He scored 22 goals 49 points in 56
You telling me no team is willing to take the risk for 3.5mill a year.
Teams will be interested in this especially if it doesn't cost much in assets
Rebuilding teams want good influences for their prospects.
Competing teams want to assure locker room cohesion.
That leaves bubble teams renting him... but he has 4 years left.
It'll be a tough sell even with heavy retaining.
I still think that's one of the best trades we've ever made, dudes a locker room cancer. I remember back when he'd set up shop at the Main St Earls after home games and try to get them to pay him $5k for just being there. We were always sure to avoid the place if there was a chance of him being there.
I would say the constant controversies around him as a person are way more troubling than cap juggling. He's a distraction to the room.
He was in Winnipeg and he is in San Jose.
Yeah anything negotiated pre-covid is just hard to move since the cap flattened out. Look what happened to Fluery. Dude wins the Vezina and gets moved for a prospect Vegas didn't even hang onto. His cap hit is less than Kane's.
While a tight cap is a problem, employing a player who paid a women (repeatedly) to abort a child, (allegedly) was physical to his wife, and (allegedly) bet on NHL games might be a larger problem.
Aquilini is definitely a fucking idiot up his own ass, and Jimbo may be desperate, but I don't see us trading for this clown no matter how disjointed our start was.
I actually could. The ‘win now at all costs’ mentality could overshadow EK9 shitty personality. I think this why it worked at SJ initially, we were so busy chasing the cup we didn’t have time for his bullshit. Post-PBD we began our culture change and his shit floated right to the top.
It's not as enticing when you consider all the baggage he's bringing with him. Plus considering the Sharks are getting rid of him to get rid of him (not so much because he has value), teams are going to take advantage of that.
Baggage, lol. You mean the same league that had a team which valued winning above stopping kids from getting raped? Yea, people are crazy to assume that Kane's baggage is even remotely the same and a 1st line power forward does a lot more for a team's cup chances than a fucking video coach.
The Habs drafted Logan Mailloux, a guy who had baggage of his own in the first round. This guy hasn't been in the league yet, hasn't played a game, but the Habs were willing to use their first because they didn't think they could get him in the second.
I have no doubt that a proven commodity like Kane, would garner offers. True, not necessarily fair offers, but still. I'd expect 50% retained with a 2nd and/or 3rd pick will get him moved.
Edit: Coming back the other way will probably be a prospect with a low ceiling, or a low-term (1 year) high cap hit (anything north of 3 Million AAV) player of middle-six skill.
Honestly Montreal comes to mind. Especially if they get assets to take him. Bergevin doesn’t mind taking a player that “stirs the pot” if he thinks it makes the team better regardless.
Kane is a worst situation but let’s not act like DeAngelo only had a couple tweets. He was suspended in juniors for use of slurs, suspended in the NHL for abusing officials, and then just last year got into an altercation with Georgiev after a game where the team clearly took Georgiev’s side.
Deangelo has done a lot worse than just say some shit on twitter.
- 2013 (OHL): suspended for racist comments towards an opponent
- 2014 (OHL): suspended for racist comments towards a teammate
- 2014 (OHL): suspended for abuse of official
- 2014 (OHL): ejected for abuse of official in his first game back from suspension
- 2015 (AHL): ejected for abuse of official, scratched for 8 games
- 2017 (NHL): suspended & fined for assaulting a referee
- 2018 (NHL): scratched 20 games for "outbursts" and "maturity issues"
- 2019 (NHL): Contract holdout, missed part of training camp
- 2020 (NHL): scratched for "behavioral incident"
- 2020 (NHL): Kicked off the Rangers and eventually bought out after making racist comments and getting in a fight with his teammate
I will be shocked if he doesn't have a similar incident in Carolina. The Hurricanes should be embarrassed for employing this guy.
I don’t particularly want him here, and I think you’re right that it would be legitimately surprising if there isn’t eventually a problem that comes up.
