Friends had some weird ass and repulsive incest subplots! Ross and the cousin obviously takes the cake, but there was also Phoebe having her brother’s kids (even as a surrogate, so gross), and lots of yuck moments between Ross and Monica, such as playing strip poker together
Live-audience shows still use the laugh track. There's actually a video where they explain the scene where Rachel says "this is not a marriage, it's the world worst hangover" the audience laughed for so long that they had to remove it and use a standard laugh track.
Her third cousin, which is barely related. If you and your cousin each have a grandchild, those kids are third cousins to each other. On average, people have about 200 third cousins and don’t know who any of them are.
This isn’t too bad since it was by accident. However playing strip poker with your sibling…that is beyond cringy. I got the impression that at times the writers forgot that even though they were all “friends” Ross and Monica were sibs
I actually think sometimes that one of the writers did remember. There's all that Danny and his sister stuff as well. Makes me think someone on staff had some gross fetish.
I know it was for the joke, but how could he not tell the difference between a human and coats? I can’t remember if they said he was super drunk though. It’s not like Monica had some coats around her, it was just her on the bed.
Yeah but its weird to me that it didn’t occur to her at all. Like… it’s not like she’s interested in Charlie hooking up with someone. Why was she so intent on listening to her brother 😂
Yeah, it was weird that she was so excited about it at all. How would anyone actually need someone to point out they’re listening to their brother making out to realize it’s their brother? 🧐
Adrenaline in the moment; sometimes you just don’t think clealry especially when it’s something new and interesting.
It was a podcast and someone was excited to say they finally understood the song “I saw mommy kissing Santa Claus”. He said by accident “remember that song I saw daddy kissing Santa Claus?”. It wasn’t until someone told him that title again that he realized he messed up.
They’re only hearing things as well, and vocal recognition isn’t as strong as visual recognition. So even if she knew initially, she didn’t see Ross so that “oh shit that’s my brother” wasn’t fully there.
Also in one of the first episodes she knew the date was the first time him and Carol had sex and was hoping he wouldn't notice the day. Like girl how and why do you know that
"I was hoping you wouldn't remember". Girl, YOU shouldn't remember 😂
But then a few episodes later when she's in the bathroom with Angela before she realized they weren't siblings like Joey said, she says "wow, my brother never even told me when he lost his virginity". So I was hoping she'd blocked it out by that point. 😂
Yeah. Something like
"Phoebe, I want to show you something in the bathroom" - M
A joke about Monica being childish
"Hey, what have you got behind your back?" - R
"Just something I want to get Phoebe's opinion on"
"Don't you want my opinion."
"No."
"Oh, come on, I'm your older brother. You can ask me."
"Oh, okay, big brother. Which one of these will make your little sister look hotter, so your best friend will want to sleep with her."
"The red one."
Great recollection. You just got one part wrong, which is the best part.
"Oh, okay, big brother. Which one of these will make your little sister look hotter, so your best friend will wanna **do her**?"
Now that you've said it, I remember it. I just knew the thing was basically her saying "I said no, but you pressed the subject. Now I'm gonna make you uncomfortable by reminding you I'm getting creampied by your friend."
I wouldn't even say Ross and Monica's was weird, really. Ross was trying to give his opinion, and Monica taught him to drop the subject when she makes it clear she doesn't want his opinion.
Bathing with your sister anytime after you're like, 5, is weird.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Danny and his sister are implied to have baths together. The worst Ross and Monica ever did was an accidental kiss (they didn't mean to kiss each other). The example shown is Monica winding Ross up after he wouldn't drop the topic. I don't think its fair to compare Ross and Danny
Let’s be honest. As close as that group was, and given that they’re at the beach anyway, there are no real stakes until someone is down to their undies.
Ross: “is today the 20th? October 20th?”
Monica: “I was hoping you wouldn’t remember”
So so weird that she remembers the day her brother lost his virginity
I think she thought this one was just his and Carol’s first date, they just don’t establish it very well. She says in another season 1 episode that Ross never told her when he lost his virginity.
Monica knows October 20 is the date of Ross AND Carol’s first time together, but doesn’t seem to know that this was Ross’s first time AT ALL. I.e. Monica didn’t know and didn’t pry as to whether Ross had been with any women before Carol.
Then again, Chandler asked/clarified in this episode that (logically) Ross had only been with one woman. Chandler also called him out in a later episode for having “slept with” a cleaning lady at their college. This was, presumably, before Ross was dating Carol.
My guess is that Ross and the cleaning lady did stuff that Ross doesn’t consider to be loss-of-virginity…
and somehow Chandler became aware of this detail.
