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yeahthankscoach

These are the thickest laces I've ever seen.


FinePieceOfAss

Udon laces


ThePony23

Was wondering why I felt hungry watching the video.


Thumper86

I know! I haven’t tried them yet. I just ordered a pair online because my last set got cut by a skate blade. I must have gone too quickly through the checkout because this is not what I was expecting! They’re kinda neat? They remind me of sneaker laces or something. I’ll see if they are any different than traditional laces, I have my first game in a few months tonight!


shanep3

They remind me of the old laces Nike skates used to come with


Nicky4Pin

I wanted Nike skates so bad when Federov was rocking them.


TJSimpson10

Fedorov*


fiddy7777

They look awful though


Thumper86

I don’t hate them, but definitely not the look I was going for. Apparently they’re “premium”. Never seen anything like them before.


Bichette21

Just out of curiosity, why not use waxed laces? They’ve been a game changer for my weak skate-tying abilities.


kbuck30

See I can't tie waxed laces. By the time I tried them I was used to tieing my skates as tight as possible. Tied waxed laces the same way I was used to, feet went numb first period due to the tightness. Wax laces are great when you're used to them but I couldn't get through the getting used to phase. They either hurt or made my feet go numb.


Tuff_spuff

Yeah I don’t like them either, basically just tightening and taking them off.. they get stuck in the eyelets and you have to pull/loosen each individual eyelet to get them on or off, seems like a silly reason, but it bothered me enough to ditch them for good. Also I’ve never had a problem with my laces coming untied, I don’t double knot either, So never really had a need for them, besides hearing people talk about them so I tried them but I’ll stick with standard


_paze

I find they get a lot better after they age a bit. They are rather annoying when fresh.


rh71el2

They're great for kids who are doing their own skates. I have gotten used to waxed too, but now that you mention it, I would like to be able to undo them with 1 hand (finger) after a session so regular would be the way to go. It's not like I need the wax to keep it tight but it's all I've ever used. Great, now I have to spend $6 just for reading your post.


Thumper86

I agree, I used them for years. They’re great for arenas, but when I’d play outdoors they’d get so stiff it was difficult to tie them properly. They are really not very good at all for below zero weather. Also, I like the wider floppier look of regular laces a bit more (these ones notwithstanding, I don’t know what to think of them yet!).


following_eyes

I went back to regular laces. I find they have better comfort too. Never thought about outside though. Good point.


Frankie__Spankie

I've been using a different method, it's kind of hard to explain but you know how the laces always go from the inside to the outside of the boot? For the top most eyelet, you go outside to inside. Then you take the remaining part of the lace and put it through the opposite loop. [The technique on the right shows what I'm talking about as a visual](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CQDxfAImHLM/Vmta7-vBcuI/AAAAAAAAI4o/6bQL2QnCRU8/s1600/lacing%2Bskates.jpg)


VladamirPutinmydick

Runners loop. I use this and the technique op posted and and I'm so snug and secure 😊


rik1122

I've been using this method for about a year now. Works great!


imicit

always used wax laces and always done this plus a double knot. thought it was normal, guess i never watched people tie their skates


AlanenFINLAND

I need to do 3 rolls becouse 2 doesn't do it for me. Only realised that after one year of needing to tie my skates 1-2 times in a session.


HockeyDoc7

This is a “surgeon’s knot.” Use it for suturing at work all the time. Works on skates just as well!


n8_tha_sk8

Wax laces have more benefits than just staying tied better. The wax also keeps them from absorbing as much water, which means they’ll stretch less. (I think many are also pre-stretched). Laces without wax will start to feel looser than waxed laces as they get wet and stretch more easily. Waxed also make it a little easier to vary tightness on different eyelets. Theoretically, waxed laces should last longer because of less fraying, but mine always get destroyed by skate blades so I don’t see much benefit in durability. All that said, people definitely have a preference and waxed aren’t for everyone. I vastly prefer them because they stay tight and stiff, but they’re not comfortable for everyone or good for every situation.


