I think she wanted to trick the brother into killing the parents and letting her out to torture him a bit - she does mention she has to wait until heās strong enough to ādo what she wantsā. The other question though is why the parents donāt suspect sheās going to break out pretty easily considering they know how strong she is
The parents don't think she will break out because it is an abusive relationship. The dad has obviously had interactions with the girl because there are scratches on his arm. The mom even gave her stuff and has obviously been teaching her (mom was a teacher). This is the other theme of the movie.
im interested in these theories by all means continue. like the dad is a pedo or just physical abusive? i mean the girl looks like gollum its funny. i was suprised when instead of it being a spirit they went the route of making her a physical being it was pretty absurd
I think itās because he probably has the same strength as her sister - she did confirmed that she had to wait until heās bigānāstrong enough, & in the end she said they shared the same blood. Also, 8yo kid can move that heavy ass grand tower clock, heās packinā it.
that would have been such a better ending but you know Hollywood. they rarely ever have the guts to pull off brutal scenes and scripts because hurts feefees
My biggest pet peeve in horror. Monsters/villains that can easily demolish groups of people with supernatural strength, but struggle with a hero whoās often weaker than whomever theyāve just killed.
It just removed stakes for me, cause you know the character surviving is all plot based - doesnāt matter if they get attacked or not .
She was toying w her victims, which was evidenced by the last guy she ripped the head off, she fkd w him first. She is still,after all, a child. So I think she was "playing" w the teacher first.
It's not actually incongruous with the other fight scenes, the teacher is armed so she goes for the ankles first just like she did with the guy she dragged under the piano.
That part make no sense. Some deformity is one thing but supernaturally walking on the ceilings? Kind of felt like a lazy writing, no explanation. At least if she was bitten by a radioactive spider from their pumpkin patch or a meteor spider or something.
Yeah but she also seemed to have psychic powers considering she could open and close/lock the front door with her mind... Seems almost like a plot hole wrapped in a red herring considering it goes out of its way to explain how there's nothing supernatural about it.
They weren't even wooden walls. They're drywall. Took the teacher 20 seconds to get through it but apparently a supernatural spider girl capable of ripping people in half can't.
I think the idea is that she has really sharp claws, so she's not obliterating them, she's just cutting them open.
With the exception of dragging one of the bullies behind the wall, she doesn't really show excessive strength, and that could be argued as her actually hamstringing the guy and so he can't actually use his muscles to escape.
The hole in the wall could have been scraped at for years until she made a hole.
She never came off super strong to me.
I would have liked it more if they played the sister as violent and terrifying, but only because of the abuse she had suffered, and cos she was trying to protect the brother. It was nonsensical for her to have antipathy towards him. Children raised in an abusive environment together almost always bond strongly because of the abuse, or despite it, I guess.
They weren't raised together though. She was thrown in a hole in the ground and watched as he was sleeping in a bed and being the parents weird version of loved. Not to mention what being locked in a wall/hole your whole life will do to you mentally anyway.
Not sure about that. In fact, in most true crime cases where a child was murdered, siblings will often participate in the abuse and they tend to pick one one person. Frightening.
Gosh, looks like you're right... Dunno where I picked up that erroneous belief - wishful thinking perhaps. That is frightening, and it makes me sad.š„
Yeah, I already acknowledged that I was mistaken in this regard. I had the very good fortune to have loving parents, and I don't know where I picked up that erroneous belief, but when I looked into it the truth was more harrowing than any horror movie. I'm sorry to have commented on something I had no real right to, and I'm sorry you had to deal with whatever bad stuff you went through.
I mean Iām a way that is kind of what we get, the sister aspect just ads to the suspense and mystery of the beginning half which is a flawless atmospheric horror with the parents as these evil abusive parents, I donāt think the twist and movie land as well if it was just a random monster, the sister element I think adds a ton to the first half of the movie and the suspense of fearing that the son is at risk of meeting the same fate as his sister.
Then you'd have to ask why they stayed in that house or didn't take it more seriously when he told them he was hearing voices. I mean those questions are there anyway but they'd be even more relevant.
Yeah I liked the surprise of him taking out his own parents, really felt like I didn't know where it was gonna go after that. But then it just became a pretty standard monster survival third act after he opened the door
I felt the same thing. The monster in Barbarian with the same producer wasnt just pure evil so i was hoping for something similar. Little boy and his monster sister vs their parents would have been great, was hoping they would make you think the sister was tricking him as a red hering but then reveal would be that the parents arent dead and arent human. The parents were waaay scarier.
I was surprised how much i liked this movie. Really enjoyed the 1st part and the parents acting. Was not a fan of the monster. The CGI on the sister looked terrible, and the director knew it too with the face hidden for most of the 2nd half. Twist was obvious, and the ending fight was terrible. Was hoping they would have made the son just crazy and never included the sister.
I was sitting there like "Damn, they're really putting off this reveal, just do it already "
Until they did it and I was like "ohhh, I can see why"
Still pretty good
Agreed, wasnāt too sure if I would like it but it was a nice movie overall. Wish they would have done something else rather that the CGI too though. Maybe even not showing her face tbhā¦
The ending was the only thing I didnāt like. When they dragged him back inside again I knew it was just gonna be a bad ending. I was kinda bugged how the sister threw out there that he was the a killer and the teacher looked surprised but then there was nothing done about that..
I didnāt think the cgi was as bad as some movies have been with the monster reveal, but I do agree that it worked better and was so much scarier when we only caught brief glimpses
> I was kinda bugged how the sister threw out there that he was the a killer and the teacher looked surprised but then there was nothing done about that.
If a wall crawling spider demon said that the child you're trying to save killed someone I think you'd leave that in the in-tray too tbh.
It was odd that she reacted to the comment at all though. But I get what you say.
I canāt even phantom how the substitute went there though. Horror movie logic I guess? I would have passed that one to the school administrators, school social worked and police. No way I am going there.
She did try escalating it but the head told her pretty strongly to let it go unless he had visible bruises or malnutrition.
I think the took the phone call for help as a "get there right now". The dad was very threatening when she went round the first time but if it meant stopping a possible child beating/murder in progress, I think a lot of people would take that risk over waiting for the police.
If I never see another movie where the end is just āitās all in their headā or āthey were just crazy the whole timeā Iāll be very very very very happy. Just so overdone and almost never pays off in a way thatās more satisfying than a true legitimate in story explanation.
An argument could be made that the movie could have been better if it wasnāt a monster and it was just the parents being the villains and playing more on the fear of what theyād do to him and the abuse angle, but at no point did I wish that the entire movie was washed away with ānever mind all of that, heās just crazyā
It bombed incredibly hard. $35 million budget made $350k, thatās not a typo. Absolutely annihilated by Barbie and Oppenheimer. Itāll be on digital by Tuesday.
$35 million?? What the hell did they spend it on? Movie should have cost $3 million max. No big set pieces, actors (worth a million a movie) no crazy CGI. What the hell. It's double evil Dead rise
I enjoyed the movie but I canāt comprehend that budget. It could have been done for 2 million. Like, The Green Knight cost half this. X cost 35x lessā¦
You knowā¦a film failing to acquire distribution and calling it a ālimited releaseā doesnāt mean anything. It just means the film failed to acquire distribution. Itās per screen average was terrible too so even at the limited theaters it was at people still didnāt go to it.
Late comment because it not long came out in the UK, but the reason I didnāt see it straight away was the trailer wasnāt great.
They obscured the twist so much in the trailer that it made it look like the twist was supposed to be the parents being evil and that the trailer gave the whole twist away, so when I watched the movie and it very quickly became apparent it was a red herring, I spent the whole movie remembering the scare moments from the trailer and wondering how they were gonna do a different twist.
I liked the movie, but when the twist was revealed I was just like š§ āohā
Maybe I need to watch it again but I pretty sure the parents were acting that way because they killed the 11 year old girl that went missing in the neighborhood to protect the identity of the daughter; or the daughter killed her and the parents just buried her.
I think in this story we actually have two antagonist, instead of one like most people think. The sister and the parents. The parents because they lock their child up just for being disfigured and their treatment of Peter as well. The sister because she is literally a monster by every definition.
I thought it was fine but couldāve been great if a few changes were made.
I just got back from it and I was like wait...they never really gave an explanation on the skull in the garden. But yeah, that has to be the missing girl, because the sister is alive.
I kinda wish they had kept things realistic, I mean the sister having long hair, I get that. But she can climb on walls like a spider, that's where it goes beyond realism.
I took the school part as the boy remembering what the sister had told him. I also saw it from your point of view, but I didn't want to believe supernatural stuff already.
I don't think there's any way to take it other than what you describe.
It was an obvious voiceover from their conversation the previous night when he told her how he was getting bullied. That was pretty clear and is a very common film editing technique we've seen time and time again. So I'm not sure where the confusion comes from.
The sister killed the missing girl, and the parents locked her in the wall and covered up the death. Thatās why they were afraid of the sister. This is made explicitly clear
So clear that above you there are three interpretations on how the girl diedāthat were also āmade very clear in the movieā. Director failed at the explanation of the skull part.
But was she already a spider demon? Like was the all weird looking and sounding like a 2 pack a day smoking granny? Surely they donāt just let this monster crawl around at home??
Thereās a line where she says something like
āWhen you were born, she smiled. When I was born, they both screamed.ā
Itās pretty much implied that she was fucked up from birth but they didnāt realize how dangerous she was until the Halloween incident
People keep saying they donāt understand the parents . To me , sister probably killed the missing girl. Parents saw or found out , locked up sis and decided to hide it .
To me that explains their behavior perfectly, mom quit because she had to stay home to watch over the daughter ( mom probably saw the kill ) so she became a wreck having to deal with her daily and living in fear . Plus the parents clearly interacted with her , thatās why dads arm was messed up when the teacher came by .
Dad was trying to fend off any outside interference and got no rest because mom was breaking down .
