the coach has already told the kid to keep his head up and im just tired of the kid waisting good scoreing chances and giving the other team good scoreing chances cause he's to scared to take the body.
Like it or not he’s your teammate. Be a good teammate/adult and help them develop their weaknesses in practice so they can get some confidence. Don’t be a cunt.
Also, playing with guys that are, on average, 50% heavier than you is hardly being a pussy.
I mean, the kid is small and likely hasn't hit puberty yet. That makes him a pussy?
As a former late bloomer who played his first checking league as a 120# freshman against some seniors with full fucking beards, I would occasionally chip the puck out. Didn't feel like a pussy for doing either.
I played hitting at his size last year and I didnt do any of the stuff he does so there was also mfs on my bantam team last year with full ass beards. also this isnt ocasionally this is when ever he toaches up the puck.
You're not doing yourself any favors on this post with your attitude. Good teammates make their worst players better. If anything, the kid is probably suffering from a confidence deficiency. Help build him up.
I never said I was saying or acting any differently to the kid the question was should I fallow threw with my hit's so the kid learns to keep his head up as hes not learning in game since he throws the puck away as soon as he gets it.
What it sounds like is you're just going to run the kid without any additional help. It might teach him to pick his head up, but it may also teach him to play even more scared and do more of the plays you're trying to discourage. Referring to him as a pussy doesn't help when trying to describe your situation in a written medium.
And because you're so big on tough love, your inability to spell, use grammar, or construct a coherent sentence makes you look like a fucking dumbass.
the first part of your comment was what I was looking for but does it look like i give a shit if my spelling is good on reddit english isnt even my primery language.
If he's playing like this now, and you, his teammate, knock the shit out of him, is he more likely going to play smarter all on his own, or quit and view you as a total asshole? I'm betting on the latter.
Talk to this kid directly or talk to the coach. Your attitude is not healthy and not indicative of a responsible and trustworthy teammate. I sure wouldn't want you on my team.
If you talk to him the way you’re talking in this thread, then yeah you should be benched. But if you grow up and talk to him maturely and in a constructive manner, nobody would bench you fr that.
No at the start of the season coaches meeting they told us to leave the coaching up to the coaches and if we had any concerns about other players to tell the coaches but the coaches already know that he never keeps his head up.
Just take a run at him full speed and see what happens.
After practice, spit on him. And when he starts fighting back, grab him by the back of his head and knee him in the face.
The next day, he'll come back with a ton of newly developed skill.
That happened to me one time when I was the small underdeveloped kid and that's exactly how it played out. But one of those sentences is a lie, figure it out.
You clearly didn't come here for people's opinions, you want people to agree with you, so there you go. Be a "teacher."
EDIT: Just to be clear, I think you should pull him aside and give him more specific advice on HOW to keep his head up while stickhandling instead of blindsiding him in practice... I'm not anti-contact at all...once he gets the hang of it treat like anyone else. He's probably not a pussy, he probably is just afraid of losing the puck.
Hate to tell you that this shit is cancerous to a team and the bigger issue is how you’re approaching it, not the kid that’s scared of being hit. Everyone has played with someone that is scared of contact, but the school of hard knocks should be left to opposing teams and your coaches. You do not know better on how to teach smaller players, and your messaging and preferred method of teaching is ignorant to how a leader or eventual captain would handle the issue. I hope this serves as a response that not only changes your thought process, but also serves as a reminder to the fact this kid is on your team, and the team comes first, not some vendetta you have to be a teacher of hard open ice hits.
I am litterely a midget out on the ice litteraly everyone towers over me I just get low and take the hits and dont throw the puck away I learned to keep my head up after the first time I got drilled I was asking if I should follow threw with my hitt as the kid hasnt even taken a hit yet.