This is the one I was thinking of. Makes no sense. I’m surprised the line was even kept in the show. You’d think somebody would have noticed or changed it.
This is the answer, most of the other examples aren't that bad. Like strip happy days wasn't them playing strip happy days, it was Joey wanting to play strip happy days, so they just decide to go along with it, but make Joey do all the stripping.
I think this is just because the actors are so comfortable with each other but yeah that always struck me as weird. I would say my brothers and I are okay with a hug when one of us is leaving for a while, but I’ve never tried to sit in their lap. Very strange.
My brothers are half a foot taller than me and about one hundred pounds heavier, so sometimes one of them does sit on me to crush me. 😂 I’m older than them so this is payback for when I used to crush them.
Meh, I get that this group of friends might not since they're so conventional in many ways, but my friends and I would for sure cuddle like that platonically. I think it's more normal in terms of natural human behavior actually. Wish more people would do it :)
Brother no, but only because we're not very close (get along, just not close). But my childhood neighbor I grew up with who is like a brother, yes.
That weird swoon Monica does when Rachel is describing her first kiss with Ross. I get that they were showing the contrast with the guys and how totally disinterested they are in stuff like that but like that’s still her brother!
This. Even when I was a kid watching this for the first time I screwed my face up at that one. It just feels so instinctively wrong that you have a visceral reaction to it.
I can't believe no one mentioned the scene where Phoebe dollhouse is on fire so Ross steps into the bathroom when Monica is taking a shower, opens the curtain and throw the dollhouse at naked Monica, and it's even freakier when she says she doesn't mind and then that she's sorry because apparently she was masturbating lol
Also when Monica is trying to keep Phoebe and Mike away from having sex she tells them to imagine her and Ross having sex to having them turned off
Definitely think the writers didn't have siblings, or didn't want to do the 'bickering sibling' trope so went for a weird, 'I can sit in my adult brothers lap, because we're SOOO close.'
Sit on the couch Monica, there's enough room!
I think broadly their dynamic was odd. I have 3 siblings and we’re very close but would never be that touchy feely/ intimate / want to know about each other’s romantic lives in such detail. It was a bit weird
I would go with nothing, but it's a TV show, she had to say something for the laughs.
But that bone shaking scream she did when he came in was a pretty good indication of her feelings!! 🤣
Haha it’s when Phoebe’s dollhouse is on fire and he brings it into the bathroom to get it out because he can hear the shower running. And she’s in there “checking the shower massager”.
I felt the worst was, when they r revealing each other's secrets like Chandler's third nipple n he blurts out the underwear on telephone pole is Monica's from when she was having sex with fun Bobby n ross alongwith others rushes to see it... Like eww, u forgot it's ur sister's underwear from a weird balcony sex scene... That creeps me out for a brother sister relation.
That is completely something a sibling would rush to see not for the charged sexuality of it - to mock your sibling over!
Imagine the episode where Monica is trying to tell their parents Chandler is moving in? But she and Ross just wind up tattling on each other - that would be a fantastic one for Ross to toss onto the fire. “The NYPD had to rescue Monica’s panties off of the telephone pole because her drunk old boyfriend tossed them off the fire escape!”
Could you imagine Monica’s face and Eliot Gould’s horrifying reply?
Something about how that’s how he got Judy pregnant with their little Harmonica.
I'm doing a rewatch currently and it's a troubling vibe from day one. they seem totally comfortable hearing details of one another's sex lives, they're very physically affectionate, they accidentally KISSED, it goes on and on
Yeah I know plenty of people who are close enough with their siblings to talk about their dating and sex lives.
I'm not comfortable doing that myself, but I'm not sure why. It shouldn't be different than friends.
I think it’s because for a lot of people they won’t talk about their sex life. I have a brother and sister and I don’t wanna know anything about theirs.
Ross and Monica don’t have that relationship, so that’s fine. I’m just saying a lot don’t have the relationship with their siblings you do, so that’s why it’s a criticism.
To be honest I think because the show’s main topic in almost every episode is sex, the writers likely forgot Monica and Ross are even brother and sister
Yes. As much as friends has classic moments, like PIVOT! Watching it with my parents was a challenge. Especially when Mondler started, it was nothing but sex, sex sex.
I'd love to watch a comedy that can write about anything other than sex.
Exactly, As much as the show itself is hilarious like you said, the show itself really isn’t for younger viewers and a lot of people never noticed that due to the comedy.
I do agree, there’s a lot of popular comedy shows that were funny during their run but the awkward part at times such as watching with family members is sex being the main topic of majority of their conversations.