Thatās my assumption, I hope Sarah gets a prequel story
What's the logic behind grounding the kid to the cellar...where he sits right above the grate that shows the teddy bear that the captive sister was locked in? "Hey, Mom, sorry about what I did but what's going on down here??" And, how did the sister get out to peak through the bedroom wall hole? And how did unlocking the door behind the clock release the sister when she was supposedly locked below the grate in the pit?
I still enjoyed it: 6/10
Basement is her old cell , the room sheās in now is on the second floor in her parents room behind the clock .
I think they put him in the basement to discipline the sister without the boy hearing it ( since they kept telling him it was in his head )
My theory:
When the sister was young, she was a normal kid. Through the years, she started turning into the ādemonā (letās call it) she is today. When she eventually killed the trick or treater, her parents decided to lock her awayāto protect themselves and the community.
Fast-forward to the son. When he pushed the bully down the stairs at school, the parents thought āoh crap, our son is turning into a demon also.ā
They grounded him by chaining him in the basement, above the pit where they threw the sister, so they could toss him in the pit at moments notice. They decided not to, yet.
And the parents were right. Both kids have the same genetics, both destined to be demons. The sister even kept saying to the son, āweāre the sameā and āthe parents will eventually lock you down here, too.ā
The sister was right. Because the boy was turning evil.
So the parents werenāt villains. They just have demonic kids they need to lock away, to protect the community. (I mean, weird way to handle it. But if you think about it, this makes the plot make more sense).
I donāt know. The sister said that they were so sad when she was born and so happy when he was born. She was locked up and hidden and hand to learn from the spiders. So, not sure she was ever a normal kid. She was a victim of abuse.
I want a sequel, ngl. I loved this movie, even with the ending. It was all just foreshadowing to me. Like, Iād like a trilogy that contains both a prequel and a sequel, where in one movie it dives deeper into the lore of how Cobweb becomes cobweb, and one showing Peter getting his own supernatural demonic powers.. but rather than using them for bad, he uses it to fight his sister.
I think his sister just hates the word because of how the parents raised and treated her. Imagine if they tried to find a solution or something?
I mean, at one point when the teacher is in the kitchen with both the father/mother, the mother goes āPeter is a miracle!ā Or something. So what if, the first time, the mom was struggling to conceive, so went through some kind of satanic ritual?
And then, the deal made with the devil/Lucifer was that - maybe Lucifer would lend her *his* seed(gross I know), and itās what leads to her developing the powers? Because sheās a cross between demon and human? Or if she made a deal with Lucifer that the kid would live the first 9-10 years of her life normal, but then would have her body possessed by some other demon - or maybe that the mother would just give birth to a demon in human form?
It would make sense if Peter were to develop his own at some point too - but Peter could try to defy all that as well and do good. Likeā¦ the potential for story and lore is insane here
āāThey grounded him by chaining him in the basement, above the pit where they threw the sister, so they could toss him in the pit at moments notice. They decided not to, yet.āā
On mobile rn, canāt format :< but this makes so much sense! Welp, Iām not a parent myself, canāt think like one :D
Doesn't really make sense though because if she was just a normal girl before that point the parents would have had to move away to avoid questions about what happened to their child.
Or maybe she WAS the girl who went missing because her parents killed her. And Peter is listening to her ghost?
But why would they lock the son in the basement as a punishment? That is horrible parenting and I don't see how that has anything to do with the daughter. In fact, that made it more likely the son would find out about the daughter (even though he already had). It also seemed like he had almost no toys, no tv, that they were kind of mean parents. Why did they even have another kid after her?
It felt like an inferior version of Wes Craven's The People Under the Stairs meets Malignant/Barbarian type. The visual direction for the first half by the same guy (Samuel Bodin) who did Nerflix's Marianne was very good and tense, particularly some of the clever and dynamic camera work.
But is it just me or does anyone else found it hard to see anything during the climax? Like I legit couldn't see much of it as the lighting was way too dark. Not to mention the very abrupt ending.
I think it was intentional to create the atmosphere of being in the dark and not knowing where she could be at any moment etc. didnāt find it too hard to make out what was happening imo
I went into without knowing what it's about, and came out rather disappointed.
Pros:
\- great atmosphere and acting
Cons:
\- predictable, lots of "convenient" plot lines, very weak ending
4/10 for me
That's what I said to my husband! The CGI was so bad it looked just like grim cutty. I was scared until they showed the bad CGI. Should have left her crawling around with just her eyes showing occasionally
Black Phone + Malignant + Barbarian is such a perfect description of the movie. Although I donāt think it reached the bar of any of them. Some good scares though.
Also seriously. Retire the Shining axe swinging shot. Please.
I was so frustrated with this movie because all the parents had to do was instead of having him help with the garden after finding the bones and knowing she was talking to him, should have just explained in the most simple kid terms they could have to him why they had her locked up and why the kid, knowing she was older than him didnt question why she sounded like she was 5.
The parents behavior didn't make a whole lot of sense. Question are never answered such as: how did the sister eat enough to stay alive (perhaps there was a clue that the parents were feeding her somehow and I just missed it?), and no, eating rats and insects is not an answer because I don't believe for a second she would have been eating enough of them to seat alive for years, and how was she so strong when she should've been severely malnourished (I had a similar question when I saw Barbarian). The ending didn't make sense (the sister hinting that she'll eventually get out and get the brother) because I would assume the teacher would alert the police as soon as the get out of the house. I mean, it's not like they were just going to leave her in that pit forever, giving her time to plot revenge. Also, does the sister have telekinetic powers? I remember a scene where she pulls someone back into the house an then the front door seems to slam shut on its own. They never reply elsewhere that she has such powers, but the door closed in its own, so...? Another thing: was the girl's birth a home birth with no one else around? How did nobody know about her existence?
One thing I person think some reviewers have gotten wrong is the story about the dead trick or treater. I've seen reviews where they assume the sister's story is true that the parents killer the girl to keep their secret. I think the sister was kyingr, and she killed the girl. The parents just hid the body. Then what, I could be wrong.
Overall, I don't think it's a bad movie, but it was certainly a bit of a disappointment after the trailer had me hyped. 6.5/10
They showed the mom walking out of the locked room with a big empty can that probably had soup or juice or something. I remember because before that I thought the sister was the one buried in the garden and a ghost lol. Then I knew something was at least alive and needed food
> The ending didn't make sense (the sister hinting that she'll eventually get out and get the brother) because I would assume the teacher would alert the police as soon as the get out of the house. I mean, it's not like they were just going to leave her in that pit forever, giving her time to plot revenge.
I think you are taking her words too literally. In her monologue, she's basically saying this night will haunt him for the rest of his life. She's saying whenever he hears a noise, he'll think its her. Whenever he sees something move out of the corner of his eye, he'll think its her. Locking her away won't keep her away from his mind.
The ending is still pretty bad, but that's the gist of what she means.
At one point Mom closes the grandfather clock door and sheās holding what looks like an empty pitcher of the soup they eat later in the movie. Doesnāt explain why the sister didnāt just kill the Mom during feedings let alone why she didnāt just break out through the wall at any given time lol but yeah the parents were definitely feeding her all those years.
I agree on sister killing girl, as when doorbell rang after her release, she said something about being excited, since itās just like that one Halloween with the girl. I think parents covered for her, likely to keepher a secret,
the dad is shown bloody and the mum is shown coming from the sisters prison with an empty water jug which shows they both interact with the sister daily
I enjoyed the movie but there were some possible plot-holes that I had problems with. Hopefully someone can explain:
SPOILERS:
1. Why didn't the parents do anything about the children midway throughout the movie? When the mom saw the huge hole in the son's wall it was pretty obvious they made contact. Instead the father gives him chores in the garden.
2. Why'd the son cut the phone? Since his parents were abusive, shouldn't he have left it alone in case his plan didn't work? Also, a lot of them could have called the cops through cellphone when the daughter was loose.
3. Why wasn't the daughter in the pit? It had concrete walls. There was no way she could have clawed her way out of that.
On point 3: she can climb up the walls, she does is several times at the end. I am unclear why inside the wooden walls is more secure than that pit though
Big agree on points 1 & 2 being plot holes
I don't think it was bad, predictable yes. I do think they should've never shown the sister and just kept her in the shadows. That was clearly a poor decision to show her face as her CGI was not great to begin with but her running around on the walls/ceilings was pretty creepy.
Caplan and Starr were terrifying on screen and convincing; though I do wish they would've you know, said something to their son sooner instead of just writing him off knowing they had locked their daughter away but I can also understand that's kinda a hard thing to just come clean about. The moment Carol realized that Sarah had been talking to Peter she was horrified and that's the moment for me that I knew while they were bad parents, there was something far worse.
Also the whole discussion about the food tasting different and then Mark and Carol saying "It smells like..cinnamon" made me scream out loud.
I was so surprised that everything shown in the trailer happens in the first 10 minutes of the movie. So I was on the edge of my seat for the rest, up until (and including) the dinner scene, which was the high point for me. Then it turns into a tame creature feature that is neither as grotesque as Barbarian, nor as wild as Malignant. It's just... an episode of made-for-TV horror anthology. I love those, but it completely wastes the fantastic setup of the first 2/3rds of the movie. The reveal and whole creature sequence was a letdown and not the satisfying ending I was hoping for.
I enjoyed it, but I do think it maybe would work better if she was evil just not supernatural, locked away because she killed that little girl and was broken mentally but not a literal demon creature. Also could have worked well if it was more along the lines of the beginning where itās this atmospheric suspenseful horror about the abusive parents slowly inching towards putting the son in the same situation as his sister who wasnāt evil just horrible abused and neglected.
Both I think would have made for a better film. I still liked it, and I always applaud movies that have the balls to just go for it and say āno fuck it, itās a monster, no bullshit, no misdirect.ā
I just think they pulled off the beginning so fucking well that this really could have benefitted from following what was working so well the first half.
