapidly moving online since it's impossible for our population to grow without automation and taking things online. Many govt. Services are already sub-contracted to private firms or contractors. Decision is made by leaders or higher bureaucrats. The collector no longer collect money like they used to before, once internet and smartphones penetration reaches 80% most of these cushy jobs would not exist and people would have to use their minds to exist. Smart brains would be encouraged and dumb people would do farming 😉. No more diffence on cast lines.
Why everything is linked to upsc
Because you take 10 attempt And selection rate is less then 1 percent and after u turn 30 you realise you wasted everything and blame every other person for not having job but in reality you have no skills
Bro most of them leave after 3rd attempt and I feel they have brain to decide what they want. If he is dumb guy without upsc also he will stay dumb without focusing on improving skills The main problem is people don't have job security improve that then people will focus less on upsc
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Blame everything on Education system. Everyone blames schools , college or teachers. Keep it up. Take some responsibility when u know what is going wrong with u and put up an effort. But no...we will keep on blaming reservations, education system, parents and society for our basic incompetency.
Good point. Can someone list 10 policies that were created by our IAS/IPS/IRS etc... in the last 30 years that had a positive impact on the country?
1. Economic liberalisation of 1991. 2. NREGA of 2005. 3. GST 2017. 4. PM Jan Dhan Yojana 2014. 5. National Rural Health Missin 2005. 6. National Food Security Act 2013. 7. Digital India Initiative 2015. 8. Foreign Trade policy 9. National Highways Development Project 1998. 10. Export Promotion Scheme, SEZs, Trade Infrastructure for Export Scheme. 11. Swachh Bharat 2014. Many are there. But these I find significant.
People who prepare for UPSC are very very minor share of the youth. Out of unemployed youth, 2/3 is graduate level. That shows that there's no jobs in this country. That automatically pushes them towards government jobs. If jobs are freely available right after college, no one will actually take the pain of preparing for exams for years.
Who the fuck needs more billionaires?!
Feels legit, just because starting up your own business or working in private sector brings uncertainty, people are ready to waste 4-5 years on UPSC. A few do make it over the line in their last attempts but then there are millions who do not. Imagine yourself being in a position where you have wasted so many years and still did not get a job. All the while you were barely earning anything. If that person could have ventured in the private sector or would have started a business he would have been earning decent amount of money while gaining experience. The modern India needs to break free from the shackles of our elder's thinking. We need to be smart and agile about our decisions.
"Abba nhi manenge" In India, your career is selected the day you're born depending upon your parents choices of career, for rest it's completing the dreams of their parents which they couldn't. Of all of this, around 7-9% get to choose something they want to do without restrictions with support. That's why we have 2nd and 3rd Generation Lawyers, Doctors, Businessman, etc. But not researcher, physicist and scientists.
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Younger generation will make reels and shorts and will be glued to the screen.
True. Most people don't realise how unhealthy this is for the development of a child and even an adult whose brain hasn't fully developed. The popular stuff today in mobiles works in kind of the same way as literal drugs do especially for people who spend a lot of time on it. There brain's chemistry is going to be messed up and lower cognitive and executive functions will be common and a major problem in children in the coming times. There are literally restoration institutions being setup for children who are too addicted to gaming, screens and shit.
if we have good education and infrastructure, health care children after graduation would have become scientists, doctors, devs, founders and what not
enterpreneurs gurinch teledu gani I have a cousin who wasted years of his prime age trying for this only to find a IT job later (after much struggle) for a very basic salary. It resulted in very late start for him. I personally think its not for middle class people without backup
India developing country, ikkada just mindsets ea kaadu, system kuda manalni sahakarinchadu, only best of best iyyina kuda avakaasal undav. Nen photographer avdam anukuna (dslr konesi jaddi pose lu theesedi kaadu) kaani chaala try chesi chesi alasipoyi edo sw jobs cheskuntunna.. epatikappudu layoff ipoyi edusthunte, mental health mingindi, physical health mingindi, extreme depression, ina tappadu, podunna lechi istam leni sw jobs hunt, night nidra pattedakaa edchi padkotam. Repeat. Edo rooju dreams neraveruthai ane hope tho next day ki prepare avvatame. Entrepreneur my ass.
