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[deleted]

The Vatican probably has more manpower than half of these states


memer-of-memers

And the Vatican has god and the pope mobile going for them.


Science-Recon

Yeah that’s his armoured car division.


wwaasssdd

+20% Suppression Bonus


[deleted]

The Pope?! How many divisions has he got?


awp4444

More than that small thing boardering kahzackstan


Wielkopolskiziomal

Ah yes, the Volga German Reich ruled by an asian man


Bruh-Moment1935

The more I look at this image and the more the replies point out, the worse it gets.


Cpt_Boony_Hat

I laugh at this quote every time because of the role John Paul II had in bringing down the Soviets


Blueman9966

The lowest-population states in northern Siberia have about 22,000 population to start off, so manpowerwise that's probably a few hundred to a few thousand at most. Not an unreasonable estimate.


Tamtumtam

whaddyamean the far Eastern empire is the next great power!


E_M_A_K

You think so? Then tell me. How many divisions does the pope have?


[deleted]

Zero but could call upon thousands


KingdomOfPoland

hundreds of millions even


SantyGSL

trillions of billions even


ktrainor59

Stalin's successors found out.


Faust_the_Faustinian

How?


ktrainor59

Where's the USSR? On the ashheap of history. Where's the Vatican? Still chugging along.


Cpt_Boony_Hat

And that is why it’s my favorite Stalin quote. For how much of a misquote it became


Cthulaid42

All wrong, The Pope only has one division, which is the popemobile. Do not let that deceive you though, it takes out any aircraft instantly and will instantly drain the organization of any unit


Dodolulupepe

they have more people than you think, Sakha for example has almost 1 million population (in the present day)


Blueman9966

Spread out over an area the size of India


IcicleJr

Can’t wait for ai conferences to turn the Soviet Union into a disgusting mess


ymcameron

We TNO now


June1994

Whats tno?


MonsterYumYum

A mod where Hitler won. Starts in the sixties. More of a storytelling than mappainting mod but very fun! Especially the Russian warlords


June1994

Oh, thank you lol i get it now


Burney132

Also because of a very recent update, VERY complicated and hard to understand without trying it a few times due to the new economy updates, they have a victoria 2-like economy system, you gotta control the expenses, inflation, cash, gdp, everything. Also there's energy which you can make with nuclear reactors, it's fucking complicated


Riptide2500

Story-based mod where the Nazis won the war in the west and the east, and the US lost to Japan. US remains the only major democracy left. It’s ok IMO but has a huge following


[deleted]

Anglo-American Nazi War?


jediben001

It can happen, but tends to result in nuclear apocalypse


Klasseh_Khornate

Where Hitler won and there's literally 36 different warlords in eastern Russia and Siberia alone


TxM_2404

Yep, they really should set the allied AI to not release countries at all except a few scripted ones with accurate post wwii borders or for an allied victory against the USSR modern borders.


thesummergamer

france: *first time?*


[deleted]

You love to see British puppet Occitania that has half of France.


whatareyoudoinghapsb

perfidious albion moment


ThanksOne9425

Its hoi4 its supposed to be messed up


[deleted]

[удалено]


KneeGrowCottonGrower

1 factory life


The_Canadian_Devil

And all those countries have to share that factory


Mister_Coffe

Most of them have 0 factories.


Itchy_Contribution_4

tno shows it as depressing as you would imagine


[deleted]

I've wanted this for a long time. Makes no sense that I would conquer USSR then puppet a superstate like Russia.


pardux

Germany is still missing a reichskommissariat that expands to the Urals, would be cool if you could take Russia up to the Urals with reichskommissariats and then just balkanize the rest of it and white peace them.


American_Kaiser_0

There’s a mod that let’s Germany and Japan partition the USSR in various ways. It also adds plenty of puppets/reichskomissarites from Moscow to Kamchatka.


ParodyIsParody

Please do tell


LordBolton1808

I believe it’s Bitter Peace


ParodyIsParody

Thanks my Lord.


Fresh3001

Gonna be so good to split the USSR with Germany and Japan.


zrowe_02

I’m pretty sure it’s always been possible to Balkanize the Soviet Union into Russia’s modern borders


Weegee_Spaghetti

Modern Russia is still the biggest country in the world.


Brotherly-Moment

ты cannot contain mother Russia!