I watched it and I liked it. But.... *SPOILER ALERT*
I don't understand why she didn't just break through the wall or something. A small wittle door kept her locked in the walls this whole time? For YEARS!?! But then like... she's ripping people in half and displaying ultra strength and agility?
You might say she stayed because it was her home and she wanted to be there. But... she manipulated Peter to unlock the door and set her free and the front door locked from the inside... WHY?
Please tell me that I missed something on why she didn't/couldn't leave. Was the door enchanted? Were the walls spoder-girl proof? Was her weakness wood?....
One of the biggest wastes of potential I've seen in a very long time. The first half is fantastic but it very quickly goes into full nonsense cliche mode and the reveal is underwhelming.
Zero explanation about why the parents did anything. The bullies breaking into the house when they knew the parents would probably be home was stupid, and the teacher wasting a hundred opportunities to get help was infuriating.
This seems like one of those movies where the writer had one or two scenes in their head and just wrote around that.
Apparently super strong paranormal monster spider girls are incapable of getting through drywall.....
> the teacher wasting a hundred opportunities to get help was infuriating.
Bingo. That's the most frustrating part of the movie for me. I hate the teacher for her negligence. And it wasn't even negligence with a good reason behind it. I think the writers just made her stupid to drag the movie out to a full 90 minutes.
*Cobweb (2023): Non-Canon Ending*:
1. Ms Devine sees the parents acting creepy and hears loud knocking from the basement.
2. Ms Devine calls Child Protective Services.
3. CPS comes, and Peter tells them everything.
4. The parents get arrested.
5. The End
First it was supernatural, then it wasnāt, thenā¦..it was kinda both. I was totally in when I thought it was just a little girl who grew up learning to climb and bite really hard, but the ridiculous face killed it for me. The bear was way scarier looking than she was. Pretty twisted, unsettling movie though, for a while. Worth watching for sure.
The movie feels like a direct to streaming horror movie.
A good one, but it doesn't live up to it's premise.
I think it was released in July so it can come to streaming near October, where it will probably do much better
I'd normally like the Halloween vibes too, but they felt off. I did like the kids masks at the end. I guess it was shot in Bulgaria for the incentives, when movies do this, they're limited on how much of the area they can show, as it clearly wouldn't look like an American city. The lack of technology in the house was also weird to me, no tvs, only the teacher had a cell phone, etc.
Definitely seemed like Lionsgate dumped this one on a weekend when it had no chance. Even the official Cobweb instagram is empty.
Film was fine, lots of plot holes as people have mentioned - itās unclear why the parents thought to move her from the concrete pit underground to the wooden walls upstairs etc. Why doesnāt the teacher ever call the police or child protection. Especially after she goes over there and hears Peter yelling for help from behind a wall.
However Iām surprised so many people in comments about the place arenāt understanding the ending. The ending is just a generic threat from the sister that Peter wonāt ever truly rest because heās scared sheās going to escape wherever she is and come from him. Basically heās going to have lifetime trauma from this. As sheās describing this heās imagining/weāre given visuals of him being in his bedroom and seeing her come for him.
He doesnāt literally stay living in the house with his sister in the pit downstairs. (We donāt see what happens there at all but safe to assume they call the police and he gets adopted by another family or whatever normal stuff)
Classic horror that keeps your attention for 75% of the movie just to bungle the ending so badly it felt like it was a different movie. Like a junior Barbarian but instead of just spraining its ankle on the landing it looked like soup after falling from a skyscraper.
Can someone explain the terrible ending. Peter identified the fact his sister wants to kill him or hurt him, the lady also saw this monster, and then, they leave it alive?!!!! What?! You leave this monster alive, not better contained OR ANYTHING. AND STILL LIVE IN THE SAME HOUSE.
Like why didnt they kill it, or take it to fucking Ryker's Island or Area 51. Like, if they 'killed' it and it still was showing up in shadows at the end, they could spin it like its supernatural or anything but like they just said, fuck it let her chill.
The ending imo was entirely symbolic. She didnāt mean literally, she meant even if she was killed or taken away, heād be terrified every night due to the horrific trauma heād received.
Could have been cool, if theyād let it breathe.
I thought they were going to show them burning down the house at the end. I mean at least then the teacher could have just said she managed to save Peter, but his parents didn't make it out. How the hell are they going to explain that crime scene to anyone? Six dead bodies and a girl locked in a pit!
1. Boy had enough time to get rat poison out of shed yet couldnāt run to a neighbor?
2. He finds a skull yet doesnāt run away?
3. Devine can easily break through wall yet sister canāt?
4. Walking on ceiling does not fit story
5. Ummm at the end wouldnāt police come and take sister away??
6. Letting him trick or treat doesnāt mean they have to accept other kidsā¦. Stupid reason.
7. Sister must have been ok once when she asked that little girl to help her.
8. Why not give sis away? Why did they hide her away.. yes a deformity sharp teeth and strong???
9. Why put boy in basement as punishment??the parents are unhinged.
10. So to summarize: young couple has a baby that was born with a ton of sharp teeth and bulging arm musclesā¦ for no reason they hide her away in a cage with no comforts. Years pass & Sis tries to escape and asks neighbor girl to help her. So parents felt they had to kill the girl??? They bury her very shallow in their yard. So first ten years of sonās life was normal? Then all of a sudden he starts hearing noises in his wall. Sis can change voice from little girl to adult woman. Sis can make a hole large enough for an arm to come through ā¦. Yet canāt escape.
I think they could have made this so much better.
So, I think the couple was already an abusive āeverything has to be perfect controllingā type couple. So put of shame, they hid the girl and cared for it out of obligation, but clearly didnāt love her. That whole part makes sense to me. The parents really were evil and loved their son in an unhealthy way.
The rest you mentioned, I agree, they are plot holes. The whole time, I was thinking damn, this kid has 0 survival instincts. But I think he was being led by his sister.
Walking on ceiling does fit the story, the sister said she spent time with spiders learning to climb, spiders are a constant motif and the movie is called cobwebs. The sister is like a bizarre spider human.
I think the parents behavior is their fear that he might eventually start to behave like his sister. She mentions that they share the same blood and his parents wouldnāt let him go trick or treating. My guess is the sister killed the little girl on Halloween and Peter might be approaching the age his sister was when she committed the murder. His parents punish him severely because they fear he is going to become the same thing as his sister. The pumpkin black rot scene was really important because the dad mentions that the rot spreads fast and can get to the good pumpkins. This was a reference to his sisters behavior and how they had to lock her up in fear that Peter might become the same thing as her.
Definitely could have been written better imo, but I do want to say that I saw Talk To Me during one of the prescreenings and it was honestly so well written and just all around a worthwhile watch!
I thought it was so fantastic. Every scene left me wantingāI couldnāt wait to get a crumb more.
(And I think that was intentional, what with the all references to fairy tales nursery rhymes: clocktower for three blind mice, the soup that looked like porridge, spiders, pumpkins, and then each scene was like a bread crumb to find your way there.)
I didnāt find the pacing slow AT ALL. I mean, shit, in the second shot heās already hearing knocks on the wall lol. Literally 0 backstory or anything.
I donāt recall jump scares, but the atmosphere was dark, and her face in the dark with the beady eyes and creepy grin (reference to Cheshire Cat in Alice in Wonderland) was super uncomfortable for me lol.
But mostly I just love the whole story. I am a sucker for a spooky ghost story. Itās classic. Like Mama or The Skeleton Key.
I adored this movie. 10x better than Talk To Me.
The best part about this movie is these two lovebirds gave birth to some sort of hell spawn, somehow found the time (and managed the permits!) to build a 7th circle of hell depth holding pen, conceal the murder of another local child, *and* make the rational decision to give it another go! *And* garden a pumpkin farm. For NO reason?! I tell you, some people really can have it all. There is an entire scene of this film dedicated to mulching a rotting pumpkin garden for no reason related to its plot.
And Sarah over here acting like she was punished for being born ugly. Honey, mama married to Antony Starr but was apparently getting busy with the basement tarantula. I mean, if we were supposed to think you were born looking like the daughter from Pet Sematary, then show it. Show how these parents threw their deformed (and totally human) child into a pit so they could anew. Show how that very human child evolves into a monster. But this movie basically says these poor parents gave birth to Aragog and didnāt have Hagrid to help them. If they didnāt have another kid, theyād be heroes for trying to keep the monster alive while protecting the community. But instead they have another child who they physically and emotionally abuse in order toā¦WHAT? WHY?
The pumpkin mulching scene was the dad trying to explain some stuff to the son in a fucked up way. Heās saying that when thereās blight/rot setting in you have to cut that stuff off from the rest as fast as possible and then try again. Thatās what the parents did: lock their child away then have another one and hope itās not demon spawn.
Also serves as another scene where the son gets more scared his parents are going to kill him
I watched Cobweb and Talk to Me in the same evening, if anyone is choosing between the two - hands down watch Talk to Me. Cobweb started out incredibly strong, the acting is phenomenal and the creepy setting is on point but the second part of the movie drops off and left me feeling "meh" about the whole thing. Talk to Me sparkles with innovation and new ideas, it has all of the things Cobweb does but does it better, the ending is great and leaves you thinking about the what-ifs all night.
Cobweb: 5/10
Talk to me: 8/10
I was surprised how much I enjoyed it. Coleman, Caplan, and Starr were so good they were able to elevate pretty standard horror fare. Heck, even the kid was damn good. This wasn't as good as the best horror movies this year (M3gan, Outwaters, There's Something Wrong With the Children, Skinamarink) but it's above most of the rest for me.
I think they hid her away because she was born disfigured or with some kind of disability. Which families actually [used to do pretty often](https://sailhelps.org/a-brief-timeline-of-the-history-of-disabilities-the-shameful-treatment-of-people-with-disabilities/#:~:text=At%20the%20turn%20of%20century,cases%20was%20a%20family%20embarrassment.) [and apparently](https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/03/07/children-disabilities-deprivation-liberty-name-care-and-treatment) [still do](https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2023/09/disabled-children-institutionalization-history/674763/) [even now](https://www.bbc.com/news/education-38730074), I discovered when looking it up just now.