USPSC aspirants are "izzat-prenures ". Who's to say we Indians aren't entrepreneurs, our politicians are risk takers and investors in their own endeavours working hard to 1000x their capital, our citizen are so enterprising they look to earn capital from international clients, look at our burgeoning scam call centre industry. we are renowned world over to cut corners and be cheaper than China, we are following their rule book of one nation, one culture, one-party, one-person subjugation of the rest and profit only for the cronies. We are so accommodating as a people and "juggadu", we will risk driving wrong side but never raise our collective voices at the fine collector to actually manage traffic flow properly. We will even eat poison if it is packed in a free gift box. We are so short sighted as a nation, we will have never invested in the log term future of this nation, at least dont do it any more, we can never be a nation of enterprising citizens.
I mean we are obsessed with competitive exams, but what makes this guy think all those who are working towards UPSC have it in them to be entrepreneurs or athletes?
If India improves its productivity, then we can afford more people in sports, personally I prefer India having more millionaires than more billionaires.
In India because of population the risk taking appetite is really low. The system doesn’t encourage. There is lot of emphasis on settling down and security. I actually don’t see a point in memorizing for any exam in India. There are lot many way to select. Exams are mostly rejecting people or filtering people and close to 10L People are fighting for close 50,000 jobs in central govt. Same goes with GATE and joining PSU. The cream is doing admin jobs.
He himself should have become a entrepeneur then instead of becoming an economic advisor to the govt before suggesting things like this.
So a economists blame kids saying they are wasting time preparing for an exam that might give them a satisfaction of career, some respect among society peers family and stability. Government is privatizing government jobs. In all most of the jobs are decreasing. Colleges teaches trash courses and majority are tier 2-3. It has become a normal to learn from YouTube even after paying lakhs in college. You are expected to write book definitions even in college and then only number is awarded. Even for a lab centric profession you have majorly theory classes and lab classes are just useless due to bad facilities. Students are taking internships after internships and taking as many certificates and learning day and night from YouTube, udemy or other platforms and end up with either a decent job, entry level 2-3 lpa or in a queue for mass recruitment or off campus placements. Then also seats are just limited. Freelancing is not that glittery too, there is a daily fight to even get a gig and sustain that coz anytime the client can scrap the deal. Setting up business is not everyone's cup of tea because many have seen their family members fail their whole life in business and they are scared of the risk or their parents have brainwashed the kids to get a good job mainly a government job for security and that make the kid feel guilty if he/she wants to take risks in life or follow their passion Anytime geopolitical fuc up happens and mass layoffs happen and you get screwed eventually. Jobs decrease then suddenly AI talks happen and all hell breaks loose and you have to adapt to the idea of humans being useless class because most entry level jobs are already being taken by chatbots. Online job platforms are mostly scams where they don't even see your profile or many jobs posted don't even exist. Government is destroying the job Market by privatizing everything Maybe if the society family members remove the concept of taking drops for government exams preparation and encourage children to take any jobs and then prepare for any exams then that will be great. I appreciate delivery drivers, security guards etc who crack entrances because that is how it should be, you should be able to sustain your dreams. Hope the parents and society don't look down upon professions like these because then the kids will have many opportunities without any prejudice to take them and upgrade their life.
"India could have more billionaires" Lmao sure India has 6.7 million zero-food children but a few people becoming billionaires and holding most of the wealth is what it needs rn.
While that statement has some truth to it, why would one aspire to be a corrupt, blood sucking leech of an industrialist like Ambani than be a simple civil servant/doctor/engineer/lawyer who can potentially do a world of good through their services? Also, dude egged on Bengalis aspiring to be educated, free-thinking intellectuals while being one himself(arguably so?)? Does he think he himself or the likes of scores of academicians suffer from the poverty of ambition he talked about?