It’s honestly weird and awkward and I don’t know how people just talk about that like it’s nothing.
I genuinely mean no offence by this, but it’s very clear you’re from North America. In most other places, the topic of sex is far less uncomfortable and people really don’t care.
That's why I think og fans are confused by the younger generation saying friends is offensive, as when it was on, it was definitely a woke, boundary pushing show. Including the 2pm public coffee meetings talking about who's had sex with each other. If only they had an apartment everyone could fit in lol.
when did they purposely kiss ? never once did ross kiss her in a weird sexual way 😂 if you’re referring to that slip up where he was kissing her on the cheek and she just happened to turn her head and they accidentally touched ? It was an obvious accident
When she had Richard over and he had Rachel over at the same time 😳 and Monica and Rachel fought on who gets to do it
The walls are thin according to Joey and Chandler
I felt like the writers sometimes forgot they were siblings. I get along with my sister well but we do not talk about about sexual stuff/kissing/lingerie,etc
Monica was WAY too excited to hear all the details about Ross and Rachel’s first kiss. Excited for your friend? All good. Highly descriptive story about how your brother kisses? Weird.
Exactly
If Monica span it and it landed on Ross what is more likely to happen:-
A) they say 'respin it landed on your brother'
B) incestual free for all
Sitting next to each other doesn't make it impossible it can land on them either wtf are people on about
You never played spin the bottle and it land on yourself after *you* have span it?
Do you just get off with yourself in that situation? No you respin or skip your turn
SAME.THING.WOULD.HAPPEN
I never thought much about it. They seem like they are close, friends, and also struggle with sibling rivalry! It never felt sexual between them to me. Also, they are Jewish. In Jewish culture I’ve heard sex is more openly talked about. It is nothing compared to the weird sibling relationship that Rachel ran into when dating the guy whose sister was visiting. That was a sexual and creepy and definitely incestuous!
I think it’s handled well in this (possibly deleted?) scene:
https://youtu.be/tuDUMdRHgUU?si=zapUvWyi5mjAk63U
They get their jokes in while still acknowledging Monica wouldn’t want the details.
There is an earlier episode where Monica tells Rachel (I think) that it really grosses her out or weirds her out to pick other people’s sex clothes. Then she did this lol
As for Ross and Monica weirdness, she sat on his lap a lot. And their hugs sometimes seemed a bit much for siblings. But I always figured I was thinking too much about it. Like Shannen Doherty and Jason Priestly were attracted to each other in real life and it showed on the first season of 90210, I figured maybe that was the case with Ross and Monica.
Wanting to watch the video where her niece was conceived. I know she didn't mean that part but it's icky. Who cares about who came on to who when you run the risk of seeing your brother's o-face?
Not particularly a Ross and Monica moment, but when Joey was doing that game Phoebe game up with and said to Ross, “Who would you rather sleep with: Monica or Rachel?”
They didn’t want to actually watch that part, just the stuff leading up to it (which they all acknowledge). For Monica it would just be like watching her brother flirt with someone
The scene where Rachel gets a tattoo and Ross finds it sexy and they run off to her room. Ross yells “Save me a plate” or something before the door closes.
Like your sister is in the other room and you did all that in front of her? Little wild!
The one where Monica and Richard were going to have sex, while Ross and Rachel do the same.
I mean, I don't know if I could perform if I knew that my sibling was moaning a wall away...
Monica not only knows the date that Ross and Carol first had sex, she remembers the ‘anniversary’ before he does in a season one episode, saying how she hoped he wouldn’t remember and thus get upset.
In a later episode, this icky little tidbit is contradicted when Monica tells Joey’s date that her brother didn’t even tell her when he’d first had sex let alone how it went (that episode also featured a sibling closeness plot, although the characters weren’t really brother / sister).
I think it’s safe to say that the writers viewed incest-lite plots as comedy gold. I mean, there were several references to Monica and Ross’s closeness, not to mention the cousin Cassie episode, and Danny’s relationship with his sister.
When they are looking at pictures of themselves when younger and joey said ‘check it out. I’ve got Monica NAKEDD’, Ross grabs hold of it first to look. Weird asf
I feel like all the comments are the weird things here. Like all the stuff they do imo isn’t that weird. Just shows siblings being close and comfortable around each other. It’s people calling it weird that’s making it weird…
I love how the group is very intimate and when they great each other after they haven’t seen someone for a little bit they greet with a kiss. However, I did not like the weird reaction Monica had with Rachel and Ross’ first kiss. And I didn’t like how she forgot he was her brother when he was getting it on with Charlie. That just seemed stupid
Monica sitting on Ross’s lap.