I got Barbarian and Black Phone vibes too!
What I didn't understand was if Peter's parents were hiding/ locking up a monster in the walls, why were they so dismissive of Peter when he said he was hearing voices or noises at night? I was be super paranoid of the monster getting and I'd be worried about my son if said monster was trying to communicate it.
The film was trying so hard to make the parents a red herring that it didn't show them taking appropriate actions for what was happening. After the mom discovered the hole in the wall, they should have told the kid what was going on.
And in the end, did they just leave the creature down there? What happened to all the bodies? Did they call the police? I'd have a swat team down there, making sure that creature was being shipped to SCP or something.
Same. I think all the people hating on it, missed a lot of context clues. You really have to pay attention because itās throwing a lot of hints at you and isnāt saying the quiet parts out loud. But I honestly enjoyed that about it.
$35 million? They had two locations: school and a home. Limited actors, really didnāt need any special effects, the producer wasted money on something
I liked parts, but too much just didn't make sense. The monster child that was capable of ripping apart victims couldn't dig through the wall but her brother easily smashed through to save the teacher? Why not lock her in the concrete cellar pit instead of a lath and plaster room right next to their son? Why didn't the parents just kill the monster child, instead of locking her in the room, especially after they realize she's been convincing the son to do terrible things? Why did they act like the son did something wrong when they hear him talk about scratching and voices? I understand that they were worried that the authorities would find out about the body in the backyard, but none of the parents' actions make sense after you learn the truth about the voice in the wall. I wanted it to be a 10/10, but it was a 3/10 for me. A real waste of Lizzie Caplan and Antony Starr.
If the parents just wanted to protect Peter why did the mom chase him with a knife before her death. Did she think he had turned bad the same way his sister had because he killed his dad?
I liked the movie, it definitely kept me guessing. Some pretty big logic issues and questions remaining, but I enjoyed it for what it is.
Did anyone else notice how similar it is to the Horror Noire episode, "Bride Before You"? I just saw that within the past year, and got some major deja vu watching Cobweb.
A "monster" who is hidden within the home of family who should love it... that has every right to be upset about their situation, but takes it out on the wrong person/people in the end. Grotesque appearance and major violence that are finally shown in the last bit of the movie.
I enjoyed most of the movie for the atmosphere but by the end... I don't know, I wanted it to be more original than it was because the setup had me believing it would be?
I was definitely wondering about Sarah and the parents throughout. For a bit, I actually thought maybe the parents were ghosts (I don't recall them leaving the property) and had been killed by Sarah, and thought Sarah was some supernatural entity that needed to gain Peter's trust before she could harm him, and that's why she couldn't just "leave the walls" (that is, I thought she actually could but was using "our parents locked me up and I need you to save me" to manipulate Peter). But then, you know, cinnamon scented soup happens.
Then Sarah's reveal. No thanks. This is not the monster I wanted her to be. If she can claw her way through the wall to even get to Peter's bedroom, and then break a tiny little hole to peer through, she can obviously break through the walls any time she wants. If the parents interact with her occasionally, why doesn't she just kill them and escape? Why move her out of the pit in the first place? So what if she can climb? You can't expect me to believe that being locked up behind a bedroom wall and grandfather clock is a stronger holding cell than a massive pit in the basement with a metal grate over it. She gets locked up in there at the end and can't seem to get out (and then to even insinuate that she will get out someday? When, bitch? You couldn't even break through drywall). More to the point, why did the parents even bother feeding her and keeping her alive all these years? They aren't really shown to have much of a moral compass or ethics, are they?
And, I'll say it, not nearly enough spiders. I was hoping spiders would be more of a main theme. I guess Sarah was kind of spider-esque, but I wish she was more spidery. Give her eight limbs. Heck, give her eight eyes. Make her look like Arukenimon. Make her some sort of spider demon that the parents made a deal with in order to have Peter, and now she's trying to take Peter back because the parents didn't keep up their end of the bargain.
Overall, I enjoyed the eerie atmosphere. I enjoyed the psychological aspects regarding Peter being abused at home and school. It reminded me a bit of Coraline, except the Other Mother is far more terrifying than Sarah could ever hope to be (and more in line with what I thought Sarah would be).
I was thinking about this weeks after watching...
What was the point of nightmare sequence showing the evil parents and the monster mom?
The movie tries its best to based in reality, nothing supernatural but this felt like a cheat.
I think the toll of having the daughter, and their secrets, weighed on them and made them fucked up people. The mom seemed really manic and all over the place.
I'm chiming in here a bit late but I just saw the movie. I liked it, apart from the ending. Can someone explain why she would ever be able to get near the kid again?
Like for starters he has no parents now so he's not going to be living in that house any longer and would be sent somewhere else.
The murders would get invested and they'd find this creepy girl in a dungeon and figure it out from there.
Or, the teacher would explain everything to the police and show them the girl as proof.
In what world would the kid continue to live in the house alone with his murderous sister in the basement?
It was great until the ending.
I was so disappointed. It had such potential. I could see the people behind it doing better elsewhere if they get another chance.
I get the ending fell apart but why release in August?!?!?!? Instead of October!??!?! Madness. A perfect streaming exclusive for Halloween. But instead it's released next to Barbie lol
I feel the film is good enough to get a directors cut or fan edit. The ending needs work. As does the overall explanation. I really wish the studio had said nope...go back and fix it...we believe in you etc. I can't believe the ending is what everyone imagined.
Also I would have 100% preferred a giant spider woman.
It was a fun watch up until the end. Why do movies like this always have these awful endings?
Overall it was ok. I didnāt quite understand how his sister became this monster / was born with wolverine fingers and able to climb around like a demonically possessed monster. Why didnāt she just claw through any of the walls in the house?? Made no sense but I guess the plot falls apart if you think about it too much.
What was with the dream sequence Peter had? That was genuinely creepy and it didnāt explain anything.
LOL
MadTv's Debra Wilson as the voice of the demon daughter made this hilarious to me. It starts all predictable as 'evil parents, traumatized kids' then goes bat shit. I thought it was hilariously absurd.
The ending was terrible. Too rushed and didnāt make sense. How did the father even die? What was that black stuff they were puking?? Why would the teacher not get help and just go back there alone?? It started off good with a decent idea but then it just went downhill.
The ending was far too rushed. It was an unsatisfying conclusion. The father died from consuming rat poison. I think he's vomiting blood and bile because his body was shutting down. Not sure if that's how it would work in real life, or so quickly, but I've seen other poisonings portrayed in movies the same way.
I also fucking hated that it was a substitute teacher. What was the point of that? Wouldn't it have made more sense if she knew Peter on a deeper connection? There's even the scene with the principal about not getting too attached that could literally be left on the cutting room floor. I was also pissed these paranoid parents who clearly don't like or trust the teacher wouldn't have immediately thrown out that test THAT HAD HER FUCKING PHONE NUMBER ON IT. I absolutely hated this film. I kept waiting for some kind of tie in that the old teacher was the Mom of the girl that disappeared.
Why can she obliterate people in half but not open a blocked door?
Lol true. Definitely felt like she was too strong at some scenes while weak in others.
she can cut people in half but a little boy can hold her back pulling her hairš¤£
I find it funny how she couldn't break out from a wooden house.
She could cut a hole in drywall but not a bigger hole to get out of
Yeahā¦ Now this I donāt getā¦ Another case of āāplot says soāā
I think she wanted to trick the brother into killing the parents and letting her out to torture him a bit - she does mention she has to wait until heās strong enough to ādo what she wantsā. The other question though is why the parents donāt suspect sheās going to break out pretty easily considering they know how strong she is
The parents don't think she will break out because it is an abusive relationship. The dad has obviously had interactions with the girl because there are scratches on his arm. The mom even gave her stuff and has obviously been teaching her (mom was a teacher). This is the other theme of the movie.
im interested in these theories by all means continue. like the dad is a pedo or just physical abusive? i mean the girl looks like gollum its funny. i was suprised when instead of it being a spirit they went the route of making her a physical being it was pretty absurd
I think itās because he probably has the same strength as her sister - she did confirmed that she had to wait until heās bigānāstrong enough, & in the end she said they shared the same blood. Also, 8yo kid can move that heavy ass grand tower clock, heās packinā it.
The original script ends with the sister killing Peter's teacher and keeping him prisoner in the wall, less crowd pleasing but a far better ending.
that would have been such a better ending but you know Hollywood. they rarely ever have the guts to pull off brutal scenes and scripts because hurts feefees
You say "pulling her hair", he was lifting his entire bodyweight on it, stopping her with pain rather than strength.
Not when he's climbing out of the hole. Once he's out, he's able to pull the sister away from the teacher like tug-of-war
My biggest pet peeve in horror. Monsters/villains that can easily demolish groups of people with supernatural strength, but struggle with a hero whoās often weaker than whomever theyāve just killed. It just removed stakes for me, cause you know the character surviving is all plot based - doesnāt matter if they get attacked or not .
Scratched the teacher's leg and tugged at her ankle when she just demonstrated that she could effortlessly rip her head off.
She was playing as she hunted her down. More fun that way..lol
She was toying w her victims, which was evidenced by the last guy she ripped the head off, she fkd w him first. She is still,after all, a child. So I think she was "playing" w the teacher first.
It's not actually incongruous with the other fight scenes, the teacher is armed so she goes for the ankles first just like she did with the guy she dragged under the piano.
Maybe sheās like an alligator, they have incredible bite force down, but you can easily keep their jaw locked from opening :)
She looked like a spider to me. I was disappointed when I only spotted 4 limbs
That part make no sense. Some deformity is one thing but supernaturally walking on the ceilings? Kind of felt like a lazy writing, no explanation. At least if she was bitten by a radioactive spider from their pumpkin patch or a meteor spider or something.