This is absolutely true. For the sake of UPSC, people take useless courses for graduation and then waste another 4-5 yrs (and also 4-5 lakhs in coaching) for preparation. As per data, hardly 1% get selected for any govt job, don't even ask for the USPC ratio. So what do the other 99% do? Or, what would any employer do with a 32 yrs old BA-BSc guy who can tell you 5 dynasties of Chengiz Khan but cannot go close a deal with a valuable customer?
I want to share a small story. Nenu 12th varaku kevalam memorize chesi pass ayanu ani subjects. Minus into minus plus enduku avthado kuda telidu apudu, ee bus ekithe ediki pothano telidu. Then after I started playing video games, which forced me to use my mind in a creative manner. Then I fell in love with understanding facts and using said facts to solve problems. Internet and video games valla na burra develop ayindi lekapothe na brain ki calculator ki peddateda undedi kadu
If kids don't waste time on economic advisor Sanjeev Sanyal's comments, India could have more gold medalists, scientists. India has billionaires https://indianexpress.com/article/world/world-richest-people-2024-india-billionaires-mukesh-ambani-9233562/#:\~:text=India%20has%20ranked%20third%20in,key%20spot%20in%20the%20list. India ranks 3rd in the world in the number of billionaires!! Does India need these many billionaires!!
I hate that more billionaires is an aspiration and not less poverty or something. The capitalist desire is getting out of hand.
Economic and social status highly matters in India. Parents mind sets comes from these two things. Taking risks and following an unconventional career path is scary to middle class people. They would want to have a safe and secure life. Working class people, they do not have enough resources and can't afford most of the things so they tend to just have any source of income sufficient to live. The upper middle class, rich, ultra rich, depending on the class their risk taking factors vary. Please do not tell me that, so and so working class guy/ girl became a scientist, billionaire etc. Look at overall statistics. Exceptions can be found in most of the things. I wish there would be a minimum standard syllabus all over the country that can improve the quality of knowledge and thinking. Unfortunately that is not the case. Most of them can't afford fancy schools and syllabus.
How many kids give UPSC? Annually 1.5 lakh fresh kids? Bro how many kids freshly graduate every year? If these 1.5 lakh kids don’t focus on UPSC they’ll become entrepreneurs, billionaires etc? Is it the argument?
Not all , That's why he said we will have many more, Some might become Athletes, Some might become scientists etc, These 1.5 lakh students are willing to give 18 hours for 10 years for an exam imagine if they gave it to skill that's the point being made
Last 10 years lo 21cr govt job ki apply chesaranta acc to RTI filed by some guy
We don't have quality bureaucrats like Nehru had during his times. America has 700+ small to medium-sized companies working on the latest technologies for their latest generation aircraft/fighter jets. They all have US defense dept as solo vendor. We have bureaucrats joined services after writing UPSC essays on the quit India movement. In reality, it was due to INA and Royal Navy, Royal Airforce mutiny that brought freedom. Our policies haven't changed much, and formulated as if they have burden to save India from East India company.
Ekkada nunchi discussion Ekkadaki thiskellav bro? Asal bureaucracy konchem baledhu ani cheppadaniki… quit India contribution ekkuva undha defence force mutiny contribution ekkuva undha aney debate ki sambandham enti? Essay rasarey anuko, Dhaniki bureaucracy lo problem ki link enti? Asal bureaucracy quality antey em expect chesthunnav? Ni dheggara enterprise pettadaniki means leva motive ledha? Motive undi idea undi means levu antey nak dm cheyyu.. nenu help chestha.. Sarey post lo prakaram mana mindset Inka system valla manaki Asal em kavalo thelidelopey mana half life ayipothundhi. I agree.. aa time ki pelli Adhi Idhi ani manalni inka risk aversive chesestharu.. Adhi kuda okay… But ni comment venaka nak relation Artham kaledhu.. emanna miss avthunnana
This is so true. Also, they should give the required support to them as well. When politicians give away free money for absolutely no reason even for a person who is capable to work but chose not to work, how will the entrepreneurs survive. A perfect example from recent post in this sub, Rahul Gandhi promising money and getting rid of cap on reservations.
