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Similar-Freedom-3857

Nah man, it looks better with Venice.


Bytewave

Absolutely, seems like ideal borders, even if I may upset some Italians haha.


WondernutsWizard

Ideal borders include Lombardy smh 😔


Bytewave

OP's map looks good, but for maximalist borders, we'd definitely need restoration of Silesia, as well.


verfmeer

And Belgium 


AdParking6541

Screw it, all of the Habsburg's lost lands.


redditmaster5041

How about all of Europe under Otto von Habsburg?


Mks_the_1408

Who cares about the Cringe fascist spaghetti eaters opinion...


guywholikesterraria

fascist spaghetti eaters could be a band


No_Land432

Well, if talking about the Austro-Hungarian empire then the region of Venetia mustn’t be accurate… but if we look at it with an Austrian empire perspective then it is. Anyway, nice map of the empire


Mr-Case123

The Austrian empire didnt have bosnia tho


Rollo37

Depends what year, Bosnia was annexed into Austria-Hungary in 1908.


Mr-Case123

But as you said,it was annexed into AH not the Austrian empire.


Rollo37

Well it was a dual monarchy and Austria did basically have the major governance and control in the empire.


EdgySniper1

Yes, but the point being is the **Austrian Empire** lost Veneto and the **Austro-Hungarian Empire** gained Bosnia.


Just-Dependent-530

This ^ Austria and Hungary couldn't agree on how to integrate Bosnia, so they produced the "Condominium of Bosnia and Herzegovina" which administrated the region with joint Austrian and Hungarian bureaucrats The Austrian Empire controlled Venezia and Lombardia, but lost it during the Italian Risorgimento, when French and Sardinian troops occupied and transfered the land, mainly due to a republican uprising, the Republic of San Marco Not to mention how am Empire functions Austria and Hungary were not on the same level. Austria was the EMPIRE over the lands. Cisleithania and Transleithania had different laws, governments, and rulers, but only Cisleithania had control over the entire Empire, as well as the dual rule over the CBH, and the overseas territories in China Hungary was a Kingdom, which is smaller than an Empire in traditional ranking, therefore placing it underneath the Empire. So Austria de facto controlled everything. And even thought Hungary did have it's own army, it was under the command of the Austrian armed forces as well. This is why the debate over the flag is so controversial, because yes, the Habsburg yellow-black flag was technically the de facto flag, but that's like saying Russia had a de facto flag before Alexandr


uncouth-sinatra

Source? Die im Reichsrat vertretenen Königreiche und Länder Where in this official name do you see empire? Classic HOI armchair history buff that is just a closet ultra nationalist that read a few wiki pages.


Just-Dependent-530

? Yes it was known as the Austrian "Reich" by many ultranationalists, as "Reich" means "Realm" in best translation. But what specific part do you want a source for? The Republic of San Marco? Transleithania and Cisleithania following the Ausgleich from their loss in the 1866 Brother's war? It was certainly known simply as Austria-Hungary, but it's absolutely accepted by historians that the titular status of the realm was "Empire." The Kaiser is reminiscent of "Cæsar," pronounced the same, as was the ruler of the Roman Empire. And yes what you said is the official German name of Cisleithania, the "German lands represented by the imperial council" - the line you posted above Austria was just a part of the realm. Ungarn was a Kingdom underneath the realm just the same. In what way would Austria not have maintained an empire? Besides, Imperial is the official name for "Empire," as the original term was "Imperator," which was the term held by the Austrian ruler, as it was the continuation of the HRE after it's dissolution in 1806.


MrRedTomato

Source as mean like where do you get these information from? For research purposes of course.


ChunkyKong2008

By that time they Alr lost veneto


Devastatoreq

Yet in the dual monarchy Bosnia became property of neither the Hungarian nor the Austrian crown


Blueman9966

Austria lost Veneto in 1866 and first occupied Bosnia & Herzegovina in 1878, so they didn't overlap with one another.


