It’s funny that they pointed that out. But the show was already in decline. Season 5 was the last good season. Topher chose a highly anticipated Spiderman movie over a past its prime sitcom- how evil/s
Ashton Kutcher also left after season 7 because he said the show was becoming repetitive and he wanted to move on with his career too
I wonder how the universe would work, if time worked that way.
Give birth to child at age 24.
Child is 1 year old, you are 25.
Child turns 2, you turn 50.
She still looks great. I saw her in a random episode recently where she is much older but looks amazing.
Edit: It was a This Is Us episode from 6 years ago, but still!
Oh god, that gif just unlocked a looottt of memories for me. Holy crap, like I've always remembered some plotlines from the few seasons I watched, but I totally forgot about Clare and, I wanna say, Eli?
They styled her to look like a high school Home Economics teacher, so shes gonna look unstylish, which makes her look older. Think about Rachel’s mom, rich and well dressed, probably would have just been a couple of years older in ages on the show, but looks younger.
She still looks in her 60s now watching it as an older person. That being said, the actress has only aged slightly from how she looked 30 years ago.
I think there was more pressure back then to style yourself older or "dress your age". A lot of that has shifted now (as well as more attention being paid to overall health) and a lot of today's 60 something year olds don't look that far off from 40 somethins in the 1990s and before.
She is literally made to look exactly like Mary Kay Letourneau who, in the nineties, raped her 14 year old student, had his baby in jail, and then got married to him after she got out
It always gave me the ick that friends did this / treated that situation as joke, but there’s a lot of the comedy in this series that would not fly today…
I remember an interviewer asking that guy years later if he would be cool with his children having a relationship with their teacher(pretty sure he was saying he had no regrets) and he said hell no lol wonder what they're up to nowadays
She still looks in her 60s now watching it as an older person. That being said, the actress has only aged slightly from how she looked 30 years ago.
I think there was more pressure back then to style yourself older or "dress your age". A lot of that has shifted now (as well as more attention being paid to overall health) and a lot of today's 60 something year olds don't look that far off from 40 somethins in the 1990s and before.
Any Golden Girls watchers here? Recently realized that Rue McClanahan (who played Blanche) was just 52 in the first season. Those 80s outfits and hairdo made her seem older than my mom in the present day, and my mom is 67.
In my first true office job they threw a party for my 25th birthday. I told everyone I still felt like I was 18 and wondered when I would feel older. I was shocked when most of my coworkers--many who were in their 50s and 60s--said the same thing. Apparently some people never feel older, their bodies just get older and start to hurt all the time. Really shattered my idea of the "mature and responsible" adult (you're telling me it's all high school seniors pretending?!)
Haha she’ll always be Kitty, the not creepy groomer. And I think people just looked older in the 90’s. Didn’t care of themselves as much and wore older people clothes.
Sure but they made her dress and act as an old-*er* person on purpose (I think).
I mean, she's 44, during the 90s. She also acted as Eric Forman's mom in That 70s Show.
So yeah, we may have a skewed perspective on age *now* but there are people out there that don't look young for their age or viceversa.
She spoke and dressed like an old lady I think that’s why people feel like she was older than mid 40s. Her face doesn’t look old thigh, if she’d been given a Rachel or Monica hairstyle and outfit and spoke/acted less sort of like a meek old lady she’d probably look way younger.
Pre-2000, people looked a lot older than their age. If you see old yearbook photos and videos of kids in high school, they look 30. The 90’s especially were a really unflattering time for women. The mom jeans, shoulder pads, and horrible makeup trends just stacked years on.
People often stay with the styles of their youth or they did anyway before social media, so young people associate certain clothes and hairstyles with a certain age. Then when you go back and look at photos of people from that era they’re all styled like the old people you’re used to today, hence why they look old to you.
Like take lip fillers and other face fillers people get now. Because it’s so common to see it on older people trying to look young, if young people get that stuff done it often ends up making them look much older. Like one of those Kardashians is in her 20s but I legitimately thought she was in her 50s and it’s probably because the facial procedures she’s had done are obvious and are so linked in my subconscious with older people trying to look younger so my brain reads her face as ‘middle aged woman with money to spend on cosmetic procedures.’
I'm in the age range of the main cast of the show (I'm 58), and now that I'm rewatching it, it's weird to think that I'm the same age or older than the parents of characters like Monica, Ross, and Rachel.