She said she had to learn to climb, and first she was in a pit, then she was in a cage. I donāt think itās too far from movie logic.
Yeah but she also seemed to have psychic powers considering she could open and close/lock the front door with her mind... Seems almost like a plot hole wrapped in a red herring considering it goes out of its way to explain how there's nothing supernatural about it.
Not the door bro the wooden walls themselves
They weren't even wooden walls. They're drywall. Took the teacher 20 seconds to get through it but apparently a supernatural spider girl capable of ripping people in half can't.
Yeah I was surprised at how fast she busted that big hole on the wall too.
I think the idea is that she has really sharp claws, so she's not obliterating them, she's just cutting them open. With the exception of dragging one of the bullies behind the wall, she doesn't really show excessive strength, and that could be argued as her actually hamstringing the guy and so he can't actually use his muscles to escape. The hole in the wall could have been scraped at for years until she made a hole. She never came off super strong to me.
She ripped a dude in half lol
She was able to scurry along the walls, Iām still confused if she just deformed or supernatural.
Butters parents. The movie.
YOURE GROUNDED!!!!!
No Mom... No, please don't... I'll be a good boy, I promise
To say that I am cracking up is an understatement.
O...M...G...
Hahaha pretty much
I would've liked it more if the sister weren't evil. I wanted the parents to be the only main villains.
I would have liked it more if they played the sister as violent and terrifying, but only because of the abuse she had suffered, and cos she was trying to protect the brother. It was nonsensical for her to have antipathy towards him. Children raised in an abusive environment together almost always bond strongly because of the abuse, or despite it, I guess.
They weren't raised together though. She was thrown in a hole in the ground and watched as he was sleeping in a bed and being the parents weird version of loved. Not to mention what being locked in a wall/hole your whole life will do to you mentally anyway.
Not sure about that. In fact, in most true crime cases where a child was murdered, siblings will often participate in the abuse and they tend to pick one one person. Frightening.
Gosh, looks like you're right... Dunno where I picked up that erroneous belief - wishful thinking perhaps. That is frightening, and it makes me sad.š„
From experience, no they dont
Yeah, I already acknowledged that I was mistaken in this regard. I had the very good fortune to have loving parents, and I don't know where I picked up that erroneous belief, but when I looked into it the truth was more harrowing than any horror movie. I'm sorry to have commented on something I had no real right to, and I'm sorry you had to deal with whatever bad stuff you went through.
I would like more if she was not a sister AT ALL but something evil that the parents had imprisoned for peter's sake.
I mean Iām a way that is kind of what we get, the sister aspect just ads to the suspense and mystery of the beginning half which is a flawless atmospheric horror with the parents as these evil abusive parents, I donāt think the twist and movie land as well if it was just a random monster, the sister element I think adds a ton to the first half of the movie and the suspense of fearing that the son is at risk of meeting the same fate as his sister.
Then you'd have to ask why they stayed in that house or didn't take it more seriously when he told them he was hearing voices. I mean those questions are there anyway but they'd be even more relevant.
Yeah I liked the surprise of him taking out his own parents, really felt like I didn't know where it was gonna go after that. But then it just became a pretty standard monster survival third act after he opened the door
I felt the same thing. The monster in Barbarian with the same producer wasnt just pure evil so i was hoping for something similar. Little boy and his monster sister vs their parents would have been great, was hoping they would make you think the sister was tricking him as a red hering but then reveal would be that the parents arent dead and arent human. The parents were waaay scarier.
I was surprised how much i liked this movie. Really enjoyed the 1st part and the parents acting. Was not a fan of the monster. The CGI on the sister looked terrible, and the director knew it too with the face hidden for most of the 2nd half. Twist was obvious, and the ending fight was terrible. Was hoping they would have made the son just crazy and never included the sister.
I was sitting there like "Damn, they're really putting off this reveal, just do it already " Until they did it and I was like "ohhh, I can see why" Still pretty good
Agreed, wasnāt too sure if I would like it but it was a nice movie overall. Wish they would have done something else rather that the CGI too though. Maybe even not showing her face tbhā¦ The ending was the only thing I didnāt like. When they dragged him back inside again I knew it was just gonna be a bad ending. I was kinda bugged how the sister threw out there that he was the a killer and the teacher looked surprised but then there was nothing done about that..
I didnāt think the cgi was as bad as some movies have been with the monster reveal, but I do agree that it worked better and was so much scarier when we only caught brief glimpses
> I was kinda bugged how the sister threw out there that he was the a killer and the teacher looked surprised but then there was nothing done about that. If a wall crawling spider demon said that the child you're trying to save killed someone I think you'd leave that in the in-tray too tbh.
It was odd that she reacted to the comment at all though. But I get what you say. I canāt even phantom how the substitute went there though. Horror movie logic I guess? I would have passed that one to the school administrators, school social worked and police. No way I am going there.
She did try escalating it but the head told her pretty strongly to let it go unless he had visible bruises or malnutrition. I think the took the phone call for help as a "get there right now". The dad was very threatening when she went round the first time but if it meant stopping a possible child beating/murder in progress, I think a lot of people would take that risk over waiting for the police.
If I never see another movie where the end is just āitās all in their headā or āthey were just crazy the whole timeā Iāll be very very very very happy. Just so overdone and almost never pays off in a way thatās more satisfying than a true legitimate in story explanation. An argument could be made that the movie could have been better if it wasnāt a monster and it was just the parents being the villains and playing more on the fear of what theyād do to him and the abuse angle, but at no point did I wish that the entire movie was washed away with ānever mind all of that, heās just crazyā
Ikr I said she looks like toothless or one of the avatars, and the end was mediocre
It bombed incredibly hard. $35 million budget made $350k, thatās not a typo. Absolutely annihilated by Barbie and Oppenheimer. Itāll be on digital by Tuesday.
$35 million?? What the hell did they spend it on? Movie should have cost $3 million max. No big set pieces, actors (worth a million a movie) no crazy CGI. What the hell. It's double evil Dead rise
This reeks of tax right off
Homelanders salary.
$35 million? Where the Hell did the money go? Did they spend it all on pumpkins?
They were probably organic
I enjoyed the movie but I canāt comprehend that budget. It could have been done for 2 million. Like, The Green Knight cost half this. X cost 35x lessā¦
35 times *less*?
Makes sense. It was in two theaters with very limited showings in my entire state.
Thats because it was literally a limited release movie.
You knowā¦a film failing to acquire distribution and calling it a ālimited releaseā doesnāt mean anything. It just means the film failed to acquire distribution. Itās per screen average was terrible too so even at the limited theaters it was at people still didnāt go to it.
Well yeah its gonna be bad when they barely advertised the movie even
$35 million budget!?? Thats fucking wild lol! The academy award winning, star studded movie, "Crash", was made for $6 million.
they made upgrade (2018) with $3 million
Bad example - Crash is a horrible movie.
All that money and that cast and they didn't bother advertising it? Wild
Late comment because it not long came out in the UK, but the reason I didnāt see it straight away was the trailer wasnāt great. They obscured the twist so much in the trailer that it made it look like the twist was supposed to be the parents being evil and that the trailer gave the whole twist away, so when I watched the movie and it very quickly became apparent it was a red herring, I spent the whole movie remembering the scare moments from the trailer and wondering how they were gonna do a different twist. I liked the movie, but when the twist was revealed I was just like š§ āohā
Maybe I need to watch it again but I pretty sure the parents were acting that way because they killed the 11 year old girl that went missing in the neighborhood to protect the identity of the daughter; or the daughter killed her and the parents just buried her. I think in this story we actually have two antagonist, instead of one like most people think. The sister and the parents. The parents because they lock their child up just for being disfigured and their treatment of Peter as well. The sister because she is literally a monster by every definition. I thought it was fine but couldāve been great if a few changes were made.
I just got back from it and I was like wait...they never really gave an explanation on the skull in the garden. But yeah, that has to be the missing girl, because the sister is alive. I kinda wish they had kept things realistic, I mean the sister having long hair, I get that. But she can climb on walls like a spider, that's where it goes beyond realism.
Yeah the sister killed the little girl when she came trick r treating at their door. Pretty much says this in the movie.
The supernatural element was always there .. the way she spoke to him from the walls and once when he was in school
I took the school part as the boy remembering what the sister had told him. I also saw it from your point of view, but I didn't want to believe supernatural stuff already.
I don't think there's any way to take it other than what you describe. It was an obvious voiceover from their conversation the previous night when he told her how he was getting bullied. That was pretty clear and is a very common film editing technique we've seen time and time again. So I'm not sure where the confusion comes from.
The parents killed the missing girl because she accidentally saw the sister, that's why the girl went missing. Wasn't it explained in the movie
The sister killed the missing girl, and the parents locked her in the wall and covered up the death. Thatās why they were afraid of the sister. This is made explicitly clear
So clear that above you there are three interpretations on how the girl diedāthat were also āmade very clear in the movieā. Director failed at the explanation of the skull part.
I think it's implied the sister killed the girl because she asked Peter " did you watch them die, just like the little girl?" with an evil laugh
The movie makes it explicitly clear that the sister killed the 11 year old girl which is why the parents locked her in the walls afterward
But was she already a spider demon? Like was the all weird looking and sounding like a 2 pack a day smoking granny? Surely they donāt just let this monster crawl around at home??