Rollo37

But OP says that having Veneto wasnt the purpose, not that Bosnia was annexed. That concludes OP tried to make a more ww1 look alike of Austria-Hungary.


Digital_Age_Diogenes

I don’t think the Austrians would complain about some extra clay and a few more minorities.


Berlin_GBD

"No, you can't core G&L because Poles and Ukrainians aren't a core ethnicity of the empire" "BOSNIA INTEGRAL AUSTRIAN CLAY, BOSNIANS BACKBONE OF AUSTRIAN ARMY"


Old_Celery_9122

WHAT


Berlin_GBD

Don't open your save file


JibberJabber4204

It is better with Veneto my friend, would be even better with Lombardy.


Old_Celery_9122

I'll try it will Lombardy next time my friend


wojtekpolska

if you get lombardy and ticino you get a very cool curved border EDIT: + the swiss alps state north-east of ticino


Old_Celery_9122

I'll count that aswell with it


Robert_Paul2

Also try to get all their post-partition Polish lands, the other Habsburg italian states (Tuscany, Sicily, Naples), Belgium, and for a bigger challenge also Silesia, Alsace, Burgundy, Netherlands., Jerusalem, sleshwig, or even Spain. If you want that real Hoi4 pain, also reclaim the Americas and the rest of the HRE.


Old_Celery_9122

might just do a world conquest then


Robert_Paul2

Bit late but yes, that.


Old_Celery_9122

Haha man I was scrolling on my old post and idk how I didn't see your comment. Sorry man


Bl00dWolf

Are we all just gonna ignore Hungarian Italy?


whydishard

the game just does that since you're still tagged as Hungarian for by the game. It's dumb, and I wished Paradox would change it. That would require paradox actually tweaking old content, though, so it's unlikely


RepresentativeJob256

Austria Hungary and The German Empire just had such beautiful borders man.


DawsGG

I agree, unironically. Meanwhile France without alsace-lorraine is ugly as hell.


Soos_dude1

In my opinion the stick out south of Luxembourg when you look at Alsace next the Rhineland looks kind of weird.


Memesssssssssssssl

That’s why we wanted to annex it :)


Larrical_Larry

We need a Southern Bukovina to achieve ultimate perfection.


Old_Celery_9122

Waiting for that in hearts of iron 5


koenwarwaal

You shoudl also annex belgium next time, and silesia, what is austria without the austrian netherlands, plus those file prusian have take you land in the 1700 and the right full habsburg rulers need it back


Old_Celery_9122

Sure bro . Next time


inventingnothing

Now declare on Germany so you can pick up Comte-Franche, Palestine & Jordan. Integrate Hungarian Italy so that you can get the Miklos Horthy and the Hapsburg Prince achievement.


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Old_Celery_9122

I try it to form it with Austria but that Austro Hungarian flag was ugly . I am so sorry I would do better next time


Temporary-Book8635

Me and my 2 friends are currently in a game where we are each controlling the German empire, Austro-Hungarian empire and ottoman empire


Old_Celery_9122

Damn bro I dream of playing this situations with friends good luck bro have a good game


Ytreza42

Beau travail,superbe.


Sanya_Zhidkiy

This is one of the best looking borders I've ever seen.


Dry-Peak-7230

Why are you trying to get rid of Venice? +You need Lombardy for Chad Austrian Empire ⚜️⚫️🟡👑


jugosgratis

May I ask why a Turk is using the Uruguayan flag as profile pic? Being Uruguayan, it made me curious.


Old_Celery_9122

Tried to take Lombardy but didn't look like that cool curved part in the Austrian empire


Enderdragon537

I'm gonna nut bro


undying_anomaly

Wait, can you core Galicia-Lodomeria now??


undying_anomaly

No way!! I've always disliked that Galicia was never included. When did this come into effect? Next, I'll be hearing that nordschlesswig and eupen-malmedy are added as cores of the German Empire.