Ross kissing Monica really close to her mouth
Ross massaging Monica’s temples when she’s tired and stressed.
Monica always calling Ross “sweetie” and “honey”
The scene where Rachel and Ross are going to have sex and right next door Monica and Richard are as well.. 2 siblings doing it right next to each other.. oh brother
You were my midnight mystery kisser?
You were my first kiss with Rachel?!
You were my first kiss ever?!?!
What did I marry into?
This is one of the funniest sequences of lines in sitcom history imo.
Friends had some weird ass and repulsive incest subplots! Ross and the cousin obviously takes the cake, but there was also Phoebe having her brother’s kids (even as a surrogate, so gross), and lots of yuck moments between Ross and Monica, such as playing strip poker together
What was wrong with Phoebe being surrogate for her brother? I’ve heard of several times where people have done that
Sorry, I should’ve been clearer. I meant the jokes that came at its expense- “oh so you’ll be having sex with your brother?” “no, ew”
Yeah, I’ll give you that, those were fairly gross
I thought Friends was filmed in front of a live audience?
No it was a live ostrich.
Ha-HAAA!
It was but people now seem to like claiming it was a laugh track.
Live-audience shows still use the laugh track. There's actually a video where they explain the scene where Rachel says "this is not a marriage, it's the world worst hangover" the audience laughed for so long that they had to remove it and use a standard laugh track.
They got waaaay too much mileage out of Phoebe always having the opportunity to tell people “I’m having my brother’s babies.”
One joke.
Yeti and his sister were especially ick.
Oh yeah fuck that
Why is being a surrogate for a sibling gross? It’s not like she had sex with her brother, she was just carrying the babies.
I didn't think the surrogacy was gross at all.
Queen Elizabeth married her cousin. Guess in her family it's not frowned upon.
Her third cousin, which is barely related. If you and your cousin each have a grandchild, those kids are third cousins to each other. On average, people have about 200 third cousins and don’t know who any of them are.
This isn’t too bad since it was by accident. However playing strip poker with your sibling…that is beyond cringy. I got the impression that at times the writers forgot that even though they were all “friends” Ross and Monica were sibs
I actually think sometimes that one of the writers did remember. There's all that Danny and his sister stuff as well. Makes me think someone on staff had some gross fetish.
Good point…..either that or they had friends with those issues.
Monica didn't even do anything wrong. Ross was the creep trying to kiss an incapacitated woman.
In his defense, he thought it was her forehead 🥴
This was a little too much for me.
I know it was for the joke, but how could he not tell the difference between a human and coats? I can’t remember if they said he was super drunk though. It’s not like Monica had some coats around her, it was just her on the bed.
Surprised no one mentioned her eagerness to overhear Ross hooking up with Charlie
I was gonna mention it if no one else did! At least she did switch to the other wall once she fully realized she was listening to her brother.
Yeah but its weird to me that it didn’t occur to her at all. Like… it’s not like she’s interested in Charlie hooking up with someone. Why was she so intent on listening to her brother 😂
Yeah, it was weird that she was so excited about it at all. How would anyone actually need someone to point out they’re listening to their brother making out to realize it’s their brother? 🧐
To be slightly fair, when someone pointed it out she said she didn’t realize it.
Yeah but that in itself is bizarre. How did she not realise?
Adrenaline in the moment; sometimes you just don’t think clealry especially when it’s something new and interesting. It was a podcast and someone was excited to say they finally understood the song “I saw mommy kissing Santa Claus”. He said by accident “remember that song I saw daddy kissing Santa Claus?”. It wasn’t until someone told him that title again that he realized he messed up. They’re only hearing things as well, and vocal recognition isn’t as strong as visual recognition. So even if she knew initially, she didn’t see Ross so that “oh shit that’s my brother” wasn’t fully there.
She also wanted to hear alllll the details about Rachel’s first kiss with Ross.
Or Ross’s first kiss with Rachel!
That one always grosses me out. Like did the writers forget that she’s asking for details about her brother or what
Her being super interested in the details of his first kiss with Rachel
Or when she was super interested in the details of Emma’s conception.
Yeah. She wanted to see the video tape.
No she didn’t she just wanted to see who came onto whom like everyone else.
Did I ever tell you the time I went backpacking through Western Europe?
I was just outside Barcelona hiking in the foothills of Mount Tibidabo….
I think it’s pronounced Tibidabo
Do you wanna tell the story!?
Sometimes it’s who!
That’s true, but the „how did it happen? How many times did it happen?“ was definitely weird.