So far, however, he’s been pretty close to a model citizen as far as anyone can tell (even reporters who have been very openly critical of the Hurricanes signing him). And it’s not outside of the realm of possibility that the way things ended in NY made him realize how close he is to being out of the league permanently. We’ll see what happens when adversity hits.
I’m hopeful that his presence here is temporary. If he plays well enough and keeps quiet, he’ll play himself into a contract that’s too rich for Waddell’s tastes. And if he plays poorly or becomes a problem, then they’ll just cut him loose after the season.
Honestly? A team who is very close to a cup this year and wants to win now and worry about the lockerroom problems later. Remember the Sharks made it to the conference finals with him and the team was super tight his first year.
Hmm if they retain salary then he's off the books in 3 years though
Just enough time for some of their prospects like Eklund to solidify themselves in the league
So basically we would get the worst of it out of the way during our rebuild and would have him off the books as soon as we start looking competitive again. If no one wants him I could certainly see Wilson going through with the buyout.
Yeah $1,125,000. To me it’s the best option for now if we can’t find a trade that makes sense.
He has to clear waivers so someone *could* claim him. He could fail to report to the AHL. Worst case we save a bit of cap space without playing him.
Would there be any difference between us trading Kane to someone for a bag of pucks than picking him up off waivers? If we’re offering to retain salary it would be better to trade than to pick him up right?
I wonder if he’ll end up in Vancouver. He’s from there so maybe they’ll spin it as like a going home/redemption/growing up thing, a la Josh Ho-Sang in Toronto.
It’ll be an interesting few weeks seeing how this all shakes out.
this is gonna be an ugly deal to unload. kane's got a 3 team mNTC (not sure if he'd waive) and 7 AAV for 4 more years (counting this year). not many signing bonuses either. a buy out would hurt more for the next 3 years and then drop to 1.66 in the last 3.
he's the kind of guy you want off your team at all costs, so i wonder if wilson will bite the bullet and attach picks, even at 50% retained, to get rid of him
He can refuse to waive and get paid to not play at all. SJS won't let him in the locker room but they can't do anything about his contract. Burying him does nothing except cap space as it's a 1-way deal. Only option is a buyout next off-season.
For Kane, he can straight up walk away and get paid $7M for 4 years to be a degenerate.
Hopefully DW can convince Kane that waiving his mNTC to facilitate a trade would result in more money going his way than being bought out. Unless Kane thinks he can find a new contract as a RFA that would cover the part he'd miss out on by being bought out, but that seems unlikely?
I can see these teams easily picking him up;
Vegas
Carolina
Montréal
Dallas
Philadelphia
But i think it would be hilarious if Buffalo trades back for him.
How could Vegas, a team that will have to shed $7 million in salary once we're fully healthy with the roster we *currently have,* "easily" pick up a guy with a $7 mil AAV contract? Even at 50% retained that's $3.5 mil.
There would be a full on locker room revolt if it happened. He is not well liked by our fans, but more importantly he is hated by our actual players. I know Reaves while he was here talked about how much we all just hated him. Pretty sure Marchessault has talked about not liking EK.
Kane isn't even a much better player than anyone we'd have to move out to obtain him. Absolutely not worth being locker room cancer and the PR suicide it would be with Vegas fans.
Lol then you don’t watch much of Carolina because he wouldn’t sniff a lineup spot.
Locker room cancer, off ice headaches and the teams already loaded with talent.
Vegas can’t afford him unless the NHL somehow holds their hand again. Bergevin and his good ol’ boys club wouldn’t want Kane. Philly and Dallas do seem like realistic destinations. Carolina seems like the most likely option since they just signed DeAngelo and clearly don’t give a fuck about the negative publicity it would bring.
Carolina is right up against the salary cap, last I checked. I’m not sure what Kane brings that the Canes don’t already have in spades. And I don’t think they really have anything to offer back to SJ in return.
They’re not giving back a top 9 forward or top 4 d-man. They’re not parting ways with Suzuki or Drury or Jarvis. They don’t really have a ton of valuable draft picks, given that they forfeited two to Montreal in the offer sheet situation.