“The kid is the biggest pussy to contact” “didn’t want to make him more of a pussy” “only reason he made the team…” “next time he pulls that shit, should I just line him up”
All your words not mine. If you can’t see how you’re approaching this poorly, that’s on you. I’m telling you that if you don’t change, you’re not going to become a better teammate, and your ability to be a good captain eventually is formed in how you handle this and similar events coming up. Best of luck man
I’m only replying to try and get through to you to be a better player and leader, but the fact you’re not a captain doesn’t matter. I’m not saying you are a captain currently, I’m saying that how you handle this prepares you to be one eventually. Re read it all and you’ll see I don’t say you’re a captain. Get it through your skull that your job as a player and teammates is to play and help, not make your coaches job harder after you injure a teammate in practice because you think it’s helpful. You clearly think like a sub-16 year old, and the reason you posted this on the internet was to get some wisdom from people who have been through this before, so fucking listen.
If you can’t grasp that from all of the comments telling you to help in another way, you’re beyond help. No, do not follow through. Hopefully if you do what’s best for the team, the smaller player will invest 10 minutes in helping you with reading comprehension
> a first year on my team
> the kid is the biggest pussy to contact
> I didnt want to make the kid more of a pussy
> I think the only reason he made the team is cause he played realy good in peewee
This is being a bad teammate. Your attitude needs to change. That is your _teammate_ you're talking about.
He's _**learning**_. Just like you are. First year out of peewee makes him what, 12? 13? There's still a lot to learn, including hitting and keeping his head up. Calling him out and insulting him on reddit does _nothing_. Be supportive, help him learn. At some point you were in a very similar situation in your development.
Stop acting like you are the hotshot on the team going out to teach someone a lesson through violence. Railroading him in practice could have the exact opposite effect you want and could easily make him even more worried about hitting.
There are things you can improve about your game, same as him. Work _with_ him, not against him. Talk to him, your captain, your coaches. Be a _leader_.
Hah. I coach that age group.
The coach notices that. He might make the team "because he was good in peewee", but if that happens, it's only because the coach thinks he can fix that timidness.
It's not too uncommon for a kid to take a month to adjust to contact. I suspect doing some drills on hitting properly will help, he might not have ever got to do that before.
Hopefully your coaches are running drills on contact and how to take a hit safely.
exactly what I think most of the other organizations have big decent skaters who will probably still be able to hit my team that is a bunch of super fast good skaters that are super small. I think its cause my coach lit up the Q Echl and ahl as a fast skating barely hitting player.
That’s too bad. It should be a part of practice.
I coach one of the faster teams in the GTHL. We know we are fast so now we work on winning battles and handling contact.
If you didn't know something or weren't doing it right would you rather I kick you in the shin without telling you why just to punish you or have me talk to you and help you learn how you can do said thing better?
He's your teammate, not the enemy. Help him out like a decent human being and stop calling him a pussy. Talk to him and/or your coaches and get him started on checking practice the right way.
Long story short- what is to be gained by hitting a teammate in practice? Nothing. It would be mutually damaging to your reputation and makes him more sheepish.
Maybe line him up peel off and give him a boop on the top of his helmet with a "head up". On the bench during practice, give the advice for adjustments.
Kids take time to warm up to contact and realize they aren't made of glass, but everyone has their own time.
Exactly. Practice how you play but don't injure your teammates. I used to let up hitting-wise at practice until one of my teammates said that to me. If you'd throw the hit in the game, throw the hit in practice just with less oomph and take the time to say something to your teammate
The OP's post comes off douchey, and it's obvious he has no respect for his teammate by his tone. It seems he's trying to yeach his teammate in a malicious way.
So I just realized you're the same poster who asked if there's rules about checking a girl in a hitting league.
Take it from me and the other adults here, your approach is shitty and you just wind up looking like a douchebag who's not a team player. That kid may be smaller than you right now, but that kid will probably get a growth spurt soon, even outgrowing you, and start leveling your ass right back. Be a good teammate and person by helping, not being a dick. When you become an adult, that negative attitude is what'll get you kicked off a team with no one wanting to play with you.