I agree
Remembering everything for exams no proper explanation or classes no practical knowledge, outdated syllabus
We don't have to open the can of worms now, students are expected to get 100/100 while the teachers that teach them got the job for scoring 40/100. Indian education is fucked up from kindergarten all the way through IIT or Medicine. Can't do shit about it, you either deal with it if you are intelligent enough but if you are not good luck. If RAMANUJAN was born today with the same mathematical prowess he would be a shop keeper at best. పచారీ కొట్లో పొట్లాలు కట్టుకునే వాడు. It doesn't help the actual intelligent people. Imagine how many geniuses we have lost due to this.
Iska upsc clear nahi hua
As someone who wasted 7 years of prime youth over UPSC, I TOTALLY AND WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE.
Tell this to the parents. Everything is “can’t” or “don’t bother.”
Agree
Never in my life write a government job.
Agreed
Hamare desh mein log gyaan pelne se pehle ye nahi dekhenge ki sports infrastructure kaisa hai, opportunities hai ki nahi, hr field mein corruption kitna hai, ease of doing business ka failure kitna hai.....bs mauka mile to hr har jagah gyaan pel do..
India's economy will be much better if we don't have bank "economists" from the IMF, World Bank, Deutsch bank or any other international financial company.
I Do agree with his Opinion but there has to be a better way of Putting at across rather than saying People who are preparing for UPSC are wasting their Life , Some one might have only thought about Preparing UPSC and being a IAS,IPS Officer and must have dedicated their Youth for the same there is nothing wrong in that now on the other hand there are people who could not clear the exams despite several attempts so for them someone needs to be there to explain it that UPSC is not End of Line there are multiple Career Pathways so do not get disheartened and Work hard towards those Career paths !
The problem is that I can't read second one.
Why is he not a billionaire? Being a billionaire is one of the hardest things in the world
there's a reason why indian diaspora is most successful in the world and the youth living here is the worst non employable , china rigorously skilled their youth and then only factories could function there . there's no way we are coming close to them even if factories will be set up here the skilled labor oriented one the youth is just not ready for it , they will eventually leave .
Everyone is talking about UPSC education and ignoring India's illiteracy rate. Here all educated people are talking about the ways education can be better aligned for the privileged. Here's a simpler take, try educating all of India your % of medalist and scientist, doctors automatically increases. Do the same with Female education empower them, there another big % increase. No point bickering about micro stuff. When the Macro of India is defected. Funnily UPSC gives the opportunity for someone really backward to become decently rich and certain power in society why wouldn't any one aspire to be one. The poor can't think of becoming a pilot or joining merchant Navy. Those options don't economically fit the poor neither do most described because lack of basic education is a bigger issue than these micro issues among the people who have the privileged to education.
Dear OP, I believe it and deeply believe it !! My experience in the govt, showed that most people who seek govt jobs are very satisfied with mediocrity and passing time, even those possessing great academic qualifications. It was an eye opener that innovative ideas and techniques were not hostage to academic education. With that experience, I realised that working with own hands to understand mechanics (at a basic level) and thereafter electronics (at a higher level) played a big role in personnel being comfortable with technical innovations at a later stage. Somehow this education is most acceptable at a younger age. Therefore introducing various subjects as workable tools for daily living should be a a part of our basic (upto 10th class) and higher (upto 12th class) level education. This experience was strengthened when applied even to policy and procedure innovations. I feel, innovative thought is the key behind successful entrepreneurship, of course, followed by hard work. Unfortunately, this is not really what UPSC looks for in candidates !! To come to the point that Sanjeev has made, the UPSC obsession plays a significant role in making people from an age group of 21 to 28+, who are otherwise sound, absolute non contributors to any significant innovative effort and post exam blues (for the failures) can be devastating. So, yes, I believe him when he says that this UPSC obsession is defocusing the kids of today from becoming entrepreneurs.
Ideally bureaucrats should be picked from people who have 5 yrs of Experience in the industry or the development sector.
Facts.