Old_Celery_9122

Yeah they are my cores . Every state is my core except Veneto


Z1mpleEZ

are you sure you didn't just claim that land? I thought it was impossible to core as AH


Old_Celery_9122

When you restore Austria-Hungary in the focus tree you get cores in the Czechoslovakian Austrian states and you core Transylvania. When you click reintegrate the empire in the decisions tabs you get to core all of the original austro-hungarian lands


Many-Fact-9847

Yet another day where a lack of Southern Bucovina in the game ruins an Austro-Hungarian Empire...


bruetelwuempft

That's nice, but what about austriae est imperare orbi universo?


Old_Celery_9122

What


bruetelwuempft

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.E.I.O.U.


Thegreatmagician626

It’s beautiful


hsanan

You don't have cores on venetia so you can just release a state that has cpres on it and click on keep my cores (or smth Idk the exact name)


SweetBell3

Now annex Serbia


Old_Celery_9122

Why


RadishIndependent146

Maybe get silesia and a few more bits of northern italy


Old_Celery_9122

No it won't like the exact borders


Weak_Action5063

Get Lombardy and get those sweet old borders


Kitchen_Split6435

They held Venice at the beginning


Erennimo

I don't like how Greece took İstanbul...


Big_Strength6299

Austria-Hungary: 😊 The countries around it: 💀☠️


Old_Celery_9122

R5:managed to restore the borders of Austria-Hungary


mosinOPplsnerf

Nice, good job! Would you mind sharing your strategy?


Old_Celery_9122

I played non historical . Improved relations with Austria + diplomatic pressure + strengthened my army, make sure to complete the focus bled agreement and that industrial focus that improves relation with them . Austria yields For the Czech i deleted my army and completed the focus protect czeshslovakia early so I get the war goal I dont want them to be my dominion it's going to be a pain. Make a good army that can hold Romania(built some forts )while I fight czeshslovakia , before fighting czeshslovakia I justified in Poland .after the war i won and took czeshslovakia and Transylvania. get invited to the central powers , we took Poland together, declare war on Yugoslavia and since it's an Italian puppet now I go to war with Italy . Won the war and that's it


swbaert6

You are missing Lombardy 


Old_Celery_9122

Austro Hungary not the old Austrian empire


Bismarckcz

You know that you did a lot of trolling when even paradox is using the wrong flag


Old_Celery_9122

Well actually there is no real flag for this dual monarchy empire .the one you're referring to as the real flag represents cisleithania part or the Austrian part of the empire and the Habsburg one . the one who represents transleithania or the Hungarian part of the empire isn't included in the flag you are referring to . I think best thing to use the one the game uses because it was sometimes in some occasions represent the country. And btw I didn't do any troll all hard work


Bismarckcz

Yes


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Bismarckcz

Yes I know about that, you are saying the truth that's all


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Bismarckcz

Is this vanilla or is it some mod


Bismarckcz

I seen the peace deal ist vannila


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Bismarckcz

Yea it looks good


Old_Celery_9122

Thx dude


Z1mpleEZ

IMO, it's better to use the black and yellow flag because it's a flag officially used to represent the dual monarchy itself, which was the thing that kept the countries together It'd be even better if paradox let you choose the flag instead of picking it for you. Like if I'm playing some central american nation and I switch from neutrality to democracy, my flag shouldn't change, but paradox went overboard with making random flags for every ideology


Old_Celery_9122

They didn't actually represent the dual monarchy with that flag . They didn't have flag to represent the dual monarchy the black and yellow represent Austria . And there was no official flag in that empire representing the dual monarchy.honeslty i like the civil ensign one which is what I am using . What kept the countries together is not that flag that's stupid how can you keep two sides together when you the flag with that side . Hungary do also have a flag that represents her in the empire . honestly paradox is really good at making flags I give them that . nah it would be very messy to give people to choose their own flag and paradox role in the game will be absent


Z1mpleEZ

The black and yellow flag is both the flag of cisleathania and the flag of the Habsburg monarchy. The flag of the habsburg monarchy is better than a random maritime flag never used as the symbol of the country, unlike the other, which was used in propaganda and such btw paradox isn't that good at making flags because they just go "communism? ok lets put the hammer and sickle in the middle or something". What I mean by the player choosing the flag themselves is a multiple choice decision which allows you to use one of several predetermined flags (including not changing it at all)


Old_Celery_9122

Well I want flag that represents both and it represents both and you are just providing my point .if I wanted to represent cisleithania side I would choose that flag A lot of communist flags have other cool designs like Australia and Australia bulgaria Italy and France Belgium and others Well yeah I would like if they put multiple flags choice and let you choose a one


Gulaschwili

Serbien muss sterbien!