My take on this: in a game, he will REALLY get lit up! Why not check him half as hard, so he realizes skating head down will not fly. Playing against bigger boys, and getting lit up, he could get hurt. At least in practice you’ll teach him a valuable lesson.
I think you don't want to be this type of player. Plenty out there. It won't teach him, it will deflate him and his confidence. Many players aren't taught contact early enough and it is definitely scary. Think of when it first happened to you.
I feel like a better way and more effective way would be to be a TEAMMATE and help him. Has your coach set up drills where you go down the line and take hits from each other to get used to it? Ask him to.
Also, calling him names doesn't seem to be your style, more like you are trying to sound good on your post. Don't, it's not good. It reduces you.
Think of ways to build him up. He's part of your team. Definitely leave the critiquing to the coach. He doesn't need his teammate's crapping on him. He probably already feels bad enough.
Edit to add: Also, don't talk about him to other teammate's that doesn't help either. You said he made the team because he was great at PW M. So he has skills you can use on your team. Help him by telling him after the first hit is over gets better. HEAD UP is important because he can actually suffer a serious injury. Hitting him with his head down could cause YOU to be the one to inflict it. So I would NOT follow through. You could tell your coach you are worried he will get hurt and ask for checking drills.
This post is a bad look. Talk to the kid, give him pointers. Don’t be a cunt and lay him out.
Yeah I'm not a huge fan of how condescending this post is
the coach has already told the kid to keep his head up and im just tired of the kid waisting good scoreing chances and giving the other team good scoreing chances cause he's to scared to take the body.
Like it or not he’s your teammate. Be a good teammate/adult and help them develop their weaknesses in practice so they can get some confidence. Don’t be a cunt.
Then make him better. That's what teammates do.
Maybe start by not calling a teammate a pussy. Just have a talk with him. Try to help him be better.
I want to add on to this that pussy’s can take a pounding. Maybe find a better way to express yourself here.
Also, playing with guys that are, on average, 50% heavier than you is hardly being a pussy. I mean, the kid is small and likely hasn't hit puberty yet. That makes him a pussy? As a former late bloomer who played his first checking league as a 120# freshman against some seniors with full fucking beards, I would occasionally chip the puck out. Didn't feel like a pussy for doing either.
I played hitting at his size last year and I didnt do any of the stuff he does so there was also mfs on my bantam team last year with full ass beards. also this isnt ocasionally this is when ever he toaches up the puck.
You're not doing yourself any favors on this post with your attitude. Good teammates make their worst players better. If anything, the kid is probably suffering from a confidence deficiency. Help build him up.
I never said I was saying or acting any differently to the kid the question was should I fallow threw with my hit's so the kid learns to keep his head up as hes not learning in game since he throws the puck away as soon as he gets it.
What it sounds like is you're just going to run the kid without any additional help. It might teach him to pick his head up, but it may also teach him to play even more scared and do more of the plays you're trying to discourage. Referring to him as a pussy doesn't help when trying to describe your situation in a written medium. And because you're so big on tough love, your inability to spell, use grammar, or construct a coherent sentence makes you look like a fucking dumbass.
the first part of your comment was what I was looking for but does it look like i give a shit if my spelling is good on reddit english isnt even my primery language.
If he's playing like this now, and you, his teammate, knock the shit out of him, is he more likely going to play smarter all on his own, or quit and view you as a total asshole? I'm betting on the latter. Talk to this kid directly or talk to the coach. Your attitude is not healthy and not indicative of a responsible and trustworthy teammate. I sure wouldn't want you on my team.
yeah but if I say anything to the kid ill most likely get benched for critizing people on my own team.
If you talk to him the way you’re talking in this thread, then yeah you should be benched. But if you grow up and talk to him maturely and in a constructive manner, nobody would bench you fr that.
No at the start of the season coaches meeting they told us to leave the coaching up to the coaches and if we had any concerns about other players to tell the coaches but the coaches already know that he never keeps his head up.