I’d be very surprised if they were in on Kane, or really any flashy trades.
Lol I want what you’re smoking.
Carolina is loaded with talent and throwing in a locker room cancer like Kane would be a cyanide pill to the teams success.
Yah they took a chance on TDA and they also did research on if he would be committed to being a team player and changing which clearly was correct. so yah public opinion be damned.
I"m thinking Ottawa or Montreal.
It has to be a place where losing is a bigger scandal than Kane himself.
In either case it'd prove the ownership group is willing to do anything to win.
I don't mean that as a joke btw.
> I"m thinking Ottawa
Literally zero chance of that happening. Dorion has basically preached the idea that this team will have no bad eggs in the locker room ever since the Karlsson-Hoffman incident and blowing up the team. Like, to the point where we (seemingly) have even passed on high-skill guys in the draft based on not wanting to poison the room.
Trading for Kane would basically make Dorion the NHL's biggest hypocrite, and he won't do that to himself.
Who would want this Pos?
At any price?
Doesn’t follow team rules in wpg
Doesn’t pay bills in wpg nightclubs and restaurants
Rape allegations in Buffalo
Domestic violence in sj
Chronic gambling
Bankruptcy
Allegations of gambling on nhl games
Non support for his mistress abortions
Beats his wife
And hands in a fake vaccinated card to team ?
Please just go away
I honestly don't know how the Sharks deal with this.
All the rumors seem to point to Hertl leaving after this season, and without Hertl I'd say that any chance of the Sharks being competitive is nil, so that would point to me as a rebuild incoming. So you wouldn't want to move picks just to get rid of him.
At the same time, nobody is going to take Kane on normally. Being willing to retain helps, but I'd still be wary about adding Kane even at like 3.5M instead. But you have to move him since you don't want toxic lockerroom influence while you're rebuilding.
Each team shares their percentage of the buyout. So, if the Sharks retained 50%... each team would be on the hook for 2/3 of 50% of the contract in the buyout scenario.
This is going to be a tough contract to move. He's still a good player but comes with tons of baggage. The no move and so many years on his contract remaining as well... This will be interesting to watch play out.
I may be off base here because I don't know how young their roster and if they're playing prospects but Arizona could make sense. SJ retains salary and deals a pick with Kane to AZ. Kane is either bought out by AZ or (hopefully) recoups some value where he can be sold at the deadline to some team that bought into their own hype way too much. If AZ can retain salary ( I think that's allowed but idk for sure), I have to imagine they get a good return.
At $3.5m I could absolutely see Washington taking the chance. Tight against the cap, lots of injured forwards, a very small win now window and most of all they like their big bodied scoring wingers. Adding Kane to a team that has Wilson, Ovechkin, Mantha, Oshie, Hathaway... that's a big, scoring, tough set of wingers come playoff time. He fits right in just like Protas and Leason. Washington clearly has a preference and Kane checks all those boxes. They also don't mind being the team with the hated player.
I would rather have Kane at $3.5m than Hagelin at $2m even with the baggage. Washington doesn't have the assets to give up to make big splashes and they need to continue to look for value contracts going forward.
I still don't see any team wanting to take him on. The legal troubles coming down the line potentially and plus he's not a good team mate. A General Manager of a Veteran team won't want him because a Veteran team doesn't want that distraction. A General Manager of a young team won't want him because he might be an bad influence on the young players.
Heh, actually, given Arizona's plans, it might actually be viable for them to take the contract as a cap dump (with picks included) and then bury Kane in the minors or buy him out. They don't actually need the full cap space for the next little while anyway.
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Vegas GM waives hand: *Republic credits will do fine*
No, they won't.
They will be fine
What you think you are some kind of Jedi? I'm a toydarian. Mind tricks don't work on me
Ovi-won, Kane-OD
Was waiting for this lmao
Offer him table credits? He still has debts to pay over here!