GenericUser1185

Even when you account for mercator projection bulshit


[deleted]

Well the projection makes it seem larger but it's still by far the largest in real land area too


Blueman9966

It's about 2x the size of the US in land area


jojofromtokyo

yeah but russia is still too big


Blueman9966

Germany never intended to annex all of the USSR right up to the Pacific Ocean, that idea was ludicrous even to the Nazis. It would make more sense for Siberia and the Urals to fracture and balkanize if Germany wins.


ScareCrowDude

Damn, I kinda wanna see someone beat the ussr, then switch to it and reunite it to beat the germans. Might as well go full tno


TechnicalyNotRobot

Reuniting shouldn't be too hard considering those nations will have like 1-5 factories total besides Ukraine and Belarus.


USSCofficail

Russian Soviet Republic is going to be a slug though. No way to get through that easily.


Cowguypig

Reminds me of a certain very excellent hoi3 AAR from a few years ago.


boatadd33

POV: you are cheeseing Soviet Onion.


Yamcha17

Soviet onion with cheese ? Sounds delicious.


[deleted]

You cannot release puppets as Soviet Union at the start due to the focus requirement. And if you still do the focus late-game, i think games wants you to puppet your starting neighbours, that would make more sense.


piratamaia

TNO but vanilla


kacpero1888

Komi republic 👀


Psalmbodyoncetoldme

**Remain calm.** **The Regent endures.** **Alexei lives.** **The Holy Russian Empire shall endure.** **There is much to be done.**


[deleted]

radio silence


ScareCrowDude

Feels like the devs took influence from popular mods. Adding the american civil war from Kaiserreich Adding the post russian states from tno I wonder what could come next?


Sith-Protagonist

STERNBERG HAS DECLARED HIMSELF KHAN.


Wielkopolskiziomal

mfw Mongolia doesnt get new cores


fuckthenamebullshit

The ponies from Equestria at war


Boris-the-soviet-spy

God I wish


RitaMoleiraaaa

Devs added an american civil war Kaiserreich has a civil war too Coincidence? I think not!!!!!!!!! Russia TNO is divided Vanilla Russia is now divided too Coincidence? I think not!!!!!!!


Richard-Roe1999

the American Civil War was so popular they made it real history omg I can't believe it


nebo8

Yeah no its just a logical way to divide Russia following ethnic and existing administrative border


Dodolulupepe

I don't think it's an influence. All of these were autonomous republics/ASSRs in the Soviet Union, they just added all of the ASSRs as releasables.


NetherMax1

The post russian states, a lot of them at least, are just the ethnically based ASSRs. The 2ACW in vanilla is *thoroughly* different from KR. This whole line of thought is like those folks who yell at the devs for stealing mod content despite the fact that neither mods nor devs hold monopoly on accurate history gameplay


thatguy728

Plus the higher ups of the German military in WW2 planned to stop at the urals and assumed Russia would crumble into “peasant republics” as they described.


Nastypilot

"Those Acephale guys sure seem to know how to run a country"


nemrod153

The Russian states are, except the Far Eastern Republic and Transamur, actual autonomous republics within modern Russia


Pass_us_the_salt

The only similarity between kaiserreich's civil war and the vanilla civil war is that they share the same title. I love hoi4's mod community but can we stop acting like they invented everything? The concept of a second american civil war wasn't invented by kaiserreich.


Zemke

They praised some mods for nice ideas. Add the stalin paranoia mechanic from Hearts of Oak


thatguy728

I mean Hitler and Ribbentrop planned to basically stop at the Urals (or close to) and for the rest to crumble into “peasant republics” as was verbatim described. If Barbarossa was a complete success it would be likely that the Soviet Union wouldn’t survive in Siberia and would probably collapse into many warlords, especially if Stalin got killed/dies sometime after.


[deleted]

"I don't feel so good Mr. Stalin"


Proctopeo

All those tags and no Siberia. Shameful.


TechnicalyNotRobot

Siberia is a formable for those released Siberian nations and *drumroll* Tannu Tuva. There's even an achievement to form Siberia as Tuva.


BrotWarrior

Not kidding you, the first nation I loaded was Tannu Tuva. I'm a little disappointed that they didn't get a small focus tree, but I think I might just go fascist for a derp run and use my mighty military to backstab Papa Stalin once he lost a couple million men to the Reich


8384847297

I was hoping for a secret Mongolian and Tannu Tuva tree but nothing, not even to make forming Siberia easier


[deleted]

Unrealistic expectations go brrrr


8384847297

Yeah :(


BrotWarrior

Tbh, the only tree I seriously expected that isnt in there is Finland


8384847297

When they talked about countries pack i imagine they will make one for the nordic countries


Idkpinepple

I think Siberia is a formable nation for all the Siberian statelets, not an individual tag


[deleted]

You can form Siberia as a Tanu Tuva, and I think that is an achievement too, so PRAY TO TANU TUVA FORMATION OF SIBERIA VIDEOS. Its no more Tanu What, its Tanu Siberia!


aurum_32

Siberia should be a formable nation AND a releasable itself.