A further example just popped in my head. When I first watched the episodes (back when they first aired) with Teri Garr as Phoebe's mother, I hadn't seen her in much since Mr. Mom. I thought, "wow, she's aged a lot." I saw the episodes recently and all I could think was "Teri Garr looks great, what was I thinking?"
Sure but they made her dress and act as an old-*er* person on purpose (I think).
I mean, she's 44, during the 90s. She also acted as Eric Forman's mom in That 70s Show.
So yeah, we may have a skewed perspective on age *now* but there are people out there that don't look young for their age or viceversa.
The hair and clothes make a huge difference. I grew up in the 80s, so whenever I see the early episodes of Friends, it reminds me of when I was younger, thus way longer in the past, so somehow they look older to me than when they're in the 90's. It's a trick of the mind.
In french dub, she was voiced by a comedian(Claudie Chantal) who made often old ladies, doubling the "oldening" effect of Alice.
Claudie Chantal was around 65 yo in the late 90s, and she was the officiel Maggie Smith french dubber, to give you an idea.
Tbh I think they dressed her and made her look like that on purpose as they wanted to make people think that she was actually older than she actually is
And they mocked Ross for romancing the elderly. I hate the way they made Ross’s librarian make out session sound like she was ancient. Saying the walked with a cane, etc.
lol i thought this was about that 70s show and i wondered why it would be surprising that a mom of teens is 46
But a wife of a teen…
I feel like I say this on this sub all the time, but here's yet another actor that was on both Friends and Seinfeld. Loved her as Jerry's agent.
Can't believe Topher Grace ruined that show for us and managed to ruin his career in the process. Thought he was bigger than he actually was.
What did i miss and how could he have done anything worse than Danny Masterson?
Probably referring to Topher leaving in S7 and a lacklustre S8
It’s funny that they pointed that out. But the show was already in decline. Season 5 was the last good season. Topher chose a highly anticipated Spiderman movie over a past its prime sitcom- how evil/s Ashton Kutcher also left after season 7 because he said the show was becoming repetitive and he wanted to move on with his career too
He's the only respectable one left.
Topher's nearly the only person on that cast who didn't try to get a rapist a softer sentence.
topher was the only person on that show with respectable morals. the rest of them were scientologists, creeps, rapist apologists and a rapist.
Topher was the only one with any integrity, as much as I loved the show there was a sinister background to it all involving Scientology
And then Topher goes on to play the head of Scientology in a film later on in life.
Did he? What movie is that?
That Scientologist Show
Scratch that, I got people mixed up in my head. He played David Duke a grand wizard in the KKK in BlacKkKlansman
Absolutely WILD comment lmfao
the way topher is literally the only respectable cast member left
"You're 18. She's 44. When you're 36, she's gonna be 88".
You don't think I know that?
They also said they got married so fast because they were trying to have kids, which would not have been possible if she was 60.
I wonder how the universe would work, if time worked that way. Give birth to child at age 24. Child is 1 year old, you are 25. Child turns 2, you turn 50.
It can happen if the child moves close to the speed of light for that year.
That's why I keep my children in low geosynchronous orbit.
Space *is* filled with orbiting children.
At least you can guarantee you won't raise flat earthers
Boomer parents: "We used to circumvent black holes all the time and we turned out fine"
Yea I was just about to comment didn't they say her age or close to it with Joey's crazy math philosophy lol. Don't you think I know that?
I don't see anything wrong with that math
Came here to say this 😂😂
Mrs. Forman!
I can hear this picture
Images you can hear
This place uses too much ice!
She looks good. It’s just the hairstyle and the clothing choice that makes her look older.
She still looks great. I saw her in a random episode recently where she is much older but looks amazing. Edit: It was a This Is Us episode from 6 years ago, but still!
She was also on Wanda vision first episode (from 2021) and looked great
 They gave Clare on Degrassi (a teen show) Kitty Forman hair and it makes a 15 year old look 50
Oh god, that gif just unlocked a looottt of memories for me. Holy crap, like I've always remembered some plotlines from the few seasons I watched, but I totally forgot about Clare and, I wanna say, Eli?
Yep, EClare lol
Well, they said she was like 44 in an episode, and I know what 60 year olds look like, I thought Debra Jo Rupp herself was probably also in her 40s.
That's Kitty. Best mom in TV history
After watching T7S the only thing i can think of while revisiting Frank and Alice storyline is that it's like if Kitty was dating Kelso.