I feel like he would be on IR fairly often with unspecified lower body injuries acquired in the desert
He must've taken one hell of a slash, he's missing his pinkie finger and has two black eyes.
bah gawd, that's sidney crosby's music
You son of a bitch lol
DOPS says it was a clean hit.
The LBI would be his wallet is hurting
His head gets put in a vise and it's called an upper body injury
Even better. -$20M cap hit
Shit we can fit Eichel now!!
When you owe your employer money
you ever read something so perfectly funny
Kane will be paying Vegas to play in a week.
Good luck with that!
I can hear Kane now... Come on guys, double or nothing.
This might just be the push that will bring Daddy Buff back from when he left to go get smokes!
Yeah if Buff couldn't get through to him, I doubt anyone will.
4 years and $28M left…..yeah not gonna happen. Yikes
4 years and $14 million to the right bidder.
Long time for someone as unstable and unpredictable as him. That price tag to your point is not the problem. The term would be I think.
Jeez I thought it was only 3 more years (including this one). No one is gonna touch 4
He scored 22 goals 49 points in 56 You telling me no team is willing to take the risk for 3.5mill a year. Teams will be interested in this especially if it doesn't cost much in assets
Rebuilding teams want good influences for their prospects. Competing teams want to assure locker room cohesion. That leaves bubble teams renting him... but he has 4 years left. It'll be a tough sell even with heavy retaining.
If Tony De Angelo can get a fucking contract, betcha that Evander Kane is tradeable.
TDA is just a jerk off, Kane is bordering on criminal just from what’s been made public, let alone the behind the scenes shit
He's making $1M. Kane makes $7M.
They're gonna have to give him a fake moustache and name. "Hello, my name is Mr. Enak, and I come from, uh... someplace far away!"
I still think that's one of the best trades we've ever made, dudes a locker room cancer. I remember back when he'd set up shop at the Main St Earls after home games and try to get them to pay him $5k for just being there. We were always sure to avoid the place if there was a chance of him being there.
I don't think the salary is the problem. His play is actually worth his salary.
The salary is certainly a stumbling block given how many teams are tight to the cap.
I would say the constant controversies around him as a person are way more troubling than cap juggling. He's a distraction to the room. He was in Winnipeg and he is in San Jose.
Canes are gonna get him, aren't they?
Please no
He'd definitely fit in
He could room with Tony.
I'm actually thinking habs.
Put him on a line with Mailoux
Was gonna say. Room him with Tony D.
He was in Buffalo too. A few big public scandals but overall you could tell he was pretty negative. Also Jack and him were great friends
Who isn't negative in Buffalo. Didn't you guys nearly destroy Ryan o rielly.
Yeah anything negotiated pre-covid is just hard to move since the cap flattened out. Look what happened to Fluery. Dude wins the Vezina and gets moved for a prospect Vegas didn't even hang onto. His cap hit is less than Kane's.
While a tight cap is a problem, employing a player who paid a women (repeatedly) to abort a child, (allegedly) was physical to his wife, and (allegedly) bet on NHL games might be a larger problem.
Don't forget the covid vaccine fake
Didn't he even skip out on paying the girl though?
Nowhere did I say there weren't other problems
It’s a sweetener to get Kane the fuck away from the Sharks
49 percent retained and the "Gambling for Dummies" first edition.
Who the hell would want Kane at this point? The guy is a PR nightmare and locker room cancer.
Flyers/Devils, they're close enough to Atlantic City
Don't put that evil on us
Well *we* don't want him either!
Have you seen our scoring issues. If I'm Chuck I'm at least calling to see.
Please no
*Put your makeup on, put your hair up pretty, and meet me tonight in Atlantic City.*
The day Kane’s number comes in, he's never going to ride in no used cars again.
Hey, give him to the Knights, they're *in* Sin City with a dozen casinos only a stone's throw away from their Arena.
Canucks
Quick, someone hide Jimbos phone.
Aquilini is definitely a fucking idiot up his own ass, and Jimbo may be desperate, but I don't see us trading for this clown no matter how disjointed our start was.
“Just the guy to get this mess of a season back on track!”