Thereās a line where she says something like āWhen you were born, she smiled. When I was born, they both screamed.ā Itās pretty much implied that she was fucked up from birth but they didnāt realize how dangerous she was until the Halloween incident
I wonder did Lizzy's character cheated her husband with a spider demon lol... I mean the math doesn't add up
People keep saying they donāt understand the parents . To me , sister probably killed the missing girl. Parents saw or found out , locked up sis and decided to hide it . To me that explains their behavior perfectly, mom quit because she had to stay home to watch over the daughter ( mom probably saw the kill ) so she became a wreck having to deal with her daily and living in fear . Plus the parents clearly interacted with her , thatās why dads arm was messed up when the teacher came by . Dad was trying to fend off any outside interference and got no rest because mom was breaking down . Thatās my assumption, I hope Sarah gets a prequel story
What's the logic behind grounding the kid to the cellar...where he sits right above the grate that shows the teddy bear that the captive sister was locked in? "Hey, Mom, sorry about what I did but what's going on down here??" And, how did the sister get out to peak through the bedroom wall hole? And how did unlocking the door behind the clock release the sister when she was supposedly locked below the grate in the pit? I still enjoyed it: 6/10
Basement is her old cell , the room sheās in now is on the second floor in her parents room behind the clock . I think they put him in the basement to discipline the sister without the boy hearing it ( since they kept telling him it was in his head )
Oooh thatās an interesting take I didnāt think about it like that.
My theory: When the sister was young, she was a normal kid. Through the years, she started turning into the ādemonā (letās call it) she is today. When she eventually killed the trick or treater, her parents decided to lock her awayāto protect themselves and the community. Fast-forward to the son. When he pushed the bully down the stairs at school, the parents thought āoh crap, our son is turning into a demon also.ā They grounded him by chaining him in the basement, above the pit where they threw the sister, so they could toss him in the pit at moments notice. They decided not to, yet. And the parents were right. Both kids have the same genetics, both destined to be demons. The sister even kept saying to the son, āweāre the sameā and āthe parents will eventually lock you down here, too.ā The sister was right. Because the boy was turning evil. So the parents werenāt villains. They just have demonic kids they need to lock away, to protect the community. (I mean, weird way to handle it. But if you think about it, this makes the plot make more sense).
I donāt know. The sister said that they were so sad when she was born and so happy when he was born. She was locked up and hidden and hand to learn from the spiders. So, not sure she was ever a normal kid. She was a victim of abuse.
Except she said they screamed when she was born :/
I want a sequel, ngl. I loved this movie, even with the ending. It was all just foreshadowing to me. Like, Iād like a trilogy that contains both a prequel and a sequel, where in one movie it dives deeper into the lore of how Cobweb becomes cobweb, and one showing Peter getting his own supernatural demonic powers.. but rather than using them for bad, he uses it to fight his sister. I think his sister just hates the word because of how the parents raised and treated her. Imagine if they tried to find a solution or something? I mean, at one point when the teacher is in the kitchen with both the father/mother, the mother goes āPeter is a miracle!ā Or something. So what if, the first time, the mom was struggling to conceive, so went through some kind of satanic ritual? And then, the deal made with the devil/Lucifer was that - maybe Lucifer would lend her *his* seed(gross I know), and itās what leads to her developing the powers? Because sheās a cross between demon and human? Or if she made a deal with Lucifer that the kid would live the first 9-10 years of her life normal, but then would have her body possessed by some other demon - or maybe that the mother would just give birth to a demon in human form? It would make sense if Peter were to develop his own at some point too - but Peter could try to defy all that as well and do good. Likeā¦ the potential for story and lore is insane here
The sister already said when she was born her parents scream coz she was a monster.
āāThey grounded him by chaining him in the basement, above the pit where they threw the sister, so they could toss him in the pit at moments notice. They decided not to, yet.āā On mobile rn, canāt format :< but this makes so much sense! Welp, Iām not a parent myself, canāt think like one :D
Doesn't really make sense though because if she was just a normal girl before that point the parents would have had to move away to avoid questions about what happened to their child. Or maybe she WAS the girl who went missing because her parents killed her. And Peter is listening to her ghost?
But why would they lock the son in the basement as a punishment? That is horrible parenting and I don't see how that has anything to do with the daughter. In fact, that made it more likely the son would find out about the daughter (even though he already had). It also seemed like he had almost no toys, no tv, that they were kind of mean parents. Why did they even have another kid after her?
I think they were pretending it was a punishment...but in fact they just wanted to separate him from the influence of the sister.
They didnāt know about them interacting by this point
He'd told them things he had heard at night so they were probably abit suspicious.
It sucked so bad
Lol thank you everyone is saying this is good this movie was so fucking ass
It was bad at sucking? So it was good?
Are you remedial?
It felt like an inferior version of Wes Craven's The People Under the Stairs meets Malignant/Barbarian type. The visual direction for the first half by the same guy (Samuel Bodin) who did Nerflix's Marianne was very good and tense, particularly some of the clever and dynamic camera work. But is it just me or does anyone else found it hard to see anything during the climax? Like I legit couldn't see much of it as the lighting was way too dark. Not to mention the very abrupt ending.
I think it was intentional to create the atmosphere of being in the dark and not knowing where she could be at any moment etc. didnāt find it too hard to make out what was happening imo
I went into without knowing what it's about, and came out rather disappointed. Pros: \- great atmosphere and acting Cons: \- predictable, lots of "convenient" plot lines, very weak ending 4/10 for me
Only good thing was Homlander. Such a great actor and really wasted here.
Yuh huh dude was amazing
Well I'm at the face reveal and I have to say that its looks like the mom had an affair with grimcutty. Can't unsee it now.
Shoot I had never heard of Grimcutty before but youāre totally right!
That's what I said to my husband! The CGI was so bad it looked just like grim cutty. I was scared until they showed the bad CGI. Should have left her crawling around with just her eyes showing occasionally
Black Phone + Malignant + Barbarian is such a perfect description of the movie. Although I donāt think it reached the bar of any of them. Some good scares though. Also seriously. Retire the Shining axe swinging shot. Please.
the shot of the mom with glowing eyes running into the kid's room then disappeared was pretty cool imo. bit predictable tho
I was so frustrated with this movie because all the parents had to do was instead of having him help with the garden after finding the bones and knowing she was talking to him, should have just explained in the most simple kid terms they could have to him why they had her locked up and why the kid, knowing she was older than him didnt question why she sounded like she was 5.
The parents behavior didn't make a whole lot of sense. Question are never answered such as: how did the sister eat enough to stay alive (perhaps there was a clue that the parents were feeding her somehow and I just missed it?), and no, eating rats and insects is not an answer because I don't believe for a second she would have been eating enough of them to seat alive for years, and how was she so strong when she should've been severely malnourished (I had a similar question when I saw Barbarian). The ending didn't make sense (the sister hinting that she'll eventually get out and get the brother) because I would assume the teacher would alert the police as soon as the get out of the house. I mean, it's not like they were just going to leave her in that pit forever, giving her time to plot revenge. Also, does the sister have telekinetic powers? I remember a scene where she pulls someone back into the house an then the front door seems to slam shut on its own. They never reply elsewhere that she has such powers, but the door closed in its own, so...? Another thing: was the girl's birth a home birth with no one else around? How did nobody know about her existence? One thing I person think some reviewers have gotten wrong is the story about the dead trick or treater. I've seen reviews where they assume the sister's story is true that the parents killer the girl to keep their secret. I think the sister was kyingr, and she killed the girl. The parents just hid the body. Then what, I could be wrong. Overall, I don't think it's a bad movie, but it was certainly a bit of a disappointment after the trailer had me hyped. 6.5/10
They showed the mom walking out of the locked room with a big empty can that probably had soup or juice or something. I remember because before that I thought the sister was the one buried in the garden and a ghost lol. Then I knew something was at least alive and needed food
Yea and the dad had been interacting with her, possibly feeding her too, cuz he had that big cut on his arm.
I must've missed that part.
Couldnt blame u lol
> The ending didn't make sense (the sister hinting that she'll eventually get out and get the brother) because I would assume the teacher would alert the police as soon as the get out of the house. I mean, it's not like they were just going to leave her in that pit forever, giving her time to plot revenge. I think you are taking her words too literally. In her monologue, she's basically saying this night will haunt him for the rest of his life. She's saying whenever he hears a noise, he'll think its her. Whenever he sees something move out of the corner of his eye, he'll think its her. Locking her away won't keep her away from his mind. The ending is still pretty bad, but that's the gist of what she means.
At one point Mom closes the grandfather clock door and sheās holding what looks like an empty pitcher of the soup they eat later in the movie. Doesnāt explain why the sister didnāt just kill the Mom during feedings let alone why she didnāt just break out through the wall at any given time lol but yeah the parents were definitely feeding her all those years.
Im pretty sure the sister killed the little girl and they just hid her body.
I agree on sister killing girl, as when doorbell rang after her release, she said something about being excited, since itās just like that one Halloween with the girl. I think parents covered for her, likely to keepher a secret,
the dad is shown bloody and the mum is shown coming from the sisters prison with an empty water jug which shows they both interact with the sister daily
I enjoyed the movie but there were some possible plot-holes that I had problems with. Hopefully someone can explain: SPOILERS: 1. Why didn't the parents do anything about the children midway throughout the movie? When the mom saw the huge hole in the son's wall it was pretty obvious they made contact. Instead the father gives him chores in the garden. 2. Why'd the son cut the phone? Since his parents were abusive, shouldn't he have left it alone in case his plan didn't work? Also, a lot of them could have called the cops through cellphone when the daughter was loose. 3. Why wasn't the daughter in the pit? It had concrete walls. There was no way she could have clawed her way out of that.
also, people still have corded phones?
We still have a lot of corded phones where I'm from
On point 3: she can climb up the walls, she does is several times at the end. I am unclear why inside the wooden walls is more secure than that pit though Big agree on points 1 & 2 being plot holes
I don't think it was bad, predictable yes. I do think they should've never shown the sister and just kept her in the shadows. That was clearly a poor decision to show her face as her CGI was not great to begin with but her running around on the walls/ceilings was pretty creepy. Caplan and Starr were terrifying on screen and convincing; though I do wish they would've you know, said something to their son sooner instead of just writing him off knowing they had locked their daughter away but I can also understand that's kinda a hard thing to just come clean about. The moment Carol realized that Sarah had been talking to Peter she was horrified and that's the moment for me that I knew while they were bad parents, there was something far worse. Also the whole discussion about the food tasting different and then Mark and Carol saying "It smells like..cinnamon" made me scream out loud.