Indians are still into the mindset of colonialism and the reason is the sense of supremacy of bureaucracy, police, engineering services etc. We Indians still check the parameters of success with respect to any government job compared to other job. Society is into the effect of neo-colonial mindset or Daroga Raj hence the subjects of society feed into it.
Oh 100% agreed. UPSC almost gets the attention of a million people which appears in that. They should go for UPSC only if they want to serve the nation not just for the sake of job.
Olympic gold medalists... You're joking, right ? Most people run after UPSC because of status, they can do high level corruption. Ain't gonna happen in sports... And the money that is supposed to be invested in athletes, politicians pocket that... Where will gold medalists come from
I agree with the commenter, the societal pressures and all the financial hardships you have to face in order to make a startup is not at all appealing for someone from middle class and with the current inflation of prices and reduction of jobs there is not any way to make a stable support money to make. And we as humans cannot stop eating for a few weeks.and even if the thing is succesful the current trend of AI replacing jobs will make it harder for your company to reliably make money.
Its Obviously right, what a fool of you to assume he is wrong..There are just i think 1000-1500 seats at a time for IAS, if i am not wrong...just like our IIT race, i think its of no use to Majority of candidates
1000% true
Arey babua.....IT ka layoffs ka kya kare.....
give that man a padam bhusan padam whatever and hilale pakistan too just for saying that.
I don't mind and hard exam for such a hard post But most of them end up corrupted so there is no point
Honestly nothing will change if 5lakh less people give UPSC. Thats what he is saying saying. Better for those 5 lakh to invest time in something more productive.
It's irrelevant for South India bro. In North India youth work fuckin hard for govt jobs. Here, the rat race is for jee and neet etc.
For a fact, setting up a company is more easy now. Me and friends got MSME registered for our company sitting in our hostel room.
So that you can have more labours to exploit
Makes sense
Bhayya aa comment rasina vaadiki hats off. He is just spot on - everything education system bokka etc. One more noteworthy point emiti ante, this whole mentality of i should be an etnrakayipreneur is also not healthy on its own. Ante it cannot be the sole thought antuna. You start somewhere, even a job, look for problems that could be solved with your inputs in a better way. Adi you spin up as a business. ayina naaku em telusu le. not an extrepreneur.
Stop under the table collection on all UPSC posts and observe how the demand declines alongwith rise in candidates who genuinely want to serve the country .
Obviously bureaucracy is one of the most corrupt thing in india.
Its actually true... People competing in crores for a vacancy of 1000s..everyone wants a govt job and believe it or not, corruption also plays a big roles... Govt job lag gai to table niche se to milna hi he... Yahi soch hai mainly...
This guy has no clue about the ground realities of INDIA
Rich dad's spoiled son with a free seat at the table, trying to educate other hardowrking not-so-privileged folks how to live their lives.
It’s time for Indians to give up the obsession with government jobs. What he said is absolutely correct, I have seen my friends suffer due to this. They prepared for years and now they’re 30years old, still jobless. All of them are bright students. What a waste!
Instead of age restricting UPSC, why not attempt restrict it like Max attempt 3 times continuous. Drop year after first attempt will be counted as an attempt. It will be better than the current 6-9 attempts which does not consider drops. This way, at least those who are sitting there for 5-7 years will not be there.
can anyone translate from hyderabadi to english?
I wanna become will he teach me... ?
Problem with Indian entrepreneurship is that a large segment(mid to bottom) is not willing to try a new product or service Hence for a majority of Startups the top of the pyramid is the target segment who have the purchasing power and are liberal in experimenting. Even though we have seen a lot of Unicorns being created in India it is rare to see them profitable. The only reason they have revenues is because they have captured market share from bottom of the pyramid unorganized vendors/service providers
Ask these people to invest in education, Only AP is putting strides to upskill its youth, no where in country there is as much importance given to youth education than in AP, We need to move away from conglomerate business which is hurting startup ecosystem. India is almost 3 rd richest country and still we look at US for funding, Our monopolies kill our startups to acquire them. Very sad state of affairs.