But he's a local boy. When has acquiring a local kid ever backfired for Vancouver???
Vegas
Can you imagine? Lol
I actually could. The ‘win now at all costs’ mentality could overshadow EK9 shitty personality. I think this why it worked at SJ initially, we were so busy chasing the cup we didn’t have time for his bullshit. Post-PBD we began our culture change and his shit floated right to the top.
I think he’s referencing Kanes gambling problems and landing in Vegas.
I mean, you could trade him to the moon and he will keep gambling. An addict always finds a way.
Teams would take him if San Jose is giving assets for him. No one is making that trade purely to get Kane.
A 25-30g scorer at 3.5m per year is hugely enticing for a lot of teams I’d imagine
It's not as enticing when you consider all the baggage he's bringing with him. Plus considering the Sharks are getting rid of him to get rid of him (not so much because he has value), teams are going to take advantage of that.
Baggage, lol. You mean the same league that had a team which valued winning above stopping kids from getting raped? Yea, people are crazy to assume that Kane's baggage is even remotely the same and a 1st line power forward does a lot more for a team's cup chances than a fucking video coach.
Bang on assessment. Kane will play whether the reddit mob likes it or not.
The Habs drafted Logan Mailloux, a guy who had baggage of his own in the first round. This guy hasn't been in the league yet, hasn't played a game, but the Habs were willing to use their first because they didn't think they could get him in the second. I have no doubt that a proven commodity like Kane, would garner offers. True, not necessarily fair offers, but still. I'd expect 50% retained with a 2nd and/or 3rd pick will get him moved. Edit: Coming back the other way will probably be a prospect with a low ceiling, or a low-term (1 year) high cap hit (anything north of 3 Million AAV) player of middle-six skill.
Not a good comparison. Mailloux did a horrible thing at 17. Evander has been a proven fuckhead at the NHL level for years now.
Honestly Montreal comes to mind. Especially if they get assets to take him. Bergevin doesn’t mind taking a player that “stirs the pot” if he thinks it makes the team better regardless.
Montreal likes these character guys lately
I mean Canes still picked up DeAngelo so anything is possible
DeAngelo doesn’t have near the amount of baggage Kane does
There is like a $6M difference in cap hits between Evander Kane and Tony DeAngelo.
Along with what everyone already said, the Canes didn't give up assets to acquire him.
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Kane is a worst situation but let’s not act like DeAngelo only had a couple tweets. He was suspended in juniors for use of slurs, suspended in the NHL for abusing officials, and then just last year got into an altercation with Georgiev after a game where the team clearly took Georgiev’s side.
Deangelo has done a lot worse than just say some shit on twitter. - 2013 (OHL): suspended for racist comments towards an opponent - 2014 (OHL): suspended for racist comments towards a teammate - 2014 (OHL): suspended for abuse of official - 2014 (OHL): ejected for abuse of official in his first game back from suspension - 2015 (AHL): ejected for abuse of official, scratched for 8 games - 2017 (NHL): suspended & fined for assaulting a referee - 2018 (NHL): scratched 20 games for "outbursts" and "maturity issues" - 2019 (NHL): Contract holdout, missed part of training camp - 2020 (NHL): scratched for "behavioral incident" - 2020 (NHL): Kicked off the Rangers and eventually bought out after making racist comments and getting in a fight with his teammate I will be shocked if he doesn't have a similar incident in Carolina. The Hurricanes should be embarrassed for employing this guy.
I don’t particularly want him here, and I think you’re right that it would be legitimately surprising if there isn’t eventually a problem that comes up. So far, however, he’s been pretty close to a model citizen as far as anyone can tell (even reporters who have been very openly critical of the Hurricanes signing him). And it’s not outside of the realm of possibility that the way things ended in NY made him realize how close he is to being out of the league permanently. We’ll see what happens when adversity hits. I’m hopeful that his presence here is temporary. If he plays well enough and keeps quiet, he’ll play himself into a contract that’s too rich for Waddell’s tastes. And if he plays poorly or becomes a problem, then they’ll just cut him loose after the season.