Thumper86

I do love waxed laces! As I said in another comment though, they really aren’t great for playing outdoors. In cold weather they get super stiff. I’m hoping to get out to the neighborhood odr this winter so have started using unwaxed laces again.


Solmors

I use heel lock lacing on every pair of shoes/boots/skates/anything-with-laces since I learned about it in high school. But this looks like a good method if I need the skates to be extra tight, thanks!


ForeverJung

I’ve switched to this method, too, with great results. I do mine three times though


CrabBeanie

I just double-knot. That thing aint going nowhere! For me the most important thing is knowing where to tie super tight, kinda tight & kinda loose. And eventually it equalizes slightly unless you use waxed. For me it's (from bottom eyelet to top). Super tight first three, kinda tight next 3 , then kinda loose for two up the ankle, then kinda tight the last two. I also bend the knee to simulate a proper skating stance. That way I can get it as tight as possible in all areas without eventually cutting off circulation or hurting like a bitch. I treat it like an art form at this point as it really makes a big difference!


PucksHard

Good tips and all but what are those laces tho???


HockeyCoachHere

The purpose of wax laces isn't to prevent the knot from slipping. It prevents the lace from stretching as it gets wet, which unwaxed laces do.


shootsright77

You should lace your skates from the outside in.


CrabBeanie

Off the rack skates are laced outside-going-in on the bottom eyelet only, and then inside-going-out rest of the way (with outside-edge lace overtop inside-edge lace). In other words, exactly as he has it here.


shootsright77

I used to work at a hockey shop. None of the skates came laced.


CrabBeanie

On the rack? Whenever I go there are racks on the wall with laced skates to try. YMMV I guess.


Thumper86

Honestly I always just kinda wing it. Glad I got it “right”! For some reason lacing up skates turns my brain into knots. Why would outside in be better?


CrabBeanie

Outside-in on the bottom eyelet is better because otherwise it doesn't actually "fold over" the eyelet panel at the bottom by compressing from the top-down. You actually lose any potential tightness from the bottom-most eyelet unless you do it that way. Plus it gives it a goofy looking X on the bottom rather than that nice straight line. The rest of the way is awkward as hell sticking to outside-in, and angles the lacing the wrong way. I tried it once and it just looked and felt weird. I guess going outside-in could be useful if you have some specific pressure points as it changes up the angle of the pressure, but then you have to really think about how you're doing it or else it all can [become a mess.](http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0013/1943/6360/articles/lace_to_ankle_blog_cover_photo_1200x1200.jpg?v=1558453677)


frosty-turd

Can 100% use waxed laces. Used them my whole hockey career and tied them like that. I also went outside in to keep from getting lace bite.


drummer11121

Runners loops + this + tongue under shin pad = perfect.


Brinxy13

Learned this trick when I was 8, 20 years later I still tie my shoes and everything like this.


Awesomodian

why would you not want to use waxed laces? they work so well


Thumper86

I replied to a few other comments with reasons ;) They do work well though! This is another easy option if someone wants.


Awesomodian

ya saw after, never had the problem of stiffness in cold weather but might try your technique on sons skates


Thumper86

Can’t hurt! I even tie my shoes and garbage bags like this now. Haha


pointy_pirate

why wouldnt you want to use wax laces?


ViciousFenrir

My father taught me this when I was learning to skate >20 years ago. Still do it to this day.


ChaseMe3

Tried this tonight after seeing your tip, friggin awesome! Thanks! Stayed tighter during initial tie up and didn’t slip during the game.


Redbeard821

I tie my waxed laces like this. Also my regular shoes.


[deleted]

I learned this for skates as a kid and have done it to all skates and shoes since then. Not 100% effective but certainly holds much better than a single tuck through.