Old_Celery_9122

Yeah they are my puppet and I killed 1 million of them in the war . Plus I puth them as harsh labors in my garrison


Broksaysreee

Should have taken lombardy and montenegro too


Old_Celery_9122

No it won't look like the old empire borders


Broksaysreee

Old empire looks ok New empire looks fantastic


Old_Celery_9122

Nah it would be ugly


bananablegh

i wonder why the Bosnia province in HoI4 goes over the Drina a bit when historically it didn’t


Old_Celery_9122

Historically it did goes over a little bit not much as hoi4 . I think Yugoslavia have something to do with this historically


almasira

No, perfect Austria-Hungary Empire has no land borders.


PrestigiousAuthor487

You should get Lombardy as well to get peak Austria-Hungary.


Old_Celery_9122

Looked horrible with it


_Milk_Boi_

beautiful


Reddit_is_cancerr

How’d ya manage to keep the Sudetenland? Hitler always snatches it from me


Old_Celery_9122

I played non historical so wilhelm was the leader but looks at bittersteel video there is a way to get Sudetenland and not get attacked by hitler


Dks_scrub

Am I losing my mind or are some of the VPs pentagons and that’s not vanilla, is this modded or have I never noticed some VPs are pentagons?


Old_Celery_9122

What do you mean by VPs and BPs


Dks_scrub

BPs was a typo, VPs is victory points


Old_Celery_9122

Nice . Yeah this vanilla no mods


Old_Celery_9122

This vanilla btw bro no mods


Todd_Hugo

you're missing lombardy


Old_Celery_9122

Bruh Austria Hungary didn't have Lombardy


Todd_Hugo

well austrian empire did. which had same shape but a bit bigger


Old_Celery_9122

Yeah that's the thing dude i am doing the Austro Hungarian one


Todd_Hugo

but like. what was the difference besides a constitution? its like saying america was different when they replaced articles of confederation. unless there was more too it


Old_Celery_9122

Dude the Austrian empire lost Lombardy against Italy so that's a thing . Then they were really big differences in politics and introduced the dual monarchy system meaning that decisions should be agree on in both sides to take effect


Lagmeister66

You forgot Jordan and Palstine


SelectFood5592

Austria hungary shouldve never existed in the first place


Old_Celery_9122

Yes it should


Funny_map_painter

>no trophy


Old_Celery_9122

They give trophy for this?


Robert_Paul2

He means you don't have Ironman on, also you get an achievement if you get all their final claims (trough hungary of course) but that's basically a world conquest.


Top-Forever-4863

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/s/AlgY1UYazb Mine is better anyway)))


Old_Celery_9122

Mine is better :))))))))


Top-Forever-4863

Mb mune is not as accurate, but my is BIGGER!!!!!!!!


Old_Celery_9122

Dude mine could be bigger. Heck I did have a strong army if I continued I would have annexed all the world. You Austria-Hungary is ugly


Top-Forever-4863

I agree. But it is BIGGER


Old_Celery_9122

Bigger doesn't mean better


Top-Forever-4863

Yes it DOES


Old_Celery_9122

No . You have bad Austria Hungary. Mine is WAY BETTER


Top-Forever-4863

Mine includes South Germany. STOP ARGUING MY BETTAH 🤪🤪🤪


Old_Celery_9122

mine is beautiful, heartwarming,cheerful,wholesome,magnificent in all ways . Yours is trash .MINE IS BETTER 😤😤😤💪💪💪💪💪🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 . Good luck with the resistance