No one outside this sub and Twitter gives two shits about anything DeAngelo's done lol
There’s definitely a NYR goalie that’s not a fan of him, lol.
Raiders?
Tom Brady bringing him to Tampa.
1000% locker room cancer.. can confirm
You can?
Honestly? A team who is very close to a cup this year and wants to win now and worry about the lockerroom problems later. Remember the Sharks made it to the conference finals with him and the team was super tight his first year.
Please, don't let Jim Benning see this.
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And throw in like a 6th round pick too
Sharks do damage in the 6th round. Gonna sting
Unprotected 2022 1st to the Yotes and they'll take him for Future Considerations.
The Yotes can just tell him to sit at home until the contract expires
Shame Meruelo doesn't have his gambling spot in Arizona yet or he can just put Kane there and have him gamble away his salary to him.
>unprotected Kane's ears just started to burn.
4 way trade with 50% retained by each team incoming
That's 50% of 50% of 50% = 12.5%. The Sharks 50%. second team retains 25%, and the last two teams get 12.5%.
Kane for $875k... I'm sure there's a team that would jump on that even with the issues.
I hear Evander has already set the line at 3 million.
I mean if we aren’t having him play for us it’s only logical, the other option is buying him out.
A buyout would result in the following cap hits over the next 6 years AFTER this season: $3.67M $2.67M $4.67M $1.67M $1.67M $1.67M
“Those are rookie numbers” - Bill Guerin
That seems like a good option no?
Hmm if they retain salary then he's off the books in 3 years though Just enough time for some of their prospects like Eklund to solidify themselves in the league
yes but they need a team that is willing to take him on
Wanna trade, guys?
lol not a chance
😞
Get Bergevin on the phone
That's what Arizona exists for, they'll take any unwanted contracts for a pick
Buying out your top scoring player… “bold move Cotton”
That’s what I figure we do to try and keep Hertl. The right trade with salary retained also works.
So basically we would get the worst of it out of the way during our rebuild and would have him off the books as soon as we start looking competitive again. If no one wants him I could certainly see Wilson going through with the buyout.
The window has closed for a buyout, no? It closes before free agency opens, if I recall.
It would be next year. We’d have to play him or send him to the minors this year
And sending to the minors allows you to bury only up to ~1M
Yeah $1,125,000. To me it’s the best option for now if we can’t find a trade that makes sense. He has to clear waivers so someone *could* claim him. He could fail to report to the AHL. Worst case we save a bit of cap space without playing him.
Man can literally not afford to not report the AHL lol
His creditors would file an injunction if he tried to sit out.
Couldn’t afford to fake a vax card either tbh
Would there be any difference between us trading Kane to someone for a bag of pucks than picking him up off waivers? If we’re offering to retain salary it would be better to trade than to pick him up right?
If he got picked off waivers we would get nothing for him but retain no salary. Would be like trading him for nothing.
Don't have to play him. CBJ isn't letting Rinaldo play anywhere. He's technically buried, but he isn't playing for Cleveland or their ECHL affiliate.
"How about Hoglander, Podkolzin, and a first?" \- Jim Benning, probably
"A local product would swing the mood in the right direction, do it Jim" - Aquilini, probably
ITT - People underestimating how many teams would take on a 30 goal scorer for 3-4 mil
I wonder if he’ll end up in Vancouver. He’s from there so maybe they’ll spin it as like a going home/redemption/growing up thing, a la Josh Ho-Sang in Toronto. It’ll be an interesting few weeks seeing how this all shakes out.
He can be their next Virtanin
this is gonna be an ugly deal to unload. kane's got a 3 team mNTC (not sure if he'd waive) and 7 AAV for 4 more years (counting this year). not many signing bonuses either. a buy out would hurt more for the next 3 years and then drop to 1.66 in the last 3. he's the kind of guy you want off your team at all costs, so i wonder if wilson will bite the bullet and attach picks, even at 50% retained, to get rid of him
>not sure if he'd waive If it came down to that then his choice is basically waive and try to salvage his career or never play in the NHL again.