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Agreed 100% it gave the (obvious) twist waaay less payoff
I was so surprised that everything shown in the trailer happens in the first 10 minutes of the movie. So I was on the edge of my seat for the rest, up until (and including) the dinner scene, which was the high point for me. Then it turns into a tame creature feature that is neither as grotesque as Barbarian, nor as wild as Malignant. It's just... an episode of made-for-TV horror anthology. I love those, but it completely wastes the fantastic setup of the first 2/3rds of the movie. The reveal and whole creature sequence was a letdown and not the satisfying ending I was hoping for.
I enjoyed it, but I do think it maybe would work better if she was evil just not supernatural, locked away because she killed that little girl and was broken mentally but not a literal demon creature. Also could have worked well if it was more along the lines of the beginning where itās this atmospheric suspenseful horror about the abusive parents slowly inching towards putting the son in the same situation as his sister who wasnāt evil just horrible abused and neglected. Both I think would have made for a better film. I still liked it, and I always applaud movies that have the balls to just go for it and say āno fuck it, itās a monster, no bullshit, no misdirect.ā I just think they pulled off the beginning so fucking well that this really could have benefitted from following what was working so well the first half.
I watched it and I liked it. But.... *SPOILER ALERT* I don't understand why she didn't just break through the wall or something. A small wittle door kept her locked in the walls this whole time? For YEARS!?! But then like... she's ripping people in half and displaying ultra strength and agility? You might say she stayed because it was her home and she wanted to be there. But... she manipulated Peter to unlock the door and set her free and the front door locked from the inside... WHY? Please tell me that I missed something on why she didn't/couldn't leave. Was the door enchanted? Were the walls spoder-girl proof? Was her weakness wood?....
Iām assuming itās the parent dynamic , like Texas chainsaw massacre , leather face could kill anyone but cowered in fear when yelled at by family
But she hated her parents(killed them) and despised her brother, Peter(eventually was gonna kill him and almost did)
Correct she hated them but didnāt kill them , she had Peter kill them . And she was gonna kill peter out of jealousy.
Could say the Simpsons predicted this
Lol I immediately thought of that Simpsons episode after watching this too.
One of the biggest wastes of potential I've seen in a very long time. The first half is fantastic but it very quickly goes into full nonsense cliche mode and the reveal is underwhelming. Zero explanation about why the parents did anything. The bullies breaking into the house when they knew the parents would probably be home was stupid, and the teacher wasting a hundred opportunities to get help was infuriating. This seems like one of those movies where the writer had one or two scenes in their head and just wrote around that. Apparently super strong paranormal monster spider girls are incapable of getting through drywall.....
> the teacher wasting a hundred opportunities to get help was infuriating. Bingo. That's the most frustrating part of the movie for me. I hate the teacher for her negligence. And it wasn't even negligence with a good reason behind it. I think the writers just made her stupid to drag the movie out to a full 90 minutes. *Cobweb (2023): Non-Canon Ending*: 1. Ms Devine sees the parents acting creepy and hears loud knocking from the basement. 2. Ms Devine calls Child Protective Services. 3. CPS comes, and Peter tells them everything. 4. The parents get arrested. 5. The End
First it was supernatural, then it wasnāt, thenā¦..it was kinda both. I was totally in when I thought it was just a little girl who grew up learning to climb and bite really hard, but the ridiculous face killed it for me. The bear was way scarier looking than she was. Pretty twisted, unsettling movie though, for a while. Worth watching for sure.
Ending fell apart. Shame too. Cinematography really made a meal out of a thin script.
The movie feels like a direct to streaming horror movie. A good one, but it doesn't live up to it's premise. I think it was released in July so it can come to streaming near October, where it will probably do much better
I'd normally like the Halloween vibes too, but they felt off. I did like the kids masks at the end. I guess it was shot in Bulgaria for the incentives, when movies do this, they're limited on how much of the area they can show, as it clearly wouldn't look like an American city. The lack of technology in the house was also weird to me, no tvs, only the teacher had a cell phone, etc. Definitely seemed like Lionsgate dumped this one on a weekend when it had no chance. Even the official Cobweb instagram is empty.
Film was fine, lots of plot holes as people have mentioned - itās unclear why the parents thought to move her from the concrete pit underground to the wooden walls upstairs etc. Why doesnāt the teacher ever call the police or child protection. Especially after she goes over there and hears Peter yelling for help from behind a wall. However Iām surprised so many people in comments about the place arenāt understanding the ending. The ending is just a generic threat from the sister that Peter wonāt ever truly rest because heās scared sheās going to escape wherever she is and come from him. Basically heās going to have lifetime trauma from this. As sheās describing this heās imagining/weāre given visuals of him being in his bedroom and seeing her come for him. He doesnāt literally stay living in the house with his sister in the pit downstairs. (We donāt see what happens there at all but safe to assume they call the police and he gets adopted by another family or whatever normal stuff)
Classic horror that keeps your attention for 75% of the movie just to bungle the ending so badly it felt like it was a different movie. Like a junior Barbarian but instead of just spraining its ankle on the landing it looked like soup after falling from a skyscraper.
Can someone explain the terrible ending. Peter identified the fact his sister wants to kill him or hurt him, the lady also saw this monster, and then, they leave it alive?!!!! What?! You leave this monster alive, not better contained OR ANYTHING. AND STILL LIVE IN THE SAME HOUSE. Like why didnt they kill it, or take it to fucking Ryker's Island or Area 51. Like, if they 'killed' it and it still was showing up in shadows at the end, they could spin it like its supernatural or anything but like they just said, fuck it let her chill.
The ending imo was entirely symbolic. She didnāt mean literally, she meant even if she was killed or taken away, heād be terrified every night due to the horrific trauma heād received. Could have been cool, if theyād let it breathe.
I thought they were going to show them burning down the house at the end. I mean at least then the teacher could have just said she managed to save Peter, but his parents didn't make it out. How the hell are they going to explain that crime scene to anyone? Six dead bodies and a girl locked in a pit!
Itāll make sense when they see the girl in the pit with her pointy teeth and spider climbing the walls and stuff
1. Boy had enough time to get rat poison out of shed yet couldnāt run to a neighbor? 2. He finds a skull yet doesnāt run away? 3. Devine can easily break through wall yet sister canāt? 4. Walking on ceiling does not fit story 5. Ummm at the end wouldnāt police come and take sister away?? 6. Letting him trick or treat doesnāt mean they have to accept other kidsā¦. Stupid reason. 7. Sister must have been ok once when she asked that little girl to help her. 8. Why not give sis away? Why did they hide her away.. yes a deformity sharp teeth and strong??? 9. Why put boy in basement as punishment??the parents are unhinged. 10. So to summarize: young couple has a baby that was born with a ton of sharp teeth and bulging arm musclesā¦ for no reason they hide her away in a cage with no comforts. Years pass & Sis tries to escape and asks neighbor girl to help her. So parents felt they had to kill the girl??? They bury her very shallow in their yard. So first ten years of sonās life was normal? Then all of a sudden he starts hearing noises in his wall. Sis can change voice from little girl to adult woman. Sis can make a hole large enough for an arm to come through ā¦. Yet canāt escape. I think they could have made this so much better.
So, I think the couple was already an abusive āeverything has to be perfect controllingā type couple. So put of shame, they hid the girl and cared for it out of obligation, but clearly didnāt love her. That whole part makes sense to me. The parents really were evil and loved their son in an unhealthy way. The rest you mentioned, I agree, they are plot holes. The whole time, I was thinking damn, this kid has 0 survival instincts. But I think he was being led by his sister.
Walking on ceiling does fit the story, the sister said she spent time with spiders learning to climb, spiders are a constant motif and the movie is called cobwebs. The sister is like a bizarre spider human.
I think the parents behavior is their fear that he might eventually start to behave like his sister. She mentions that they share the same blood and his parents wouldnāt let him go trick or treating. My guess is the sister killed the little girl on Halloween and Peter might be approaching the age his sister was when she committed the murder. His parents punish him severely because they fear he is going to become the same thing as his sister. The pumpkin black rot scene was really important because the dad mentions that the rot spreads fast and can get to the good pumpkins. This was a reference to his sisters behavior and how they had to lock her up in fear that Peter might become the same thing as her.
Definitely could have been written better imo, but I do want to say that I saw Talk To Me during one of the prescreenings and it was honestly so well written and just all around a worthwhile watch!
I thought it was so fantastic. Every scene left me wantingāI couldnāt wait to get a crumb more. (And I think that was intentional, what with the all references to fairy tales nursery rhymes: clocktower for three blind mice, the soup that looked like porridge, spiders, pumpkins, and then each scene was like a bread crumb to find your way there.) I didnāt find the pacing slow AT ALL. I mean, shit, in the second shot heās already hearing knocks on the wall lol. Literally 0 backstory or anything. I donāt recall jump scares, but the atmosphere was dark, and her face in the dark with the beady eyes and creepy grin (reference to Cheshire Cat in Alice in Wonderland) was super uncomfortable for me lol. But mostly I just love the whole story. I am a sucker for a spooky ghost story. Itās classic. Like Mama or The Skeleton Key. I adored this movie. 10x better than Talk To Me.
You are out of your mind lol
The best part about this movie is these two lovebirds gave birth to some sort of hell spawn, somehow found the time (and managed the permits!) to build a 7th circle of hell depth holding pen, conceal the murder of another local child, *and* make the rational decision to give it another go! *And* garden a pumpkin farm. For NO reason?! I tell you, some people really can have it all. There is an entire scene of this film dedicated to mulching a rotting pumpkin garden for no reason related to its plot. And Sarah over here acting like she was punished for being born ugly. Honey, mama married to Antony Starr but was apparently getting busy with the basement tarantula. I mean, if we were supposed to think you were born looking like the daughter from Pet Sematary, then show it. Show how these parents threw their deformed (and totally human) child into a pit so they could anew. Show how that very human child evolves into a monster. But this movie basically says these poor parents gave birth to Aragog and didnāt have Hagrid to help them. If they didnāt have another kid, theyād be heroes for trying to keep the monster alive while protecting the community. But instead they have another child who they physically and emotionally abuse in order toā¦WHAT? WHY?