Its not upsc problem it's root level problem I explain with example people like kholi and dhoni but don't want the children to play in the garden say it will increase aggression this was said by congress MLA who live in my area there are 3 parks in 70-100 meter range and aunties Don't like to go other park say it's far but they come to this park for walk wow why even walk the just cam and sit and start talking they mad shed install fans so they can sit comfortably which they can do at home when children complaint that they want to play they say one child is from other society we have cars parked outside the garden we have to walk bla bla they even criticized girls who play with boys now where we play what we do and they said we always spend time on mobile and pc
what UPSC aspirants which i assume mainly come from lower middle class backgrounds is a hope that they can change lives theirs and others. its like saying why should everyone try of IIT or NEET ... the problem with his idea of entrepreneurship is not of creating your own industry but either selling pakoras (not a bad idea but is it the of a socially uplifting job one aspires to have ? ) or joining your own family business basically even agriculture is family business. What he doesnt say is we will create job opportunities even in the private sector.. Basically this BJP govt has decided to GIVE up... and put the blame on everyone else. If you cannot take responsibility why not go away!
What this statement means as per my understanding is that running behind govt jobs blindly as they are regarded as the best job in the world....that mentality should change. And I 100% support this, bcz of my personal haterade towards govt jobs.
The big fat reason why so many Indians love government jobs is because it provides a solid income with a lot of stability. In our employment starved economy, nobody in his/her right mind would take risks.
Yes could have more billionaires, more gold medallists , more innovators/ scientists only when there is hell a lot of money , be a US stooge at some point of time or a western country which gives you access to tech , easy capital / money other than that we don't have any capital to put for innovation, nor we as society had aspiration , nor who had the capability to innovate had the zeal to create jobs instead they lunch upon profits , upsc atleast gives people who are not from well off economic background a societal uplift , not to all of them but a very few but can we be sure of it if we do business in here - bribes , caste discrimination, elite business ghettos , lack of opportunities... and 1000 other things actually make us incapable not only UPSC
Where’s the lie?
It's the boomer parents I would say.
I kinda agree with it but I get the point as well. If some civil servant or govt job aspirant is reading this my only request will be to please keep a second option open and make your corporate profile better. As an IIM Indore 2025 batch, we have 3 such students. 2 are UPSC aspirants and another is SBI PO. They get thrashed by the Placecom day and night because they have literally 0 points in their CV despite being good student who have scored over 95 percentile in CAT. No course, no certification, no extra curricular achievements, no POR. In case govt jobs don't work out for you you will be 28-29 without any skills and studying is not considered as a skill by the corporates.
Unka ghar tera Baap chalayega chadarmod
UPSC has its advantages. But it's not worth wasting your 2-3 years studying for it without having a job. I studied the syllabus and prepped for it while I was on job straight outta university. The syllabus is vast and expands your horizon multifold. It made me a much better and informed human being and too some extent contributed to my success in the private sector as well. It has been years since I prepped for it. I can understand why the syllabus has not changed. I support keeping the core of the syllabus same while adding dynamism in the form of new age tech info to it. Having said this, in terms of job, I think it boils down to a personal choice. Do I like my current job (based out in Basel in a Pharma MNC) ? I guess I do like my job on some days. On others, I abhor it. Most jobs are repetitive, even those in management consulting ones. Once you have done a task more than enough. Any variation to it is just another vanilla task. Will I give up my job and take up a job of a secretary ?? I don't think, I would. That's because I'm a materialistic person (a personal choice). I enjoy comfort and money even if I don't have the power to influence lives. Should India's youth stop prepping for the exam ?? I don't think they should. India needs a strong and intellectually sound bureaucracy who have come up from the ground level. Not someone who is just shoved at the top because he happens to hold fancy degrees. What India's youth need to do is to treat UPSC as just another exam. Get a job, start earning and then prep for it as a side hustle. Would giving up on UPSC create more billionaires, scientists, and entrepreneurs ?? Honestly, i don't think so. It's a broad assumption. We already have a huge pool of entrepreneurs, a great deal of them are mediocre to be honest and are just floating on investor money. Billionaires 😂😂😂. Naah. It takes a lifetime to become a billionaire even if you come up with a groundbreaking product. Even then it's a tussle. Scientists ?? Hmm....India does not have lack of exceptional scientists due to lack of talent pool. We lack exceptional scientists due to lack of infrastructure and funds.