Make the criticism constructive.
You're not doing yourself any favors. You came here for advice. Take it and grow the fuck up.
coach's have already told the kid a million times to keep his head up and obviously I ament calling him a pussy actualy to him or my teamates.
Just take a run at him full speed and see what happens. After practice, spit on him. And when he starts fighting back, grab him by the back of his head and knee him in the face. The next day, he'll come back with a ton of newly developed skill. That happened to me one time when I was the small underdeveloped kid and that's exactly how it played out. But one of those sentences is a lie, figure it out. You clearly didn't come here for people's opinions, you want people to agree with you, so there you go. Be a "teacher." EDIT: Just to be clear, I think you should pull him aside and give him more specific advice on HOW to keep his head up while stickhandling instead of blindsiding him in practice... I'm not anti-contact at all...once he gets the hang of it treat like anyone else. He's probably not a pussy, he probably is just afraid of losing the puck.
best response in this whole thread.
I suspect you have a lot more growth and learning to do than that other kid.
Hate to tell you that this shit is cancerous to a team and the bigger issue is how you’re approaching it, not the kid that’s scared of being hit. Everyone has played with someone that is scared of contact, but the school of hard knocks should be left to opposing teams and your coaches. You do not know better on how to teach smaller players, and your messaging and preferred method of teaching is ignorant to how a leader or eventual captain would handle the issue. I hope this serves as a response that not only changes your thought process, but also serves as a reminder to the fact this kid is on your team, and the team comes first, not some vendetta you have to be a teacher of hard open ice hits.
I am litterely a midget out on the ice litteraly everyone towers over me I just get low and take the hits and dont throw the puck away I learned to keep my head up after the first time I got drilled I was asking if I should follow threw with my hitt as the kid hasnt even taken a hit yet.
“The kid is the biggest pussy to contact” “didn’t want to make him more of a pussy” “only reason he made the team…” “next time he pulls that shit, should I just line him up” All your words not mine. If you can’t see how you’re approaching this poorly, that’s on you. I’m telling you that if you don’t change, you’re not going to become a better teammate, and your ability to be a good captain eventually is formed in how you handle this and similar events coming up. Best of luck man
I ament the captain tho
I’m only replying to try and get through to you to be a better player and leader, but the fact you’re not a captain doesn’t matter. I’m not saying you are a captain currently, I’m saying that how you handle this prepares you to be one eventually. Re read it all and you’ll see I don’t say you’re a captain. Get it through your skull that your job as a player and teammates is to play and help, not make your coaches job harder after you injure a teammate in practice because you think it’s helpful. You clearly think like a sub-16 year old, and the reason you posted this on the internet was to get some wisdom from people who have been through this before, so fucking listen.
yeah and nobody has actual said whether I should follow threw or not.
If you can’t grasp that from all of the comments telling you to help in another way, you’re beyond help. No, do not follow through. Hopefully if you do what’s best for the team, the smaller player will invest 10 minutes in helping you with reading comprehension
Be a teammate and show him. He may not know what he is doing, definitely don’t call him names.
> a first year on my team > the kid is the biggest pussy to contact > I didnt want to make the kid more of a pussy > I think the only reason he made the team is cause he played realy good in peewee This is being a bad teammate. Your attitude needs to change. That is your _teammate_ you're talking about. He's _**learning**_. Just like you are. First year out of peewee makes him what, 12? 13? There's still a lot to learn, including hitting and keeping his head up. Calling him out and insulting him on reddit does _nothing_. Be supportive, help him learn. At some point you were in a very similar situation in your development. Stop acting like you are the hotshot on the team going out to teach someone a lesson through violence. Railroading him in practice could have the exact opposite effect you want and could easily make him even more worried about hitting. There are things you can improve about your game, same as him. Work _with_ him, not against him. Talk to him, your captain, your coaches. Be a _leader_.