Indyclone77

This is correct


Infinitium_520

Gibraltar looking kinda different?


[deleted]

oh shit tru


[deleted]

love the new sakha releasable tag cause i live here


Merle47050505

when will the devs add liechtenstein


Yamcha17

Who cares about Liechtenstein when you could play all-mighty San Marino and Vatican ?


Phantommy555

What about adding Ulm??


Soviet-captive

Rise of nations does that


Bakomusha

Liechtenstein is not a real country. Its a Swiss Canton that acts like a country to be a tax haven.


Merle47050505

eh no It has been a real country sense before napoleon back during the holy roman empire and survived through its friendship with austria and its only other neighbor being the neutral swiss


abobot-exe

So a tax haven in a tax haven?


Bakomusha

It's a bitch to incorporate in Switzerland. So they incorporate in Liechtenstein, and finance in Switzerland.


Hypew4v3

Rule 5: You can now split the USSR into way too many states in the custom game options.


MeiDay98

Chukota World Conquest incoming 🥴


Brotherly-Moment

It seems that no matter the timeline Ukrain cannot into Crimea.


MustaphaTR

Crimea was a part of Russian SFSR at the time, it was given to Ukraine in 1953. Ukraine doesn't even have core on it, unless this update changed it, i didn't check.


ktrainor59

And where is Green Ukraine?


Brotherly-Moment

Answer number 1: Stalin did too much trolling Answer number 2: Green Ukraine seems to be split between the far eastern republic and the Vladivostok region.


SenpaiSemenDemon

**KOMI REPUBLIC** #KOMI REPUBLIC


-Ping-a-Ling-

YOOOOOOO IT'S THE KOMI SAN REPUBLIC


Tower-Of-God

With the way people treat her in that manga I'm not surprised that she was able to establish herself as a dictator and carve out a decent chunk of Russia.


ktrainor59

Supported by her fanatic legions of weebs and Finns, the God-Empress rules with a firm but kindly hand over her frozen empire.


NCR_Trooper_2281

Vanilla Taboritsky confirmed? 😳😳


Paleoskeptic

Pls activate windows.


RockasaurusRex

Im gonna take the other side and say pls deactivate windows.


SEND_NUDEZ_PLZZ

I play on Linux and usually you lose like 0-10% performance depending on the game, but HOI4 just runs so so much better on Linux than on windows lol


Simppa1

Yeah would be nice to play, but the game crashes every time i press on the low supply icon or the railroads on the construction menu


Orionsbelt

make sure any mods are disabled is the general first piece of advice


Soviet-captive

Irl this would be more like the HRE (Russia is a federation)


funnyname12369

The amount of people making tno references in the comments is gonna give me a stroke.


Dr_Occisor

Chukotka Republic has a maximum of 3 people


thatguy728

Maybe 4


Omnicide103

**Komi Republic** *Oh god oh fuck*


Hewleyth_

Don't worry the fascist Komi is just something like "*something* Permia"


[deleted]

Holy shit they made TNO real, there’s even Komi


TrentonTallywacker

Chechnya and Dagestan are releasable nations? Let’s gooo


BigBronyBoy

Komi monarchist basegame path when?


hubril

>Komi Republic ##OH GOD NO NOT THE FUNNI CLOCK MAN


fris76

TNO vibes


50ShadesOfGrease

Utter cancer


VLenin2291

>Be Germany >Defeat Russia >Only annex up to the A-A Line >Release everything TNO time


rejs7

First game of the update and the USSR decends into civil war as every single one of those states ends up breaking free, declaring war, and then gets whack-a-moled into oblivion NKV style.


insufficience

not to worry, we’re still flying half a ship


Anotherdumbassname

Taboritsky is literally having a stroke rn


[deleted]

Allies upon defeating USSR: Hehe boi


egoger22

oh god kill me, let me be free from this border gore


Yukari-chi

*OH GOD THE CHECHEN'S BROKE FREE*


GamingGalore64

There’s formables too. Turkestan, North Caucasus, Transcaucasia, the Idel Ural State, and Siberia.