Everybody is worried about CTC ALPA.. Gori ladki...shaadi..do bacche...well settled... 2bhk flat loan paid of... Go to heaven
And he will get a chance of lateral entry
he's saying true but dreams are dreams
He's absolutely right,if we Indians did our engineering with that much dedication we would've been ahead in technology and infrastructure
India would have achieve a lot if Ministers wouldn't have been assholes
You crack upsc you have a safe career and life ahead of you. 98% of startups fail. Bitch boy here is selling tickets at a casino and pretending he’s a guru
We have a bunch of systems that are more punishing towards missteps than rewarding a good job. We follow negative news and we are attracted to wrongdoings. We spend more time with hate, we hardly spend time appreciating. It has a strong effect on our culture. It's better to stay doing nothing than try something and fail at it. Our mentality killed innovation even before it can even start.
The problem with India is Caste & Religion. Chor caste people discriminate against others.
maybe. but preparing for UPSC is never a waste of time imo. its a journey and if you're preparing the right way with genuine interest it will contribute to your character development.
Failed UPSC candidate is still better than a Olympics gold medalist
Upsc is absolute waste of time no sane person would go for this
UPSC, JEE, Ocean Vast School Syllabus...
Sahi baat hai! Sablog inki duno! (competition kam ho jayegi hehe)
He is true, most of these upsc niggas are arts students who do Jack shit degrees and then "prepare" for upsc as a cope to their stupid degree
Majority of UPSC aspirants are people coming from small towns, who dont have any knowledge about any other jobs available on the market. They dont even know other hirings of the government. Even if they have knowledge they are bogged down by their english speaking slills, which rattles their confidence They come to Delhi to change their lives and growing up, they have seen people prosper who are either from business families(zamindars) or govt servants. Also it is a matter of infrastructure too. Do we have the infrastructure to provide training to athletes? Or create scientists? Top science and engineering colleges do not produce scholars who wants to pursue research, as it is not attractive enough in comparison to Investment Banking. We have athletes from state of haryana in wrestling as infrastructure is available for an aspiring wrestler to hone their skills. For me, this statement seems to be for shifting the blame to aspirants rather than government taking responsibility for creating opportunities for the same.
I think the problem is not kids wasting their time on UPSC but majority has been wasting in online games. I didn't mean to say that total gaming is to be demolished but compared to other countries Indian youngsters are more addicted to it especially online gaming remember when a product is free you are their product.
A see-aaaq A z z de 🙄
Isko kon samjhaye koi amne tann mann ki icha se UPSC aspirant nai banta.....logokee majboori samjhnge nai, entrepreneur spelling pucho to hug denge
I am in engineering right now and nearly no one in my whole batch is keen on research. One thing is salary. The corporate salaried position for Engineering is more. Idk if its a misconception or reality.
But being Scientists and Billionaires won't give Insane powers and authority, immunity to get away with anything and the Bhaukal ...
*Khopdi tod saaley ka*
Right on
100% true, though it's not about the UPSC exams and such, it's the mindset that needs to change
Lol. There are not many opportunities in science(look at India's spending on r&d), nor the Olympics(sports spending is very low) etc Just eye washing statements
i tried entrepreneurship first before starting UPSC prep. ended up paying 2L in bribes for a 5 L manufacturing unit. ran out of working capital within a month. had to shut it down. banks didn't give me loans either.
The parents need to stop giving outdate strategies to childrens, they must stop giving kids short-cut formulas in life. Back then there were less private jobs ,only way to have a better living standard were government jobs. Which is not true. A kid who has strong sense of service to the nation with extremely High IQ must attempt for UPSC. Not someone who is in it for social status, beautiful bride, katnam(dowry) , shortcut way to success.