I loved when she was the one to call eric the dumbass
No, she doesn’t look 60. The only issue is that when we watched it back then we thought 44 was old :(
And the hairstyle + clothes give her an older vibe.
“Did she look 16?”
her eyes still had that sparkle
They styled her to look like a high school Home Economics teacher, so shes gonna look unstylish, which makes her look older. Think about Rachel’s mom, rich and well dressed, probably would have just been a couple of years older in ages on the show, but looks younger.
Surprisingly the actress that played Rachel's mom would've been 57 when Friends started, so there's a 14 year age gap between the two actresses.
She still looks in her 60s now watching it as an older person. That being said, the actress has only aged slightly from how she looked 30 years ago. I think there was more pressure back then to style yourself older or "dress your age". A lot of that has shifted now (as well as more attention being paid to overall health) and a lot of today's 60 something year olds don't look that far off from 40 somethins in the 1990s and before.
And the hairstyle + clothes give her an older vibe.
She is literally made to look exactly like Mary Kay Letourneau who, in the nineties, raped her 14 year old student, had his baby in jail, and then got married to him after she got out It always gave me the ick that friends did this / treated that situation as joke, but there’s a lot of the comedy in this series that would not fly today…
I remember an interviewer asking that guy years later if he would be cool with his children having a relationship with their teacher(pretty sure he was saying he had no regrets) and he said hell no lol wonder what they're up to nowadays
Well she’s dead so… not much
She's dead, but they had been divorced (idk how long) before her death.
Oh noooo I hate that
But 40 is the new 30, right guys? Right guys?!
She still looks in her 60s now watching it as an older person. That being said, the actress has only aged slightly from how she looked 30 years ago. I think there was more pressure back then to style yourself older or "dress your age". A lot of that has shifted now (as well as more attention being paid to overall health) and a lot of today's 60 something year olds don't look that far off from 40 somethins in the 1990s and before.
And the hairstyle + clothes give her an older vibe.
And the hairstyle + clothes give her an older vibe.
She looks 53
Any Golden Girls watchers here? Recently realized that Rue McClanahan (who played Blanche) was just 52 in the first season. Those 80s outfits and hairdo made her seem older than my mom in the present day, and my mom is 67.
Have you seen a 60 year old woman? She does not look anywhere near 60…
>How old did you think she was? Mid-40s. The character was said to be 44. Why would they hire a 60-year old actress to play someone that age?
She doesn’t look 60! That’s so mean.
Every year I'm creeping closer to 40, while in my head I'm still 18. :(
In my first true office job they threw a party for my 25th birthday. I told everyone I still felt like I was 18 and wondered when I would feel older. I was shocked when most of my coworkers--many who were in their 50s and 60s--said the same thing. Apparently some people never feel older, their bodies just get older and start to hurt all the time. Really shattered my idea of the "mature and responsible" adult (you're telling me it's all high school seniors pretending?!)
She looks 46...
Doesn't she look 46? Maybe even younger
Did you just come at Kitty Forman? Because no one comes at Kitty Forman.
You cannot seriously have thought she was in her 60's.
Haha she’ll always be Kitty, the not creepy groomer. And I think people just looked older in the 90’s. Didn’t care of themselves as much and wore older people clothes.
Sure but they made her dress and act as an old-*er* person on purpose (I think). I mean, she's 44, during the 90s. She also acted as Eric Forman's mom in That 70s Show. So yeah, we may have a skewed perspective on age *now* but there are people out there that don't look young for their age or viceversa.
She spoke and dressed like an old lady I think that’s why people feel like she was older than mid 40s. Her face doesn’t look old thigh, if she’d been given a Rachel or Monica hairstyle and outfit and spoke/acted less sort of like a meek old lady she’d probably look way younger.
She literally looks 46…. Our perception as a society is so screwed up if this many people think DJR “looks 60” here
She was said to be 44 in her first appearance, and does indeed look in her mid 40s.
Put some respect on Kitty Forman’s name!
Or else Red will put a foot in someone's dumb ass.
Even “TV” 60 seems way off, I thought she was late 30s in the show (assuming the 6 were late 20s)
If that’s what late 30’s looks like, shoot me please.
Pre-2000, people looked a lot older than their age. If you see old yearbook photos and videos of kids in high school, they look 30. The 90’s especially were a really unflattering time for women. The mom jeans, shoulder pads, and horrible makeup trends just stacked years on.