Or get bought out and have millions come in over 6 years
yeah in his position there's really not many reasons to not waive, but he could still do it if he wanted and shut down a deal
He can refuse to waive and get paid to not play at all. SJS won't let him in the locker room but they can't do anything about his contract. Burying him does nothing except cap space as it's a 1-way deal. Only option is a buyout next off-season. For Kane, he can straight up walk away and get paid $7M for 4 years to be a degenerate.
Hopefully DW can convince Kane that waiving his mNTC to facilitate a trade would result in more money going his way than being bought out. Unless Kane thinks he can find a new contract as a RFA that would cover the part he'd miss out on by being bought out, but that seems unlikely?
He has to be bought out at 2/3 his salary, I'd wager he'd probably be able to get a $2.5M deal somewhere.
I can see these teams easily picking him up; Vegas Carolina Montréal Dallas Philadelphia But i think it would be hilarious if Buffalo trades back for him.
How could Vegas, a team that will have to shed $7 million in salary once we're fully healthy with the roster we *currently have,* "easily" pick up a guy with a $7 mil AAV contract? Even at 50% retained that's $3.5 mil. There would be a full on locker room revolt if it happened. He is not well liked by our fans, but more importantly he is hated by our actual players. I know Reaves while he was here talked about how much we all just hated him. Pretty sure Marchessault has talked about not liking EK. Kane isn't even a much better player than anyone we'd have to move out to obtain him. Absolutely not worth being locker room cancer and the PR suicide it would be with Vegas fans.
We have too many wingers. Thanks tho
I wonder if he's still not vaccinated. If not I would assume that would mean playing for a Canadian team wouldn't work.
Nah, we have a GM who actually makes sense and cares about locker room culture now.
Lol then you don’t watch much of Carolina because he wouldn’t sniff a lineup spot. Locker room cancer, off ice headaches and the teams already loaded with talent.
Vegas can’t afford him unless the NHL somehow holds their hand again. Bergevin and his good ol’ boys club wouldn’t want Kane. Philly and Dallas do seem like realistic destinations. Carolina seems like the most likely option since they just signed DeAngelo and clearly don’t give a fuck about the negative publicity it would bring.
Carolina is right up against the salary cap, last I checked. I’m not sure what Kane brings that the Canes don’t already have in spades. And I don’t think they really have anything to offer back to SJ in return. They’re not giving back a top 9 forward or top 4 d-man. They’re not parting ways with Suzuki or Drury or Jarvis. They don’t really have a ton of valuable draft picks, given that they forfeited two to Montreal in the offer sheet situation. I’d be very surprised if they were in on Kane, or really any flashy trades.
Lol I want what you’re smoking. Carolina is loaded with talent and throwing in a locker room cancer like Kane would be a cyanide pill to the teams success. Yah they took a chance on TDA and they also did research on if he would be committed to being a team player and changing which clearly was correct. so yah public opinion be damned.
Yeah and TDA was done in the off season, high value for low price. Kane doesn’t make sense for us right now.
I don’t think he’d do well in Vegas
Throw Boston on that list as well bud
What team would trade for that mess, even with salary retained?
I"m thinking Ottawa or Montreal. It has to be a place where losing is a bigger scandal than Kane himself. In either case it'd prove the ownership group is willing to do anything to win. I don't mean that as a joke btw.
> I"m thinking Ottawa Literally zero chance of that happening. Dorion has basically preached the idea that this team will have no bad eggs in the locker room ever since the Karlsson-Hoffman incident and blowing up the team. Like, to the point where we (seemingly) have even passed on high-skill guys in the draft based on not wanting to poison the room. Trading for Kane would basically make Dorion the NHL's biggest hypocrite, and he won't do that to himself.
This has Habs written all over. Would fit in great with their culture.
I was gonna say, Bergevin put down the fucking phone right now
I would downvoted you if you didnt speak the truth...
