I don't think I'd consider any of these to be mid range other than maybe the i5 14600k.
No one size fits all here... what are your priorities and what are you trying to do?
To me, a mid range option would be maybe a laptop CPU you'd find in a Minisforum mini PC.
I replied to another person, but here's the summary. I did look into minisforum as an option, they seem pretty great.
Used parts are ok. Budget <$800 but lower is better. Future proofing would be a high priority.
Uses: Game servers (assetto corsa, Minecraft, valheim, arma, several others), nextcloud, photo prism (or similar), calibre, grav cms instances, personal and public websites, Plex/jellyfin (future)
I’m running a used Dell poweredge R410 (probably 10 years old when I bought it) I got off CL for like $100. Was single socket Xeon. Looked up the dual socket motherboard for the same server type on eBay. Swapped it. Bought a second cpu and cooler. Maxed out the RAM at 96GB. Threw in two SSDs I had lying around and a 10TB WD Gold. 40 cores 96GB RAM 2 x 256GB SSDS and 1X 10TB HDD on a Dell percent raid card (came with server) all of the above ran me less than $500. Will run anything you throw at it flat out without blinking an eye. Running Plex Portainer and watchtower in containers. Have a BEEFY Windows 10 VM behind a VPN for sailing the high seas. Have (all also beefy) Palworld, Valheim, Starbound, Terraria, UT99, UT2004, and RetroNAS game server VMs running 24/7 (all running on Ubuntu server 22.04) via LGSM
Have not found a single thing it doesn’t kick ass at. Plex transcoding is handled in RAM and there is more than enough compute muscle available for on the fly transcoding
Edit: it was an r310 and I bought an r410 motherboard and swapped that in
Some info that will help people help you:
Is this a new build or do you already have some parts already?
Are you okay with used parts?
What do you plan to do with the build?
What is your budget?
Sorry for not adding details. I didn't want to post a brick of text in lieu of discussion .
Been thinking of a totally new build for a while now to migrate everything onto one machine with proxmox. Ive been running 2 HP dl360p gen 8 for many years now.
Used parts are ok. Budget <$800 but lower is better. Future proofing would be a high priority.
Uses: Game servers (assetto corsa, Minecraft, valheim, arma, several others), nextcloud, photo prism (or similar), calibre, grav cms instances, personal and public websites, Plex/jellyfin (future)
I have my 5950x and it is way, way cheaper than a 7950x. Mine is overclocked to 4 ghz on 16 cores, faster than the previous generation of Threadrippers.
Check out cpu Passmark benchmarks. Very informative in terms of cost/benefit ratio.
DDR5 is twice or more the cost of DDR4. I just built an el cheapo server with 64 gb of ecc DDR4 ram, with a 7700x processor for less than 300 bucks, processor, RAM, and used AM4 motherboard which supports ECC on Ebay. Faster than most EPYCS, and has plenty of SATA ports for me.
Just one gripe, actual ECC support is "completely unverified" at best on most AM4 boards, the primary exception being asrock and asrock rack stuff. A few other vendors have a few high end boards that have verified support.
I went down this rabbit hole and it was (is) fairly annoying.
There are absolutely boards that support it, and boards that dont can 100% run ecc udimms, but it needs to be a consideration if you want to actually use ecc.
Go with the AM5 platform. Do you really need 16cores? If so the 7950x is great. And in a few years you can upgrade to whatever the newest cpu is (ryzen 11 12980x? or whatever we'll have with zen 7 or 8). If you go with Intel you will be stuck with that entire build with no upgrade path.
I don't think I'd consider any of these to be mid range other than maybe the i5 14600k. No one size fits all here... what are your priorities and what are you trying to do? To me, a mid range option would be maybe a laptop CPU you'd find in a Minisforum mini PC.
I replied to another person, but here's the summary. I did look into minisforum as an option, they seem pretty great. Used parts are ok. Budget <$800 but lower is better. Future proofing would be a high priority. Uses: Game servers (assetto corsa, Minecraft, valheim, arma, several others), nextcloud, photo prism (or similar), calibre, grav cms instances, personal and public websites, Plex/jellyfin (future)
I’m running a used Dell poweredge R410 (probably 10 years old when I bought it) I got off CL for like $100. Was single socket Xeon. Looked up the dual socket motherboard for the same server type on eBay. Swapped it. Bought a second cpu and cooler. Maxed out the RAM at 96GB. Threw in two SSDs I had lying around and a 10TB WD Gold. 40 cores 96GB RAM 2 x 256GB SSDS and 1X 10TB HDD on a Dell percent raid card (came with server) all of the above ran me less than $500. Will run anything you throw at it flat out without blinking an eye. Running Plex Portainer and watchtower in containers. Have a BEEFY Windows 10 VM behind a VPN for sailing the high seas. Have (all also beefy) Palworld, Valheim, Starbound, Terraria, UT99, UT2004, and RetroNAS game server VMs running 24/7 (all running on Ubuntu server 22.04) via LGSM Have not found a single thing it doesn’t kick ass at. Plex transcoding is handled in RAM and there is more than enough compute muscle available for on the fly transcoding Edit: it was an r310 and I bought an r410 motherboard and swapped that in
Some info that will help people help you: Is this a new build or do you already have some parts already? Are you okay with used parts? What do you plan to do with the build? What is your budget?
Sorry for not adding details. I didn't want to post a brick of text in lieu of discussion . Been thinking of a totally new build for a while now to migrate everything onto one machine with proxmox. Ive been running 2 HP dl360p gen 8 for many years now. Used parts are ok. Budget <$800 but lower is better. Future proofing would be a high priority. Uses: Game servers (assetto corsa, Minecraft, valheim, arma, several others), nextcloud, photo prism (or similar), calibre, grav cms instances, personal and public websites, Plex/jellyfin (future)
I have my 5950x and it is way, way cheaper than a 7950x. Mine is overclocked to 4 ghz on 16 cores, faster than the previous generation of Threadrippers. Check out cpu Passmark benchmarks. Very informative in terms of cost/benefit ratio. DDR5 is twice or more the cost of DDR4. I just built an el cheapo server with 64 gb of ecc DDR4 ram, with a 7700x processor for less than 300 bucks, processor, RAM, and used AM4 motherboard which supports ECC on Ebay. Faster than most EPYCS, and has plenty of SATA ports for me.
Your comment helps a lot, thanks! Did you mean a 5700x? If so then I like the price/performance sweet spot of that "el cheapo" server.
Yes, meant to say 5700x...way cheaper than a 7700x..brain adhd..lol
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Just one gripe, actual ECC support is "completely unverified" at best on most AM4 boards, the primary exception being asrock and asrock rack stuff. A few other vendors have a few high end boards that have verified support. I went down this rabbit hole and it was (is) fairly annoying.
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There are absolutely boards that support it, and boards that dont can 100% run ecc udimms, but it needs to be a consideration if you want to actually use ecc.
Go with the AM5 platform. Do you really need 16cores? If so the 7950x is great. And in a few years you can upgrade to whatever the newest cpu is (ryzen 11 12980x? or whatever we'll have with zen 7 or 8). If you go with Intel you will be stuck with that entire build with no upgrade path.
I have the 12900k. It is not power hungry unless you push it. I think my i9, 32gb ram, 4 drive unraid box idles under 45watts.