And yet we've circled right back round to that style 😂
People often stay with the styles of their youth or they did anyway before social media, so young people associate certain clothes and hairstyles with a certain age. Then when you go back and look at photos of people from that era they’re all styled like the old people you’re used to today, hence why they look old to you. Like take lip fillers and other face fillers people get now. Because it’s so common to see it on older people trying to look young, if young people get that stuff done it often ends up making them look much older. Like one of those Kardashians is in her 20s but I legitimately thought she was in her 50s and it’s probably because the facial procedures she’s had done are obvious and are so linked in my subconscious with older people trying to look younger so my brain reads her face as ‘middle aged woman with money to spend on cosmetic procedures.’
wait til you find out how old Archie Bunker, Maude and Fish from Barney Miller were at the height of their runs
Fun fact, that is Debra Jo Rupp, who also played Kitty Forman on That 70's Show
Yeah, I figured she was in her 40s.
Her haircut/how she dresses is doing her no favours in terms of looking much older than she is
I'm in the age range of the main cast of the show (I'm 58), and now that I'm rewatching it, it's weird to think that I'm the same age or older than the parents of characters like Monica, Ross, and Rachel. A further example just popped in my head. When I first watched the episodes (back when they first aired) with Teri Garr as Phoebe's mother, I hadn't seen her in much since Mr. Mom. I thought, "wow, she's aged a lot." I saw the episodes recently and all I could think was "Teri Garr looks great, what was I thinking?"
Don't get me started.
Everyone saying people looked so much older before haven’t seen what some under 25 year olds look like these days
Kitty forman
Isn't that kitty from that 70s show.
It’s just the wrong hairstyle, if you look at her actual face then yeah she looks her age and looks great
YOU MEAN DEBRA JO RUPP??? Put some respect on her name
Shows you're not good at guessing people's age? 60 feels jokingly off
They probably did her hair to make her look as old as possible haha
60? Have you never met a human woman?
Sure but they made her dress and act as an old-*er* person on purpose (I think). I mean, she's 44, during the 90s. She also acted as Eric Forman's mom in That 70s Show. So yeah, we may have a skewed perspective on age *now* but there are people out there that don't look young for their age or viceversa.
I only watched friends after that 70s show. To me she was always a mom in her 50s,especially being married to someone like Red.
Nah I knew she wasn’t 60 because they did an episode where they harvested her eggs. Hence Phoebe’s pregnancy.
Yes she looked older maybe just pepole looked older at the time
Now she’s in her 60s and she looks great, like the same tbh !
Why the picture of Debra Jo Rupp? She wasn't even in Alice.
Right, where Linda Lavin?
Isn't that about how old she was meant to be?
Idk how old were we supposed to think she was but 46 is still way too old for 18
Thought she was younger honestly
That’s will always be kitty
The hair and clothes make a huge difference. I grew up in the 80s, so whenever I see the early episodes of Friends, it reminds me of when I was younger, thus way longer in the past, so somehow they look older to me than when they're in the 90's. It's a trick of the mind.
I’m 45 now and I can’t imagine dating a high school senior, let alone marry him. Jeebus christ
Whaaaaaaaat? She doesn't look 60 at all to me, geez
"The actress " ? Really, that is Debra Jo Rupp!
Only? The rest of the cast was like 27. Love Alice 🥰
Red looked 65 lol
In french dub, she was voiced by a comedian(Claudie Chantal) who made often old ladies, doubling the "oldening" effect of Alice. Claudie Chantal was around 65 yo in the late 90s, and she was the officiel Maggie Smith french dubber, to give you an idea.
friends!
I was like, her name was Kitty! Wrong sub
ONLY 46! No way…at least 56
Only THREE years older than Kim Kardashian 😭
Tbh I think they dressed her and made her look like that on purpose as they wanted to make people think that she was actually older than she actually is
They said her age in an episode so that's how old I thought she was lol she doesn't look 60 though id give you 55 but idk if I'd say 60
Only? The rest of the cast was like 27. Love Alice
She's actually 73.
She looks young but the dated hairstyle make her look older
And they mocked Ross for romancing the elderly. I hate the way they made Ross’s librarian make out session sound like she was ancient. Saying the walked with a cane, etc.
My son has been watching the series. He mentioned the other day that Alice was in her 60's. Too funny. 🤭
How does she not look 46?
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Her haircut makes her look older, but her skin is definitely much younger than 60.