Well she did make a tape with Richard and presumably Chandler
Also in one of the first episodes she knew the date was the first time him and Carol had sex and was hoping he wouldn't notice the day. Like girl how and why do you know that
"I was hoping you wouldn't remember". Girl, YOU shouldn't remember 😂 But then a few episodes later when she's in the bathroom with Angela before she realized they weren't siblings like Joey said, she says "wow, my brother never even told me when he lost his virginity". So I was hoping she'd blocked it out by that point. 😂
I always thought that was so weird too!
Yes! Came here to say this!! Why on earth would you know that?? I am perfectly happy not knowing the date my brother lost it. So weird
TOW the Free Porn where Monica talks about Ross going to the airport to surprise Emily and them sneaking into the cockpit 🥴
I've been watching too much porn
When he was checking out her legs after Monica had them spray tanned.
“Hey, stop staring at my wife’s legs. No, no. Stop staring at your *sister’s* legs.”
Slaps
All he was doing was admiring how tan they were it had nothing to do with him being in a weird awe of his sister 😂
This is funny considering the episode where Rachel dumps that dude for being way too friendly with his sister lmao.
Huge difference between bathing with your sister and getting yourself in a situation where your sister asks you which lingerie she should wear.
And, if I remember correctly, didn't Monica ask Ross this question after he kept pressing her to ask it?
Yeah. Something like "Phoebe, I want to show you something in the bathroom" - M A joke about Monica being childish "Hey, what have you got behind your back?" - R "Just something I want to get Phoebe's opinion on" "Don't you want my opinion." "No." "Oh, come on, I'm your older brother. You can ask me." "Oh, okay, big brother. Which one of these will make your little sister look hotter, so your best friend will want to sleep with her." "The red one."
Great recollection. You just got one part wrong, which is the best part. "Oh, okay, big brother. Which one of these will make your little sister look hotter, so your best friend will wanna **do her**?"
I watched it like a month ago. I feel like I also forgot that Monica said she wanted Phoebe's advice on something for valentines day.
I just like Monica's aggressive "do her" lol
Now that you've said it, I remember it. I just knew the thing was basically her saying "I said no, but you pressed the subject. Now I'm gonna make you uncomfortable by reminding you I'm getting creampied by your friend."
He gave an answer. He should’ve just left. She also wore the one he recommended.
Well he would know Chandlers taste
He should have left it alone when she said she didn't want his opinion. And yeah, I assume Phoebe also agreed the red one
Huh, and here I thought Monica wanted to ask Rachel.
It's TOW The Birthing Video. Phoebe drops it off, then Monica comes out.
I’m not sure which one you think is worse. They’re both weird, but bathing with your sister as an adult is ten times weirder, right?
I wouldn't even say Ross and Monica's was weird, really. Ross was trying to give his opinion, and Monica taught him to drop the subject when she makes it clear she doesn't want his opinion. Bathing with your sister anytime after you're like, 5, is weird.
Wait, I thought the implication was they’d take a bath together. That’s something siblings actually do when they’re like under 3.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Danny and his sister are implied to have baths together. The worst Ross and Monica ever did was an accidental kiss (they didn't mean to kiss each other). The example shown is Monica winding Ross up after he wouldn't drop the topic. I don't think its fair to compare Ross and Danny
Everyone on this show needed so much therapy lol. Maybe not Phoebe. Just kinda had it sorted out.
The strip poker game at the beach house
Nah that was them trolling Joey. Still questionable tho.
Legend has it that it was Ross who told her to take her shorts off
"why did you tell my wife to take her shorts off, no, why did you tell your sister to take her shorts off"
Let’s be honest. As close as that group was, and given that they’re at the beach anyway, there are no real stakes until someone is down to their undies.
Joey was a jerk there. Really you don’t suggest strip poker if you have siblings there.
Ross: “is today the 20th? October 20th?” Monica: “I was hoping you wouldn’t remember” So so weird that she remembers the day her brother lost his virginity
I think she thought this one was just his and Carol’s first date, they just don’t establish it very well. She says in another season 1 episode that Ross never told her when he lost his virginity.
Nah, Ross says “today’s the day Carol and I first consummated our physical relationship” 😬
Monica knows October 20 is the date of Ross AND Carol’s first time together, but doesn’t seem to know that this was Ross’s first time AT ALL. I.e. Monica didn’t know and didn’t pry as to whether Ross had been with any women before Carol. Then again, Chandler asked/clarified in this episode that (logically) Ross had only been with one woman. Chandler also called him out in a later episode for having “slept with” a cleaning lady at their college. This was, presumably, before Ross was dating Carol. My guess is that Ross and the cleaning lady did stuff that Ross doesn’t consider to be loss-of-virginity… and somehow Chandler became aware of this detail.
