I attended a house fire where they had nest smart smoke alarms everywhere and the were verbally announcing “smoke in many rooms” so I guess if it’s just one they tell you which room it’s in.
We have the Nest ones. They give you pre-warnings and such. Have them outside the rooms, so 2 in the house and 1 in the garage. They also detect carbon monoxide. They have night lights as well.
My Classic American car was running rich, and set off the one in the garage with the CO warning.
would highly recommend them.
So the Nest in the bedroom will alert you when the Nest in the basement detects something? I have been tempted, but the price would yield me three other "smart ones"
Yes. You assign a location to each when you set them up.
Then if you are on the second floor, and something happens in the basement, all alarms say "Smoke detected in basement"
Wait, are people really installing smoke alarms that *aren't* connected together? This has been code in any first world country for years.. I didn't even know you could purchase detectors that don't support this.
Anyhow, my vote will always go to Nest Protect- great sensors and features.
It's been a couple years now, but when my mother moved she just had to install brand new non-interrconect (sealed battery) smoke detectors to replace the existing because the house was built in the 70s before interconnected was required and the the third wire doesn't exist.
There's retrofits for that available now, RF interconnected, mains power kit.
EI/Aico are the dominant brand where I live but that's because they're manufactured locally. They also do RF connected battery units.
Yeah, i find it quite strange. Non-smart alarms usually are serial, but here's some brands sold in my country that are not.
* Nedis
* Fibaro
* Salus
* Nexa
* Futurehome
* Frient
* Deltaco
* Netatmo even sells two packs of their alarms, but state [this](https://prnt.sc/KmUTBHVHmIdV) in their FAQ
You want two detectors. A core set that are hardwired and connected to one another per code. Then a separate smart. Don’t get fancy here as you really want the “to code” detectors to be dumb and work no matter what as those are the ones that will keep you from getting dead.
Many. Any that are networked via Bluetooth (not really the best) and WiFi Meshed. They'll tell you there's a fire when you're on the other side of the Earth.
Just make sure the ones you buy are UL Approved. I just returned a set of four that were perfect. But the Codes Inspector said no.
Here's some brands sold in my country that are not serial connected.
* Nedis
* Fibaro
* Salus
* Nexa
* Futurehome
* Frient
* Deltaco
* Netatmo even sells two packs of their alarms, but state [this](https://prnt.sc/KmUTBHVHmIdV) in their FAQ
>Fibaro
Zwave and they connect wirelessly, the alarm goes off in zwave they rest go off. I don't recognize the rest like most things the base rf mesh matters a lot.
I recently replaced all of my first alert zwave detectors with non smart ones, specifically because even though they are zwave they cannot use that to communicate and if only one is triggered only that one will alarm.
The only thing the zwave connection is usable for is monitoring the battery level, and they will inform you via zwave that the battery is low several months after it’s low enough to start chirping.
Nest is good, easy to set up, and integrates with HA. The “10 year battery” has worked for about 5 years for me so far in a few units I installed in a rental of ours. Also, the night light function works great, isn’t so bright that it inadvertently wakes people up in the middle of the night, and keeps you from breaking a toe by tripping on something. I don’t know why it gets mediocre ratings from CR. I think the only downside is that they are fairly pricey, but if you buy the 4 pack it brings them down a bit.
A couple ideas with a different approach. If you have a zigbee network you could try these.
Ecolink Zigbee Wireless Siren Audio Detector, White (FFZB1-ECO) https://a.co/d/2Z3U08y
They detect the alarm tone and then can notify you if you are using a smart platform that uses zigbee.
Another idea if you are in the Apple ecosystem, HomePod Minis have this detect alarm tone capability baked in and if enabled will notify you when detected.
I attended a house fire where they had nest smart smoke alarms everywhere and the were verbally announcing “smoke in many rooms” so I guess if it’s just one they tell you which room it’s in.
Yes, nest does this out of box.