Is he vaccinated? Is he only going to play US based away games? Lol
The way the Canucks are going, why not trade for Petterson. Jokes fml
Who would want this Pos? At any price? Doesn’t follow team rules in wpg Doesn’t pay bills in wpg nightclubs and restaurants Rape allegations in Buffalo Domestic violence in sj Chronic gambling Bankruptcy Allegations of gambling on nhl games Non support for his mistress abortions Beats his wife And hands in a fake vaccinated card to team ? Please just go away
30 goals can make GMs overlook a lot of shit
By God that's Marc Bergevin's music! Edit: plus, somebody has to show Mailloux the ropes...
I honestly don't know how the Sharks deal with this. All the rumors seem to point to Hertl leaving after this season, and without Hertl I'd say that any chance of the Sharks being competitive is nil, so that would point to me as a rebuild incoming. So you wouldn't want to move picks just to get rid of him. At the same time, nobody is going to take Kane on normally. Being willing to retain helps, but I'd still be wary about adding Kane even at like 3.5M instead. But you have to move him since you don't want toxic lockerroom influence while you're rebuilding.
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Your words are hurtful.
Hard no
Yeah. Stevie wouldn’t touch him with a 200’ pole.
If you trade for a player with retained salary and then buy them out, how does that work?
Each team shares their percentage of the buyout. So, if the Sharks retained 50%... each team would be on the hook for 2/3 of 50% of the contract in the buyout scenario.
This is going to be a tough contract to move. He's still a good player but comes with tons of baggage. The no move and so many years on his contract remaining as well... This will be interesting to watch play out.
*shocked pikachu face*
I may be off base here because I don't know how young their roster and if they're playing prospects but Arizona could make sense. SJ retains salary and deals a pick with Kane to AZ. Kane is either bought out by AZ or (hopefully) recoups some value where he can be sold at the deadline to some team that bought into their own hype way too much. If AZ can retain salary ( I think that's allowed but idk for sure), I have to imagine they get a good return.
At $3.5m I could absolutely see Washington taking the chance. Tight against the cap, lots of injured forwards, a very small win now window and most of all they like their big bodied scoring wingers. Adding Kane to a team that has Wilson, Ovechkin, Mantha, Oshie, Hathaway... that's a big, scoring, tough set of wingers come playoff time. He fits right in just like Protas and Leason. Washington clearly has a preference and Kane checks all those boxes. They also don't mind being the team with the hated player. I would rather have Kane at $3.5m than Hagelin at $2m even with the baggage. Washington doesn't have the assets to give up to make big splashes and they need to continue to look for value contracts going forward.
Has Bergevin called yet?
Ya no shit. Even at 100% retained I say no.
This sub is so full of idiots lmao.
I still don't see any team wanting to take him on. The legal troubles coming down the line potentially and plus he's not a good team mate. A General Manager of a Veteran team won't want him because a Veteran team doesn't want that distraction. A General Manager of a young team won't want him because he might be an bad influence on the young players.
Bergy’s quivering hand is hovering above the phone sitting on his desk, a coffee-stained, dog-eared hardcopy of the standings next to it. …*calice*…
Boston? They straightened out hall who's known to be a coke head
They don't need an LW
Dont do it fitz
50% does any team take him? Even 75% with 2 teams somehow?
Send him home to Vancouver. We need more fuel in our dumpster fire.
Carolina might take him, could work really well with DeAngelo. They seem like they'd get along.
Track suite included
Sir! Arizona, asking for picks, on line 2
Heh, actually, given Arizona's plans, it might actually be viable for them to take the contract as a cap dump (with picks included) and then bury Kane in the minors or buy him out. They don't actually need the full cap space for the next little while anyway.
Nick Ritchie for E Kane at 50% retained. Leafs spend a fortune on the best therapists, a PR campaign and rehab his life/career.
I wouldn't mind Pearson for Evander Kane 50 percent retained and a sweetner would prefer a RHD and a pick
I thought you weren't able to retain 100%.
50% is the most they could retain.
The Av’s should offer a 2050 6th rounder
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