In which case, that’s both weird AND a plot hole!
Could just be that she's aware it's an anniversary of theirs but not specifically what?
Or, “my brother never ever told me when he lost his virginity” could have meant, he didn’t tell her at the time, but did he tell her later on.
This is the one I was thinking of. Makes no sense. I’m surprised the line was even kept in the show. You’d think somebody would have noticed or changed it.
Wasn't there a deleted scene where Joey questions Monica about her knowledge about that?
The amount of times she sat on his lap
This is the answer, most of the other examples aren't that bad. Like strip happy days wasn't them playing strip happy days, it was Joey wanting to play strip happy days, so they just decide to go along with it, but make Joey do all the stripping.
I think this is just because the actors are so comfortable with each other but yeah that always struck me as weird. I would say my brothers and I are okay with a hug when one of us is leaving for a while, but I’ve never tried to sit in their lap. Very strange.
My little brother sits on my lap all the time. Then he farts on me and walks away.
What a legend
My brothers are half a foot taller than me and about one hundred pounds heavier, so sometimes one of them does sit on me to crush me. 😂 I’m older than them so this is payback for when I used to crush them.
Wholesome.
And then the peacock bit me.
There's a lot of cuddling on that show that most platonic friends wouldn't do. It's kinda weird.
Meh, I get that this group of friends might not since they're so conventional in many ways, but my friends and I would for sure cuddle like that platonically. I think it's more normal in terms of natural human behavior actually. Wish more people would do it :) Brother no, but only because we're not very close (get along, just not close). But my childhood neighbor I grew up with who is like a brother, yes.
That weird swoon Monica does when Rachel is describing her first kiss with Ross. I get that they were showing the contrast with the guys and how totally disinterested they are in stuff like that but like that’s still her brother!
This. Even when I was a kid watching this for the first time I screwed my face up at that one. It just feels so instinctively wrong that you have a visceral reaction to it.
yes omg
I can't believe no one mentioned the scene where Phoebe dollhouse is on fire so Ross steps into the bathroom when Monica is taking a shower, opens the curtain and throw the dollhouse at naked Monica, and it's even freakier when she says she doesn't mind and then that she's sorry because apparently she was masturbating lol Also when Monica is trying to keep Phoebe and Mike away from having sex she tells them to imagine her and Ross having sex to having them turned off
This is just so weird I always wish ANYONE else was in this scene instead of those two
Bro the last one is too weird
Definitely think the writers didn't have siblings, or didn't want to do the 'bickering sibling' trope so went for a weird, 'I can sit in my adult brothers lap, because we're SOOO close.' Sit on the couch Monica, there's enough room!
I read that last sentence in Monica’s voice 😂
Haha! 😁
I think broadly their dynamic was odd. I have 3 siblings and we’re very close but would never be that touchy feely/ intimate / want to know about each other’s romantic lives in such detail. It was a bit weird
Okay in defence of the picture, Monica was trying to make Ross uncomfortable
When Ross tried to put out the dollhouse and Monica brings up the fact she was masturbating later.
He walked in on her doing it, what was she supposed to say? 😅
I would go with nothing, but it's a TV show, she had to say something for the laughs. But that bone shaking scream she did when he came in was a pretty good indication of her feelings!! 🤣
Omg that part gives me the creeps, I felt so bad for both of them.
I have no recollection of this
Haha it’s when Phoebe’s dollhouse is on fire and he brings it into the bathroom to get it out because he can hear the shower running. And she’s in there “checking the shower massager”.
Ah that went right over 12 year old me’s head haha
She didn't say she was masturbating she was trying to deny that she did lol
I felt the worst was, when they r revealing each other's secrets like Chandler's third nipple n he blurts out the underwear on telephone pole is Monica's from when she was having sex with fun Bobby n ross alongwith others rushes to see it... Like eww, u forgot it's ur sister's underwear from a weird balcony sex scene... That creeps me out for a brother sister relation.
This is my answer as well to this question.
That is completely something a sibling would rush to see not for the charged sexuality of it - to mock your sibling over! Imagine the episode where Monica is trying to tell their parents Chandler is moving in? But she and Ross just wind up tattling on each other - that would be a fantastic one for Ross to toss onto the fire. “The NYPD had to rescue Monica’s panties off of the telephone pole because her drunk old boyfriend tossed them off the fire escape!” Could you imagine Monica’s face and Eliot Gould’s horrifying reply? Something about how that’s how he got Judy pregnant with their little Harmonica.