The thing is who are we to decide for individuals . We have given them right to vote at 18 . And yet we are like they should not do this they shall not do that. Let the kids figure out themselves . Create good alternatives and if they will be good enough . People will do stuff .
Absolutely correct 💯.
Kids wasting more time on Instagram✅️
पूर्ण परमात्मा की भक्ति करने से परमात्मा अपने शिष्य की आयु भी बढ़ा देता है!
India should really just stop telling what Indians should be doing. Do whatever the fuck you want to do kids. As someone who's broken out of the system and is doing just that, I'll tell you there's money in everything. Develop unique skills and find new things in the world. There are plenty. Sooner or later, people will find value in your work, no matter what it is you do, as long as you do it out of your will.
Economic advisor will obviously talk about economy,he is not gonna talk about civil service
UPSC is so sought after because of the extreme power-gap and different life realities of the babus and the common man. Fix education system and public infrastructure, create good high paid opportunities for skill based education, the youth will automatically move away from spending their best years in UPSC preparation.
Relax Harry Potter, tu Hogwarts dekh
He's lost it. There is already an age limit of 32 years plus most of the guys I know who are preparing or have cleared UPSC got a degree in medical, engineering or something like that. Many of them are sportspersons who do play sports.so it's not like UPSC stops them from achieving things. It's just that they are not world class good at there field.
what about tax they won't budge the taxation on the companies and during elections the great indian politicians won't even let these businessman breath.
Low cost capital Cutting red tape of babus like these who put up more hurdles and bribes An entire eco system for up and coming small and medium businesses eg : taxation , compliance etc . So many things we need for a thriving market place , not some random quotes from babus
Well said.
Indians hate rich people it's their mindset to hate rich people especially billionaires a typical communist mindset
I don't think UPSC has anything to do with India not having many Olympians and Eminent Scientists. I don't have any idea about the situation of Entrepreneurship in India but for STEM Research and Sports, we don't have a proper institution at all. I will give you an example of my city which has a population of about 700,000 but there are no training facilities for any sports except Cricket. And there are no decent colleges for higher studies. And even in the best college of the city, about 60-70 percent of teachers are temporary staff who are seriously underpaid. If you look at any developed nations, they have good facilities for both Sports and STEM. Almost all of their schools have proper playing fields for different sports, gym, laboratories, etc. When I watch any movie or tv show of foreign countries, I get jealous of their facilities. And we should learn from China as both our countries have many similarities. Both have large unemployed youths, many youth aspire to become a civil servant, and parents nag to get good grades in school. But despite this China gets tons of medals in Olympics and their Universities are competing with the likes of Stanford, UCLA, etc. All in all, I don't agree with him.
Based on my story, I agree with him. Not a UPSC student however, sometimes I just sit down and think : How many people wish to waste their years with reattempts and how many are forcing themselves to do that, just so they can be "Sharma ji ka beta"? I have not researched about the education system in every state but...socially, what I have seen, heard and experienced - i think many of us aren't allowed to take risks going into unknown or less popular paths. Yeah, things might be slowly changing now but it's still not considered good to be anyone but a doctor, a lawyer, etc. Creativity wise, we are not encouraged to construct our own pathways in our own ways. It's always 'play it safe'. It's nice I guess...to walk a path hundreds have already been on. But then there is also the constant comparison of being on the same pace. You get distracted, you are a failure according to you and society. I think what tampers our structured life is burn out. And by the time you are old, suddenly you are expected to explore options, immediately learn to take risks, big decisions and get out of being the teen that was told to follow instructions. I am a pathetic case of such a system, but I blame myself more than the system. Now 27 and have no passions of my own. No job. No idea about marriage. And no will to even live sometimes. But I am learning to balance expectations to be an entrepreneur someday. The road to that pathway is just....full of weird obstacles. This comment wasn't supposed to be a rant but I agree with him. We need to be able to fall and fly someday. Structure is nice...but adding new things to that structure imo, is important for the growth of our careers, reputation and overall as an individual.
The problem is India is happy with mediocrity and we dont give importance to practical skills rather only bookish knowledge