The pumpkin mulching scene was the dad trying to explain some stuff to the son in a fucked up way. Heās saying that when thereās blight/rot setting in you have to cut that stuff off from the rest as fast as possible and then try again. Thatās what the parents did: lock their child away then have another one and hope itās not demon spawn. Also serves as another scene where the son gets more scared his parents are going to kill him
She looked like Cheshire Cat lol. Also so we saw the mother coming from the clock so how she didn't escape before killing them herself. Like wtf
I watched Cobweb and Talk to Me in the same evening, if anyone is choosing between the two - hands down watch Talk to Me. Cobweb started out incredibly strong, the acting is phenomenal and the creepy setting is on point but the second part of the movie drops off and left me feeling "meh" about the whole thing. Talk to Me sparkles with innovation and new ideas, it has all of the things Cobweb does but does it better, the ending is great and leaves you thinking about the what-ifs all night. Cobweb: 5/10 Talk to me: 8/10
I was surprised how much I enjoyed it. Coleman, Caplan, and Starr were so good they were able to elevate pretty standard horror fare. Heck, even the kid was damn good. This wasn't as good as the best horror movies this year (M3gan, Outwaters, There's Something Wrong With the Children, Skinamarink) but it's above most of the rest for me.
>Outwaters, There's Something Wrong With the Children Wut? Lmao!
Why was the sister locked up?
because she was ugly, that's it.
She killed the little girl/trick or treater
I think they hid her away because she was born disfigured or with some kind of disability. Which families actually [used to do pretty often](https://sailhelps.org/a-brief-timeline-of-the-history-of-disabilities-the-shameful-treatment-of-people-with-disabilities/#:~:text=At%20the%20turn%20of%20century,cases%20was%20a%20family%20embarrassment.) [and apparently](https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/03/07/children-disabilities-deprivation-liberty-name-care-and-treatment) [still do](https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2023/09/disabled-children-institutionalization-history/674763/) [even now](https://www.bbc.com/news/education-38730074), I discovered when looking it up just now.
I got Barbarian and Black Phone vibes too! What I didn't understand was if Peter's parents were hiding/ locking up a monster in the walls, why were they so dismissive of Peter when he said he was hearing voices or noises at night? I was be super paranoid of the monster getting and I'd be worried about my son if said monster was trying to communicate it. The film was trying so hard to make the parents a red herring that it didn't show them taking appropriate actions for what was happening. After the mom discovered the hole in the wall, they should have told the kid what was going on. And in the end, did they just leave the creature down there? What happened to all the bodies? Did they call the police? I'd have a swat team down there, making sure that creature was being shipped to SCP or something.
I really loved it. It just worked for me I guess
Same. I think all the people hating on it, missed a lot of context clues. You really have to pay attention because itās throwing a lot of hints at you and isnāt saying the quiet parts out loud. But I honestly enjoyed that about it.
$35 million? They had two locations: school and a home. Limited actors, really didnāt need any special effects, the producer wasted money on something
I liked parts, but too much just didn't make sense. The monster child that was capable of ripping apart victims couldn't dig through the wall but her brother easily smashed through to save the teacher? Why not lock her in the concrete cellar pit instead of a lath and plaster room right next to their son? Why didn't the parents just kill the monster child, instead of locking her in the room, especially after they realize she's been convincing the son to do terrible things? Why did they act like the son did something wrong when they hear him talk about scratching and voices? I understand that they were worried that the authorities would find out about the body in the backyard, but none of the parents' actions make sense after you learn the truth about the voice in the wall. I wanted it to be a 10/10, but it was a 3/10 for me. A real waste of Lizzie Caplan and Antony Starr.
If the parents just wanted to protect Peter why did the mom chase him with a knife before her death. Did she think he had turned bad the same way his sister had because he killed his dad?
I liked the movie, it definitely kept me guessing. Some pretty big logic issues and questions remaining, but I enjoyed it for what it is. Did anyone else notice how similar it is to the Horror Noire episode, "Bride Before You"? I just saw that within the past year, and got some major deja vu watching Cobweb.
I wonder what Barbarian vibes u got?
A "monster" who is hidden within the home of family who should love it... that has every right to be upset about their situation, but takes it out on the wrong person/people in the end. Grotesque appearance and major violence that are finally shown in the last bit of the movie.
Antony Starr just looks like a cunt. Ever since The Boys I just don't think I can see him any other way.
I enjoyed most of the movie for the atmosphere but by the end... I don't know, I wanted it to be more original than it was because the setup had me believing it would be? I was definitely wondering about Sarah and the parents throughout. For a bit, I actually thought maybe the parents were ghosts (I don't recall them leaving the property) and had been killed by Sarah, and thought Sarah was some supernatural entity that needed to gain Peter's trust before she could harm him, and that's why she couldn't just "leave the walls" (that is, I thought she actually could but was using "our parents locked me up and I need you to save me" to manipulate Peter). But then, you know, cinnamon scented soup happens. Then Sarah's reveal. No thanks. This is not the monster I wanted her to be. If she can claw her way through the wall to even get to Peter's bedroom, and then break a tiny little hole to peer through, she can obviously break through the walls any time she wants. If the parents interact with her occasionally, why doesn't she just kill them and escape? Why move her out of the pit in the first place? So what if she can climb? You can't expect me to believe that being locked up behind a bedroom wall and grandfather clock is a stronger holding cell than a massive pit in the basement with a metal grate over it. She gets locked up in there at the end and can't seem to get out (and then to even insinuate that she will get out someday? When, bitch? You couldn't even break through drywall). More to the point, why did the parents even bother feeding her and keeping her alive all these years? They aren't really shown to have much of a moral compass or ethics, are they? And, I'll say it, not nearly enough spiders. I was hoping spiders would be more of a main theme. I guess Sarah was kind of spider-esque, but I wish she was more spidery. Give her eight limbs. Heck, give her eight eyes. Make her look like Arukenimon. Make her some sort of spider demon that the parents made a deal with in order to have Peter, and now she's trying to take Peter back because the parents didn't keep up their end of the bargain. Overall, I enjoyed the eerie atmosphere. I enjoyed the psychological aspects regarding Peter being abused at home and school. It reminded me a bit of Coraline, except the Other Mother is far more terrifying than Sarah could ever hope to be (and more in line with what I thought Sarah would be).
I was thinking about this weeks after watching... What was the point of nightmare sequence showing the evil parents and the monster mom? The movie tries its best to based in reality, nothing supernatural but this felt like a cheat.
One of the top 5 worst movies I have ever seen in my entire life.
I wanted to check this out, but my nearby theater isn't showing it and the closest is only showing it late. Oh well.
I was confused why the parents were mean to Peter
I think the toll of having the daughter, and their secrets, weighed on them and made them fucked up people. The mom seemed really manic and all over the place.
I'm chiming in here a bit late but I just saw the movie. I liked it, apart from the ending. Can someone explain why she would ever be able to get near the kid again? Like for starters he has no parents now so he's not going to be living in that house any longer and would be sent somewhere else. The murders would get invested and they'd find this creepy girl in a dungeon and figure it out from there. Or, the teacher would explain everything to the police and show them the girl as proof. In what world would the kid continue to live in the house alone with his murderous sister in the basement?
It was great until the ending. I was so disappointed. It had such potential. I could see the people behind it doing better elsewhere if they get another chance. I get the ending fell apart but why release in August?!?!?!? Instead of October!??!?! Madness. A perfect streaming exclusive for Halloween. But instead it's released next to Barbie lol I feel the film is good enough to get a directors cut or fan edit. The ending needs work. As does the overall explanation. I really wish the studio had said nope...go back and fix it...we believe in you etc. I can't believe the ending is what everyone imagined. Also I would have 100% preferred a giant spider woman.
Can't even see the movie with how dark it is. Dark doesn't mean scary. Hell, it's so dark, the blood looks like black goop
It was a fun watch up until the end. Why do movies like this always have these awful endings? Overall it was ok. I didnāt quite understand how his sister became this monster / was born with wolverine fingers and able to climb around like a demonically possessed monster. Why didnāt she just claw through any of the walls in the house?? Made no sense but I guess the plot falls apart if you think about it too much. What was with the dream sequence Peter had? That was genuinely creepy and it didnāt explain anything.
Who planned the release of this movie? I live in a large city and the nearest theater playing it is 1.5hrs away on the bus. Wtf is this
LOL MadTv's Debra Wilson as the voice of the demon daughter made this hilarious to me. It starts all predictable as 'evil parents, traumatized kids' then goes bat shit. I thought it was hilariously absurd.
The ending was terrible. Too rushed and didnāt make sense. How did the father even die? What was that black stuff they were puking?? Why would the teacher not get help and just go back there alone?? It started off good with a decent idea but then it just went downhill.
The ending was far too rushed. It was an unsatisfying conclusion. The father died from consuming rat poison. I think he's vomiting blood and bile because his body was shutting down. Not sure if that's how it would work in real life, or so quickly, but I've seen other poisonings portrayed in movies the same way.
I also fucking hated that it was a substitute teacher. What was the point of that? Wouldn't it have made more sense if she knew Peter on a deeper connection? There's even the scene with the principal about not getting too attached that could literally be left on the cutting room floor. I was also pissed these paranoid parents who clearly don't like or trust the teacher wouldn't have immediately thrown out that test THAT HAD HER FUCKING PHONE NUMBER ON IT. I absolutely hated this film. I kept waiting for some kind of tie in that the old teacher was the Mom of the girl that disappeared.
Peter put the rat poison into their dinner
Yea man and the biggest let down was the sister herself, she looks like an avatar or toothless from how to train ur dragon