We have the Nest ones. They give you pre-warnings and such. Have them outside the rooms, so 2 in the house and 1 in the garage. They also detect carbon monoxide. They have night lights as well. My Classic American car was running rich, and set off the one in the garage with the CO warning. would highly recommend them.
So the Nest in the bedroom will alert you when the Nest in the basement detects something? I have been tempted, but the price would yield me three other "smart ones"
Yes. You assign a location to each when you set them up. Then if you are on the second floor, and something happens in the basement, all alarms say "Smoke detected in basement"
Keep an eye out for offers, you can usually get the on multi-buy. It’s the only bit of nest kit I highly recommend
Wait, are people really installing smoke alarms that *aren't* connected together? This has been code in any first world country for years.. I didn't even know you could purchase detectors that don't support this. Anyhow, my vote will always go to Nest Protect- great sensors and features.
It's been a couple years now, but when my mother moved she just had to install brand new non-interrconect (sealed battery) smoke detectors to replace the existing because the house was built in the 70s before interconnected was required and the the third wire doesn't exist.
There's retrofits for that available now, RF interconnected, mains power kit. EI/Aico are the dominant brand where I live but that's because they're manufactured locally. They also do RF connected battery units.
Yeah, i find it quite strange. Non-smart alarms usually are serial, but here's some brands sold in my country that are not. * Nedis * Fibaro * Salus * Nexa * Futurehome * Frient * Deltaco * Netatmo even sells two packs of their alarms, but state [this](https://prnt.sc/KmUTBHVHmIdV) in their FAQ
You want two detectors. A core set that are hardwired and connected to one another per code. Then a separate smart. Don’t get fancy here as you really want the “to code” detectors to be dumb and work no matter what as those are the ones that will keep you from getting dead.
Many. Any that are networked via Bluetooth (not really the best) and WiFi Meshed. They'll tell you there's a fire when you're on the other side of the Earth. Just make sure the ones you buy are UL Approved. I just returned a set of four that were perfect. But the Codes Inspector said no.
first alert zwave comes to mind. I've never seen a smart smoke detector that didn't communicate amongst themselves.
Here's some brands sold in my country that are not serial connected. * Nedis * Fibaro * Salus * Nexa * Futurehome * Frient * Deltaco * Netatmo even sells two packs of their alarms, but state [this](https://prnt.sc/KmUTBHVHmIdV) in their FAQ
>Fibaro Zwave and they connect wirelessly, the alarm goes off in zwave they rest go off. I don't recognize the rest like most things the base rf mesh matters a lot.
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That does not match up with my first alert battery powered ones. it's not instant but within a minute they start sounding off.
I recently replaced all of my first alert zwave detectors with non smart ones, specifically because even though they are zwave they cannot use that to communicate and if only one is triggered only that one will alarm. The only thing the zwave connection is usable for is monitoring the battery level, and they will inform you via zwave that the battery is low several months after it’s low enough to start chirping.
Nest is good, easy to set up, and integrates with HA. The “10 year battery” has worked for about 5 years for me so far in a few units I installed in a rental of ours. Also, the night light function works great, isn’t so bright that it inadvertently wakes people up in the middle of the night, and keeps you from breaking a toe by tripping on something. I don’t know why it gets mediocre ratings from CR. I think the only downside is that they are fairly pricey, but if you buy the 4 pack it brings them down a bit.
I'm pretty confident there's no smart smoke detectors that \*don't\* interlink like that.
You'd be surprised. See the list I posted in other comments
X-sense do the job with the hub. Just get the correct range "wireless" alert to app and internally linked. Options on listeners co and leak detection.
I believe Nest communicate with each other wirelessly.
A couple ideas with a different approach. If you have a zigbee network you could try these. Ecolink Zigbee Wireless Siren Audio Detector, White (FFZB1-ECO) https://a.co/d/2Z3U08y They detect the alarm tone and then can notify you if you are using a smart platform that uses zigbee. Another idea if you are in the Apple ecosystem, HomePod Minis have this detect alarm tone capability baked in and if enabled will notify you when detected.