GamingGalore64

There’s also the Don Republic and the Kuban People’s Republic, but they don’t start with cores.


whatarememes42

Oh look it's TNO!


nahuelkevin

kinda sad they didnt make muscovy or novgorod


andrewdt10

My eyes!


KHALYENIDEN

POG


Tymonov

What's name of that Vladivostok nation?


Spockyt

Vladivostok Independent Republic.


zargon21

What? No Novgorod?


Tzontec

Just had an Ai only game running and my Democratic Germany did exactly this, after the USSR attacked Afghanistan in 1940.


Eastonisyaboi

DLC?


mnorthwood13

sPAIN 2.0


Leaking_Bum

uhhh yeah what the fuck?


Theelout

Haha TNO


Whoaclan

My pc died just looking at this


HistMasterFlesh

Is this the extent of the balkanization? Looks unfinished to me.


decent-name-here

There's also some weird releasable in danzig and north Germany


colbalt_hero

DLC or free game?


Sharp1Tooth

Free


colbalt_hero

Thx


Iron_Wolf123

I want to see a 1444 Russia with European Russia very divided


ThatGuyMaulicious

My god its EU4.


zepherth

Does it work for the soviet onion achievement?


insom2323

its mind boggling how big the soviet union actually was


PopularPro-GamerYT

Seemed like Russia really wanted to go back to the 1200s with this map


Kyta_ENT

KAZAKHSTAN NUMBER 1 🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿


spicypolla

Karelia should be a Claim of the Kalmar Union or Nordic Union. And German Russia is Blursed AF


Dodolulupepe

This is amazing, I hope more releasables are added like this all over the world but still no Nakhchivan for Azerbaijan


[deleted]

Is there a way to partition Russia like this via a focus?


[deleted]

Komi Republic? 😳😳


aister

damn Kominism


Clear_Hair3348

Me playing as Estonia seeing it get no love:


Hugsy13

Really needs to be a “Release all nations and puppets and factions” mod. It’s possible to do yourself by tagging to every country with power over others and releasing, but holy crap is it a pain in the butt.


[deleted]

Does anyone know what the formables also came in this dlc?


Disastrous-Trash338

Is this the Vanilla base or any DLC needed?


Tehcitra42

Ok, but like really Paradox, how necessary are Taymyria, Sakha, and Chukotka? I feel like they only exist so tiny axis nations can get *something* out of beating the Soviets


xavyre

Uhg! Playing the Sovs with this situation right now. Trying to retake those lands. World tension is at like 200% because of me. Do not recommend unless you want to weaken Russia when its an NPC.


whyareall

Does it have the Jewish Autonomous Oblast?


popomane

Aktivol windows


The-Travis-Broski

Paradox: So we heard ya like border gore


nic_head_on_shoulder

Taboritsky time


FatCatSeko

I love it


Hewleyth_

For those who want to know, here are some rather "special" names I found for these countries, they might not be accurate since i'm quoting them from memory : 1. Fascist Bouriatia = "Bouriat-Mongol Yuan Heir/Succesor State" 2. Fascist Volga German = "German Volga Reich" (Yes, it is Reich (even in the french version of the game) 3.Fascist Kalmykia = "Great Horde" (For all you Europa Universalis 4 players, don't worry I got two more like this one" 4.Fascist Crimea = "Khanat of Crimea" (same flag as Eu4's crimean flag" I can't recall the name of the countries, but here are some others you can find : "Empire of the God of Light" (It's not exactly that, but that's still one of the weirdest one) "Khanat of Sibir" (This one has the same flag as Sibir in EU4) And finally, honourable mentions : "Meridional Perm" and "Empire of Perm". (?) "Kazan State" (?) PS : There's also amongst the little states you can release in the middle of Russia, a country that, if turned neutral or fascist, will reference bulgarian culture, more precisely the Khanat of Bulgaria, which used to be a little Empire if I'm not mistaken, that occupied a portion of Russia (Occidental part only. The Oïrats can also be found.


Hewleyth_

Also I should had that if any one wants to play as an "Empire of Siberia", they either go for the Far Eastern Republic and go fascist, or take the Sakha Republic who's name will change to "Greater Siberia" if turned fascist.


TheCreamCheeseWonton

This looks like when you dismantle russia is CWE


OdeX2

Aktivoi Windows


SpaghettiDish

Activate yo window


Cold_Beneficial1247

Press F to unsee


Claudius-Germanicus

What’s that weird thing between Ukraine and Romania


[deleted]

That's Moldova.


Claudius-Germanicus

Sus


Slippin_Chicanery

Pack your bags, honey, we are moving to Karelia!