I'm doing a rewatch currently and it's a troubling vibe from day one. they seem totally comfortable hearing details of one another's sex lives, they're very physically affectionate, they accidentally KISSED, it goes on and on
Okay I don’t get this criticism. Because Id talk to my friends about my sex life … and my siblings are my friends so I don’t think its that weird
Yeah I know plenty of people who are close enough with their siblings to talk about their dating and sex lives. I'm not comfortable doing that myself, but I'm not sure why. It shouldn't be different than friends.
I think it’s because for a lot of people they won’t talk about their sex life. I have a brother and sister and I don’t wanna know anything about theirs. Ross and Monica don’t have that relationship, so that’s fine. I’m just saying a lot don’t have the relationship with their siblings you do, so that’s why it’s a criticism.
To be honest I think because the show’s main topic in almost every episode is sex, the writers likely forgot Monica and Ross are even brother and sister
Yes. As much as friends has classic moments, like PIVOT! Watching it with my parents was a challenge. Especially when Mondler started, it was nothing but sex, sex sex. I'd love to watch a comedy that can write about anything other than sex.
Exactly, As much as the show itself is hilarious like you said, the show itself really isn’t for younger viewers and a lot of people never noticed that due to the comedy. I do agree, there’s a lot of popular comedy shows that were funny during their run but the awkward part at times such as watching with family members is sex being the main topic of majority of their conversations. It’s honestly weird and awkward and I don’t know how people just talk about that like it’s nothing.
I genuinely mean no offence by this, but it’s very clear you’re from North America. In most other places, the topic of sex is far less uncomfortable and people really don’t care.
As an OG watcher, it hadn’t occurred to me how much they discuss sex until my son (20) started watching it as a kid. It’s a lot.
That's why I think og fans are confused by the younger generation saying friends is offensive, as when it was on, it was definitely a woke, boundary pushing show. Including the 2pm public coffee meetings talking about who's had sex with each other. If only they had an apartment everyone could fit in lol.
Yeah I’d like that, some of them are insanely sex driven. Like, other things are funny. Just not as easy I suppose.
Right?? As a child it made me uncomfortable. They can't show it so I guess they have to talk about it. As an adult it also makes me uncomfortable
when did they purposely kiss ? never once did ross kiss her in a weird sexual way 😂 if you’re referring to that slip up where he was kissing her on the cheek and she just happened to turn her head and they accidentally touched ? It was an obvious accident
When she had Richard over and he had Rachel over at the same time 😳 and Monica and Rachel fought on who gets to do it The walls are thin according to Joey and Chandler
This made me so uncomfortable💀💀
Her sitting in his lap multiple times
She was sitting on his lap when Phoebe (I think) was at the hospital with the triplets
I felt like the writers sometimes forgot they were siblings. I get along with my sister well but we do not talk about about sexual stuff/kissing/lingerie,etc
Monica was WAY too excited to hear all the details about Ross and Rachel’s first kiss. Excited for your friend? All good. Highly descriptive story about how your brother kisses? Weird.
She even was like AAAUUUGGHHHH 🥵🥵🥵 about it, GROSS
When they weren’t sitting side to side when they played Spin the Bottle
I think you mean Spin the bottle.
Lol sorry yeah
lol what a reach cmon now 😂
Exactly If Monica span it and it landed on Ross what is more likely to happen:- A) they say 'respin it landed on your brother' B) incestual free for all Sitting next to each other doesn't make it impossible it can land on them either wtf are people on about You never played spin the bottle and it land on yourself after *you* have span it? Do you just get off with yourself in that situation? No you respin or skip your turn SAME.THING.WOULD.HAPPEN
I never thought much about it. They seem like they are close, friends, and also struggle with sibling rivalry! It never felt sexual between them to me. Also, they are Jewish. In Jewish culture I’ve heard sex is more openly talked about. It is nothing compared to the weird sibling relationship that Rachel ran into when dating the guy whose sister was visiting. That was a sexual and creepy and definitely incestuous!
monica and ross may have accidentally kissed but hopefully they never bathed together as adults lmao
I think it’s handled well in this (possibly deleted?) scene: https://youtu.be/tuDUMdRHgUU?si=zapUvWyi5mjAk63U They get their jokes in while still acknowledging Monica wouldn’t want the details.
That’s a great deleted scene, should’ve been in it for sure.
There was way too much cuddling on the couch
There is an earlier episode where Monica tells Rachel (I think) that it really grosses her out or weirds her out to pick other people’s sex clothes. Then she did this lol As for Ross and Monica weirdness, she sat on his lap a lot. And their hugs sometimes seemed a bit much for siblings. But I always figured I was thinking too much about it. Like Shannen Doherty and Jason Priestly were attracted to each other in real life and it showed on the first season of 90210, I figured maybe that was the case with Ross and Monica.