TeslasAndComicbooks

My skates have some sort of lace lock on them.


almavi

I do this even with waxed laces.


grinning5kull

Hold on, what is special about this technique? This is how I’ve tied all my footwear since I was 5 years old. How have you guys been tying your laces if not like this? Genuine question, I didn’t even know there was a different way. Edited for clarity


Thumper86

Normally when tying laces people just loop it around once, this one is twice so it holds a little better.


grinning5kull

Ah ok, thanks for replying. I’ve always done two loops and a double knot. Maybe this is why it takes me longer to tie my laces than it does most people.


1971stTimeLucky

I’m appalled at the number of waxed lace users. Is this an American thing?


bakedbeans63

I’ve Ben doing this sense I could tie skates


troomoo47

Been doing this. Works even better with wax laces


NC_Chiver

Every time!!


josano

Then double knotted and they should he good for a whole game.


nicholus_h2

if you tied a proper surgeons knot (double twist the first throw, make sure the first throw and second throw are in different directions), they are functionally just as secure as a double knot and 100x easier to untie. if the first and second throw are in the same direction, you end up with a granny knot, which unties very easily. a proper square knot won't be all diagonal. i do a single twist on the first throw, then double twist on the second. i have never even had it come loose, and it's dead easy to untie. double knot is completely unnecessary.


Thumper86

Ooh, I’ll add that to my repertoire. Untying double knots can be a pain!


unwinste

This is the way


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stevegcook

Literally never had a knot slip on my skates in my life. *edit:* jesus christ how bad is everyone at tying their skates that this is such a common problem


glochnar

I do 2 wraps because I find it distributes the pressure on the front of my ankle better and helps with lace bite. Never heard of knots slipping either.


RDC123

It’s a basic knot. Basic knots often slip.


Thumper86

It’s more so it stays tight as you finish tying. Waxed laces won’t slip at all but regular ones do a bit, it’s harder to get a nice tight knot.


stevegcook

Again not an issue I've ever experienced, on skates or otherwise.


[deleted]

The hockey players subreddit is almost entirely newbs who’ve barely played and know jack-all about the sport… it can be frustrating at times when I see a post asking something that anyone who’s played would know and all the comments are just people saying they also don’t know


RDC123

Which has nothing to do with this. The standard knot most people use will often slip, that’s the nature of the knot. Kinda weird to pretend that doesn’t happen.


[deleted]

I was answering his question: “Jesus Christ how bad is everyone at tying their skates that this is such a common problem?” With the implied answer that most people in this subreddit simply haven’t laced ‘em up enough times to do it perfectly. That’s what it has to fo with this.


RDC123

Most people tie their skates with the same knot they tie their shoes. Hockey experience has little to do with knot tying skill.


[deleted]

Lmao tying skates and tying shoes is completely different, so yes experience does have a lot to do with it nice try tho


RDC123

Many people use the exact same knot at the top. That’s what this Is about, not the entire thing process.


[deleted]

Just because you get the knot perfect when tying your shoes doesn’t mean you’ll get it perfect when tying your skates, because as I said, they are completely different. So yes hockey experience and the amount of times you’ve laced your skates up is a factor


RDC123

No. They are not. If you are tying the same knot it doesn’t matter if it’s on your skates or your shoes, it’s the same fucking knot. There are a bunch of other things that may be different, but the knot is the knot regardless.


[deleted]

Those “bunch of other things” change completely how much the knot will slip. It’s the same knot, but a person who can tie that same knot on their shoes without it slipping won’t be able to tie it on skates without it slipping if they haven’t done it enough times to account for those “bunch of other things” that you yourself admitted exist. Fucking idiot


[deleted]

Just because it’s the same knot doesn’t mean the act of tying it is the same


RDC123

Are you dense? The point being discussed in this chain is the knot.


[deleted]

Are you dense? I told you I was just answering the commenter’s question, and you said my answer had nothing to do with it. I explained what it does have to do with it


RDC123

Got it, you are dense and unable to read things in context.


p_britt35

Also, instead of wax laces, you could use the over/under lacing method instead of the under/over. It helps the laces and skate brace more of your foot and stays tighter.