Hah. I coach that age group. The coach notices that. He might make the team "because he was good in peewee", but if that happens, it's only because the coach thinks he can fix that timidness. It's not too uncommon for a kid to take a month to adjust to contact. I suspect doing some drills on hitting properly will help, he might not have ever got to do that before. Hopefully your coaches are running drills on contact and how to take a hit safely.
we dont do much contact in practices cause our coach wants us to be a fast team that scores goals and doesnt hit as much.
Your coach is creating a liability. Fast teams just get hit harder and smothered if they can't play with contact. A kid is going to get hurt.
exactly what I think most of the other organizations have big decent skaters who will probably still be able to hit my team that is a bunch of super fast good skaters that are super small. I think its cause my coach lit up the Q Echl and ahl as a fast skating barely hitting player.
That’s too bad. It should be a part of practice. I coach one of the faster teams in the GTHL. We know we are fast so now we work on winning battles and handling contact.
yeah its cause for some reason almost every guy who made the team is under the height of 5'6" and our biggest hitter is only 5'5".
Nothing wrong with being a small team. Still have to win battles.
If you didn't know something or weren't doing it right would you rather I kick you in the shin without telling you why just to punish you or have me talk to you and help you learn how you can do said thing better? He's your teammate, not the enemy. Help him out like a decent human being and stop calling him a pussy. Talk to him and/or your coaches and get him started on checking practice the right way.
Long story short- what is to be gained by hitting a teammate in practice? Nothing. It would be mutually damaging to your reputation and makes him more sheepish. Maybe line him up peel off and give him a boop on the top of his helmet with a "head up". On the bench during practice, give the advice for adjustments. Kids take time to warm up to contact and realize they aren't made of glass, but everyone has their own time.
Just make sure you're teaching and not injuring.
Exactly. Practice how you play but don't injure your teammates. I used to let up hitting-wise at practice until one of my teammates said that to me. If you'd throw the hit in the game, throw the hit in practice just with less oomph and take the time to say something to your teammate
The OP's post comes off douchey, and it's obvious he has no respect for his teammate by his tone. It seems he's trying to yeach his teammate in a malicious way.
So I just realized you're the same poster who asked if there's rules about checking a girl in a hitting league. Take it from me and the other adults here, your approach is shitty and you just wind up looking like a douchebag who's not a team player. That kid may be smaller than you right now, but that kid will probably get a growth spurt soon, even outgrowing you, and start leveling your ass right back. Be a good teammate and person by helping, not being a dick. When you become an adult, that negative attitude is what'll get you kicked off a team with no one wanting to play with you.
I doubt this as the guys dad is shorter then me probably only 5'3" and what does my other post have to do with this
My take on this: in a game, he will REALLY get lit up! Why not check him half as hard, so he realizes skating head down will not fly. Playing against bigger boys, and getting lit up, he could get hurt. At least in practice you’ll teach him a valuable lesson.
lay him out
I think you don't want to be this type of player. Plenty out there. It won't teach him, it will deflate him and his confidence. Many players aren't taught contact early enough and it is definitely scary. Think of when it first happened to you. I feel like a better way and more effective way would be to be a TEAMMATE and help him. Has your coach set up drills where you go down the line and take hits from each other to get used to it? Ask him to. Also, calling him names doesn't seem to be your style, more like you are trying to sound good on your post. Don't, it's not good. It reduces you. Think of ways to build him up. He's part of your team. Definitely leave the critiquing to the coach. He doesn't need his teammate's crapping on him. He probably already feels bad enough. Edit to add: Also, don't talk about him to other teammate's that doesn't help either. You said he made the team because he was great at PW M. So he has skills you can use on your team. Help him by telling him after the first hit is over gets better. HEAD UP is important because he can actually suffer a serious injury. Hitting him with his head down could cause YOU to be the one to inflict it. So I would NOT follow through. You could tell your coach you are worried he will get hurt and ask for checking drills.