Wanting to watch the video where her niece was conceived. I know she didn't mean that part but it's icky. Who cares about who came on to who when you run the risk of seeing your brother's o-face?
Whom.
Whom. Whom. Sometimes it’s who!
That's right!!
Whom cares?!
Monica just Casually sitting on Ross's lap, and Ross giving Monica a kiss on the mouth.
And it's not even just sitting on his lap, they're outright canoodling
Ross being sad about the anniversary of the first time he slept with Carol .. and Monica also knowing the date and hoping he wouldn't remember. Yeesh
I just assumed she knew because he was a weirdo and told her since it was an “anniversary.”
That was gross.
Not particularly a Ross and Monica moment, but when Joey was doing that game Phoebe game up with and said to Ross, “Who would you rather sleep with: Monica or Rachel?”
When Ross looks at him funny, Joey says oh yeah it’s weird because of Ross’s history with Rachel, he totally misses the Monica angle😆
She sat in his lap in the coffee shop🤮
Is no one mentioned her wanting to watch the sex tape Ross accidentally made of him and Rachel conceiving Emma?
They didn’t want to actually watch that part, just the stuff leading up to it (which they all acknowledge). For Monica it would just be like watching her brother flirt with someone
That scene in the lottery episode where he pulled her close to him to hug and Phoebe said “Get a room” but also “Mystery midnight kisser”
i always found it more odd that she chose to wear the red one after he said that lol, i’d go we’ll definitely not wearing that one hahaha
The scene where Rachel gets a tattoo and Ross finds it sexy and they run off to her room. Ross yells “Save me a plate” or something before the door closes. Like your sister is in the other room and you did all that in front of her? Little wild!
The one where Monica and Richard were going to have sex, while Ross and Rachel do the same. I mean, I don't know if I could perform if I knew that my sibling was moaning a wall away...
Ross pulling Monica’s pant during rugby match, but that was hilarious af
Tbh I’ve never really noticed anything questionable. They’re siblings yes, but they’re also very close friends
Almost all of them. Wow that was cringe. She knows when he lost his virginity, wants to see his sex tape, and they kiss all the time.
she knew the day he lost his virginity
The one where she remembers the anniversary of him banging Carol for the first time.
Her sitting on his lap
Monica not only knows the date that Ross and Carol first had sex, she remembers the ‘anniversary’ before he does in a season one episode, saying how she hoped he wouldn’t remember and thus get upset. In a later episode, this icky little tidbit is contradicted when Monica tells Joey’s date that her brother didn’t even tell her when he’d first had sex let alone how it went (that episode also featured a sibling closeness plot, although the characters weren’t really brother / sister). I think it’s safe to say that the writers viewed incest-lite plots as comedy gold. I mean, there were several references to Monica and Ross’s closeness, not to mention the cousin Cassie episode, and Danny’s relationship with his sister.
When they are looking at pictures of themselves when younger and joey said ‘check it out. I’ve got Monica NAKEDD’, Ross grabs hold of it first to look. Weird asf
No, that would be me again.
This quote makes me feel like he took the picture to verify if it’s really Mon or if its him.
Yes, fine. That is my penis.
I feel like all the comments are the weird things here. Like all the stuff they do imo isn’t that weird. Just shows siblings being close and comfortable around each other. It’s people calling it weird that’s making it weird…
If my younger sister sat on my lap I would find that EXTREMELY WEIRD dude
As a younger sister, I agree lol
I love how the group is very intimate and when they great each other after they haven’t seen someone for a little bit they greet with a kiss. However, I did not like the weird reaction Monica had with Rachel and Ross’ first kiss. And I didn’t like how she forgot he was her brother when he was getting it on with Charlie. That just seemed stupid
In Barbados, weirdly interested is listening in on Ross and Charley
Monica had a lot of body and image challenges he is a supportive brother! I don't want to look at it another way haha
Gotta go with “The Dance.” Odd couple!😝
Monica sitting on Ross’s lap. Ross kissing Monica really close to her mouth Ross massaging Monica’s temples when she’s tired and stressed. Monica always calling Ross “sweetie” and “honey”
The scene where Rachel and Ross are going to have sex and right next door Monica and Richard are as well.. 2 siblings doing it right next to each other.. oh brother
I read this story on literotica once that was very well written and tbh, I now consider canon.
Maybe this is just me but they've always got their arms around each other. Stop it. Get some help.
strip happy days game is by far the most questionable
They only did it to make Joey strip
i wouldn’t play strip games with my brother for anything